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My first post, so just in short... great job guys! Each post and thread is very, very helpfull, informative and easy to understand.
Anyway, I am running XDA WM6 r2a. I've noticed that battery performance dropped significantly compared to WM 5 I used to run for a week. With moderate use, no WiFi or BT, just using it as a phone and PDA. I can get no more then 2 days. In fact, it is no more then day and the half.
Also, changing screen orientation when sliding keyboard is very slow compared to WM 5, IMHO.
So, my question, is that only because of using WM 6 or should I try something else? Using task manager, I see "iddle process"which is always at 50% minimum of CPU.
On today screen I use only HTC home plugin.
And yes, I o/c to 234 with battery status. Could this app drain my battery?
TIA,
Никола
uninstall BS
Nikola P. said:
My first post, so just in short... great job guys! Each post and thread is very, very helpfull, informative and easy to understand.
Anyway, I am running XDA WM6 r2a. I've noticed that battery performance dropped significantly compared to WM 5 I used to run for a week. With moderate use, no WiFi or BT, just using it as a phone and PDA. I can get no more then 2 days. In fact, it is no more then day and the half.
Also, changing screen orientation when sliding keyboard is very slow compared to WM 5, IMHO.
So, my question, is that only because of using WM 6 or should I try something else? Using task manager, I see "iddle process"which is always at 50% minimum of CPU.
On today screen I use only HTC home plugin.
And yes, I o/c to 234 with battery status. Could this app drain my battery?
TIA,
Никола
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uninstalla BatteryStatus...is a VERY good idea!
...XDA r2a is soooo fast without overclock
you'll see...your battery "come back" to life....
...another little idea:
before flash a wm6 rom, flash your mobile with an "original" one
ciao
tommy
TauRho said:
uninstalla BatteryStatus...is a VERY good idea!
...XDA r2a is soooo fast without overclock
you'll see...your battery "come back" to life....
...another little idea:
before flash a wm6 rom, flash your mobile with an "original" one
ciao
tommy
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i am so tired about all this stories...
I NEVER FLASHED BACK TO ANY CUSTOM ROM
I NEVER CHARGED MY WIZARD TO 100% BEFORE FLASHING
I NEVER REMOVED MY STORAGE CARD WHILE FLASHING
I NEVER SR IMMEDIATELY AFTER FLASH
I NEVER HR IMMEDIATELY AFTER FLASH
I NEVER USED CLEAR STORAGE AFTER FLASH
I NEVER REFLASHED IPL/SPL OR RADIO AFTER A ROM FLASH
ETC ETC ETC ....
AND I NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS!!!
I think all of this are just stupid stories because someone did not understood what his real problem is...
Yes, overclock will drain the battery, try cpuscalar function in batterystatus ,It may help
Nikola P. said:
My first post, so just in short... great job guys! Each post and thread is very, very helpfull, informative and easy to understand.
Anyway, I am running XDA WM6 r2a. I've noticed that battery performance dropped significantly compared to WM 5 I used to run for a week. With moderate use, no WiFi or BT, just using it as a phone and PDA. I can get no more then 2 days. In fact, it is no more then day and the half.
Also, changing screen orientation when sliding keyboard is very slow compared to WM 5, IMHO.
So, my question, is that only because of using WM 6 or should I try something else? Using task manager, I see "iddle process"which is always at 50% minimum of CPU.
On today screen I use only HTC home plugin.
And yes, I o/c to 234 with battery status. Could this app drain my battery?
TIA,
Никола
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Well, you really had a strong battery. My Wizzard only lasted for about a day and a half, when i was using wm5. But when i flashed to wm6. It seems to be longer than 2 days.
Of course, I am using it very frequently everyday
I'm currently running the XM6r3 ROM, and my battery life is less than half of what it was with WM5. Anyone else notice this? I'm thinking it might be related to the weather panel app.
First, did you flash an official rom before you upgraded to XM6r3? If you have a corrupted Extended ROM, this has been shown to cause battery life that goes down very quickly.
