Anyone using a non-AT&T 8X on AT&T? - Windows Phone 8x by HTC

Is anyone here using a non-AT&T branded HTC 8X on AT&T with everything working on 2G and 3G? I don't care about 4G for this particular case.
Does Voice, SMS, MMS in both directions, and data work?
Does AT&T detect it as a smartphone and require the right data plan?
Thanks.
Edit: I decided to buy both a Verizon 8X and a T-Mobile 8X to test.
After 4 days the Verizon was detected
T-Mobile one has still not been detected. Will update if it does.

petard said:
Is anyone here using a non-AT&T branded HTC 8X on AT&T with everything working on 2G and 3G? I don't care about 4G for this particular case.
Does Voice, SMS, MMS in both directions, and data work?
Does AT&T detect it as a smartphone and require the right data plan?
Thanks.
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I'm pretty sure you would be able to get 3G with any unlocked 8X but only certain models have LTE radios. You will probably need to add an APN to get you're Data/MMS working 100% and I at least had an issue with tethering (not sure if it is hardware or software related) but other than that you should be golden.
Although obvious, I may as well say it. It should be an unlocked phone.

I'm asking for people with personal experience because Windows Phone is such a pain with APN configuration. I have tried a couple unlocked Verizon phones but they won't work with MMS no matter what I do. There is the generic unbranded GSM version, but that one is expensive compared to the branded ones. Also people are complaining that that HTC connection setup utility is broken on the 8X so I would just really like to know if anyone has actually tested it. I don't want to get the AT&T version because they recognize that one and require a data plan and I don't want one on this line.

petard said:
I'm asking for people with personal experience because Windows Phone is such a pain with APN configuration. I have tried a couple unlocked Verizon phones but they won't work with MMS no matter what I do. There is the generic unbranded GSM version, but that one is expensive compared to the branded ones. Also people are complaining that that HTC connection setup utility is broken on the 8X so I would just really like to know if anyone has actually tested it. I don't want to get the AT&T version because they recognize that one and require a data plan and I don't want one on this line.
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Well, ummm, I am talking about personal experience and those are my experiences. What more specifically would you like to know?
BTW, adding the APN is extremely easy if you know how...

mobi said:
Well, ummm, I am talking about personal experience and those are my experiences. What more specifically would you like to know?
BTW, adding the APN is extremely easy if you know how...
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Does Voice, SMS, MMS in both directions, and data work?
Does AT&T detect it as a smartphone and require the right data plan?
Which version of the phone are you using? International unbranded?

petard said:
Does Voice, SMS, MMS in both directions, and data work?
Does AT&T detect it as a smartphone and require the right data plan?
Which version of the phone are you using? International unbranded?
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Yes. Voice, SMS, MMS and data worked fine. AT&T see it just fine and actually, you will probably see it listed in MyATT after you put the SIM in.
My phone is a C625a which has LTE however, an international unlocked version or a Verizon version will work but only certain models will get LTE because of the radios as mentioned above.

mobi said:
Yes. Voice, SMS, MMS and data worked fine. AT&T see it just fine and actually, you will probably see it listed in MyATT after you put the SIM in.
My phone is a C625a which has LTE however, an international unlocked version or a Verizon version will work but only certain models will get LTE because of the radios as mentioned above.
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Is your phone a non-AT&T 8X? Or is it the AT&T branded one?
They are detecting it as an 8X?
Like my thread title says, I want to know if anyone is using a non-AT&T branded 8X. I DO NOT want them to know what phone it is because if they recognize it then they will require a "correct" smartphone data plan which I do not want.
I tried a Verizon Lumia 822 but I could not get MMS to work at all. They even removed the internet and MMS apn configuration pages built into WP8. I could use the Nokia app for setting the APN, but even with the correct MMS settings incoming MMS would not work. Outgoing would work just fine and everything else worked.
I just want to know if anyone has a non-AT&T 8X where everything on 3G works and that AT&T doesn't detect it.

petard said:
Is your phone a non-AT&T 8X? Or is it the AT&T branded one?
They are detecting it as an 8X?
Like my thread title says, I want to know if anyone is using a non-AT&T branded 8X. I DO NOT want them to know what phone it is because if they recognize it then they will require a "correct" smartphone data plan which I do not want.
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YES, non ATT

mobi said:
YES, non ATT
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I'm sorry but you are very unclear. So your phone is NOT an AT&T branded 8X and they DO detect it as an 8X and require the smartphone data plan?

