So it's been a month since I got my HTC Touch pro and all the problems I have with it, I've had with the HTC TYTN II. To list them:
- Volume is too low during conversations, it has to be fairly quiet around to be able to hear the other person (even with the volume turned way up)
- There's a 2-3 ring delay on incoming calls.. which means people hang up before you get a chance to answer.
- Sometimes trying to call a number, the phone will just display the Calling Number screen and you hear no sound at all in the speaker.. then after 10 seconds it will end with 3 beeps.. Like it couldn't get a signal or something, even though there's plenty of signal on the signal gauge. You try again 2-3 times before it works.. REALLY annoying (Never had a phone that did that, other than the TYTN II!)
- Answers calls in pocket. You go for the phone, but the touch screen is on and you answer or hang up (in my case apparently almost always hangs up) while the phone is still in your pocket. Also VERY annoying.
- Alarm or snooze malfunctions. This happens rarely for me, but since I use it everyday as my alarm for waking up, I notice! It's not because I sleep past the alarm. I've been lying awake listening for it to ring... the vibrator works, but no sound is played. This means that I can't trust my phone to wake me up if I'm going to catch a plane or other important stuff. It's very rare, but it happens.. it also did on my TYTN II, except that didn't even vibrate! My guess is windows is busy doing something else .. then doesn't play the sound properly.
- Then there's the slowdowns.. not really a fault, but like windows 95 it can become very slow or unresponsive for a short period for unknown reasons. A phone has to work when you need it... not delay you for 30 secs while it thinks things over. I've had to reset my phone a couple of times this month. (No I didn't run 10 apps at the same time while trying to use TF3D to look at pictures)
- It takes 4 seconds to lock the phone (So that it doesn't also MAKE calls in your pocket) .. is there a way to tweak this? Like only pressing the off-hook button for 1-2 seconds instead?
These problems are the reasons that I'm considering selling my phone to some other unfortunate person. They are BASIC functions that just have to work! I love the HTC touch pro for it's PDA functionality and my Tom Tom maps etc. but I'm really starting to hate it for these basic functionalities that work very poorly!
I know other people have experience the same problems.. couldn't we make a sticky with problems and possible solutions for it? I also really hate that fact that I have to hack my phone in able to make it function properly!
ssndk said:
So it's been a month since I got my HTC Touch pro and all the problems I have with it, I've had with the HTC TYTN II. To list them:
- Volume is too low during conversations, it has to be fairly quiet around to be able to hear the other person (even with the volume turned way up)
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Tweaks enough around
- There's a 2-3 ring delay on incoming calls.. which means people hang up before you get a chance to answer.
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I don't have that problem?
- Sometimes trying to call a number, the phone will just display the Calling Number screen and you hear no sound at all in the speaker.. then after 10 seconds it will end with 3 beeps.. Like it couldn't get a signal or something, even though there's plenty of signal on the signal gauge. You try again 2-3 times before it works.. REALLY annoying (Never had a phone that did that, other than the TYTN II!)
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never had that either
- Answers calls in pocket. You go for the phone, but the touch screen is on and you answer or hang up (in my case apparently almost always hangs up) while the phone is still in your pocket. Also VERY annoying.
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try this solution
- Alarm or snooze malfunctions. This happens rarely for me, but since I use it everyday as my alarm for waking up, I notice! It's not because I sleep past the alarm. I've been lying awake listening for it to ring... the vibrator works, but no sound is played. This means that I can't trust my phone to wake me up if I'm going to catch a plane or other important stuff. It's very rare, but it happens.. it also did on my TYTN II, except that didn't even vibrate! My guess is windows is busy doing something else .. then doesn't play the sound properly.
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Did you try a different alarm already?
- Then there's the slowdowns.. not really a fault, but like windows 95 it can become very slow or unresponsive for a short period for unknown reasons. A phone has to work when you need it... not delay you for 30 secs while it thinks things over. I've had to reset my phone a couple of times this month. (No I didn't run 10 apps at the same time while trying to use TF3D to look at pictures)
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Don't have that problem
- It takes 4 seconds to lock the phone (So that it doesn't also MAKE calls in your pocket) .. is there a way to tweak this? Like only pressing the off-hook button for 1-2 seconds instead?
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Now you mention it, yes, that is annoying... Would love to see a tweak for that as well!!
These problems are the reasons that I'm considering selling my phone to some other unfortunate person. They are BASIC functions that just has to work! I love the HTC touch pro for it's PDA functionality and my Tom Tom maps etc. but I'm really starting to hate it for these basic functionalities that work very poorly!
I know other people have experience the same problems.. couldn't we make a sticky with problems and possible solutions for it? I also really hate that fact that I have to hack my phone in able to make it function properly!