Second, Yes, other apps you put on that are constantly accessing the network and such can cause battery life to go down faster. Did you have WeatherPanel on WM5? DO you do Push email (and how often is it setup to check / push)? Are you running BatteryStatus and overclocking? That definetly pulls more on the battery.
What Radio are you using on your phone? Newer radios (2.47, 2.61, and 2.69) all pull more on the battery (IMO) than the stock 2.25 radios from T-Mobile and Cingular. I think 2.19 is probably the most efficient (but also doesn't have as good of reception for some, but seems to work well for me).
When I first started messing with custom roms here, first AKU 3.3 (so WM5) and then WM6 roms, I would gripe about less battery life. Then it hit me, I'm using my phone WAY more than I was when I was on stock WM5 as it was so unreliable for me on the official roms, and now the phone does so much more. I do WAY more with my phone now with these custom roms. So yeah, battery life is going to go down faster as the phone is now being used all the time.
Also, I do think most of the custom WM6 roms do use more battery, but look at how much more they are doing by default.
If you really want to do a comparison, then build a WM6 rom that looks just like an official WM5 and don't use the phone anymore than you did with WM5 (same apps, etc). I think you will find the battery life is much closer in that case (but you won't be happy since its not overclocked, missing great apps you are now used to, etc)...
I'm experiencing the same issues...with only 2 or 3 days of the iphone theme, with Slide2Unlock and WisBar, my battery barely makes it 18 hours.
I'm going to try the suggestion of flashing it back to original and them just the latest WM6 (screw the iphone stuff).
I do take into effect that I use it more than I did before. I did not have weather panel with wm5, and I also use battery status. I only recently started overclocking it. I also use direct push with our exchange server.
I flashed it with the T-Mobile rom before upgrading. The radio is 2.25.11.
I guess it just comes with the territory I'm going to have get in the habit of charging it more often, because I like it WAY more than WM5.
mfrazzz said:
First, did you flash an official rom before you upgraded to XM6r3? If you have a corrupted Extended ROM, this has been shown to cause battery life that goes down very quickly.
Second, Yes, other apps you put on that are constantly accessing the network and such can cause battery life to go down faster. Did you have WeatherPanel on WM5? DO you do Push email (and how often is it setup to check / push)? Are you running BatteryStatus and overclocking? That definetly pulls more on the battery.
What Radio are you using on your phone? Newer radios (2.47, 2.61, and 2.69) all pull more on the battery (IMO) than the stock 2.25 radios from T-Mobile and Cingular. I think 2.19 is probably the most efficient (but also doesn't have as good of reception for some, but seems to work well for me).
When I first started messing with custom roms here, first AKU 3.3 (so WM5) and then WM6 roms, I would gripe about less battery life. Then it hit me, I'm using my phone WAY more than I was when I was on stock WM5 as it was so unreliable for me on the official roms, and now the phone does so much more. I do WAY more with my phone now with these custom roms. So yeah, battery life is going to go down faster as the phone is now being used all the time.
Also, I do think most of the custom WM6 roms do use more battery, but look at how much more they are doing by default.
If you really want to do a comparison, then build a WM6 rom that looks just like an official WM5 and don't use the phone anymore than you did with WM5 (same apps, etc). I think you will find the battery life is much closer in that case (but you won't be happy since its not overclocked, missing great apps you are now used to, etc)...
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Very hypothetical and analytical description of the Battery consumption problem being faced,cudn't be explained more elaborately .
Stock wm5 Roms never had any such applications as new wm6 custom Roms offer.
secondly over clocking will definitely effect the battery power.
I noticed too. Probably the file connmrg.exe is taking all the CPU power, that's why the battery's life is so worse. Batterystatus gives a constantly 100% CPU usage display...
IF you see battery status showing 100% cpu usage you have some other issue. Mine is only at 100% when I start an app or doing heavy work on it. Otherwise it idles back under 195Mhz most of the time with CPUscalar for me. Also depends on what ROM you are running and what apps you have added.
