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Hey guys I just recently updated to 6.1 on my tilt with vega's rom and i came across an old thread that said with WM 6.1 that carriers could see if the device was tethering using the internet sharing feature and charge accordingly. I use WMWiFiRouter and i have unlimited medianet on my plan and together to this point I have not incurred any data charges.. Has anyone else used wmwifirouter with 6.1 and been charged??
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about a month back since I was moving apartments I ended up using about a gigs worth of tethering until my internet was setup. I tried to use it pretty sparingly - in the end no fancy charges on the bill!
also I have cingulars PDA personal max with the smallest minute plan (totals about 90 per month)
I must say though this is one example, ive read all kinds of things on this topic and its too confusing to be predictable. Your taking a risk but i think it should be ok for ocasional light use.
Another strategy since it seems you dont want to restrict yourself to light use. Just go nuts really and when the bill hits if it EVEr hits who knows, thats the point where you call up and act humbly confused. The cingular people will remove the 33,000+ dollars worth of charges. This is what happened to me on my first month with the tilt no joke 33,000!!! - thats how I got punched from 20 dollar a month media net access with to 40 pda personal max. they know once cant expect a payment of such bonkers proportions -beware its all part of their plan at all times to make you upgrade so good luck.
Wow thats crazy.. I myself use under a gig a month and i have been doing this for a long time. I was just caught off guard when i read that you can possibly be billed when you use Windows mobile 6.1.. Are you using windows mobile 6 or 6.1??
I would assume they will not be charging. I believe that it is a new feature of windows mobile 6.1 that could be implemented if at&t ever made a windows mobile 6.1 ROM but at&t's official ROM is still windows mobile 6. (Even the updated one that was just released) So how could they charge for a feature that they don't support? But I guess we will find out here in another billing cycle.
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I just upgraded my phone to a AT&T tilt. I already had a Media Max 200 bundle that I have had for almost 2 years. As of last night my account said I had the Media MAx 200 plan. .. I poped the SIM card into the tilt this morning. Now I view my account online and it says that my MediaMax 200 plan expires on 04/08 and the amount next to it says zero. When I look at the data usage it shows I am being billed ber kb... you guys need to watch it. Strange thing is my wife has a HTC phone that we got on ebay it was a eurpoean import and her media max is still there. I think it has somethin to do with them knowing the IMIE number. Something to think about. So Ilm off to find a way to mask the darn imie number or I will just purchase an import.
Any suggestions
alynch75 said:
I just upgraded my phone to a AT&T tilt. I already had a Media Max 200 bundle that I have had for almost 2 years. As of last night my account said I had the Media MAx 200 plan. .. I poped the SIM card into the tilt this morning. Now I view my account online and it says that my MediaMax 200 plan expires on 04/08 and the amount next to it says zero. When I look at the data usage it shows I am being billed ber kb... you guys need to watch it. Strange thing is my wife has a HTC phone that we got on ebay it was a eurpoean import and her media max is still there. I think it has somethin to do with them knowing the IMIE number. Something to think about. So Ilm off to find a way to mask the darn imie number or I will just purchase an import.
Any suggestions
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Swap to a NON-PDA phone, use that for a couple days, call them up and tell 'em the Tilt is an occasional use phone. That was a suggestion that I'd read in another thread dealing with that issue. And to the tethering WM6.1 users (including myself), we'll see in a month or so whether we go HOLY F$%^ING $H^T or if its business as usual.
can you guys point me in the right direction for setting up my teathering. I can't get it to work.
hope this helps..
scwilson8382 said:
can you guys point me in the right direction for setting up my teathering. I can't get it to work.
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As long as you have either XP or Vista, all you have to do is find a utility called "internet sharing" which should be a part of your communication manager, especially if you have the custom ones that allow you to turn on/off bluetooth, wifi, phone, etc. Once you tap on it you will see just two drop down boxes where one of them is for selecting bluetooth or usb.
step 1. Click on the "connect" soft button which will activate your data connection.
step 2. plug in the usb port of your Tilt/Kaiser.
Step 3. plug in a usb port on your pc/notebook. (this will ensure it won't activate your activesync connection)
wait about 5 seconds or so and launch your browser.. have a blast.
Its that simple.