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Have you considerd a custom Rom yet? I am currently running the DCS Rom, and don't have the problems you mention above. It made my TP much more responsive!
A lot of these problems though, are mentioned throughout this forum, and can be solved. Either by ROM updating, or tweaks... What Rom are you running?
I understand completely. I feel differently though. My TP is the best phone ever. The issues I have were seen on my previous devices (HTC devices for the US). The faster processor, increased storage, and TF3D make me happy. Don't get me wrong, I have cussed at this phone, missed inportant business calls, and missed a flight thanks to the alarm. I soft reset 1 - 5 times a day to proactively minimize these issues. But overall, the TP is a huge improvement over my Wing. So long as my new devices are improvements to the one before, I am happy. I can't live with a standard cell phone, and love my Raphael.
joeltje said:
I don't have that problem?
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Try calling your phone from a land line phone.. how long does it take before your cell actually start ringing?
joeltje said:
Did you try a different alarm already?
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Yes, but it happens so rarely I can't say if its the sound. Besides, it's the rooster sound that came with phone. No matter what it should never happen. It happened on my TYTN II too.. So I guess it's probably a windows thing.
joeltje said:
Have you considerd a custom Rom yet? I am currently running the DCS Rom, and don't have the problems you mention above. It made my TP much more responsive!
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Hmm.. I might try that.. but I often see people start having entirely different problems with their phone then (lock ups and strange behaviour). If there is a stable ROM that fixes these issues and doesn't break down hard once every week. I'm all for it!
I'm running the standard ROM that came with the phone. Ver.: 1.90.403.6 DAN (Danish) ROM date 08/23/08, Radio: 1.02.25.19, Protocol: 52.33.25.17U
If I call my cellnr. from the home phone, it starts ringning as quickly as all my other mobile phones... So no, I really don't have that problem, thoughj I did just see another topic from somebody with exactly you problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432415
You might want to follow that.
On the alarm, I have 2 kids, so I don't use an electrical alarm Sorry...
The different ROM may be something you can test at least. It fixed a lot of annoyances for me anyway. Look in the Wiki for different Custom Roms, there are a couple out there, and for me, DCS worked best. You can always go back to original, should you not like the ROM. I'm running DCS now for three days, no resets, and it is still fast....
ssndk said:
- Sometimes trying to call a number, the phone will just display the Calling Number screen and you hear no sound at all in the speaker.. then after 10 seconds it will end with 3 beeps.. Like it couldn't get a signal or something, even though there's plenty of signal on the signal gauge. You try again 2-3 times before it works.. REALLY annoying (Never had a phone that did that, other than the TYTN II!)
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The issue above really annoying. Normally that will cause my TP to go mute and can't hear each other. Have to soft reset. This issue is discuss in another thread here. Since I'm overseas for at the moment, can't go complain to my vendor.
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- It takes 4 seconds to lock the phone (So that it doesn't also MAKE calls in your pocket) .. is there a way to tweak this? Like only pressing the off-hook button for 1-2 seconds instead?
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Using the registry hack for the touch diamond I'm now using the "lock on backlight turned off" fix.. it works, and my phone locks when I press the screen off button. Way less annoying than waiting 4 seconds for it to lock.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\BackLight\AutoDevic eLockEnable from 0 to 1 and everytime your backlight goes off the device is locked
Nice, 1 Question though; What happens if you make a call? The display goes of as well then, will the keyboard then lock as well? Cause that's not handy, to say the least
joeltje said:
Nice, 1 Question though; What happens if you make a call? The display goes of as well then, will the keyboard then lock as well? Cause that's not handy, to say the least
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The touch screen locks, but the keyboard (Off-hook etc.) button doesn't..
So if I'm listning to my voicemail, and need to press "3" for deletion, I can't? Or will it disable after I extract my stylo?
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So if I'm listning to my voicemail, and need to press "3" for deletion, I can't? Or will it disable after I extract my stylo?
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you can extract the stylus but the you have to juggle around with it OR you can press the standby button on top to unlock it. It's a pain I know but the problem is that it is a touch screen so pressing a button to unlock is less worse than without it.
So functionality actually remains as it is now... That's good, I'll give it a try!
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So if I'm listning to my voicemail, and need to press "3" for deletion, I can't? Or will it disable after I extract my stylo?
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It unlocks when the stylus is extracted..
ssndk said:
So it's been a month since I got my HTC Touch pro and all the problems I have with it, I've had with the HTC TYTN II. To list them:
- There's a 2-3 ring delay on incoming calls.. which means people hang up before you get a chance to answer.
I know other people have experience the same problems.. couldn't we make a sticky with problems and possible solutions for it? I also really hate that fact that I have to hack my phone in able to make it function properly!
