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I have constructed some video tests and the preliminary data I am getting back is that the Touch Pro is not great when it comes to video playback. Not at the moment anyway. Though my tests were done with the latest Coreplayer I would extrapolate that the results are indicative of the overall video performance irrespective of the player used.
File 1: Mpeg-4 ASP Xvid 320x160 287 kbps
File 2: Mpeg-4 ASP Xvid 640x320 479 kbps
File 3: Mpeg-4 AVC x264 320x160 200 kbps
File 4: Mpeg-4 AVC x264 640x320 400 kbps
All audio is AAC 24 KHz 64 kbps.
Device: HTC Raphael
CPU&Clock: Qualcomm MSM7201A 528MHz
GPU: N/A (integrated ARM926EJ-S [email protected])
ROM: WM6.1 FireROM v0.3
File 1: 205.40%
File 2: 126.52%
File 3: 159.63%
File 4: 68.29%
Device: HTC Hermes
CPU&Clock: Samsung SC32442A ARM 400MHz
GPU: ATI Imageon 2282
ROM: WM6.1 PDACornerPro v25 RBSN
File 1: 387%
File 2: 140%
File 3: 114%
File 4: 34%
I don't know how much the video performance can be improved with newer ROMS or optimised software but I think it will take a while before any drastic improvements are seen, if ever. I have the video files available for those would like to test this for themselves and can PM the links. They short clips might be considered copyrighted so I will not post them.
Hmm
I have some DVD rips which were encoded for use on the Sony PSP, with the following attributes:
Format: MPEG4
Video: AVC aka H.264
Video Size: 480 x 272
Frame Rate: 29.970
Audio: MPEG4 AAC Audio
Audio Format: 96000Hz 2 Ch
I figured it'd be useful to be able to play those rips on my TP, so I tried it using Coreplayer v1.2.5.
There was no sound - I cannot fix this and have raised a ticket with Coreplayer support.
Nevertheless, the benchmark gave an average speed of 101.90% so that's not too bad.
Has anyone else tried these types of files on their TP using Coreplayer? Have you managed to get any sound?
The thread title should be changed into:
"Don't expect great video from CorePlayer on your Raphael."
The problem is not the Raphael. The problem is the CorePlayer! At least when playing MP4 files. I've tested several MP4 files and the CorePlayer is playing them choppy while the WMP Mobile has no problems!
As I've posted in the topic with touch pro issues:
poor directdraw, framebuffer/video performance.
Just to make an idea: an old device from 2005 with omap 850 200mhz CPU performs better in this area than the touch pro @ qualcomm 528mhz. what a shame. The test were done in this topic (in romanian, sorry). CorePlayer was used for benchmark. I will summarize.
- HTC Tornado overclocked (262Mhz) max performance: 174.22%
- Touch Pro max performance: 172,67%
Both in Raw framebuffer mode. When used QTV it gains only 162,64%. How come?
It's pitty, 262Mhz from OMAP performs better than 528!!!Mhz from Qualcomm?!
The video used for tests is this one. (320x240 @ 25FPS)
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Of course, this may be fixed with software optimization.. But it's kinda annoying that the existing 3rd-party doesn't work so well..
I saw in a romanian review that touch pro is under diamond at Graphics index.
diamond: 1662.31
touch pro: 357.03
more: http://www.chip.ro/stiri/hardware/review:_htc_touch_pro/22135 (go to bottom)
peterbonge said:
The thread title should be changed into:
"Don't expect great video from CorePlayer on your Raphael."
The problem is not the Raphael. The problem is the CorePlayer! At least when playing MP4 files. I've tested several MP4 files and the CorePlayer is playing them choppy while the WMP Mobile has no problems!
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All the .mp4 files I transcoded played fine in Coreplayer. The container (.mp4, .avi) is not the problem it's what is inside. Anything benchmarking over a 100% will play smoothly. I will PM you the links to my clips and you can tell me how they all play in both WMP and Coreplayer.
DSF said:
touch pro is under diamond at Graphics index.
diamond: 1662.31
touch pro: 357.03
more: http://www.chip.ro/stiri/hardware/review:_htc_touch_pro/22135 (go to bottom)
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This is concerning. I want a device where I don't have to worry about converting video any more.
Wam7 said:
All the .mp4 files I transcoded played fine in Coreplayer. The container (.mp4, .avi) is not the problem it's what is inside. Anything benchmarking over a 100% will play smoothly. I will PM you the links to my clips and you can tell me how they all play in both WMP and Coreplayer.
