I've become increasingly irritated by something I have found in all WM6 ROMs that I have installed. I saw it in the PEE, EA and now VJs. Once every 5 or 6 calls, I will see the phone number come up on the display (phone is locked). I hit the soft left key to answer. The phone seems to think for a second or so, but never answers the call. The call gets dropped, and I see the missed call icon on the top bar. The same thing happens if instead of hitting the soft left key I hit the green phone key. I have to then unlock the phone, clear the missed call status, and call the person back. It's very annoying.
Does anyone else also see this? Is there a way around it? Or something that needs to be added/deleted?
Help!
Did you update the radio ROM ?
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Did you update the radio ROM ?
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Yes sir. To the latest one found in Nitro's signature.
So it's been a month since I got my HTC Touch pro and all the problems I have with it, I've had with the HTC TYTN II. To list them:
- Volume is too low during conversations, it has to be fairly quiet around to be able to hear the other person (even with the volume turned way up)
- There's a 2-3 ring delay on incoming calls.. which means people hang up before you get a chance to answer.
- Sometimes trying to call a number, the phone will just display the Calling Number screen and you hear no sound at all in the speaker.. then after 10 seconds it will end with 3 beeps.. Like it couldn't get a signal or something, even though there's plenty of signal on the signal gauge. You try again 2-3 times before it works.. REALLY annoying (Never had a phone that did that, other than the TYTN II!)
- Answers calls in pocket. You go for the phone, but the touch screen is on and you answer or hang up (in my case apparently almost always hangs up) while the phone is still in your pocket. Also VERY annoying.
- Alarm or snooze malfunctions. This happens rarely for me, but since I use it everyday as my alarm for waking up, I notice! It's not because I sleep past the alarm. I've been lying awake listening for it to ring... the vibrator works, but no sound is played. This means that I can't trust my phone to wake me up if I'm going to catch a plane or other important stuff. It's very rare, but it happens.. it also did on my TYTN II, except that didn't even vibrate! My guess is windows is busy doing something else .. then doesn't play the sound properly.
- Then there's the slowdowns.. not really a fault, but like windows 95 it can become very slow or unresponsive for a short period for unknown reasons. A phone has to work when you need it... not delay you for 30 secs while it thinks things over. I've had to reset my phone a couple of times this month. (No I didn't run 10 apps at the same time while trying to use TF3D to look at pictures)
- It takes 4 seconds to lock the phone (So that it doesn't also MAKE calls in your pocket) .. is there a way to tweak this? Like only pressing the off-hook button for 1-2 seconds instead?
These problems are the reasons that I'm considering selling my phone to some other unfortunate person. They are BASIC functions that just have to work! I love the HTC touch pro for it's PDA functionality and my Tom Tom maps etc. but I'm really starting to hate it for these basic functionalities that work very poorly!
I know other people have experience the same problems.. couldn't we make a sticky with problems and possible solutions for it? I also really hate that fact that I have to hack my phone in able to make it function properly!
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So it's been a month since I got my HTC Touch pro and all the problems I have with it, I've had with the HTC TYTN II. To list them:
- Volume is too low during conversations, it has to be fairly quiet around to be able to hear the other person (even with the volume turned way up)
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Tweaks enough around
- There's a 2-3 ring delay on incoming calls.. which means people hang up before you get a chance to answer.
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I don't have that problem?
- Sometimes trying to call a number, the phone will just display the Calling Number screen and you hear no sound at all in the speaker.. then after 10 seconds it will end with 3 beeps.. Like it couldn't get a signal or something, even though there's plenty of signal on the signal gauge. You try again 2-3 times before it works.. REALLY annoying (Never had a phone that did that, other than the TYTN II!)
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never had that either
- Answers calls in pocket. You go for the phone, but the touch screen is on and you answer or hang up (in my case apparently almost always hangs up) while the phone is still in your pocket. Also VERY annoying.
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try this solution
- Alarm or snooze malfunctions. This happens rarely for me, but since I use it everyday as my alarm for waking up, I notice! It's not because I sleep past the alarm. I've been lying awake listening for it to ring... the vibrator works, but no sound is played. This means that I can't trust my phone to wake me up if I'm going to catch a plane or other important stuff. It's very rare, but it happens.. it also did on my TYTN II, except that didn't even vibrate! My guess is windows is busy doing something else .. then doesn't play the sound properly.
