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Battery Drain caused by Push Mail on WM5?

Hi guys and gals,
I ve been using pushmail for a week or so now and have noticed from the first day of using it that my battery drains so much faster when im using pushmail on my HP 6828.
My HP6828 used to last at least two days but now with pushmail enabled it lasts just till the evening of each day...
Is this a known bug? are there any fixes for this issue?
Thanks in advance for any help
NR

This is not a bug, it's a feature!
Yesterday I did some googling to find out how push mail works. I found an article (sorry, couldn't find the link again - not in history for some reason) where they found that push mail sends 400 bytes every 120 seconds to keep the connection alive.
Even if those numbers are inaccurate, the principle is the same: your device keeps an open GPRS connection to the Exchange server, and every once in a while sends data (even if there are no changes or new mails) so the radio is draining the battery.
Your bigger concern should be the phone bill, unless you have unlimited data you might get a large charge at the end of the month. In the article they calculated push mail to use approx 12MB per month.

levenum said:
This is not a bug, it's a feature!
Yesterday I did some googling to find out how push mail works. I found an article (sorry, couldn't find the link again - not in history for some reason) where they found that push mail sends 400 bytes every 120 seconds to keep the connection alive.
Even if those numbers are inaccurate, the principle is the same: your device keeps an open GPRS connection to the Exchange server, and every once in a while sends data (even if there are no changes or new mails) so the radio is draining the battery.
Your bigger concern should be the phone bill, unless you have unlimited data you might get a large charge at the end of the month. In the article they calculated push mail to use approx 12MB per month.
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BUMP!
and yes im using unlimited EDGE access for 15 USD/month.. so the cost is fixed.. but now my battery wont even last a whole day! bloody microsoft.

Hi Nutdhanai!
I've been using push mail on my Jamin for almost two weeks now, and noticed that the battery drain is almost double the usual. It will last about two and a half - three days on standby and of course any use will reduce that time.
Still haven't seen any solution, but fortunately for me push is not a necessity. I can always set up my account as IMAP and set it to check mail once every hour or so which will reduce the load.
Hope you find a better solution for your self.

I think the best solution is to set a schedule in activesync to check on your email every 30 min, or every hour. you'll save a lot of power that way. hope that will help.

lsnizzle said:
I think the best solution is to set a schedule in activesync to check on your email every 30 min, or every hour. you'll save a lot of power that way. hope that will help.
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Yes that way does decrease the amount of battery being drained.. no offense but it really defeats the objective of being pushed mail..if we set it to check every xxx minutes then its really pulling mails not pushed .. argg..
However, what i have noticed is that the battery is draining faster using push mail over GPRS/EDGE because the phone wont go into full power save mode (backlight and screen off) but it only goes to partial power save mode (only backlight is off but screen is still on) when the phone is idle, BUT if you do push mail over WiFi the phone will go to full power save mode when idle. Both tests (GPRS and WiFi) with sync option of 'as items arrive' NOT every xxx minutes.
Maybe there is some bugs on the GPRS/EDGE power saving mode..
(atm, I have set mine to check mail every 15 mins)

The battery drain wouldn't be so bad if the server scheduling worked. But it doesn't; I have tried to configure mails to be obtained 'as they arrive' duing work hours (which means server push) and once every hour outside work hours, but its all or nothing - the push mail doesn't turn off at the end of work hours, so the battery is being drained equally all day.

Changing Time Zones Screws Up My Calander!

I have been on a couple of other forum sites & have not found a solution yet. I am sure that others must have had this happen. I have to travel a lot for work & do travel between time zones often. The clock on my 8525 will automatically update to the new time zone. However, when this happens it also updates all of my calander appointments to that time too. I have almost missed flights because of this.
I think microsoft really dropped the ball on this one. Most business travelers do travel between times zones. Outlook does not have an option that a particular appoint will occur in a different time zone. I would rather the calander not update when the clock updates. Does anyone know of a way to fix this?