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Sounds like you are using a ringtone from your microSD card. This will cause a delay. Your ringtones need to be copies to your device and activated by holding the stylus over your selection & hit set as ringtone.
Hope this helps,
Rgs,
J
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The touch screen locks, but the keyboard (Off-hook etc.) button doesn't..
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Try SensorLock. It's a great little utility that unfortunately has stopped working for me. Must be something I poked somewhere. lol
As for the alarm, mine works fine... but I do notice the ringing a couple of times on the sending end before the phone starts to ring. I'd sort of passed that off to a network thing, not a phone thing.
The 3 second ringtone delay is a WM issue. Look at the postings for VAlert in the general hacking section. The only known fix is http://www.tweaks2k2.com/portal/staticpages/index.php?page=20050224182009983
but no one seems to have figured out their registry setting change...
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- Alarm or snooze malfunctions. This happens rarely for me, but since I use it everyday as my alarm for waking up, I notice! It's not because I sleep past the alarm. I've been lying awake listening for it to ring... the vibrator works, but no sound is played. This means that I can't trust my phone to wake me up if I'm going to catch a plane or other important stuff. It's very rare, but it happens.. it also did on my TYTN II, except that didn't even vibrate! My guess is windows is busy doing something else .. then doesn't play the sound properly.
TRY G-Alarm. It works well for me.
Klaxon (sp?) alarm looked cool and would have also been practical, but it would crash - totally unreliable.
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Sounds like you are using a ringtone from your microSD card. This will cause a delay. Your ringtones need to be copies to your device and activated by holding the stylus over your selection & hit set as ringtone.
Hope this helps,
Rgs,
J
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No, in my TPro the delay is exactly the same (oviously using the same mp3 file in memory card or in the device)..i've reduced delay sound installing Diamond tweaks and setting "without delay" in ring tone..then i've erased diamong tweaks because use too much battery now i have only 1 ring with light (and identified call incoming on the screen) and without sound, and BEFORE the second ring my device correctly sound
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The 3 second ringtone delay is a WM issue. Look at the postings for VAlert in the general hacking section. The only known fix is http://www.tweaks2k2.com/portal/staticpages/index.php?page=20050224182009983
but no one seems to have figured out their registry setting change...
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If your referring to this one,
108-Allow users to disable the 3 seconds delay between rings in devices with Windows Mobile Phone Edition
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see the following thread at PPCGeeks.
If your talking about the fact that the NAV wheel starts flashing 5 seconds before the audio starts playing, then it's not the same scenario.
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Using the registry hack for the touch diamond I'm now using the "lock on backlight turned off" fix.. it works, and my phone locks when I press the screen off button. Way less annoying than waiting 4 seconds for it to lock.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\BackLight\AutoDevic eLockEnable from 0 to 1 and everytime your backlight goes off the device is locked
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I have a HTC TouchPro and had the same issue of not wanting to press the long press end key for 5 seconds to lock the phone. I tried the code you gave and unfortunately the phone still does not lock when I push short press the power button to turn off the back light and put th phone in sleep mode. I really want this to work since when I am driving, I think when I go through good and bad coverage areas, the phone will automaticallly wake up about 3 times each way, so if it is not locked, I can accidentally call people while driving.
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So I know this is a known bug from what other threads have said. In my case I don't even need to use the slider, but guranteed my phone sounds will all stop working at least once a day, even the vibrate does not work.
Soft reset solves the problem till the next time.
Should I consider reporting and getting my unit changed ?
I am testing one thing right now, normally I have my pushmail running 24x7, I think this might be the cause somehow. It's not direct push, its Oracle Pushmail plugin with works with pocket outlook.
Is this normal ?
Voicecommand is the problem, disable it and you will never have that problem again!
ok I will try this out and get back
that did not work, i disabled and left push email running overnight and sure enough in the morning the sounds no longer worked.
Tonight I will turn push mail off and see what happens I am pretty sure the sound will work in this case.
i had this issue earlier this week and i've seen numerous threads about other having the same issue. NO true, duplicated scenario or solution has been found (or i haven't seen one). After several soft resets i had to do a hard reset and reinstall everything. That was the only way i got the sound back.
so in your case are you saying a soft reset did not bring the sound back ?
in my case soft reset always brings the sound back.
I have kept my email turned off and so far no problems with the sound, I think mine has got something to do with oracle pusmail plugin, which is a real pain as I need that.
Unless this occurs in a clean device [no installed 3rd party apps] it might be a software issue. Maybe you should try and weed out the offensive app/s?
So I know which app causes it, for me its the oracle pushmail plugin for outlook that we get from work, but I can't really remove this, after all this is the reason I have this device :-(
When you lose the sound on your device does the camera also die at the same time?
Will have to check that out next time. I have had the camera go a few times, needed to soft reset. Next time the sound goes I will check the camera and report back.