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Did you try a different alarm already?
- Then there's the slowdowns.. not really a fault, but like windows 95 it can become very slow or unresponsive for a short period for unknown reasons. A phone has to work when you need it... not delay you for 30 secs while it thinks things over. I've had to reset my phone a couple of times this month. (No I didn't run 10 apps at the same time while trying to use TF3D to look at pictures)
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Don't have that problem
- It takes 4 seconds to lock the phone (So that it doesn't also MAKE calls in your pocket) .. is there a way to tweak this? Like only pressing the off-hook button for 1-2 seconds instead?
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Now you mention it, yes, that is annoying... Would love to see a tweak for that as well!!
These problems are the reasons that I'm considering selling my phone to some other unfortunate person. They are BASIC functions that just has to work! I love the HTC touch pro for it's PDA functionality and my Tom Tom maps etc. but I'm really starting to hate it for these basic functionalities that work very poorly!
I know other people have experience the same problems.. couldn't we make a sticky with problems and possible solutions for it? I also really hate that fact that I have to hack my phone in able to make it function properly!
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Have you considerd a custom Rom yet? I am currently running the DCS Rom, and don't have the problems you mention above. It made my TP much more responsive!
A lot of these problems though, are mentioned throughout this forum, and can be solved. Either by ROM updating, or tweaks... What Rom are you running?
I understand completely. I feel differently though. My TP is the best phone ever. The issues I have were seen on my previous devices (HTC devices for the US). The faster processor, increased storage, and TF3D make me happy. Don't get me wrong, I have cussed at this phone, missed inportant business calls, and missed a flight thanks to the alarm. I soft reset 1 - 5 times a day to proactively minimize these issues. But overall, the TP is a huge improvement over my Wing. So long as my new devices are improvements to the one before, I am happy. I can't live with a standard cell phone, and love my Raphael.
joeltje said:
I don't have that problem?
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Try calling your phone from a land line phone.. how long does it take before your cell actually start ringing?
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Did you try a different alarm already?
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Yes, but it happens so rarely I can't say if its the sound. Besides, it's the rooster sound that came with phone. No matter what it should never happen. It happened on my TYTN II too.. So I guess it's probably a windows thing.
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Have you considerd a custom Rom yet? I am currently running the DCS Rom, and don't have the problems you mention above. It made my TP much more responsive!
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Hmm.. I might try that.. but I often see people start having entirely different problems with their phone then (lock ups and strange behaviour). If there is a stable ROM that fixes these issues and doesn't break down hard once every week. I'm all for it!
I'm running the standard ROM that came with the phone. Ver.: 1.90.403.6 DAN (Danish) ROM date 08/23/08, Radio: 1.02.25.19, Protocol: 52.33.25.17U
If I call my cellnr. from the home phone, it starts ringning as quickly as all my other mobile phones... So no, I really don't have that problem, thoughj I did just see another topic from somebody with exactly you problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432415
You might want to follow that.
On the alarm, I have 2 kids, so I don't use an electrical alarm Sorry...
The different ROM may be something you can test at least. It fixed a lot of annoyances for me anyway. Look in the Wiki for different Custom Roms, there are a couple out there, and for me, DCS worked best. You can always go back to original, should you not like the ROM. I'm running DCS now for three days, no resets, and it is still fast....
ssndk said:
- Sometimes trying to call a number, the phone will just display the Calling Number screen and you hear no sound at all in the speaker.. then after 10 seconds it will end with 3 beeps.. Like it couldn't get a signal or something, even though there's plenty of signal on the signal gauge. You try again 2-3 times before it works.. REALLY annoying (Never had a phone that did that, other than the TYTN II!)
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The issue above really annoying. Normally that will cause my TP to go mute and can't hear each other. Have to soft reset. This issue is discuss in another thread here. Since I'm overseas for at the moment, can't go complain to my vendor.