I rarely travel between timezones, so I just time shift various appointments. Plus it makes people that I share my google calendar with know what time an appointment is in their timezone properly
edit: Pocket Informant 8 allows you to specify a timezone, I believe.

jadesse said:
I have been on a couple of other forum sites & have not found a solution yet. I am sure that others must have had this happen. I have to travel a lot for work & do travel between time zones often. The clock on my 8525 will automatically update to the new time zone. However, when this happens it also updates all of my calander appointments to that time too. I have almost missed flights because of this.
I think microsoft really dropped the ball on this one. Most business travelers do travel between times zones. Outlook does not have an option that a particular appoint will occur in a different time zone. I would rather the calander not update when the clock updates. Does anyone know of a way to fix this?
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You should always enter your calendar entries using the time in your current timezone. So if, say, you live in New York and leave for Los Angeles at 1:00pm New York Time, you enter it as 1:00pm. While you are still in New York you enter your return flight for 7:00pm Los Angeles time, you would enter it as 10:00pm.
Then when you arrive in Los Angeles and your phone jumps back 3 hours to the Pacific Time Zone, your flight will have changed to 7:00pm, the correct time. This way why you are still in New York and tell your wife you will call her before your flight out of LA at 10:00pm, she will be expecting it at 10:00pm her time. If you enter the entry as 7:00pm while in New York then when you look at the appointment you have to think where you might be at that time, instead of where you are now, to know the correct time. I know a flight time isn't so bad because you know where you should be to catch the flight. But say you want to remember to call your daughter before she goes to bed at 8:00pm NY time. If you enter it as 8:00pm in NY and it stays at 8:00pm while your in LA it will be 11:00pm when you call her, oops.
I know I made this more complicated than I should have, but hopefully you could follow my rant. I think you should want your phone to tell you the appointment time at where you are now, and let you figure what the time will be where you might be then, because you might not end up being there when the time comes.

Upon further examination, PI8 only time shifts your entry. Say if you wanted to create "Appointment" at 10AM EDT, and you are in PDT. It will create "Appointment {US Eastern 10:00AM}" at 7AM PDT. I'm sure there's a different mess of issues when you shift to PST, but we won't have to worry about that until later

Quick GPS data only good for 1 day 21 hours?

Why is it that each time I download data for Quick GPS it shows that the data is only good for 1 day & 21 hours??...Isn't it supposed to be good for about 3 days??
Any thoughts?
Thanks

It should state 6 days and 23 hours after updating. I guess the update isn't going well. You should check your internet connection settings and verify which connection QuickGPS is using (The Internet/My Work Connection etc.).

I can confirm that, I update mine through WiFi and it shows 6 days 23 Hours.
Neville

auto connect/disconnect application?

hi,
I bought this TP a week ago.at the 1st day,the phone's battery drained very quick.the day after I discovered that the phone auto connect to the internet via 3G/GPRS, so I assume that this is the problem of battery drain.
I admit that auto connect is a good thing since I can receive email and message (yahoo messenger) via palringo any time.but,the power drain is still a great issue for me.
so,I want to ask you guys,is there any application which can auto-connect my phone every (lets say) 20 minutes and then disconnect it (lets say)5 minutes later,and auto-connect the fone 20 mins after it being disconnected and so on...(sorry I'm not a native english user,so I'm not so good at describing ^^)
best regard,
Xue

You could try modify the registry key responsible for disconnecting idle connections as described here:
http://www.andrewsayshello.com/windows-mobile/auto-disconnecting-idle-data-connections-in-wm6/

Battery Life Application

I have a Samsung i637 with WM6.1 form Telcel Mexico.
I want to have an application that show the time that I used my phone since last battery charge.
I have found the Beersoft Battery Monitor, but the webpage says "For Smartphone 2003".
Could you please help me to find a similar application for WM6.1?
Thanks!
I have a Samsung i637 with WM6.1 form Telcel Mexico.
I want to have an application that show the time that I used my phone since last battery charge.
I have found the Beersoft Battery Monitor, but the webpage says "For Smartphone 2003".
Could you please help me to find a similar application for WM6.1?
Thanks!
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This is the result of the analysis made to my phone to know the battery life using 3G connection.
The test started yesterday at 1:17pm (Jan.21st)
I adjusted the E-mails (Exchange & Hotmail) in order to receive mails inmediately until 11:00pm. After that hour, the synchronization would be manually, and the 3G was deactivated.
Today on morning, I adjusted the e-mails in order to receive mails inmediately from 7am to 7pm. After that hour the e-mails would be synchronizated every hour.
The results are:
Yesterday January 21, at 1:17 pm, I turned off the phone and the battery was charged to 100%. Then the charger was removed and the phone was turned on.
Today, Jan 22 at 10:50am, the phone showed a Battery Low message.
After uninstall one application I made a reset to my phone, at 11:20am. When the phone turned on, the battery low message disappeared. But it appear at 11:25am.
At 12:20pm, the phone show a Battery very low message and it was turned off at 12:22pm.
In summary, receiving mails, making calls, sending and receiving text messages, listening some of music, connecting to messenger and facebook and taking pictures, the battery life was 23 hours and 39 minutes.
Is a normal battery life for Samsung i637? (WM6.1)
Thanks!
(Sorry for my bad english)