I have Dutty's Touch (Build 18548.dutty's). In the connections sub menu I have the wireless modem option. After I open it, select usb and hit start nothing happens. I'm running VISTA HOME PREMIUM. when you say hit connect do you mean the "Data Connection in the com manager or the "Start" in the wireless modem panel? I have followed the directions in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288753
alynch75 said:
I just upgraded my phone to a AT&T tilt. I already had a Media Max 200 bundle that I have had for almost 2 years. As of last night my account said I had the Media MAx 200 plan. .. I poped the SIM card into the tilt this morning. Now I view my account online and it says that my MediaMax 200 plan expires on 04/08 and the amount next to it says zero. When I look at the data usage it shows I am being billed ber kb... you guys need to watch it. Strange thing is my wife has a HTC phone that we got on ebay it was a eurpoean import and her media max is still there. I think it has somethin to do with them knowing the IMIE number. Something to think about. So Ilm off to find a way to mask the darn imie number or I will just purchase an import.
Any suggestions
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You upgraded to a fresh-out-of-box Tilt or you upgraded your Tilt to windows mobile 6.1? When I bought my Tilt they told me that my media max data plan would not work with it and that they would need to upgrade it to a 3G data plan. Could this be your case?
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I have Dutty's Touch (Build 18548.dutty's). In the connections sub menu I have the wireless modem option. After I open it, select usb and hit start nothing happens. I'm running VISTA HOME PREMIUM. when you say hit connect do you mean the "Data Connection in the com manager or the "Start" in the wireless modem panel? I have followed the directions in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288753
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Checkout this screenshot.. this is the utility that actually comes with even the stock ROM. See if you can find it in some other folder.
So, you're gonna tap the connect soft key and then plug into the usb port of the computer. The other utilities became pretty much obsolete once MS added this utility, I believe in WM5 for the first time.
The others have to be installed on your machine and activesync disabled.. this one doesn't need any of those.
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You upgraded to a fresh-out-of-box Tilt or you upgraded your Tilt to windows mobile 6.1? When I bought my Tilt they told me that my media max data plan would not work with it and that they would need to upgrade it to a 3G data plan. Could this be your case?
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Im on the iphone plan (iphone under repair) and the tilt works fine on the iphone data plan. using another sim that is only mediamax 200 it also works fine. i dont think the plan needs to be 3G specified for it to work with the tilt
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Okay so what do I do? I got the tilt from AT&T via fed express. It had a sim card in it but i didn't use it. I just took the sim card out of my old blackjack and put it in the tilt and now nothing... it worked but online the price and plan changed. anyoine have any ideas
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Okay so what do I do? I got the tilt from AT&T via fed express. It had a sim card in it but i didn't use it. I just took the sim card out of my old blackjack and put it in the tilt and now nothing... it worked but online the price and plan changed. anyoine have any ideas
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The sim for the tilt needs to be a 3g sim. Your blackjack one is probably not unless you upgraded it. You can call at&t over the phone and get them to switch the sims to the new one that came with your tilt.
I think this is what you are asking but I'm not really sure.
Data Plans
I had similar experience where I called ATT and asked for to have my Tilt switched to Unlimited media net for $19.95 +200 SMS instead of $35 PDA data plan with 1500 SMS included... and lady on the other side told me that MediaNet is - and I quote "DIFFERENT TYPE OF INTERNET"
Well, I tried to pursuade her that it is same data plan my wife has on her Iphone but she was determined not to give up telling me fairytales about "Specialized DATA PLAN for iPhone...." and that Windows device uses more data than Iphone
Eventhough I told her that use about 60Mb/per month, mostly for emails (and comparing to my wife whose data usage is more on the level of Apache server than iPhone - up to 10-12Gb/month) still did not help to make ATT agent diviate from reading the predifined customer service script in front of her, and lower my Data plan rate.
The following evening I went to local ATT store and very cool sales rep(store was empty so I was obviously breaking monothony of his shift) Changed the plan without single questions. - Everything works same way as with PDA data plan - no issues whatsoever.
I was having an intermittent data connection issue on my phone (it usually worked in 3G, but not on EDGE, very weird) I have the MediaMax 19.99
Anyway, I called in and actually got a decent rep. I told him that I switched sims between a Tilt and a Razor (work vs night/weekend) and he was very cool.
Basically he saw that my data wasn't crazy, said that he totally got what was going on, and was not going to raise any flags or anything, but that he "could not provide support" for data connection issues while the SIM was in a Tilt with that plan. He then said he would check everything on the back end and to restart my phone in 4 minutes.