petard said:
I'm sorry but you are very unclear. So your phone is NOT an AT&T branded 8X and they DO detect it as an 8X and require the smartphone data plan?
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You asked
petard said:
I want to know if anyone is using a non-AT&T branded 8X.
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and I said yes, non ATT which means that it is a non AT&T phone. How else can I say it? It is a non ATT unlocked phone.

mobi said:
You asked and I said yes, non ATT which means that it is a non AT&T phone. How else can I say it? It is a non ATT unlocked phone.
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In my original post I asked
Does AT&T detect it as a smartphone and require the right data plan?
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You haven't clearly answered this. All of your answers were ambiguous whether you were answering "YES" to "is it non-AT&T branded" or if it was a response to "Does AT&T detect it as a smartphone and require the right data plan?"

petard said:
In my original post I asked
You haven't clearly answered this. All of your answers were ambiguous whether you were answering "YES" to "is it non-AT&T branded" or if it was a response to "Does AT&T detect it as a smartphone and require the right data plan?"
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I give up... Maybe someone else can help you.

mobi said:
I give up... Maybe someone else can help you.
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I'm sorry that my questions were too confusing for you.
Maybe having it in a list will make it easier for people to respond
Questions:
1. Do you have a non-AT&T branded HTC 8X
2. Does this HTC 8X work 100% with calls, SMS, MMS in both directions, and data connectivity on 3G
3. Does AT&T detect this as a smartphone (Which will force you to have a smartphone dataplan)?

petard said:
I'm sorry that my questions were too confusing for you.
Maybe having it in a list will make it easier for people to respond
Questions:
1. Do you have a non-AT&T branded HTC 8X
2. Does this HTC 8X work 100% with calls, SMS, MMS in both directions, and data connectivity on 3G
3. Does AT&T detect this as a smartphone (Which will force you to have a smartphone dataplan)?
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3. Yes, as you're using a SIM card.

jValdron said:
3. Yes, as you're using a SIM card.
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Simply using a SIM card does not mean AT&T knows what kind of phone it is. AT&T does not detect all smartphones as smartphones. They can detect all AT&T smartphones correctly and they have the ability to detect some non-AT&T smartphones, but not all. It's mostly the very popular unlocked models such as the Nexus models. Most other phones aren't in there database and just appear as unknown.
For instance they do not have the ability of detecting the ATIV S. I have one of those running on one of my lines with a $10 unlimited data plan. It doesn't support AT&T LTE, though, but that isn't an issue for the line it is on.
I would buy another ATIV S for this line, but it's too expensive at around $500. There are many 8Xs available for around $250 and I want to see if anyone is using any of those models without a correct data plan on AT&T.

mobi said:
I give up... Maybe someone else can help you.
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Don't give up. Since you are the only one here did this. Go to your Myatt account page and see which phone is listed there for your line. If it listed as unknown or generic phone, it does not know you are using a Smartphone. If it listed as you are using a 8x, it means AT&T knows your phone is a smartphone. That's what OP wants.
As for OP, unlike WP7, WP8 lets you add data and MMS APNs easily.
jValdron said:
3. Yes, as you're using a SIM card.
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That's non-sense.

foxbat121 said:
Don't give up. Since you are the only one here did this. Go to your Myatt account page and see which phone is listed there for your line. If it listed as unknown or generic phone, it does not know you are using a Smartphone. If it listed as you are using a 8x, it means AT&T knows your phone is a smartphone. That's what OP wants.
As for OP, unlike WP7, WP8 lets you add data and MMS APNs easily.
That's non-sense.
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I ended up buying both a Tmobile 8X and a Verizon 8X. AT&T hasn't detected either and it's been 3 days. The Tmobile one fully works and the Verizon one can't send MMS.
Verizon removed the ability to set a MMS APN manually and the HTC Connection Setup app doesn't work on the Verizon one. It works on the Tmobile one but I believe it configures the phones using the Phone APN for both Internet and MMS. You don't have access to the Phone APN unless you have a smartphone data plan, but thankfully Tmobile didn't screw around too much with the firmware and I was able to manually enter the connection information for both Internet and MMS.