Camera was ok when the sound went.
Are you SURE you have voicecommand COMPLETELY disabled? (NO checkmarks on NO options AND!!!! NO SHORTCUT TO VOICECOMMAND ON ANY BUTTON)?
Regards,
Ingo
Will have to try again, today I noticed the voice command was enabled, very weird I never set it on.
Will see how it goes this time.
OF COURSE!
The sound goes away.... it also came back once, without softresetting. I am not sure the VC is directly connected to this... I spent a good amount of $$$ to buy this phone for my wife, on the wave that she loved the 650... but what a bad idea!! Is something going to be done in order to fix all these bugs? By the way, my 750 is unlocked, but I guess it doesn't make any difference, or does it? Thank you guys, Paul.
If I checked TTY/TTN in phone options, all phone sound ceased. Uncheck and its back. Nothing in Help about this feature - what is it?
Chris
the innocent Treo...the silence of the Treo...
Waht is it? It is a shame!!! After almost one year that this model is out, still no fix for the problem! I spent $600.00 for this phone...it is really a shame.
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.. I spent a good amount of $$$ to buy this phone for my wife, on the wave that she loved the 650... but what a bad idea!!
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Funny - same here. She loved her TX, I bought her the 750.
Ringer gone. Comment "Isn't ringing a basic feature of a phone honey?"
Just had to hard-reset, all others failed.
Not nice.
Same story here. She loved the 650, it got to the end of its life, so I bought her the new 750. Even worse, it doesn't even vibrate for her....lol...
Silent 750
Seems that a lot bought the 750 for the wife.
Even more reason to get the sound issue fixed
Any news yet on this - any word from Palm?
Every day i have to reboot my phone, even when i receive a call the phone don't vibrate.
Is there any mortscript that screen on screen off the phone when you receive a screen ?
I am using Dutty's 6.1 hybrid Rom. But a major problem is with the vibration. I have selected Vibrate and ring and then the phone vibrates continiously with the ringtone. When it was with the Stock rom the phone didn't vibrate constantly. This is eating a lots of battery ...Pls pls find some way to STOP this.
BTW- Pls don't say that i have to select vibrate then ring option.
When you have it set to vibrate and ring please look at and post the contents of the following registry key:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0
list all values and data
thx
Also make sure you understand the expected behavior:
Vibrate AND ring will mean it will play the ringtone and vibrate all through the ring tone.
Vibrate THEN ring will mean it will vibrate once for a few seconds then play the ringtone.
Which one have you selected and explain what you think it is doing that is not normal....
I think he may be talking about its a constant vibrate rather than a pulsing vibrate, mine does the same thing. I'll get those values here in a minute.
My kaiser sometimes won't stop vibrating after receiving an email(not on sms).
This started to happen after installing no thrills. When i press the power button until the dialog to shutdown appears, and press no the vibrations stop. The only real annoyance is when there is an email in the middle of the night.
ithehappy said:
I am using Dutty's 6.1 hybrid Rom. But a major problem is with the vibration. I have selected Vibrate and ring and then the phone vibrates continiously with the ringtone. When it was with the Stock rom the phone didn't vibrate constantly. This is eating a lots of battery ...Pls pls find some way to STOP this.
BTW- Pls don't say that i have to select vibrate then ring option.
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Hi,
Maybe this can help:
check reg: HCU - ControlPanel - sounds - RingTone0 - Script
a = activate
V = Vibrate
P = play sound
w= wait
r= repeat
maybe you have something like: avr
You should have something like: av2pw2r
This way you tell the device to activate, then vibrate, then play ringtone, then wait for 2 seconds, the repeat the instruction...
cheers
liquidfork said:
I think he may be talking about its a constant vibrate rather than a pulsing vibrate, mine does the same thing. I'll get those values here in a minute.
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Well let me tell you something...If you can figure out what is causing it and make it an option, I think HTC will get a whole new fan base of twenty something women!!!
I can see the ad now.... "Hey Ladies, HTC Tilt, not only looks good, but feels great in your pocket!!!!!"
ryncppr said:
Well let me tell you something...If you can figure out what is causing it and make it an option, I think HTC will get a whole new fan base of twenty something women!!!
I can see the ad now.... "Hey Ladies, HTC Tilt, not only looks good, but feels great in your pocket!!!!!"
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LOL
My script shows av0pw3r.
defp said:
My kaiser sometimes won't stop vibrating after receiving an email(not on sms).
This started to happen after installing no thrills. When i press the power button until the dialog to shutdown appears, and press no the vibrations stop. The only real annoyance is when there is an email in the middle of the night.
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I get this too, but it doesn't happen with every email. I find just hitting the start button stops it, but if I'm not near the phone, it's really annoying and drains the battery.
I'm using Dutty's 19209 rom. Any ideas?