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- It takes 4 seconds to lock the phone (So that it doesn't also MAKE calls in your pocket) .. is there a way to tweak this? Like only pressing the off-hook button for 1-2 seconds instead?
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Using the registry hack for the touch diamond I'm now using the "lock on backlight turned off" fix.. it works, and my phone locks when I press the screen off button. Way less annoying than waiting 4 seconds for it to lock.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\BackLight\AutoDevic eLockEnable from 0 to 1 and everytime your backlight goes off the device is locked
Nice, 1 Question though; What happens if you make a call? The display goes of as well then, will the keyboard then lock as well? Cause that's not handy, to say the least
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Nice, 1 Question though; What happens if you make a call? The display goes of as well then, will the keyboard then lock as well? Cause that's not handy, to say the least
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The touch screen locks, but the keyboard (Off-hook etc.) button doesn't..
So if I'm listning to my voicemail, and need to press "3" for deletion, I can't? Or will it disable after I extract my stylo?
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So if I'm listning to my voicemail, and need to press "3" for deletion, I can't? Or will it disable after I extract my stylo?
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you can extract the stylus but the you have to juggle around with it OR you can press the standby button on top to unlock it. It's a pain I know but the problem is that it is a touch screen so pressing a button to unlock is less worse than without it.
So functionality actually remains as it is now... That's good, I'll give it a try!
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So if I'm listning to my voicemail, and need to press "3" for deletion, I can't? Or will it disable after I extract my stylo?
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It unlocks when the stylus is extracted..
ssndk said:
So it's been a month since I got my HTC Touch pro and all the problems I have with it, I've had with the HTC TYTN II. To list them:
- There's a 2-3 ring delay on incoming calls.. which means people hang up before you get a chance to answer.
I know other people have experience the same problems.. couldn't we make a sticky with problems and possible solutions for it? I also really hate that fact that I have to hack my phone in able to make it function properly!
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Sounds like you are using a ringtone from your microSD card. This will cause a delay. Your ringtones need to be copies to your device and activated by holding the stylus over your selection & hit set as ringtone.
Hope this helps,
Rgs,
J
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The touch screen locks, but the keyboard (Off-hook etc.) button doesn't..
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Try SensorLock. It's a great little utility that unfortunately has stopped working for me. Must be something I poked somewhere. lol
As for the alarm, mine works fine... but I do notice the ringing a couple of times on the sending end before the phone starts to ring. I'd sort of passed that off to a network thing, not a phone thing.
The 3 second ringtone delay is a WM issue. Look at the postings for VAlert in the general hacking section. The only known fix is http://www.tweaks2k2.com/portal/staticpages/index.php?page=20050224182009983
but no one seems to have figured out their registry setting change...
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- Alarm or snooze malfunctions. This happens rarely for me, but since I use it everyday as my alarm for waking up, I notice! It's not because I sleep past the alarm. I've been lying awake listening for it to ring... the vibrator works, but no sound is played. This means that I can't trust my phone to wake me up if I'm going to catch a plane or other important stuff. It's very rare, but it happens.. it also did on my TYTN II, except that didn't even vibrate! My guess is windows is busy doing something else .. then doesn't play the sound properly.
TRY G-Alarm. It works well for me.
Klaxon (sp?) alarm looked cool and would have also been practical, but it would crash - totally unreliable.
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Sounds like you are using a ringtone from your microSD card. This will cause a delay. Your ringtones need to be copies to your device and activated by holding the stylus over your selection & hit set as ringtone.
Hope this helps,
Rgs,
J
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No, in my TPro the delay is exactly the same (oviously using the same mp3 file in memory card or in the device)..i've reduced delay sound installing Diamond tweaks and setting "without delay" in ring tone..then i've erased diamong tweaks because use too much battery now i have only 1 ring with light (and identified call incoming on the screen) and without sound, and BEFORE the second ring my device correctly sound
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The 3 second ringtone delay is a WM issue. Look at the postings for VAlert in the general hacking section. The only known fix is http://www.tweaks2k2.com/portal/staticpages/index.php?page=20050224182009983
but no one seems to have figured out their registry setting change...