That was interesting. On AT&T 8x, you have two buttons, one to add data APN and one to add MMC APN.

foxbat121 said:
That was interesting. On AT&T 8x, you have two buttons, one to add data APN and one to add MMC APN.
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Yeah the T-Mobile has both Internet and MMS APN options, but on Verizon the MMS APN option was removed with the Portico update and was present but didn't work (didn't save anything) before Portico.
The Verizon Lumia 822 had both internet and MMS options pre-portico and they both saved what was entered but post-portico they were both gone. Nokia has an APN configuration app though that works post-Portico. Unfortunately even with MMS configured the 822 just won't receive MMS. When an MMS comes in it says "Message not found". Sending MMS from the 822 works fine on AT&T though.
Basically Verizon ****s up MMS so you can't fully utilize a Verizon phone on a GSM carrier.
My T-Mobile 8X mic doesn't work when set to speakerphone though so I will need to get it replaced. I found a few people online with the same issue but they found no solution other than replacement.
The 8X is such a mess.

I guess Verizon will use its CDMA network to deliver MMS. So, it is a problem for them to expose the MMS settings for GSM which may hinder the MMS on CDMA network.

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Sprint Touch Pro2 on PagePlus?

Can you activate a Sprint Touch Pro2 on PagePlus?
Mine is Security & SIM unlocked, currently using an AT&T SIM card. Wonder about combining it with PagePlus on the CDMA network. That doesn't use a SIM card does it? I switched my network setting to CDMA only, and activated my phone on PagePlus and was told to dial *22890 or *228, but it didn't do anything.
pageplus
Anyone know exactly what you have to do to get a Sprint Touch Pro2 phone to work on PagePlus?
they would have to add the esn or meid to their database and "accept" the phone. good luck soldier.
SouthernAtHeart said:
Can you activate a Sprint Touch Pro2 on PagePlus?
Mine is Security & SIM unlocked, currently using an AT&T SIM card. Wonder about combining it with PagePlus on the CDMA network. That doesn't use a SIM card does it? I switched my network setting to CDMA only, and activated my phone on PagePlus and was told to dial *22890 or *228, but it didn't do anything.
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You just said its SIM unlocked....Pageplus is CDMA only, cannot use a SIM card phone. Mainly verizon and sprint phones on pageplus
Don't waste your time. Ive been trying since the 13th to get VZW to add my ESN to their DB. your best bet is to do an ESN modification.
Page Plus will activate any unlocked CDMA phone. It can't be that difficult. Email their customer service and see what they say.
ACtivated but no data
Sprint Touch Pro2 now activated on PagePlus, but only text and voice. I've used EPST & QPST to alter settings, but can't get data.
Anyone successful at this?
SouthernAtHeart said:
Sprint Touch Pro2 now activated on PagePlus, but only text and voice. I've used EPST & QPST to alter settings, but can't get data.
Anyone successful at this?
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Maybe you should flash a cooked ROM on it and do the Verizon provisioning. That might get your data going...
SaltyDawg said:
Maybe you should flash a cooked ROM on it and do the Verizon provisioning. That might get your data going...
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I am using a cooked ROM, and have loaded Verizon provisioning, I think. Have you done this on yours and got it working? What ROM? Can you give me a link to the provisioning cab you used? That'd be great!
thanks.
SouthernAtHeart said:
I am using a cooked ROM, and have loaded Verizon provisioning, I think. Have you done this on yours and got it working? What ROM? Can you give me a link to the provisioning cab you used? That'd be great!
thanks.
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No, I haven't done it. I activated a Verizon phone on Page Plus for a friend a while back, but that is the only experience I have with them.
Maybe put one of the cooked ROMs that is made for Verizon on your phone. That would essentially turn it into a Verizon phone, so I don't see what difference there could be.
whoa!!!
SaltyDawg said:
No, I haven't done it. I activated a Verizon phone on Page Plus for a friend a while back, but that is the only experience I have with them.
Maybe put one of the cooked ROMs that is made for Verizon on your phone. That would essentially turn it into a Verizon phone, so I don't see what difference there could be.[/QUO
I guess that is a possibility as both roms are CDMA. I would research it carefully beforehand. If you can get txt and voice there shouldn't be any reason you can't get data. sd