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With WMP the first two are running fine, the last two have just sound without a picture. The codec (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC) is not the problem because I have many vids with this codec running fine.
I don't have the time to test the files with the CorePlayer at the moment, but here are the specs of a file which runs choppy with the CorePlayer, but fine with the WMP:
Video: avc1 / H.264/MPEG-4 AVC / 480 x 360 / 509 kbps / 29.971 fps
Audio: mp4a: MPEG-4 AAC LC / 44100Hz 123 kbps, stereo
The problem of the current releases of coreplayer is that the QTV driver provided is not the one for the MSM7201A processor; it's the one of the TyTnII (MSM7200 If I'm not mistaken).
To fully exploit the "graphic accelerator" of our TPs I think we'll have to wait for an optimized version of coreplayer for our HTCs (coreplayer 1.3 as anounced in their website, as they say that a version optimized for Touchs will be released soon).
I've contacted HTC support about video performance.
Answer in short: "The Touch Pro is not made for playing Media. It was made as a business device."
TyTN was made as a business device and included ATI Imageon GPU.
Hmm...guess I learnt something new today. I always thought hardware wise the Touch Pro would be the same if not better than Diamond, i.e. whatever videos the Diamond can play, the Touh Pro can do just as well. But looking at the site provided in Mike's post, I'm guessing that's not the case.
phrozact said:
Hmm...guess I learnt something new today. I always thought hardware wise the Touch Pro would be the same if not better than Diamond, i.e. whatever videos the Diamond can play, the Touh Pro can do just as well. But looking at the site provided in Mike's post, I'm guessing that's not the case.
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I really think there's some kind of error regarding graphics benchmark results there, since Touch Pro has the same CPU, the same 3D accelerator and more RAM !
seether said:
I really think there's some kind of error regarding graphics benchmark results there, since Touch Pro has the same CPU, the same 3D accelerator and more RAM !
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Someone could give it a try with another video. I don't have a TP yet ot I'd try it.
Basically I want to be able to throw a 600mb, VGA resolution file from my computer straight onto an SD card and watch it on the go without having to bother about conversions. Is this not possible?
mike freegan said:
Someone could give it a try with another video. I don't have a TP yet ot I'd try it.
Basically I want to be able to throw a 600mb, VGA resolution file from my computer straight onto an SD card and watch it on the go without having to bother about conversions. Is this not possible?
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I havent tried this yet, but I will once I get back home tomorrow.. Would be awesome if that worked!
EDIT: Loading in a episode of Dexter (original release, DVDScr.XVID) on, and installing TCMP.. Il post results!
Loaded "Dexter.S03E01.DVDScr.XviD-NOTYOU.avi" onto my memory card and played it in TCPMP and it worked more or less flawlessly!! No need to worry about playback performance! Although to get 100% perfect playback, it should be converted or something as the playback did suffer som slight stutters from time to time.
EDIT: The only thing this device suffers from in terms of video playback is 65k colors.
err that's weird look at the results posted at these sites:
http://img2.portavik.net/upload/file_23/37bd53de9a906fe4/table_bench.gif
and this one:
http://www.ferra.ru/online/communicators/80844/ (in the middle of a page SPB test
Guys sorry, but what are u trying to play in Raphael, that this device is not so powerful for you?
I watched almost 20 movies (DivX for PC) / series on Raphael and withou any problem. Video is smooth, great and thats it...
P.S. I am watching movies on CorePlayer
MaRaHoX said:
Guys sorry, but what are u trying to play in Raphael, that this device is not so powerful for you?
I watched almost 20 movies (DivX for PC) / series on Raphael and withou any problem. Video is smooth, great and thats it...
P.S. I am watching movies on CorePlayer
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When I tried to load up Dexter.S03E01.DVDScr.XviD-NOTYOU with CorePlayer, I only got audio, no video... But TCPMP worked quite well..
yeah im searching for proper video settings to convert files to for my device using catalyst or pocketdivx encoder, still searching on that one.
but then i tried just throwing my original episode of entourage and yeah it looks awesome., will probably do that more often with the faster file transfer and once i get a bigger sd card.
The firmware drivers do need a bit of work and coreplayer 1.2.5 doesn't fully support the touch pro as the makers have made clear.
I would suggest waiting for coreplayer 1.3 and maybe a few newer ROMs before giving final judgement, though Qtv specs on the qualcom chips do say it maxes out at 640x480 15-30fps 384kbps if i remember right.