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If your referring to this one,
108-Allow users to disable the 3 seconds delay between rings in devices with Windows Mobile Phone Edition
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see the following thread at PPCGeeks.
If your talking about the fact that the NAV wheel starts flashing 5 seconds before the audio starts playing, then it's not the same scenario.
ssndk said:
Using the registry hack for the touch diamond I'm now using the "lock on backlight turned off" fix.. it works, and my phone locks when I press the screen off button. Way less annoying than waiting 4 seconds for it to lock.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\BackLight\AutoDevic eLockEnable from 0 to 1 and everytime your backlight goes off the device is locked
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I have a HTC TouchPro and had the same issue of not wanting to press the long press end key for 5 seconds to lock the phone. I tried the code you gave and unfortunately the phone still does not lock when I push short press the power button to turn off the back light and put th phone in sleep mode. I really want this to work since when I am driving, I think when I go through good and bad coverage areas, the phone will automaticallly wake up about 3 times each way, so if it is not locked, I can accidentally call people while driving.
Hi Everyone -
I have used the HTC touch PRO for about 3 weeks now and I have to say it is FULL of bugs . Can you guys confirm or deny this:
1. If the phone is set to vibrate, it will go back to "RING" after a single call. Meaning if someone calls me once, it will go back to RING. This also happens if the ringer is set to Vibrate and Ring also.
2. When you make a call using the "dial pad", the "dial pad" disappears very quickly and goes to the main screen. Then you have to hit the DIAL button and then KEYPAD to get it back. It is very annoying when you call your bank or an airline where you have to go through a series of promts like entering your ID numbers, pins, etc.
3. The camera seems to come on sometimes by just touching the screen.
4. If you have multiple numbers associated with a contact (home, work, mobile etc), it shows one number when dialed. For example, when I dial my friends HOME number, it dials the home number correctly, but on the display it shows the MOBILE number being dialed.
5. Unable to send a CONTACT's info by SMS directly from the CONTACTS page. It will send a MMS but not a SMS. THis is when someone asks for a phone number of a person and you just want to send it automatically from your phone book.
I am sure there are other bugs also, but the above are the most annoying as hell.
I want to make sure this is with everyone or just my phone!
Thank you
hey,idk how helpful this willbe but it seems like these phones str8 out of the box are having problems...ive read that a hard reset will get rid of some of the unwanted bugs...you may try that
1. Just tested and after call vibrating stayed on.
2. The keypad goes away but not to the home screen. So all I have to do is hit on key, keypad to get back to it.
3. never had that happen.
4. Confirmed. Seems to default to the first number stored maybe??
5. Confirmed. Most likely because it is sending the vcard or something as an attachment???
zalez said:
1. Just tested and after call vibrating stayed on.
2. The keypad goes away but not to the home screen. So all I have to do is hit on key, keypad to get back to it.
3. never had that happen.
4. Confirmed. Seems to default to the first number stored maybe??
5. Confirmed. Most likely because it is sending the vcard or something as an attachment???
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My experience is the same with the Verizon branded TP2.
#5 It sends it as vCard attachement.
I Just open the contact info to edit then copy and past it into SMS.
Returning TP2 tomorrow
Used the TP2 for 3 weeks;
1. Screen clicks when touched, guess the slider hinge is loose;
2. Set vibrate then ring, keeps going back to ring only everytime the phone is powered off and back on, (standby on); this is the mode I use often, not to annoy people in meetings, and not to miss calls;
3. Cant set screen dim time to more than 10seconds, it dims after 10seconds no matter what the settting is;
4. Internet brower lunch from home gets stuck randomly, have to hit end go back to home, then internet again;
5. GPS performance with Sprint Navigation is much worse than Touch; It takes much longer to lock, and it lose GPS often; Maybe a software thing, Google map seems to work fine.
Non of the bugs are serious, but very annoying! The phone is too big, too heavy, too expensive ($349 from Sprint)! Miss the dial pad; The only good thing is the beautiful screen.
Hopefuly WM6.5 upgrade will fix these, but dont want to get stuck with waiting for the upgrade, I've just re-activated my old touch, and returning TP2 tomorrow.