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leslie50 said:
SaltyDawg said:
No, I haven't done it. I activated a Verizon phone on Page Plus for a friend a while back, but that is the only experience I have with them.
Maybe put one of the cooked ROMs that is made for Verizon on your phone. That would essentially turn it into a Verizon phone, so I don't see what difference there could be.[/QUO
I guess that is a possibility as both roms are CDMA. I would research it carefully beforehand. If you can get txt and voice there shouldn't be any reason you can't get data. sd
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here is a thread by the way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609863
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Not sure if this will help but I activated my xv6800 on PagePlus and voice & text worked but not data. Once I changed the Data Connection login to the following, data worked.
username: min
p/w: vzw
Let me know if it works as I just got a Sprint Touch Pro I plan to activate on PagePlus
b.mann said:
You just said its SIM unlocked....Pageplus is CDMA only, cannot use a SIM card phone. Mainly verizon and sprint phones on pageplus
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The Sprint TP2 (which the OP said he was using) is a CDMA/GSM world phone.
Which means it has a SIM card for the GSM radio in addition to an ESN for the CDMA radio.
Just because the phone takes a SIM card doesn't mean it is GSM only.
Sprint HTC Phones to PagePlus
gamescan said:
The Sprint TP2 (which the OP said he was using) is a CDMA/GSM world phone.
Which means it has a SIM card for the GSM radio in addition to an ESN for the CDMA radio.
Just because the phone takes a SIM card doesn't mean it is GSM only.
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Hi Guys, Im an old newb but got some info for ya....
First, pageplus info is best found over at HowardForums.com, in the pageplus forums, please go there, and research, tons of info, but off the back, If anyone needs to get a line activated on Pageplus PM me, I can assist with that.
Use these detail, which I obtained from the Sprint HTC Phone to Pageplus Wiki pages over at HoFo: wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/Most_HTC_Devices, mods please let me know if this kind o post is prohibited
PS: the info on XDA is usually so good that I hardly ever need to post... But I would like to be more help to soemone, since so many otherz do the same...
Still yet to find even one person who personally has had success getting data on a SPRINT Touch Pro2 with PagePlus...
No one??
I've gotten dozens of folks who tell me how to do it, but I have yet to see anyone personally accomplish it.
SouthernAtHeart said:
Still yet to find even one person who personally has had success getting data on a SPRINT Touch Pro2 with PagePlus...
No one??
I've gotten dozens of folks who tell me how to do it, but I have yet to see anyone personally accomplish it.
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Please access the link in the above post...attempt to do it yourself, then you report back...
bull crap
theres no way this can be right. I have tried
Username: min
Password: vzw
Dialup number: #777
The user must set the proxy server to - ppcgw1.vzwreseller.com
Ports must be set to - 8080
i have also tried
Username: qnc
Password: qnc
Dialup number: #777
and i mixed them both! Im pulling my hair out man! there has got to be somebody that knows something.
there is no way we cant find away around this like for metro or cricket. i had a diamond and touch pro with data and mms on metro and pageplus is a very cheap company that doesnt even have a server to begin with. when they activated my phone they got me on file for a samsung flip phone!
I have a sprint touch pro2 what is the deal!
SouthernAtHeart said:
Still yet to find even one person who personally has had success getting data on a SPRINT Touch Pro2 with PagePlus...
No one??
I've gotten dozens of folks who tell me how to do it, but I have yet to see anyone personally accomplish it.
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I've tried every suggestion I've read here, h.f., ppcgeeks, ...
We need help out there, someone... please.
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I've tried every suggestion I've read here, h.f., ppcgeeks, ...
We need help out there, someone... please.
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I've seen a couple posts on PPC Geeks where people have got Sprint Touch Pro 2's working on Verizon. I would imagine it's probably the exact same process to get it working on Page Plus.
Maybe you should search for people that got it working on Verizon. I would imagine you'll have better luck that way.

[Q] Verizon GS3 on NET10?