FYI: Qtv is a software codec specifically designed for maximum performance on the 7201a chipset used by the touch pro. This is what coreplayer does not fully support yet (unlike on the TyTN).
Also, regarding HTC's response, why don't you ask the same question again but about the Touch Diamond, as it's not a business device.
seether said:
I really think there's some kind of error regarding graphics benchmark results there, since Touch Pro has the same CPU, the same 3D accelerator and more RAM !
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What 3D accelerator does the Pro/Diamond use? What chip?
Anyone know of any games that natively support 800x480 ?
Have been searching but only found VGA native games at the moment - I also wonder whather a vga game will work on a 800x480 screen.
Being ahead of the market is a pain ....
just found this link for games that are compatible:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462217
however, I am more interested in actually created for pure 800x480
Hay, this is my very first post!
any ways... yes, this is another n00b question but please help?
I brought a mobile on ebay that claims to be a htc diamond2 and yea... it's a fake which i have no problem with. i mean its looks the same and does everything i need.
So.. its running windows mobile 6.1 Is there anyway i can upgrade it to 6.5?
Specs
Available Language
Chinese, English, Spanish (ONLY can install one language)
Network
GSM : 850 / 900 /1800 /1900MHz
Internet: GPRS / WAP
WLAN: Support WIFI (IEEE 802.11b/g)
Java
Java 2.0
System
Windows mobile 6.1 Professional for Pocket PC
CPU: Qualcomm MSM7200A 533MHz
Display Size: 3.2 inch QVGA TFT touch screen, 65K color, 240 x 400 pixels
Camera
3.2 mega pixel camera for Picture (2048 x 1536) & Video capability
OS
Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1Pocket PC
Bluetooth
2.0 High Speed Transfer, A2DP Bluetooth stereo sound
Data Services
SMS, MMS, GPRS, Email
Playback
MP3, WAV, MIDI, AMR
Battery
Rechargeable Li-ion battery 1250mAh
Memory
256MB RAM / 128MB ROMExpandable to 16GB Max (miniT-flash) Build in 2GB
Memory Card
Galnaume Platform
java, 3D, PPC, 3D game downloading, tens of classic games as attachment
Any help would be great! Thanks
Welcome to the forums!
If the device is fake, ROMs for the official genuine device will probably not work on it.
It could be upgradeable but I don't think that there is any ROM available.
A Diamond 2 with 240x400 resolution? That is fake! Don't believe in the information given but try comparing those with offical specifications and the seller one's.
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some features of this version:
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That looks awesome.
Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9100 avec Tapatalk
Not quite sure what settings I am supposed to select on the PC. The benchmark always goes full screen regardless of the "windowed" tick box setting.
Also what graphic quality setting should be set on the PC to match the mobile? Default appears to be "Fantastic".
Anyway my results :
International Galaxy S3 Quad Core :
Average FPS : 18.8531
PC :
Intel i7 975 Extreme Edition @ 4GHz (Quad core with Hyperthreading)
12GB Triple Channel DDR3 RAM @ 1866MHz
Nvidia GeForce 295 GTX (2 x SLI GPUs on one card)
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Edit... Didn't realise there was such a significant difference between 3DC-BMV-v1.00-Beta2.zip and 3DC-B-V1.00-Beta.zip :
Average FPS : 71.05304 (3DC-B-V1.00-Beta.zip)
Average FPS : 401.7200 (3DC-BMV-v1.00-Beta2.zip)
laxity said:
Not quite sure what settings I am supposed to select on the PC. The benchmark always goes full screen regardless of the "windowed" tick box setting.
Also what graphic quality setting should be set on the PC to match the mobile? Default appears to be "Fantastic".
Anyway my results :
International Galaxy S3 Quad Core :
Average FPS : 18.8531
PC :
Intel i7 975 Extreme Edition @ 4GHz (Quad core with Hyperthreading)
12GB Triple Channel DDR3 RAM @ 1866MHz
Nvidia GeForce 295 GTX (2 x SLI GPUs on one card)
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Average FPS : 71.05304
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Jealous on your pc
sony xperia ray ics 4.0.4
stock rom unrooted
laxity said:
Not quite sure what settings I am supposed to select on the PC. The benchmark always goes full screen regardless of the "windowed" tick box setting.
Also what graphic quality setting should be set on the PC to match the mobile? Default appears to be "Fantastic".