Presto chango and it has worked almost perfectly since (about the last 3 weeks) I personally agree with his stance. I mean, I think AT&T is still getting a good bit of cash from me, but obviously I am gaming the system a little bit, so just not supporting it, but not coming down on it seems fair to me.
THe guy I got owns a Tilt (and probably has the freakin MEdia Max plan!) but I am sure if you get some yaboo who doesn't know a slider phone from a slider burger then all you will get is the rote script. In that case, be polite, hand up, and call back until you get someone that knows what to do. Or as another poster said, try going to the store although there is no guarantee there that they will be less idiotic.
When I hang up, they call me back
Any update on the original poster's question on this? Does WM6.1 include some new way of letting carriers know if the data is being used "from the phone directly" or "from a PC via tethering"?
It looks like the Internet Sharing in 6.1 gives the carriers the ability to track usage, but this doesn't necessarily mean that they will be tracking usage. If anyone is worried about this just find or cook a WM6.1 rom without internet sharing and install the one from a 6.0 rom like the one I have attached (made by Chainfire).
I think _Alex_ has a really clean 6.1 and mine (check sig) has nearly everything removed.
Personally I don't think they will be checking, at least yet... They haven't released a WM 6.1 Tilt, so they are probably working under the assumption that none of the Tilts are 6.1.
-Jay
I got my Fuze last night and the problem persists. AT&T is looking into it but seems to have no clue.
I can use the 3g data network for the weather app, Tomtom but when I attempt to load anything via Opera or IE it fails.
BUT if I load Wifi, then navigate to google.com for example, then turn off the wifi, the 3g data network starts to work. If I close opera and reload it the 3g data network stops working again.
Any ideas?
Jeff
Which data plan did you have before you got the FUZE. I got my FUZE and the sales rep. who sold it to me took off all data since I opted not to go with the PDA package.
I called in and complained and the customer service rep. re-added MediaNet for me. Now I'm having the same issues you mentioned again. WTF is going on.
Just my two Cents
I would take it back and try another phone in the store. Mine works fabulous out of the box.
I had the iphone data plan. AT&T has a support ticket submitted but they seem to be clueless as to what is going on. I am signed up for the correct 30.00 dollar media net plan.
Who knows. They said they would call me back later today. I will let you know if they fix the problem. I have already done a hard reset and it made no difference.
jeffla said:
I had the iphone data plan. AT&T has a support ticket submitted but they seem to be clueless as to what is going on. I am signed up for the correct 30.00 dollar media net plan.
Who knows. They said they would call me back later today. I will let you know if they fix the problem. I have already done a hard reset and it made no difference.
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For what it's worth, I had all kinds of strange data problems when I switched from my iPhone to my Tilt. Had to call AT&T several times before I got a tech who figured out that they had changed my data plan in one place but not another place so it was still picking up the iPhone data plan.
try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444360
i had problems trying to connect to websites via 3g...but able to under wifi.
followed the thread and it now works. :0)
Maskeo13 said:
try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444360
i had problems trying to connect to websites via 3g...but able to under wifi.
followed the thread and it now works. :0)
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I unfortunately tried that already with no success. I probably have incorrect settings on AT&T's end in my account.
jeffla said:
Thanks for the suggestion, but I unfortunately tried that already with no success. I probably have incorrect settings on AT&T's end in my account.
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This is most likely the case. I am sitting in an area with full 3G signal and getting speeds of 20k/second. This is all after I switched to the FUZE from the Tilt which had a MediaNet Plan and now am on a PDA Personal plan.
This is Total BS.
Yes i have the SAME PROBLEM,
i used to have th $20 iPhone plan, because i had the original iPhone.
i went into the store and they upgraded my plan to the $30 Fuze plan.
But now i have the same problem, everything works fine on wifi, but when i go into Opera using 3G, it says
"ERROR!: The remote server refuses to perform the request"
and i tried using the Instant messaging application and i get "Request could not be complete (code: 403)
This is awesome. Back 2 years ago when they first rolled out 3G I would reliably get 900 Kbps on my TyTn. Now, here we are 2 years later and I can semi-reliably get 25 Kbps on my FUZE (when it decides that it wants to connect).
What area is everyone in btw?