OK, so I am not an expert here but I know enough to give information that should help answer my question.
I have a Verizon (CDMA) Samsung Galaxy S3 (SCH-I535). I'd like to use this phone with a NET10 BYOD SIM card, but I'm not sure it will work. By all indications, my phone is a world phone that includes a GSM band. I say that because I can scan and attempt to connect to both AT&T and a local cell company that are both GSM services. In other words, I can select GSM/UMTS as a network option and it appears to work.
Trouble is, I don't have access to a GSM SIM, so there isn't any way for me to test this without spending money on the SIM card. SO in a round about way, I want to know if this will work. Can I buy a NET10 BYOD SIM, select GSM/UMTS under "Mobile Networks" in teh settings, and expect phone, text, and data to work?
I'm especially hoping to hear from people with the SCH-I535 Verizon GS3 if you've ever done this.
If this is not possible, is there any other BYOD SIM program that will allow for phone, text, and data in a CDMA Verizon phone? If so, what is it?
Thanks everyone.
If Verizon has not unlocked the phone off their carrier, then it will not work. (If you have the Jelly Bean Update, then its unlocked) If it is unlocked, then your in luck.
Mind you that I dont have this phone. But your phone is capable of ATT networks. Just avoid T-Mobile networks unless you want to be on EDGE.
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StatusQuo209 said:
If Verizon has not unlocked the phone off their carrier, then it will not work. (If you have the Jelly Bean Update, then its unlocked) If it is unlocked, then your in luck.
Mind you that I dont have this phone. But your phone is capable of ATT networks. Just avoid T-Mobile networks unless you want to be on EDGE.
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Just to make sure I understand, if my phone is Android 4.1.2, then my phone is automatically unlocked and capable of use with an AT&T compatible SIM? And I suppose that includes the NET10 BYOD SIM, or the Straight Talk BYOD SIM for that matter?
How i Just do it con net 10 And is working but just edge .any suggestions settings to enable 4g ???
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Hi - I am trying to do the same thing, did you have any success? If so, can I get the details of how you did it?
Thanks!!
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Just to make sure I understand, if my phone is Android 4.1.2, then my phone is automatically unlocked and capable of use with an AT&T compatible SIM? And I suppose that includes the NET10 BYOD SIM, or the Straight Talk BYOD SIM for that matter?
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Trying to do the same can anyone help me out?
Datdurtyboi said:
Trying to do the same can anyone help me out?
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Did you check your song settings? Make sure you have your phone on global mode as well.

Is There a CDMA On/Off Setting?