Anyway my results :
International Galaxy S3 Quad Core :
Average FPS : 18.8531
PC :
Intel i7 975 Extreme Edition @ 4GHz (Quad core with Hyperthreading)
12GB Triple Channel DDR3 RAM @ 1866MHz
Nvidia GeForce 295 GTX (2 x SLI GPUs on one card)
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Average FPS : 71.05304
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I would buy a new graphic card if you need your system for something media/3D rendering related.
I have a i7 2600K
8GB RAM
GTX660TI
and get 190FPS average.
While watching TopGear at the same time on the second monitor.
I got pink trees in the distance on my Optimus 2X
Nebucatnetzer said:
I would buy a new graphic card if you need your system for something media/3D rendering related.
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Yeah I know I use it for gaming and my graphics card upgrade is long overdue. Probably going for the 690 GTX but was holding out to see if there would be an 8GB version.
Not sure if my results are frame rate limited or something (v-sync?). My desktop is running at 5120x1600 so not sure if that might affect the results.Probably just my aging gfx card though.
beta2.apk not working on my gnex 4.1.1, opens black screen, rotate, rotate back and exit
Intel 3770K at 4.4GHz, nVidia 660GTi, 16GB Ram = 163fps.
Altering the resolution and/or quality indeed doesn't change anything...
laxity said:
Yeah I know I use it for gaming and my graphics card upgrade is long overdue. Probably going for the 690 GTX but was holding out to see if there would be an 8GB version.
Not sure if my results are frame rate limited or something (v-sync?). My desktop is running at 5120x1600 so not sure if that might affect the results.Probably just my aging gfx card though.
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There seems to be a problem IMHO. Even though those are fairly old GPU's they still shouldn't be that slow, even with 5120x1600 Resolution.
Here's my rig and results.
i5 2500k
16GB Corsair Vengeance (4x4)
2x GTX 580 Hydro Copper 2 3GB
Windows 7 Ultimate
I average out to about 466 FPS. Settings appear to be broken.
My Verizon Galaxy S3 seems to be unable to run the Benchmark. I have the .apk installed, but it will crash the moment I try and open up the app. Running Unofficial CM10
Laptop : HP Envy 15, Intel Core i7 720QM 1.6 Ghz, Ati Radeon Mobility HD4830 1 Gb DDR3, 10 Gb DDR3 Ram, Windows 7 Home Premium X64 SP1
PC Version Average FPS : 38
Mobile Version Average FPS : 168
Samsung Galaxy S2 GT-i9100 - Stock ICS 4.0.3 Vodafone RO, no OC, no root etc.
Average FPS : 15
PC: AMD Sempron 3200+ 1.8Ghz Single Core(or something like that)
1GB RAM
Not sure about graphic, all i know is that its ati with 256mb video ram
42fps
Android:
HTC Evo 3d
CPU - 1.7Ghz
GPU(Adreno 220) - 320Mhz(overclocked)
9fps
Here are my results,
Intel E8400 @ 3.85ghz
Nvidia GTX 260 216p 896mb SLI
4GB 800mhz RAM
Pretty old spec but still runs games decently
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PC Version - 81 FPS
PC Mobile Version - 319 FPS
Nexus 7 Stock - Fails to open
HTC Desire Z running ICS - Hangs on application boot screen
ok guys here is my result
with my old notebook got 81 average fps /intel core2duo T9600 and nvidia g105m
with sony xperia s got 9,4 average fps /stock kernel and stock ics rom
with ainol aurora2 got 12,4 average fps /latest cm9 rom from christian troy
Same as the gnex user black screen and then nothing.
Using Galaxy s3 i9300 running 4.1.1 leaked stock rom.
On my laptop AMD c60 1ghz dual core with AMD 4250 GPU 2gb getting 34 average
PC [Q6600 @ 2,4gHz, amd 6950HD 2GB]
135fps
Galaxy s3 [international stock 4.0.4]
14fps
Amazing too see how my phone is only 10 times slower than my pc!
P.C
CPU Type QuadCore Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850, 3000 MHz
Motherboard Name Asus P5Q Pro Turbo
System Memory 6144 MB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
Video Adapter AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series 1024 MB (Asus eah6850)
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Phones in sig
3DC Benchmark v1.00Beta (main version)
Windows :
Resolution 1280*1024
GFX Fantastic
Average FPS 45.10273
Resolution 1280*1024
GFX Fastest
Average FPS 44.92807 - ???? slower ????