In my area (Tyson's Corner, VA), AT&T's explanation is that there is "degradation on a few of the towers in that area". Take that for it's worth.
im in Miami Florida,
i have yet to call at&t, but i will in a few minutes
im having the same problem i got mines on nov 10 and i cant connect to opera or AIM over 3g
jeffla said:
I got my Fuze last night and the problem persists. AT&T is looking into it but seems to have no clue.
I can use the 3g data network for the weather app, Tomtom but when I attempt to load anything via Opera or IE it fails.
BUT if I load Wifi, then navigate to google.com for example, then turn off the wifi, the 3g data network starts to work. If I close opera and reload it the 3g data network stops working again.
Any ideas?
Jeff
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ok i just called at&t support.
and i told them my problem, and they noticed that i had the iPhone before i got the Fuze.
They transfered me to Technical support and they guy tried and fixed the network on the spot, but he said, that wat they needed to do is get the "iPhone" out of their network. Because the network still thinks im using the iPhone, so it uses a different type of data transfer.
He said this usually happens to ppl that have an iPhone and then switch to a "normal" phone.
He submitted a paper, that will get the iPhone information out of the network, and my Fuze should be working just fine in 24-48 hours, they said they will call me.
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ok i just called at&t support.
and i told them my problem, and they noticed that i had the iPhone before i got the Fuze.
They transfered me to Technical support and they guy tried and fixed the network on the spot, but he said, that wat they needed to do is get the "iPhone" out of their network. Because the network still thinks im using the iPhone, so it uses a different type of data transfer.
He said this usually happens to ppl that have an iPhone and then switch to a "normal" phone.
He submitted a paper, that will get the iPhone information out of the network, and my Fuze should be working just fine in 24-48 hours, they said they will call me.
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They just called me back and said the iphone was still listed in one of their systems on my account. So the iphone even in death haunts me. (ok it didn't die but I want to smash it)
She also said that my inconsistent data speeds are a result of an outage in my area that has been going on since the 6th of Nov involving 3 towers. They comped my data charge for the month so I guess I can't complain too much.
She said that she will call me at the end of the week to make sure everything is working. Keep your fingers crossed for me.
Jeff
I'm having the same problem in Opera. Opera works fine on phone reset. Howvere, at some point, it just starts returngin the error message "The remote server refuses to perform the request..." The strange thing is that Push email, and my data connection in Garmin Mobile XT continue to work.
Between this issue and the GPS not working (without GPS Test), the Fuze is starting to be a pain in the butt.
Workaround
I have the same problem, where X number of hours after a soft reset, my phone's data connection no longer works. Following some advice I found on another forum, I've gotten a work-around, but it's not great.
The theory was that the phone's data connection is releasing it's IP, and the phone doesn't know it, so it's trying to reuse an expired IP. Pressing and holding the end call (upside down phone) button for a few seconds by default, terminates the data connection (color wheel comes up when this process is started). After that, internet seems to function again.
Anyone have a better resolution to this?
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I have the same problem, where X number of hours after a soft reset, my phone's data connection no longer works. Following some advice I found on another forum, I've gotten a work-around, but it's not great.
The theory was that the phone's data connection is releasing it's IP, and the phone doesn't know it, so it's trying to reuse an expired IP. Pressing and holding the end call (upside down phone) button for a few seconds by default, terminates the data connection (color wheel comes up when this process is started). After that, internet seems to function again.
Anyone have a better resolution to this?
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Sorry, but my resllution was to sell the Fuze and get an iPhone. No more data connection, GPS, battery life, or Bluetooth issues for me.
Hi guys,
first off i know how to disable proxy on treo 750 and mediamax has always been working.
the problem started happening here in edison, NJ area. A couple days ago where i cant connect to internet using media max. Funny thing is that when i went out the area and tried it in my house mediamax works fine and figured that ATT is having network issue.
But today its still not working again in this area and just want to ask your opinion if ATT is finally laying out the law with the new user agreements and they're using this area as a test site.
Or should i wait and see wut happens.
I also tried my sim on treo 750 and blackjack II and none of them works. I then inserted my sim on a Nlkia 6085 handheld and mediamax works. I'm definitely leaning on ATT making changes on their network.
I found out the problem. ATT 3G network was down thats why i cant connect to internet. And the treo 750 stock rom just always default to 3G. So rest assured guys ATT is not blocking anything.
Hi, I've been using the Iphone PAYG unlimited internet SIM in my Polaris for over a month, quite happily.