No Problem with battery
I have been using this rom since it was released and have had no problems at all with the battery life.
Is it possible to damage the battery by installing a new ROM
Is it possible to damage the battery by installing a new ROM? My 8125 battery was fine on old wm6 ROM, but after I installed XM6r3 (and yes, I did install t-mobile os before to clean it), my battery level goes through the floor.
I managed to charge it to over 50% and installed stock cingular rom, and with no extra applications installed, just the virgin cingular software, BT/wifi not enabled, just gsm radio I still see a drop of few % a minute! So basically, my phone is effectively cannot be detached from charger or my battery will drain very fast and loose ability to start os and begin charging again in the phone.
I can see (using wizard service tool) some cingular customization stuff on the hidden extended rom, does this mean extended rom is not a cause of this? Should I use format ROM tool in WST? (sorry for probably stupid questions)
Is there any way to check that it is indeed the battery being shot and not some obscure software issue? I find it hard to believe that good battery can go bad exactly at the same time as OS upgrade, I am hoping I am missing some obvious software fix
I believe its something else because my girlfriend calls me every morning and I take it out of the charger. I talk to her for a couple minutes 5 minutes tops and I hang up I look at batterystatus and it says 79% left tops. This is OD crazy I don't know if its the rom or the battery. I don't feel like paying 40 bux for a battery and same thing happens. I am currently installing a new rom I am gonna try this for acouple days and see what happens. I only noticed it for one rom but that rom I used for two to three weeks straight I didn't notice with the other roms because I never kept them for more then a day.
Strange enough (Battery life)
Strange enough before reading this post I thought that my phone's battery is dying. But know I can say that its definitely this XM6r3 ROM has some problem. To be precise there is definitely some application that eats the battery. As sometime my battery works fine and other time it just drain. If anyone can work on what application is eating the battery would be appreciated.
Rest the ROM is great.
Harwant
Anyone else notice that the battery life on the Treo is a whole lot worse when using WM6?
I am getting about 2 hours less after upgrading
Just wanted to see if I was the only one.
Thanks
I had the leaked att rom on my phone....and my battery life was the worst...lasted maybe 2 hours or so...
I just downloaded the generic rom to see if i would have a change....
so far i have had it for a full day of moderate use and my battery is still going strong....im left to assume that the rom change made the difference....
Can anyone else confirm that WM6 battery life is improved with the ROW ROM?
I can't say I "confirm", because I have not tried the generic ROM yet, but since installing the AT&T ROM, I have noticed a signifigant decrease in my battery life. I thought it might be chocked up to my heavy use of BT and the fact that I am running XCPUScaler to clock it in at 500MHz, but even with no BT use and disabling XCPU, I still see a 2 to 3 hour difference.
If you live in a 3g area and you are set to "auto" then yes your battery life will be shorter since those 3g bands require more "energy". I have learned to disable 3g for most internet use and only use 3g when I need it. Is this favorable; no, I'd rather not have to think about it. But until the battery technology and the processor/os interaction improve to be more energy efficient as is being seen with full-scale PCs, then we must find compromise. You can always buy a larger battery or carry more than one, but I'm happy with the software fix for now.
I created a shortcut to the band settings and assigned it to the PPT button for quick access to this setting to minimize the number of clicks.
Code:
how to:
1. Create a text file and input:
[INDENT]22#ctlpnl PLMOCPL.cpl,0,1?\Windows\cplmain.cpl,-7140[/INDENT]
2. Save the file as "[whatever name].lnk" and place it somewhere convenient on the device.
Hope this helps
Cheers
tmknight said:
If you live in a 3g area and you are set to "auto" then yes your battery life will be shorter since those 3g bands require more "energy".
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I agree with this, but there should not have been a noticable difference between 3G on WM5 versus 3G on WM6 - but several people have seen a significant (>20%) loss in battery life just from upgrading the OS using the leaked ROM (same hardware, same HSDPA support). I am one of those people.
Well, I tried the 'unofficial AT&T Rom' same thing. Battery life about 20% less.