3DC Benchmark Mobile Version v1.00Beta2
Windows:
Resolution 800*600
GFX Fastest
Average FPS 218.6416
Android:
Sensation Average FPS 10.09289
Desire Average FPS 3.002397
Crash & burn on Galaxy Nexus (CM10). Running OS X right now, whenever I get to Windows I'll post.
running Android 4.0.3 on LG Optimus 4X HD v10f, stock / modified tabletUI edition. (Tegra3 quadcore device at 1.5Ghz)
i can confirm the faulty purple graphics
maurico0o said:
Galaxy s3 [international stock 4.0.4]
14fps
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really so low? i thought S3 was a killer device (even stock)
Teclast X10 HD 3G Tablet: 10.1" 2560x1600 px Z3736F - 3G - 64GB - Android/Windows 8.1
I just received my X10HD 3G today, this tablet needs its own thread rather than have discussion in the X98 Air 3G thread, It's the newest dual boot from Teclast, that features a 2560 x 1600 IPS screen, 64GB eMMC and a keyboard dock over the already brilliant X98 Air 3G. I'll update this thread with more info and fixes etc once it becomes available.
Full Hardware Specifications:
Brand Name: Teclast
Teclast Model: X10 HD 3G
Processor Model: Intel Bay Trail-T Z3736F
Processor Main Frequency: Quad Core, 64-bit, 2.16GHz
GPU: Intel HD Graphics GEN7
Memory Capacity: 2Gb DDR3L
Tablet Data Capacity: 64GB
Screen Size: 10.1"
Display resolution: 2560x1600
Screen Technology : IPS 10 Point touch Capactive Screen
Dimensions : 258x163x8.2mm
Camera (Front): 2MP
Second Camera (Back): 5MP
Net Weight: 558g
Network Communiction: Built-in 3G,Bluetooth,Wifi
Extend Port: 3G External,Earphone Jack,OTG,TF card,Mini HDMI, keyboard dock port
Supporting Language: English,Russian,Spanish,Swedish,Portuguese,Turkish ,Italian,German,Chinese,French,Japanese,Polish,Ukr ainian,Greek,Hebrew
Other Feature: GPS, G Sensor,Phone Call
Operating System: Android 4.4.4 and Windows 8.1 Bing
Cell Capacity: 8000mAh
Official website:
http://www.teclast.com/zhuanti/X10HD3Gdualos/
Reviews
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://articles.imp3.net/65701-99.html (translated from Chinese)
http://techtablets.com/teclast-x10hd-3g/review/ [English Review]
Videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8gvo9UtgUs (Unboxing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FufrrOXHfeM (Physical comparison to the X98 Air 3G)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUq7-kkiF1k (Android Hands on)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUX03YFYqi4 (Windows hands on video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7gGBnPtTY (WIndows 1080p MVK, 2K, 4K video playback test and Photoshop)
Know issues
Play Store is broken (Fixable now, see below).
Windows battery meter is reading only one of the two battery cells. Full discharge and recharge might fix this issue. It did for a while for me.
Android Development
Play Store fix
Video tutorial Play Store fix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7mHGOmOPTc
1. Make sure you have root. (Use the X98 Air 3G tool box)
2. Edit /system/build.prop to:
ro.product.device=picassowifi
ro.product.local.language=en
ro.product.locale.region=US
3. Reboot device
many thanks @Kohe & @CrimsonKnight13
Android files thanks to @BIAzone & @BigBoppa
All files on Mega: https://mega.co.nz/#F!7lRg1IYI!UlephUbteHxCCNsjFinABw
MEGA (Contains 1-1 files from Teclast):
https: //mega.co.nz/#F!6B12lLID!7V3OemkA-g2ugkRqrBtTKQ
Zippyshare (Repacked to 200MB and deleted chinese Symbols - nothing else changed):
Tools - http ://www31.zippyshare.com/v/55528202/file.html
Chinese PDF Guide - http ://www35.zippyshare.com/v/67569177/file.html
X10HD 3G (M6K6) Android 4.4.4 V1.06
Part 1 http: //www51.zippyshare.com/v/92330356/file.html
Part 2 http: //www26.zippyshare.com/v/70455271/file.html
Part 3 http: //www22.zippyshare.com/v/67721743/file.html
One file download: Android4.4.4-V1.06 X10HD
How to partition the X10HD 3G so Android takes up the whole drive: Thanks @Kohe
add -b 7045160 -s 29360078 -t data -u 80868086-8086-8086-8086-000000000008 -l data -T 0 -P 0 /dev/block/mmcblk0
to
add -b 7045160 -s $calc($lba_end-16384) -t data -u 80868086-8086-8086-8086-000000000008 -l data -T 0 -P 0 /dev/block/mmcblk0
You'll need to edit the partition.tbl before flashing with Intel MFG Tools.