With GSM it's easy - you take out your SIM card, and you are off that SIM's network.
Presumably the Nexus 5 will work for voice and 3G without the SIM card. Is there some way to turn off CDMA (yes, I know that if there is no SIM I can just turn off all cellular data. But that's not my question.)
If you mean temporarily, you can always do the old standby of airplane mode. Enable airplane mode, then enable whatever wireless services you want (Wifi, Bluetooth). The airplane mode will keep the cellular modem completely off.
ronwi2 said:
With GSM it's easy - you take out your SIM card, and you are off that SIM's network.
Presumably the Nexus 5 will work for voice and 3G without the SIM card. Is there some way to turn off CDMA (yes, I know that if there is no SIM I can just turn off all cellular data. But that's not my question.)
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There should be options under networks to select cdma or gsm. Will find out tomorrow
lafester said:
There should be options under networks to select cdma or gsm. Will find out tomorrow
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Now that the phone has been out in the wild for a while does anyone know the answer to this question?
The N5 does not allow voice or 3g without a sim for some reason. Perhaps someone will figure out a way to bypass this check at some point.
You can also pick and choose between gsm only, cdma only, lte only etc no problem.
lafester said:
The N5 does not allow voice or 3g without a sim for some reason. Perhaps someone will figure out a way to bypass this check at some point.
You can also pick and choose between gsm only, cdma only, lte only etc no problem.
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So if you take out the SIM, and you are on Sprint, you can't make phone calls or use 3G data?
I know the Sprint LTE Iphones will work if the SIM is removed, just without LTE.
Maybe that's just a way of keeping things clear to the user - your phone has the identity of whatever SIM you have in at any given time.
lafester said:
The N5 does not allow voice or 3g without a sim for some reason. Perhaps someone will figure out a way to bypass this check at some point.
You can also pick and choose between gsm only, cdma only, lte only etc no problem.
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That's kinda crappy. What if you want to use another CDMA only provider?
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That's kinda crappy. What if you want to use another CDMA only provider?
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I don't think it is compatible with any other CDMA only provider - certainly not with Verizon. Who else is there? Metro is going GSM/LTE.
Or perhaps the SIM is necessary to pick the CDMA provider - most CDMA phones are carreir specific, and they just default to the carrier associated with the phone. In other words, if you turn on an unactivated Sprint or Verizon phone, it automatically goes to the correct carrier. If the Nexus 5 has access to more than one CDMA carrier, perhaps the SIM is the method of selecting the carrier.
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ronwi2 said:
I don't think it is compatible with any other CDMA only provider - certainly not with Verizon. Who else is there? Metro is going GSM/LTE.
Or perhaps the SIM is necessary to pick the CDMA provider - most CDMA phones are carreir specific, and they just default to the carrier associated with the phone. In other words, if you turn on an unactivated Sprint or Verizon phone, it automatically goes to the correct carrier. If the Nexus 5 has access to more than one CDMA carrier, perhaps the SIM is the method of selecting the carrier.
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PagePlus is one who runs on Verizon and allows any phone. No LTE tho with them.
Also, The carrier on most CDMA phone is determined by the PRL file. This tells the phone which towers to communicate with and it can be changed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preferred_Roaming_List
pclov3r said:
PagePlus is one who runs on Verizon and allows any phone. No LTE tho with them.
Also, The carrier on most CDMA phone is determined by the PRL file. This tells the phone which towers to communicate with and it can be changed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preferred_Roaming_List
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Presumably then the PRL is preloaded on the Nexus 5 - hence it knows to look for Sprint.
I believe Page Plus as a Verizon MVNO and will only activate Verizon phones, or their own (Page Plus) phones.
ronwi2 said:
I believe Page Plus as a Verizon MVNO and will only activate Verizon phones, or their own (Page Plus) phones.
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They will activate any CDM phone for a except few exceptions such as if the phone is ESN banned on Verizon, PrePaid Verizon phones, Verizon iphones and Verizon blackberry devices. It's a well known unofficial policy.
To add backing of this you can see my signature
Due to hearing that problem I might look at a S4 or something. I generally like the build quality of Samsung much better than LG.
ronwi2 said:
So if you take out the SIM, and you are on Sprint, you can't make phone calls or use 3G data?
I know the Sprint LTE Iphones will work if the SIM is removed, just without LTE.
Maybe that's just a way of keeping things clear to the user - your phone has the identity of whatever SIM you have in at any given time.
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Just checked again... you CAN make calls however data is unavailable.
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Just checked again... you CAN make calls however data is unavailable.
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Interesting, but doesn't really make sense that 3G data is unavailable. If you put a GSM LTE SIM in and select CDMA only, will it make calls on Sprint? (Don't mean to tell you what to do, but I think it would be an interesting thing to find out if you were so inclined.)
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They will activate any CDM phone for a except few exceptions such as if the phone is ESN banned on Verizon, PrePaid Verizon phones, Verizon iphones and Verizon blackberry devices. It's a well known unofficial policy.
To add backing of this you can see my signature
Due to hearing that problem I might look at a S4 or something. I generally like the build quality of Samsung much better than LG.
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Well, that might be an interesting back door into Verizon. I wonder if there is some way that the Nexus 5 can be flashed or otherwise work on Page Plus. I get there would be no LTE, however.
ronwi2 said:
Well, that might be an interesting back door into Verizon. I wonder if there is some way that the Nexus 5 can be flashed or otherwise work on Page Plus. I get there would be no LTE, however.
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I hope so but i'm thinking it's going to require some software modification.
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I hope so but i'm hearing it's going to require some software modification it appears.
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I guess I really don't understand how CDMA works. With GSM, if the phone is unlocked, it works on any network. CDMA always seems to involve flashing. Although I believe there is so me sort of lock on CDMA phones as well (after all, MSL = Master Subsidy Lock.) I wonder if the CDMA side of the phone is locked to Sprint (we know from other posts there is an MSL code for these phones.)
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I guess I really don't understand how CDMA works. With GSM, if the phone is unlocked, it works on any network. CDMA always seems to involve flashing. Although I believe there is so me sort of lock on CDMA phones as well (after all, MSL = Master Subsidy Lock.) I wonder if the CDMA side of the phone is locked to Sprint (we know from other posts there is an MSL code for these phones.)
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Sure, And you can obtain and change that.
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Sure, And you can obtain and change that.
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Is there a way to check the MSL settings without a Sprint SIM?
The #.#.3282#.#. dialer menu doesn't work with a T-Mobile sim...
satadru said:
Is there a way to check the MSL settings without a Sprint SIM?
The #.#.3282#.#. dialer menu doesn't work with a T-Mobile sim...
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In my experience, none of the *#*#xxxxx#*#* codes work without the SIM inserted. You might even need to be activated on Sprint at the time.
Just to clarify, CDMA in this thread includes WCDMA(3g) too?
So the phone will either go GSM or LTE only, which 3g or HSDPA/HSPA are not available by options?