You can add the issue of not being able to keep static IP's assigned to the network adapter for use while in your workplace or business, and then when not in the workplace haveing the ability to use sprints data services. In otherwords everything has to be dynamic. If you want to use static ip's while in range of wifi, you have to clear it out when you leave the wifi spot in order to use regular evdo.
gps is fast and accurate
fast if you disable touch flo and use mobile shell
Another bug
When viewing NFL mobile, after about two minutes into showing something, the phone reboots itself. Quite annoyin'!
arifiano said:
Hi Everyone -
I have used the HTC touch PRO for about 3 weeks now and I have to say it is FULL of bugs . Can you guys confirm or deny this:
1. If the phone is set to vibrate, it will go back to "RING" after a single call. Meaning if someone calls me once, it will go back to RING. This also happens if the ringer is set to Vibrate and Ring also.
2. When you make a call using the "dial pad", the "dial pad" disappears very quickly and goes to the main screen. Then you have to hit the DIAL button and then KEYPAD to get it back. It is very annoying when you call your bank or an airline where you have to go through a series of promts like entering your ID numbers, pins, etc.
3. The camera seems to come on sometimes by just touching the screen.
4. If you have multiple numbers associated with a contact (home, work, mobile etc), it shows one number when dialed. For example, when I dial my friends HOME number, it dials the home number correctly, but on the display it shows the MOBILE number being dialed.
5. Unable to send a CONTACT's info by SMS directly from the CONTACTS page. It will send a MMS but not a SMS. THis is when someone asks for a phone number of a person and you just want to send it automatically from your phone book.
I am sure there are other bugs also, but the above are the most annoying as hell.
I want to make sure this is with everyone or just my phone!
Thank you
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1. I've heard of this happening after soft reset but it doesn't happen on my phone
2.Works perfectly fine on mine, all you do is hit the 'Keypad' button and it should stay up. if you end up at the home screen hit 'phone' and then keypad and you should be good....do you have a dialer skin on it?
3.Never happens for me
4. haven't tried, i don't have any contacts with multiple numbers
5. haven't tried but i usually just copy/paste phone numbers for sms
definitely try hard reset. and if it's got a warranty or anything like that you still have the option to return/exchange it
well speak of the devil my phone started showing some of these symptoms later in the evening and now even worse when i make calls i can hear people talking but they can hear me
a hard reset fixed it but when i restore my backup files it goes back to messing up so maybe it's one of the tweaks i ran?
is there a way to use sprite mobile to only restore contacts/sms? that's all i really need i'll think i'll hold off on the tweaks and just wait for the HSPL unlocker
Hope these problems are all fixed when the HardSPL is released.
As for now, I am holding my breath waiting to see if the gps problem is fixed on a new rom, waiting to buy this phone.
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Hope these problems are all fixed when the HardSPL is released.
As for now, I am holding my breath waiting to see if the gps problem is fixed on a new rom, waiting to buy this phone.
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yeah, the real messed up part is verizon is out of stock with the phone. i went to a verizon store but they couldn't even replace it for me. i think the people over there are retarted cuz i've known it was out of stock but the dudes at the store didnt know and the guy they had me talking to on the phone didn't even know they didn't sell them in stores!
'you'll probably get the imaggio isntead it's the upgrade of your phone'...no stupid i need a keyboard
mine keeps switching from Ring and Vibrate to Ring as well
Hi all I have a touch diamond 2 with the last original 6.5 Windows and I have 2 sounds files. I want use theme like a allarm for sms and email. When i put them in the map sound ...i cant found them in the optios sound. maybe i put them i wrong map. Another question...I love this phone but i hate when this is i stansby and i cant see no lamps or led blinking so i dont know if this is on or off.......maybe there is a fix or... Tanx
If you want to use your own sound:
put the sound(s) to Application Data\Sounds in device memory. and you will have the sounds in the drop off box.
For the LED thingy, I think this is the design they want to. When I hold this phone for the first time, I can't used to the "No Blinking LED" situation when the phone is in standby, now, it's quite ok already...
When Í get an e-mail or sms I do see my green LED blinking. The thing is it does not always make the alarm sound. When I was still on 6.1 I used a fix from HTC official website.