Windows Development and drivers
Windows 8.1 Driver dump I made:
http://techtablets.com/download/tec...ios_and_utilities_/X10HD Win drivers dump.zip
https://mega.co.nz/#!Jc1nRQxS!m49bAtGvIhRVnnaGgn6BYj1f60qJkfEnpsnWrpO_Gc4
How to make it a Windows only install: Thanks @Kohe
I found settings for windows only in X10HD WINPE images.
Make installer USB sticks and edit WINPE/Scripts/Main.cmd
Change line 44:
diskpart /s %InstallPath%\wimpart_dual.txt
to
diskpart /s %InstallPath%\wimpart.txt
I've already tested it.
C drive has 49.1GB free of 53.2GB.
Reserved for further info
I have my hands on this unit now and the build quality is good, there are few creaks and noises around the other trim when the top and bottom halves meet. The screen is as bright as my X98 Air 3G's and the audio is the same volume and no doubt the exact same speakers as the Air 3G.
Here is a unboxing and quick hands on video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8gvo9UtgUs
Touch response is good and smooth, my unit has a Hynix eMMC which reads at around 150mb/s and writes at 50mb/s. Cameras are the correct way up in both Android and Windows 8.1. 60hz screen in Windows. The battery life on my unit seems to read incorrectly, as Windows only reports the capacity of one battery cell of the two. I will see if a full discharge and recharge will fix this issue.
Windows seems to take advantage of the 2560 x 1600 display more and looks sharper and the metro titles and scaled well. Scaling is set at 250% on stock, but looks good.
Android: Play store is BROKEN! Not good at all, I have tried looking for an OTA, I think there is one. But I cannot download it. Maybe others might have some luck? Try here: http://www.teclast.com/tools/pad/pad.php My ID code is M6K6. I see files for the Windows 8.1 image and Android files, but I can't download them!
Edit: 30 minutes of Real Racing 3 and no crashes! Looks like my Z3736F is a good one.
Hendrickson said:
Windows seems to take advantage of the 2560 x 1600 display more and looks sharper and the metro titles and scaled well. Scaling is set at 250% on stock, but looks good.
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Hi Hendrickson, thanks for your effort!
Can you make a video showing windows usage with 250% scaling?
Do you think lower resolution in x16hd model would be better for windows usage?
Thanks
At teclast download site are files named (chrome translate) as:
2015.01.07
X10HD 3G (M6K6) - Dual System (Android & Windows8.1) System-Installationfiles
Android4.4.4: V1.06 & Windows8.1: V0.3_20141215
I´m just downloading but very slow.
I have no webspace to upload it but if anyone got some, give me a pm with link so i will upload.
(Size is 5 GB)
Can you try unity benchmark and all the games usually freezing x98? Is it true that boot from USB isn't possible?
zooster said:
Can you try unity benchmark and all the games usually freezing x98? Is it true that boot from USB isn't possible?
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@Hendrickson said he played 30 minutes RR3 and it didnt freeze at all
Yes, more games tested would be more exhaustive.
Is there any performance drop in games? Can you check fps both in games and animations/transitions?
antony84 said:
Hi Hendrickson, thanks for your effort!
Can you make a video showing windows usage with 250% scaling?
Do you think lower resolution in x16hd model would be better for windows usage?
Thanks
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I have done just this, but my video is 1.8GB upload is taking forever. Windows 8.1 looks and runs real nice on the unit. The default scaling fix it perfect.
zooster said:
Can you try unity benchmark and all the games usually freezing x98? Is it true that boot from USB isn't possible?
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Sure once I can get play fixed.
zooster said:
Yes, more games tested would be more exhaustive.
Is there any performance drop in games? Can you check fps both in games and animations/transitions?
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Asphalt 8 runs surprising well, a few drops frames, I'll have a video of it in the Win 8 hands on video I'm uploading. I honestly expected it run be super laggy and choppy and 2560 x 1600.