O2 have just sent a text however saying that they know I'm not using the SIM in an Iphone and will cut off the Internet access within the month.
My question is - without using the WiFi radio part (which I don't BTW) how on earth can the O2 Network know that its not an iphone connecting?
All advice gratefully received.
D
probably since o2 know what imei numbers are iphones therefore yours is not an iphone and so you get the data cut off.
Thats my best but o2 is really hot on that then if they are about to cut you off what a load of bull****?!?!?
yay or nay
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probably since o2 know what imei numbers are iphones therefore yours is not an iphone and so you get the data cut off.
Thats my best but o2 is really hot on that then if they are about to cut you off what a load of bull****?!?!?
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anybody actualy sure how o2 do check what their sim is connected through,do o2 use different system from 3uk,cos the old nokia n95/96 cab works and that does not change imei,just some of the browser type settings in advanced settings.
from what i have picked up on various forums,some folk using hacked mobile broadband dongles have got away with months and months before anyone noticing,but hook a mobile phone up witho2 iphone sim they soon notice!!
anyone got any help
I am not entirely certain but i suspect there are headers for data packets embedded in the phone that let o2 know what phone you use.
I found this out when trying to figure out why o2 would limit mms file sizes, see
this thread but the jist of it from what i can make out is that your browser and mms services have a user agent string that indicates the device you are using. In opera they are under the about:config options, the location for mms is in the thread.
There may be more of these header strings but i suspect what might help is that you get the iphone string and alter your polaris onces to suit.
You are being watched lol.
Don't worry about this. I got that message 3 months ago, still surfing on 3g (but not wifi). As long as you keep your credit over a £1 you'll be alright.
I bought a used AT&T Fuze online, and it came yesterday. I popped my SIM in, and this morning, I received a text message saying a data plan is required for all smartphones. I called up AT&T and got my IMEI changed and cancelled the data plan. Is there a way to prevent AT&T from charging me for the data plan, so that I can just use the phone without internet access (excluding Wi-fi, obviously)?
I have the same question. Back in October I had a Tilt that didn't have the plan - activated it and had been using the plan until mid January - the phone was stolen out of my car. Using a Blackberry now and they automatically stopped the data plan. I have a new Fuze on the way and don't want to pay the 30 per month as I can use WIFI almost anywhere for free.
Read that their policy is that if you have a smartphone they'll will automatically charge the 30 and activate you if you activate a new phone - but it doesn't specify whether the "new" phone is purchased from them or just through a change in recognition via the SIM.
When I looked at my account in January there isn't an option to disable the data plan - used to be there - so I'm thinking you use a Smartphone you have to pay. Seem to me a class action lawsuit should be in the works. Many use the phone as a PDA and don't care if we have access 24/7.
Maybe if they upped their speeds and coverage for 3g while lowering the price say to 10 to 15 it would be worth it.
So I'm guessing it can't be done? darn. Damn AT&T!
Unlock it and use t-mobile; that may be your best bet.
i bought my fuze with no data plan so there shouldnt be a problem. as long as you didnt purchase where u received a discount for signing up for a data plan
I bought it used, and it automatically charged me
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I didnt have that problem with AT$T, actually.. i just recently put my wife's sim into my old fuze. with the exception of getting charged for unwanted data that got downloaded automatically, she has had no problems. she doesn't use the internet so it is fine. I just had AT&T block any data from her line. ( her line is no longer under contract, and i would like to keep it that way...)
I do actually have a question of my own... (didn't want to start a new thread)....
she does want to send and receive picture messages, we have unlimited messaging, but with the fuze you must have data in order to send or receive MMS. AT&T thinks she still has her old razr.
I would like to set her up with unlimited data plan for the razr, which is only like $10 per month, and was wondering if this would work with the fuze and what settings i might need to change to make it work.
thanks
keith
Sorry, but from how it looks now.. No you can't.. if you use Data, they will catch you that you are using a Fuze... the only "work around" I know is this... She can set up a yahoo, gmail, or simmilar account to just use with her phone... Then whenever she is in a WiFi area, she can send and receive picture email.. she can take the picture and compose them anytimes.. just has to wait to send them til she can use the WiFi.... MMS accounts can both send and receive with people who use email.... where they put in the send, instead of a phone number, they just put in an email address (go ahead, try it yourself, I know you want to )
As far as her sending her pictured emails to peoples phones, she just needs to know what carrier they use.. Then enter their #, and the rest of their
"email" address from this site : http://modmyi.com/wiki/index.php/MMS_Email_Addresses
She can avoid having to look up their address if the person who wants to share pictures with simply sends a message first to her phones email account using their phone... Then she just simple has to reply I know this is probally not the answer you were looking for, but it woudl work and save you having to pay the $35 for AT&T PDA Data....