But I can't even get through a day without having to charge up my phone. Pretty annoying
Mine's actually better since upgrading to the AT&T rom.
I live in an area where I am on the fringe of 3G availability, so my phone on WM5 was always eating up battery searching between GSM and 3G networks. I actually had to hard set the phone to GSM like tmknight to get through the day.
Since the update, I seem to be staying locked on 3G now, and battery life is a little better than where it was when on GSM with WM5. Would still like a standard size battery with longer life though ...
well i finally got the generic rom to work, after realizing that i had to keep the data cable plugged in...BONK...in any case i would have to concurr with the last post, my 3g is locked in and battery life is a tad bit better, not much to do a cart-wheel over, but...noticeable...
gwoo_ca said:
Anyone else notice that the battery life on the Treo is a whole lot worse when using WM6?
I am getting about 2 hours less after upgrading
Just wanted to see if I was the only one.
Thanks
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Ur right, I have an atom exec and the Wm6 made it to run for 5-6 hours only, that too without any phone calls and only GPRS usage. When I reflashed the WM5 back it is running normally. Something is WRONG with this new WM6
Hello all,
I was wondering if there are any other S710 users who have been experiencing battery issues with the HTC Vox.
For a while I was running Dr. Gonzo's Guava Rom and everything was great with it all except for the battery life. I didn't pay much attention to it, but it finally got on my nerves. It came to the point where I could only use the phone for around 14-16 hours under moderate use and wifi+bt OFF after a full charge.
Today, I flashed the VOX with fireburned CLEAN v1.2. and it seems to be the same. I don't recall having this issue with the Official ROM.
Battery issue? any ideas? I dont want to spend money on an extended battery if it is a software issue.
Much appreciated!
It seems same to me too. I flashed not less than 20 ROMs in my VOX's use of nine months and I found that my battery slowly got weakened and was going only for 14 15 hours without too much use. Practically I had to buy a fresh battery from www.megacapacity.com. It arrived yesterday and serving me about 1.5 days for normal use. It is 1100mah in place of 1050mah original but is of std size.
Opinion of other users invited.
Did not notice anything as such. My Vox is nearly 1 Year 4 months old. So I am not expecting much from it.
Because during my initial flashing, I never had any noticeable battery performance issues. I have flashed almost all ROMs of Dr. G's, a couple of fh's and 3 of fireburned's ROM, about to flash with the 4th
I've had my phone for approximately the same amount of time and I've only flashed it probably 4-5 times in total.
Perhaps I shall look into getting a new battery as well...I want to be able to use Wifi normally without losing the phone halfway through the day.
gwmnx said:
I've had my phone for approximately the same amount of time and I've only flashed it probably 4-5 times in total.
Perhaps I shall look into getting a new battery as well...I want to be able to use Wifi normally without losing the phone halfway through the day.
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I think you may have a hardware issue (not sure though). When I am not travelling, my phones battery at the end of the day shows more or less 60% charge left. I use flexmail to check my mails every hour. If there is any mail worth reading, then I use i.e. to check mails. So I think you can consider it moderate GPRS usage, plus there are of course voice calls . Though I do not use wifi or BT.
If you plan to buy a new battery though, I think it will be better if you go for an extended battery.
I read in another topic that it's somehow related to the Radio version.
parthabhatta said:
It seems same to me too. I flashed not less than 20 ROMs in my VOX's use of nine months and I found that my battery slowly got weakened and was going only for 14 15 hours without too much use. Practically I had to buy a fresh battery from www.megacapacity.com. It arrived yesterday and serving me about 1.5 days for normal use. It is 1100mah in place of 1050mah original but is of std size.
Opinion of other users invited.
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Parthabhatta, what were shipping charges to india? how much is the total cost? How much time does it take in delivery?
i am looking to buy a new one same 1100mAh.
Because im new with Vox in generally can someone tell me what should be aproximated battery life with vox? (NO wifi, NO bt, 1-2h/day using normal phone calling)
What could be normal battery life with TCPMP and movie divx 320x240 256kbit ?