SUMMERBREEZE said:
@Hendrickson said he played 30 minutes RR3 and it didnt freeze at all
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I'm not sure if 30 minutes is enough, but a few races of Asphalt and no crashing either. I will test it some more.
BigBoppa said:
At teclast download site are files named (chrome translate) as:
2015.01.07
X10HD 3G (M6K6) - Dual System (Android & Windows8.1) System-Installationsdateien
Android4.4.4: V1.06 & Windows8.1: V0.3_20141215
I´m just downloading but very slow.
I have no webspace to upload it but if anyone got some, give me a pm with link so i will upload if dl finished.
(Size is 5 GB)
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Thanks, if you could just grab the Android files for now so I can test if it fixes the play store or not. I have tried to download it again, but it times out and fails.
Hendrickson said:
Thanks, if you could just grab the Android files for now so I can test if it fixes the play store or not. I have tried to download it again, but it times out and fails.
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That fits in my dropbox:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36695740/Dual System - Upgrade Tool.rar
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36695740/Manual.rar
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u...6)-Android4.4.4-V1.06- Systeminstallation.rar
X10HD 3G-Dual System (M6K6)-Windows8.1- Systeminstallation.rar is missing because of 4.5 GB size.
I also did a google-Translate of the chinese manual.pdf
Now it´s time to go to bed, in 5h night is over for me...
Hi
Specs in the first post are for the X98 (screen size and screen resolution)
BigBoppa said:
That fits in my dropbox:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36695740/Dual System - Upgrade Tool.rar
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36695740/Manual.rar
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u...6)-Android4.4.4-V1.06- Systeminstallation.rar
X10HD 3G-Dual System (M6K6)-Windows8.1- Systeminstallation.rar is missing because of 4.5 GB size.
I also did a google-Translate of the chinese manual.pdf
Now it´s time to go to bed, in 5h night is over for me...
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Great, thank you. I will download the Android update now and I hope it fixes the Play Store.
ZeAuReLiEn said:
Hi
Specs in the first post are for the X98 (screen size and screen resolution)
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Sorry fixed that now, I posted that at 2am and was half asleep!
What's the price for the Teclast X10HD 3G tablet?
WIFI performances
Is there any way to have some informations about the WIFI performances of this tablet, for example when close to a 802.11n (or 802.11ac) WIFI access point ?
I've got a Chuwi V89 Atom chinese Windows tablet and despite its 802.11n compatibility I can only reach 72mbps and about 4-5MB/sec while transfering files, and I'm considering changing it for a more performant tablet
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What's the price for the Teclast X10HD 3G tablet?
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Check these 2 sellers from AliExpress. There shall be occasional price-cuts/mobileDeals/sale.
Seller-1(Teclast Authorized)
Seller-2
Docking Station
And few others as listed in this post.
Annie Y said:
What's the price for the Teclast X10HD 3G tablet?
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POMP Mall $299
Pandawill $309
Tinydeal $319
Chinavasion $319
Aliexpress $339
Teclast X10HD 3G 2GB 64GB Tablet PC Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIskAN8jiSw
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Processor Main Frequency: Quad Core, 64-bit, 2.16GHz
GPU: Intel HD Graphics GEN7
Memory Capacity: 2Gb DDR3L
Tablet Data Capacity: 64GB
Screen Size: 10.1"
Display resolution: 2560x1600
Screen Technology : IPS 10 Point touch Capactive Screen
Dimensions : 258x163x8.2mm
Camera (Front): 2MP
Second Camera (Back): 5MP
Net Weight: 558g
Network Communiction: Built-in 3G,Bluetooth,Wifi
Extend Port: 3G External,Earphone Jack,OTG,TF card,Mini HDMI, keyboard dock port
Supporting Language: English,Russian,Spanish,Swedish,Portuguese,Turkish ,Italian,German,Chinese,French,Japanese,Polish,Ukr ainian,Greek,Hebrew
Other Feature: GPS, G Sensor,Phone Call
Operating System: Android 4.4.4 and Windows 8.1 Bing
Cell Capacity: 8000mAh
Official website:
http://www.teclast.com/zhuanti/X10HD3Gdualos/
Reviews
Videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8gvo9UtgUs (Unboxing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FufrrOXHfeM (Physical comparison to the X98 Air 3G)
Know issues
Play Store is broken. No OTA update to fix it as of yet.
Windows is reading only one of the two battery cells, so only half the battery life is reported in the battery meter.[/QUOTE]