I've never had a problem not having a data plan on my account. I bought it refurbished from AT&T and there was no data plan required for activation. I even temporarily added a data plan, then took it off again the next day just last month. I was never hassled or given the run-around at any point. Maybe you should just try changing the IMEI back to the Fuze and see what happens. It might also be a good idea to install NoData and disable the two data connections first, just so it never tries to connect.
I also dont want a data plan( cant afford it). My question is how can i make it not use wap for internet and only use wifi, when i do need it to receive data for mms. Thats included in my messaging plan but I have par per use internet and media net. I want to make sure that it doesnt connect to the network for internet or media net and I can only do internet through wifi. How do I do this? I tried just turning data off but it automatically turned back on when i hit the browser. How do i make it only use wifi? Thanks
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I also dont want a data plan( cant afford it). My question is how can i make it not use wap for internet and only use wifi, when i do need it to receive data for mms. Thats included in my messaging plan but I have par per use internet and media net. I want to make sure that it doesnt connect to the network for internet or media net and I can only do internet through wifi. How do I do this? I tried just turning data off but it automatically turned back on when i hit the browser. How do i make it only use wifi? Thanks
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You can always get a data block on your plan, so when you accidentally try to use data, it wont connect, thus making ATT not know you have a PDA... therefore wifi is the best and only option!
kmartin888 said:
I didnt have that problem with AT$T, actually.. i just recently put my wife's sim into my old fuze. with the exception of getting charged for unwanted data that got downloaded automatically, she has had no problems. she doesn't use the internet so it is fine. I just had AT&T block any data from her line. ( her line is no longer under contract, and i would like to keep it that way...)
I do actually have a question of my own... (didn't want to start a new thread)....
she does want to send and receive picture messages, we have unlimited messaging, but with the fuze you must have data in order to send or receive MMS. AT&T thinks she still has her old razr.
I would like to set her up with unlimited data plan for the razr, which is only like $10 per month, and was wondering if this would work with the fuze and what settings i might need to change to make it work.
thanks
keith
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I used to have an old Samsung flip that I actually flipped into two pieces. When I replaced it with a used Blackjack I simply went into AT&T and had them add the $30 MEdia Net package (Unlimited Data, Unlimited Msgs) because it showed that I still had the old Samsung flip. I had been using my Blackjack for about 2 months and there was no recognition. Now I'm using the Fuze with no problem. As long as your plan doesn't show that you are using a smartphone (IE you bought one from them) then you should be ok. I've been doing this for over a year with no problems.
In the same boat. Just bought a Rhodium & I'm wondering what I can use my Fuze for. I wanna give it to my dad whose line has no data, or use it as a back-up and cancel my handset insurance. Can I switch between devices on my sim which has a data plan? Can I use it as a wi-fi only browsing device(my Tilt 2 won't connect via wi-fi, it seems, the SIM having never been installed)? I could try data block on the account or data block software & put his SIM in. I thought the rationale for the data plan requirement was that the company could only make a profit, while subsidizing the price of these devices, by charging more than a fee for monthly voice service over the term of the contract and that, after the contract, the device is now mine(not rendered useless as even a phone should one not have a data plan), free and clear, to do with as I wish, or at least to use wi-fi without a plan(like my Tilt 2 is not doing)
When I got my FUZE in April, 2009 the saleswoman said that I could cancel the data plan in 6 months.. Online there was never an option to disable the data plan so I called and had it canceled that way. Now that it was canceled though, online does show that there is an option of no data plan. I bet though if I re-added the data plan that disable option will disappear again.
You can use this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610657
to block your data from ever being used. I use this to turn off AT&T ISP GPRS and MEdia Net. You can still send/receive texts and go online through WiFi.
@TheGlowingCurve, I don't believe just being an unlocked phone helps, my previous phones are all unlocked now but if I put my SIM in them again, att.com immediately changes my account's phone picture and model to the phone the SIM card is in. They know ALL about what phone you're using.