Everyone seems to have great battery life, so I wouldn't be the person to tell you what the average battery life is.
I just tested out the battery life this morning. 100% charged and i turned on Wifi to use. 45 minutes later, my phone dies.
So I get less than an hour of power on Wifi. I don't think that seems like a battery problem. Using it normally, gives me at least 14-15 hours+ (no wifi/no bt).
Perhaps its a hardware bug? Software bug? Any input is appreciated.
gwmnx said:
Everyone seems to have great battery life, so I wouldn't be the person to tell you what the average battery life is.
I just tested out the battery life this morning. 100% charged and i turned on Wifi to use. 45 minutes later, my phone dies.
So I get less than an hour of power on Wifi. I don't think that seems like a battery problem. Using it normally, gives me at least 14-15 hours+ (no wifi/no bt).
Perhaps its a hardware bug? Software bug? Any input is appreciated.
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Hi gwmnx!
The same problem i have to, my battery life is very poor , maxim 10- 12 hours(no wifi/no bt), without browsing internet or other else and battery dies.
I buy a new battery, and exact same problem with it, in maximum 14 hours is finished
I was in a service , and they verify my batterys, and they told me the batterys is very good both.
And probably the phone have a hardware issue , but they don't know to repare it because they don't have a electronic schematic of my phone
I tested 3 ROM's by now, but nothing is change, with every ROM, same problem.
I don't know what to do and what to say, i'm very disappointed
Excuse me for bad English , i don't speak very well!
Same issue i am facing here. My phone battery dies in 10-12 hours. Don't know if it happens due to lot of ROM upgrades everyday or using overclocking...
I am going to purchase a new battery soon. If that also works same, i will revert to original VOX 6.0 ROM. No overlcoking, no R&D, no research no development further because you need to compromise with hardware malfuntioning, damages etc against this kind of R&D.
Skchattha
I bought my battery for 15.5$. Shipping is free worldwide on all items. It reached me in 16 days. It is now giving me 1.5 to 2 days on fireburned 1.2 ROM.
For a change, you just change the homescreen from sliding to anything like windows default. And make normal usage. I'm dead sure you'll get better results even if you're in Rose ROM. I mean, you'll get better battery performance if you're not in sliding homescreen.
I'm using Fireburned's 1.2 version ROM.
Thanks
ragsAnurag said:
For a change, you just change the homescreen from sliding to anything like windows default. And make normal usage. I'm dead sure you'll get better results even if you're in Rose ROM. I mean, you'll get better battery performance if you're not in sliding homescreen.
I'm using Fireburned's 1.2 version ROM.
Thanks
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How does the sliding panel attribute to 45 minutes of wifi usage. I'm not even on the homescreen, just using the web browser?
I mean, I think it might be a definite reason since I only started noticing poor battery life after 6.1. With the original Vox WM6.0, I definitely had better battery life.
there are some roms that kills the battery life to around half or more. like gonzo's latest rose rom.
parthabhatta said:
Skchattha
I bought my battery for 15.5$. Shipping is free worldwide on all items. It reached me in 16 days. It is now giving me 1.5 to 2 days on fireburned 1.2 ROM.
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Thanks Parthabhatta, its from megacapacity, right?
skchattha said:
Thanks Parthabhatta, its from megacapacity, right?
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Yeah from megacapacity. Extended batteries are also available for around 21$
Sorry skchattha! its for 18.5$and not 15.5$ (actually 15.5$ was for my nokia battery). I confused. Just go to the site and it will be clear. Actually I was charged Rs.948.00 in IndiaN Rupee.
parthabhatta said:
Yeah from megacapacity. Extended batteries are also available for around 21$
Sorry skchattha! its for 18.5$and not 15.5$ (actually 15.5$ was for my nokia battery). I confused. Just go to the site and it will be clear. Actually I was charged Rs.948.00 in IndiaN Rupee.
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Great man! Rs.948 is still cheaper, HTC service centre rates are Rs1390.