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My script shows av0pw3r.
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That means:
Vibrate(v) continuously(0) and play ringtone(p) for 3 seconds (w3) then repeat(r).
If you don't want continuous vibration, use something like:
av3pw3r
Vibrate(v) 3 seconds (3) and play ringtone(p) for 5 seconds (w5) then repeat(r).
well then....seems as if i have passed on my little problem to you fine people. i've been complain of this for months now. I have hunted dutty down for many hours to fix this but no luck. from what i can tell the issue has to do with sound.
if you notice it only happens when the phone is promoted to play sound...phone call....text...or email. Sometimes (depending on the radio) if you let it sit for a few seconds (we're talking 40 seconds or so) you'll notice the last half secants of the sound will play, then the vibration will stop. Other times or most of the time, the last bit of the sound does not play, so the phone continues to vibrate.
to tell the truth i've been way to lazy to find out what it is that stops he last bit of sound from playing, but trust me when i tell youz...thats the issue.
my quick fix is to FORCE it to play sound. How? just hit the red phone button. That little beep it makes is all you need. once you hit the end button the vibrating is done. it hasn't happen too many times with the newer builds...but it still happens. its a bug i just accepted.
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well then....seems as if i have passed on my little problem to you fine people. i've been complain of this for months now. I have hunted dutty down for many hours to fix this but no luck. from what i can tell the issue has to do with sound.
if you notice it only happens when the phone is promoted to play sound...phone call....text...or email. Sometimes (depending on the radio) if you let it sit for a few seconds (we're talking 40 seconds or so) you'll notice the last half secants of the sound will play, then the vibration will stop. Other times or most of the time, the last bit of the sound does not play, so the phone continues to vibrate.
to tell the truth i've been way to lazy to find out what it is that stops he last bit of sound from playing, but trust me when i tell youz...thats the issue.
my quick fix is to FORCE it to play sound. How? just hit the red phone button. That little beep it makes is all you need. once you hit the end button the vibrating is done. it hasn't happen too many times with the newer builds...but it still happens. its a bug i just accepted.
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Thank goodness I'm not alone! I've been having this problem on & off for the last 3 months!. And yes your right rzanology its almost like the phone turns off before the end of the alert which trips it out....
dont worry. i wish this bull sht on all of you! and i am confident you will all run into it sometime
but really...it has been alot better with the new builds. im about to call up att and tell them my phone keeps freezing and its affecting business lol...see if they will send me a brand new one.
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dont worry. i wish this bull sht on all of you! and i am confident you will all run into it sometime
but really...it has been alot better with the new builds. im about to call up att and tell them my phone keeps freezing and its affecting business lol...see if they will send me a brand new one.
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You sure you GF didn't purposely sabotage you device...buzzzzzzz, ohh baby! ;Dirty_Old_Man_Smiley)
this bug can be remove by the rom builder. so i am requesting mr.dutty to solve this problem. hope you understood what we are saying. we just need pulse vibration rather than the constant vibration like the original htc rom.
Thanks.
Solved
ithehappy said:
this bug can be remove by the rom builder. so i am requesting mr.dutty to solve this problem. hope you understood what we are saying. we just need pulse vibration rather than the constant vibration like the original htc rom.
Thanks.
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Hi,
Did the solution proposed in post #10 work?
Rafael K said:
Hi,
Did the solution proposed in post #10 work?
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Sorry buddy i don't want to go to reg editor for a simple thing.
Simple straight answer - much to ask for?
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Sorry buddy i don't want to go to reg editor for a simple thing.
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If you haven't applied the reg hack, the question clearly was not directed to you. So let me put that again: Can someone who applied the reg hack in post #10 and is not trying to play the smart### confirm to me if it works on his/her device?
In the meantime: I have tried and put av1pw3r (meaning, according to post #10, that the vibration would last 1 second). I sofreset immediately after and confirmed that the hack sticked.
But got the continuous vibration at least once after that. I'm on Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700 with the cube.
I have learnt from experience that I could make the vibration stop if I started a call...
I had this problem when I flashed a ROM and kept the older radio to see how it would work. When I updated the radio it went away. Try changing radios it might work for you.
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I had this problem when I flashed a ROM and kept the older radio to see how it would work. When I updated the radio it went away. Try changing radios it might work for you.
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Hm, nice idea, will try it out
Apologies if this question has been asked and answered before, but if so, could someone please redirect me. This is my first time on this forum. I've had my HTC Touch Pro (Raphael) for a couple of months now, and cannot get round the problem that whenever I receive a call, I somehow manage to cut it off before I can get the phone out of my pocket. I have tried several different cases (the current one opens like a book, so doesn't press any of the buttons), but something happens in the process of removing the phone from my pocket, however gently and swiftly I try to do it, which means that all I get is a "missed call" message, even after only one ring. If the phone is on a flat surface, it will ring for a long time, so it's not that setting. This is SO frustrating, especially when you try to see who called you, and it just comes up with "unknown caller".... it's also costing me a lot of money having to phone people back when I do know who they are. Please help somebody. I really like my little phone, but it may well end up being thrown out of a window at this rate! Thank you!