EDIT: I've never understood the relevance of http://www.htcclassaction.org/ to the Raphael. That site says there is no 3D acceleration or acceleration of videos and whatnot but of course there is acceleration. There is an ATI driver cab and it allows running of 3D programs like Diamond Hologram and COD2, not to mention TouchFLO3D and Sense UI. I don't even think that driver cab is needed because I honestly don't even install it. Video acceleration may not work in CorePlayer, but the solution is easy, don't use CorePlayer! The included Windows Media Player and Album programs are both accelerated and capable of playing H264 videos smoothly. The problems mentioned in http://www.htcclassaction.org/ have nothing to do with our phone and in the site's updates (which are all at least 2 years old!) it even says the Touch Diamond at release had 3D capabilities already.
I'm pretty sure your issues with the FUZE have to do with WM itself, not with HTC's phone.
I too had a tilt, but i put the sim card in teh new fuze i bought. Both of my phones have no data.
I got some bull**** out of them in december when i asked. But i called in the other day, and it was like oh yeah np. No more data.
Because i was a cingular customer im grandfathered in. If you had a PDA prior to november of last year, you also are grandfathered in.
dont take no for an answer.
Just to be clear, ive now shut data off and turned it on on the fuze alone 6 times. LOL
freekquency said:
I too had a tilt, but i put the sim card in teh new fuze i bought. Both of my phones have no data.
I got some bull**** out of them in december when i asked. But i called in the other day, and it was like oh yeah np. No more data.
Because i was a cingular customer im grandfathered in. If you had a PDA prior to november of last year, you also are grandfathered in.
dont take no for an answer.
Just to be clear, ive now shut data off and turned it on on the fuze alone 6 times. LOL
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So you bought the FUZE after November of last year?
Did you have to call them each time to shut down the data plan? Is the charge for that prorated?
lol so now that AT&T removed their unlimited data plan and introduced limited data plans, what happens with future smart phones? Will AT&T require the higher priced data plan?
EDIT: http://gizmodo.com/5555561/hey-att-we-want-rollover-bytes
i just got a fuze from the MP and bam less than 3 hours after taking my sim card out of my pantech impact which had the unlim data and text on our family plan ..they nailed me for the fuze and changed me to the 25 dollar smartphone plan .... should i switch back to the impact and just tell them i was fixing a freinds phone and shut off the data connection on the fuze and get the 30 dollar plan again or wont it work
Using the Fuze with no data plan and using WiFi.
Well there's actually some things to keep in mind here. Being that I have had some experience with AT&T smartphones for busiensses, I know that this is a sore spot to their network users. If you're using a PDA and haven't switched the IMEI online, you're bound to receive a bill from AT&T if you're using the WAP settings from the stock AT&T ROM build. To get around this, unlock your SIM, change the IMEI online, use NoData, and set up your phone to search and prompt you for WiFi hotspots. Turn the phone off or to Airplane mode also from the connection manager. There are plenty that are free once you're in their area, or near an open private WIFI network area. Simply connect, and send all of your data via Wifi connections. This will keep the device from auto-detecting the AT&T WAP and/or using the WAP settings.
One extra step that I take is to erase your WAP data completely from the connection manager so that it's not automatically recognizing the AT&T network settings. You can then choose your settings when needed using any GSM network anywhere in the world, but be careful! This can be expensive if you're not watching your settings. Unlocking your SIM is a MUST! If you're smart, you can set up a T-Mobile prepay account to use the partner(AT&T) GSM network when needed, if needed. This will normally cost you $.99 per day to use.
I hope this helps you better understand the WAP settings. One note.....trash the stock AT&T ROM for one that you'll find here on this site. There have been many that have worked hard to modify this device so that you can fully experience the device fully.
ok i bought my fuze from someone here at xda and he wasnt sure if it is unlocked or not
how can i find out i dont have access to a tmobile sim ..how do i change the imei online
and if i dont have a data connection will the time and weather still update and im using Tael rom ..the weird thing is i had a fuze that got stolen that i was using on the 30 dollar unlimited plan that i singed up for in feb2010 when i got service them and got the samsung impression free then switched to my fuze and they never caught on but like i said in my post above when my gf hooked us up on the family plan with the impacts ..when i switched to my new fuze they got me quick ..and this fuze is setup the same way as my previuos fuze