N-920T & AT&T Data Issues

Is anyone using the T-Mobile Note 5 on AT&T? I am having data problems where I do not get data, but can send and receive texts, and also make calls. I switch to the Cingular APN and it works, but then goes out.
I have tried the Nxtgen phone apn and also phone apn, and no luck.
I know im not answering your question, but are you able to use the VOLTE feature on your tmobile phone on the at&t network? or even HD calling?
Actually At&t messed up my provisioning. You asked about those features, I would recommend you download Darthstalkers Rom Version 4, choose n9200A, it will install the at&t carrier files.
Just make sure to add the ATT Phone APN, do not use the nextgen phone apn.
Why do you suggest not using NextGen APN. I use it on all my phones and it's perfect your funny
I have been thinking of paying off my unrooted phone and switching to cricket. When I put my IME number to check compatibility it said it wasn't. So, I'm a bit confused. Is this phone compatible with ATT LTE or not. I thought that ATT and Cricket were the same?
sizz-lorr! said:
I have been thinking of paying off my unrooted phone and switching to cricket. When I put my IME number to check compatibility it said it wasn't. So, I'm a bit confused. Is this phone compatible with ATT LTE or not. I thought that ATT and Cricket were the same?
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is your phone unlocked? if not you need to get your phone sim unlocked to get it to work on AT&T network. Im on AT&T and have no issues with data etc.
treoreloaded said:
is your phone unlocked? if not you need to get your phone sim unlocked to get it to work on AT&T network. Im on AT&T and have no issues with data etc.
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No its not unloocked. But I will unlock it soon. Good to now that I can use it on ATT or cricket if I want. Really tired of Tmo.
Thanks.