Check out this utility here on XDA. Works great. Unlock the phone by rolling it over. It uses the gravity sensor.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422871
Many thanks for that. We've installed this thread, although I'm not really clear about what it does. It seems I can now lock and unlock the phone by turning it clockwise and counterclockwise respectively along its axis (in addition to the long press, which is what I usually use to lock the phone).
I tried answering one call whilst it was locked, but couldn't free it up to press the "answer" key until I had turned it several times. Fortunately, the caller was quite patient! Is this just a technique I have to get used to, and will it mean that I get a chance to answer calls before the connection is severed? Sorry to sound so thick, but this is all very new to me.
Sarahah said:
Many thanks for that. We've installed this thread, although I'm not really clear about what it does. It seems I can now lock and unlock the phone by turning it clockwise and counterclockwise respectively along its axis (in addition to the long press, which is what I usually use to lock the phone).
I tried answering one call whilst it was locked, but couldn't free it up to press the "answer" key until I had turned it several times. Fortunately, the caller was quite patient! Is this just a technique I have to get used to, and will it mean that I get a chance to answer calls before the connection is severed? Sorry to sound so thick, but this is all very new to me.
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Go to the settings menu and edit your SensorLock preferences to lock the screen only on an incoming call thus leaving the buttons unlocked.
Maybe the "face down mute" is happening to your calls? Try disabling it.
Um..... how?
answer keys disabler
You the thread below, it disables the onscreen answer buttons while ringing. Helps me getting the phone outta my pocket when ringing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425650
Ooooh. Thank you. Sounds like just what I need ... watch this space!
if u want to thrown your htc trough windows, how about if u thrown it to my window bro.
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Check out this utility here on XDA. Works great. Unlock the phone by rolling it over. It uses the gravity sensor.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422871
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Gravity sensor... I ever seen this technology on nokia phone. but until now I'm still amazed by this technology. how this sensor works..
sorry 4 my english cause I'm from asia
Ah Dedy - if I win the lottery I shall come and throw a brand new Touch Pro through your window, I promise! I'm afraid that I'm having far too much fun with this one (despite the problems in my pocket) to part with it just yet though. Hope you have a great Christmas, and maybe Santa will bring you one, you never know!
"I CAN'T GET TO MY PHONE BEFORE IT GOES TO VOICEMAIL!" Sound familiar?
This thread is to discuss and discover/provide work-arounds (and potentally solutions) for the lag time between the initial ring from a caller and the incoming notifications on the android phone. Since there are other ways to make it possible to answer a call before it gets forwarded, other perspectives/ideas/questions/discussion are welcome here as well.
(Since I started the griping here I figure I better follow up.)
After a day or so of being opened, there are already several things we can do to help our phones ring faster posted in this thread. If something is confusing to you, please ask. If you click on the username of a post, you have the option to send a personal message. Unless you are darn sure other people have your question, please use this option. If it turns out your question would better suit this or any thread, you can paste your PM into the thread at any time.
I have to say this so I can rail on people: no matter how many Opening Posts say READ, READ, READ, the people who consistently don't read the thread haven't read the Opening Post, either. Don't be one of those people. The rest of us resent you for cluttering the thread, consequently creating even more clutter because there's too much crap for other people to read. We think you are being ignorant and selfish. This entire forum is public information; try to keep in mind your potential future boss might be checking this out to see how useful you might be in their workplace. So this, though probably not read by its intended audience, reserves for me the right to be even b****ier
In case anybody is inclined to test it, I already discovered that the phone doesn't ring when it's powered down....
The phone Prioritizer, combined with using ogg format, seems to do the best or me: I can't find it anywhere else. If I've posted this wrongly, please holler.
There was discussion going into the cupcake build about the latency increasing. I can't speculate on the cause of the latency, but it seems to have been going from the first OEM builds.
Delay in phone ring
Delayed phone ring (and even more delayed screen activation and caller ID) on incoming calls. Speaking for myself, callers hear a couple of rings before my ringtone starts to play. And there is another couple of seconds of delay beyond that before the screen lights up and the caller ID comes on.
I have been having this problem for the past, oh, ten or twenty updates. I have tried MANY things to fix it. If you hadn't already said that you always reinstall the radio when you flash, I was going to try that next in my quest for a solution. This ringtone delay problem is currently my number one irritation with my G1, and is at the TOP of my list of issues that I hope Cyanogen will address and conquer.