What do you mean by Extended battery? Any difference from normal battery?
And what about 2250mAh battery, does it fit fine or looks odd?
2250 mAh is the extended battery. I didnot buy although it was comparatively cheaper because to me it will not only look odd but make the phone bulky and heavier too. But now i feel that 2250 would have been a better choice as i am an avid gprs user. Now think and buy- difference of only 2.5/3 USD.
gwmnx said:
How does the sliding panel attribute to 45 minutes of wifi usage. I'm not even on the homescreen, just using the web browser?
I mean, I think it might be a definite reason since I only started noticing poor battery life after 6.1. With the original Vox WM6.0, I definitely had better battery life.
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Well, being in browser doesn't mean your homescreen is off. Sliding panel itself consumes lots of battery. Just change your homescreen from settings to something else not related to sliding panel or Rose Homescreen. For a change just change it back to windows default. let it be changed for a day (You won't loose anything). I strongly believe there would be some difference in battery consumption and consumption will be lesser.
Thanks
Extended Battery really looks too odd. it looks like you've added another battery
Hi all,
I have a few questions about the great ROMs posted on this forum:
1. does WM 6.5 consume more battery than WM 6.1?
2. what ROM do you find to be the best for battery life?
Thanks
well,possibly energy
looser9 said:
well,possibly energy
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As long as you remember this little tidbit:
• Backlight is set to high. You might want to change that.
Then maybe you can get a little bit better battery life on the phone.
Nah.. my ROM is not best for battery. It's built for speed...
However you can run it and expect a day out of it. Like other users suggest, turn down the backlight, turn off 3G and don't sync too much (do not use data too much in general) and you'll have plenty of battery life.
p.s. Let's not forget the batteries in our phones are a couple years old too now, so you definitely wont get the same battery life you were getting when you bought the phone
Right mate, Sense uses a lot of battery so use the standard windows mobile home screen, Disable 3G unless our using the Internet same as Data Connection. I only lost 12% battery today and i was playing a bit of Boing as well installed a few apps and listened to music (only like 3-4 songs) So yeah .....
looser9 said:
well,possibly energy
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No offence, but concerning battery life, try anything BUT Energy ROMs. Even though NRG developer claims there are no reasons for it, these ROMs suck your battery dry in a very short time (a day or so). Especially CHT 2.0 versions, besides they are pretty and fast. Very poor battery life was the reason I had to switch from NRG to stock ROM only 2 days ago.
you mean stock htc rom or a stock-like wm 6.5 rom?
teddybalan said:
Hi all,
1. does WM 6.5 consume more battery than WM 6.1?
Thanks
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Well it depends also of your use voice and data use. Personnaly, I have 2 full working days with Exquisite 4.20 (Radio 1.17.25.09 & Ril 1.15.25.14), Active Sync push @15min, and mainly a mail and web usage (so it's mainly Opera 9.7 that lays in RAM). I consider this as pretty good, but if you have an extensive use of Music, or Video over voice and data, no miracles are possible whatever the rom you use.
As far as I remember, a stock HTC rom did not gave more stamina, but cooked stock 6.5 will do. Sense or TF3D are not neutral for battery at all.
NRGZ don't be so shy...
I use EnergyROM and it can go 2 whole days with good amount of usage before it needs a recharge. And 3-4 if I do not use so much, or just answer calls and send txts.
Anyways, great ROMS! And god thank you that you still update for us Raphael users!
tkima1 said:
NRGZ don't be so shy...
I use EnergyROM and it can go 2 whole days with good amount of usage before it needs a recharge. And 3-4 if I do not use so much, or just answer calls and send txts.
Anyways, great ROMS! And god thank you that you still update for us Raphael users!
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My experiences concern one but latest 21680 ROM. I hope in 21681 something was done with the poorest energy management I had ever seen. My phone couldn't last one whole day (sic!), so I got rid of that ROM and now battery lasts for 2-3 days, as always. Besides, I like NRG stuff very much and consider this a single stumble on a way to perfectness.