Sprint HTC A9 Sim Unlock

Hello I have a Sprint HTC A9 that has been successful unlocked for domestic use, but I have voice with no data. I have S-Off, boot loader unlocked, running stock os. Has anyone else ran into this problem? Can someone please advise?
A friend mentioned that the Sprint variant might not have correct bands installed to be compat with other carriers. I'm wondering if replacing the radio firmware with the developer edition version would work, but I can't get around simlock to test.
HTC A9 Sprint Unlock success!!
Please share? I've been trying for days and made little progress.
There is a guy from Craigslist in my area that did it and he will not tell me, I asked. If there is any kind of way that I can back it up, screen shot it, or whatever. Someone please let me know. I don't have any personal data on it, because it has no data so I'm not using it yet. I don't care about sharing. Let me know and I'm more than happy to.
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There is a guy from Craigslist in my area that did it and he will not tell me, I asked. If there is any kind of way that I can back it up, screen shot it, or whatever. Someone please let me know. I don't have any personal data on it, because it has no data so I'm not using it yet. I don't care about sharing. Let me know and I'm more than happy to.
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If it's an MSL code, he should have supplied that for you. I think MSL is unique to the IMEI/MEID/ESN of your device.
About your successful unlock, congrats! Your success let's me know it's do-able. I'm calling a local computer repair shop that offers unlocking services tomorrow. :fingerscrossed:
I've tried a half dozen ways to get this phone unlocked, but so far I've come up empty except for one scenario:
S-OFF
1. Change CID/MID to unlocked and flash unlocked RUU. Phone works fine, radio not functional.
2. Change CID/MID to sprint and flash sprint RUU. Phone will work with T-mobile SIM for one boot-up. As soon as phone is rebooted the SIM locks.
You can't just reflash the sprint RUU either. If you want to get another successful boot, you have to flash the unlocked RUU, then the sprint RUU and you'll get one boot. My only guess is something in the partitions is zero'd out by the unlocked RUU. I've also tried using the CM13 build immediately after the sprint RUU, and again I get one boot, but as soon as I reboot, CM13 shows sim not inserted.
Perhaps someone can make sense of this.
Attached screenshot proof unlock A9 Sprint, this unlock successfull :laugh:
Lussardi said:
Attached screenshot proof unlock A9 Sprint, this unlock successfull :laugh:
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That not unlocked! I used mine in mexico to! Call sprint, they will unlock it for UMTS and HSP for free! Put a US AT&T sim in it and show me....
Cheers,
disco
disco_y2k said:
That not unlocked! I used mine in mexico to! Call sprint, they will unlock it for UMTS and HSP for free! Put a US AT&T sim in it and show me....
Cheers,
disco
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i live in overseas and its worked for me :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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i live in overseas and its worked for me :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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which method you have used to unlock it?
hmmm.....I am seeing exactly the same thing. put in T-Mobile's sim card. the phone is working fine but no data. anybody got Sprint version of HTC A9 to work on GSM network?
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hmmm.....I am seeing exactly the same thing. put in T-Mobile's sim card. the phone is working fine but no data. anybody got Sprint version of HTC A9 to work on GSM network?
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put the correct APN and DATA works fine
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put the correct APN and DATA works fine
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Wow.... you are a life saver Lussardi! Thank you very much!
My HTC A9 has delivered APN setting, which cannot be modified. However, I was able to create a new APN manually and use that one. After that, data started to work. So far, I see it was able to connect to 4G and also LTE. At one place with strong LTE signal, i tested the download speed, and it was 82mbps. I have never seen that kind of download speed on my iPhone.
Thanks,
Sean
// , Did you unlock an HTC One A9 [Sprint] for complete LTE on T-Mobile or on AT&T?
// , Let me make sure I understand this correctly.
Can I do the following:
1. Unlock a Sprint HTC One A9.
2. Buy a data-enabled T-Mobile SIM card or AT&T SIM card.
3. Enter APN & Data settings.
4. Use that same HTC One A9 with T-Mobile or AT&T, with no loss in performance?
If this is true, that surprises and pleases me.
I assume that one can unlock an AT&T HTC One A9 for use with T-Mobile with no loss in performance, as well?
I found the following for my research about this question:
https://unlocklocks.com/blog/how-to-unlock-htc-one-a9-by-unlock-code/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=htc one a9 unlock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-a9/general/sim-unlock-free-help-to-help-t3307036
Adjutant said:
// , Let me make sure I understand this correctly.
Can I do the following:
1. Unlock a Sprint HTC One A9.
2. Buy a data-enabled T-Mobile SIM card or AT&T SIM card.
3. Enter APN & Data settings.
4. Use that same HTC One A9 with T-Mobile or AT&T, with no loss in performance?
If this is true, that surprises and pleases me.
I assume that one can unlock an AT&T HTC One A9 for use with T-Mobile with no loss in performance, as well?
I found the following for my research about this question:
https://unlocklocks.com/blog/how-to-unlock-htc-one-a9-by-unlock-code/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=htc one a9 unlock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-a9/general/sim-unlock-free-help-to-help-t3307036
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My Sprint version of HTC A9 has been working on T-Mobile's network for almost a week now. I see no issues so far. Data connection is still good with connecting to LTE most of the time.
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My Sprint version of HTC A9 has been working on T-Mobile's network for almost a week now. I see no issues so far. Data connection is still good with connecting to LTE most of the time.
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What process did you go through? Can you provide a little more detail? Thanks...
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What process did you go through? Can you provide a little more detail? Thanks...
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i am not sure if my experience is any different from others here. but, here's the detail of what i went through....
My Sprint variant of HTC A9 was purchased directly off htc.com back in 11/2015. Since the phone was paid in full, I believe the phone was not locked to begin with. I had been using it on Sprint for the past 10 months. Just recently i switched my plan to T-Mobile. With T-Mobile's sim, I see the phone picked up the sim card. Phone started to work (i can make/receive calls) but data would not work. I talked to a couple of HTC rep for support. Both of them told me it should work. From their understanding, A9 and the new HTC 10 should work on all US major carriers...especially mine is a CDMA phone. According to them, CDMA ones can work on GSM....but GSM would not work on CDMA network. Anyways, they were no help for me.
I started doing research on my own and found many people experiencing the same. Phone would work but data would not connect. It was not working until a member on this board, Lussardi, came to rescue. He suggested to manually put in APN. So, I started to check out the APN setting. I see with t-mobile's sim card in, the phone is using a delivered T-Mobile APN setting. I went ahead and created one myself named T-Mobile Manual. I put in APN: fast.t-mobile.com and MMSC: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc and left everything else default. After I selected to use this new APN, the phone started to pick up mobile data. Now, depending on the area that i am in, i can see it's using either 4G or LTE. At one place with strong LTE signal, i did a speed test. It was over 80mbps.
Anyways, that's all. Good luck everyone.
// , Thank you!
// , Thanks for the thorough response, and for not just giving up.
The large corporations generally don't care too much about usability for this sort of outlier customer experience.
Can you give any instructions on how you unlocked the sprint version of the HTC A9?
Thanks.

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