I have tried "renice -20" on the phone program, with no improvement. I have tried moving ringtones2SD from fat32, with no improvement. I have tried reformating all my custom ringtones as OGG, with no improvement. I have tried installing and uninstalling a variety of programs, with no improvement.
I am certain that Janis and I are not the only people with this problem. I have seen it mentioned by a lot of people in a variety of threads. I am glad to see a specific thread about this particular topicl If anyone has figured out a solution, please speak up. If no one has, perhaps reports from enough people will serve to convince developers to look into it more deeply. Anyone else have feedback?
I myself am curious to kno if there is any way to work on this. I have been a happy Rom switcher and each Rom has always given me 2 ring delays. The way I worked mine to get close to 1 ring is to constantly use a task killing APK, which I may add is tedious, and making sure I'm clocked 245min 584max
After I moved my ringtones from sdcard/audio/ringtones to sdcard/media/audio/ringtones a prescribed by Cyanogen when he originally took all the ringtones out, I had to re-pick my ringtone, as I would expect.
The odd thing is I also have to do it when I add (a) ringtone(s) to the folder or delete one or more. Can anyone shed any light for me on how the system/phone app references ringtones? Why would it lose a ringtone to reference just becuase I added one to the folder it's in?
How to test, or one way to do it
I use the home phone or skype, that way I can hear how many rings are actually happening for myself, count actual seconds (ear to the phone, eye on the clock), and I can see what order things happen. No one else,except you guys, has to bear with my hare-brained methods, either.
The last time I tested, the ring actually started before the caller ID popped up, but that was a first for me. Nothing happened until about the end of the second ring from the home phone.
Now I'm running Compcache 32mb, Linux partition swap 128mb, CPU 528/245.
Mines takes about a good 2 to 3 rings on the other side before my phones starts to even vibrate. Itfirst vibrates and then plays the ringtone.
Anyone remember before cupcake, when you got a call, even the call button wouldn't accept the call. Thankfully that's fixed but this still hasn't been fixed.
Mines takes about a good 2 to 3 rings on the other side before my phones starts to even vibrate. Itfirst vibrates and then plays the ringtone.
Anyone remember before cupcake, when you got a call, even the call button wouldn't accept the call. Thankfully that's fixed but this still hasn't been fixed.
I don't think you will get rid of the 2 rings on the other end before the phone rings. That is probably just the network finding your phone. However, I have had issues with my phone vibrating 2 or 3 times before the ringtone would start playing. I turned off vibrate and it helped. Then I turned it back on and disabled Missed Call. Now there is barely one vibrate before the ringtone starts playing. I'm turning off Missed call until they have an update for it.
I also found that the battery status widget causes a huge delay if you have it set to update as soon as it changes. It checks everytime the phone comes on and that slows things way down. I set it to update every 60 seconds and it still had some delay but not as much.
bout time
glad 2 see its not just me, i almost missed out on a job cause my phone will 'pause' so long it goes to voice mail b4 i can answer. seems like the issue comes and goes, but when its bad, its horrible, 1st it will vibrate for 2-5 sec b4 it rings , then its about 3 sec b4 the id info displays and when im lucky the call button wont react for like 4 or 5 pushes. sum times the phone app force closes, which means 15-30 sec wait while it reacquires the network and if it force closes the call doesnt show up in the call log.
iv had this issue with all the rom's and yes i reload the radio about 2 times a week, but even the stock 1.5 gives me the same issue
ok enough venting, any dev's that have might have an alpha or beta fix im willing to test!
SamCookD405 said:
glad 2 see its not just me, i almost missed out on a job cause my phone will 'pause' so long it goes to voice mail b4 i can answer. seems like the issue comes and goes, but when its bad, its horrible, 1st it will vibrate for 2-5 sec b4 it rings , then its about 3 sec b4 the id info displays and when im lucky the call button wont react for like 4 or 5 pushes. sum times the phone app force closes, which means 15-30 sec wait while it reacquires the network and if it force closes the call doesnt show up in the call log.
iv had this issue with all the rom's and yes i reload the radio about 2 times a week, but even the stock 1.5 gives me the same issue
ok enough venting, any dev's that have might have an alpha or beta fix im willing to test!
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This isn't a ROM problem, it is a phone resources problem. There is something dragging your phone down. It might be different for each one of us having issues.
Ditching userinint.sh
I rm'ed user.conf and userinit.sh to use Cyanogen's default compcache and default CPU scaling. I re-downloaded Swapper and set up to use my 128mb (overkill) linux partition.
I got lights & vibrate at the end of the first ring, I got caller ID and ring just about halfway into the second ring.
Using the attached user.conf I didn't get ring or caller ID until the end of the second ring, sometimes after.
So I installed missed call (donation) and maxed it out. No change. Still getting first response at the end of the first ring, and ring and caller ID about 1/2 way into the second ring.
Maxed out my CPU at 528/528 with SetCPU. Got about .1 of a second advance. It starts to ring and gave me caller ID about 1/4-1/3 of the way into the second ring. Hard to tell, but a bit earlier than 1/2. The second and third time I tried it, it wasn't as fast. Caller ID came up just barely into the 2nd ring, but ring didn't start until the end.
I think the first ring is network time. For the duration of it, I'm guessing, the call isn't at my G1 yet. This sucks.
I think the phone app is set to vibrate and light the phone first, and leaves time for this to happen. It may be because it's the fastest way to alert the user, since looking for ringtone, handling it and sending it can (doesn't always) take some time, it just uses the reliable method and then triggers the less reliable, already slower ring process.
So maybe Cyanogen, or anyone who's familiar with it, can see if this ring vs. vibrate lag can be eliminated. I'd rather have the phone look for a ring first.
But, if you need to get to calls that quickly, set it to vibrate for now?
I downloaded the ogg ring package from the custom userinit thread. Trying that next.
This doesn't contribute anything to the thread at all (except maybe encouragement) but I'm glad someone is bringing this annoying "feature" up for public discussion.
I keep myself updated with CM and kspec oreo as a theme. As it is right now, I get one ring and the call goes to voicemail. The caller ID display actually lights up after the call has been forwarded. Hope the culprit (if there is just one) is found soon.
There has been a parameter on some of my previous phones called slot index. It was available through a keypad menu, it set how often the phone polled the tower. It sped up the ring responce dramatically.
Tried the ogg files, woohoo!
I've got my CPU set to 528/384 with SetCPU, Linux partition swap 128mb with Swapper (I can set them on the fly without rebooting), and used the ogg files in media/audio/ringtones, and I get ring and caller ID at or before the beginning of the second ring, a split second after the vibrate started. I tried messing with CPU speeds, and it does seem to make a difference as to when the ring actually sounds. I'd say about 1/2 a ring between 245 idle and 528 idle with 528 max for both.
I also have my frequency scaling at 16. So I think that means if 16% of my CPU power is being used, it hops it up from min to max. OK, maybe not 16%, I don't know how the numbers translate, but 16 is low, so I'm running at 528 when a squirrel farts outside.
I have BatteryLife and Missed Call enabled.
So there's the pause after the first ring to deal with, but I really don't think it's the phone after this. maybe we need to join forces and barrage T-mobile with complaints. I mean, why have the ringing on the calling end start if the network isn't connected?
Well, at least we won't ever have to worry about appearing too desperate.
2 or 3 bars, so my signal isn't that great. I'm in the suburbs (not that I love it, but it's where I am).
I'd be very curious to find out if others who have their CPUs running high and are using ogg files are getting a different response. I'm also going to try it in different locations.
I am going to suggest to Cyanogen to include the ogg fles as part of his add-on collection.
Face of Ring
I think I may uninstall this, even though I love it. It bumped the ring to after the caller ID. Caller ID still popped up during the pause after the first ring, but the ring and vibrate didn't happen until mid 2nd ring.
(I'm using rings to measure because 1. it's easier 2. the rings/pauses are shorter than a second 3. in large part it's the caller experience we're concerned about. I don't have a stellar chronometer handy, either.)
Well, thanks for starting this thread, Janis. It's a common complaint across all builds. I've grudgingly resorted to calling my phone after every reboot, just to try to keep the ringtone and I'm guessing Phone.apk?? in memory for as long as it will stay in there. That definitely helps for awhile. I know we're trying to make these phones more into computers, but they're still phones and as such calling and communications should be the main priority. I've converted to .ogg, however they are larger files than the .mp3's I converted from. Maybe I should have used a smaller bitrate. Anyhow, it doesn't seem to make much of a difference. I've tried placing them in /sdcard/media/audio/* and /system/sd/media/audio/*. Does not seem to make much of a difference.
I want a hardware hack to increase the RAM...I hate the trade off we're facing. Losing physical keyboard to obtain greater memory. Or make a "Dream plus" with more RAM. I'd even be happy with just a slight increase in internal storage or none at all and more RAM. The devs here have done wonders with the hardware provided, and the implementation of apps to sd has really made this seemingly poor thought out device (in areas), one of the best. I remember, before I was brave enough to attempt apps to sd, having to decide which app to uninstall, just to make room for one I might want more. Seems like ages ago. While I'm reminiscing, I'd like to give a retro shout-out to Lucid and MarcusMaximus who were pioneers in this area and others.
Sorry, about the tangent...but we've made great strides on the computer end of this device...let's regress, so to speak, and make the phone the primary function, hopefully without backsliding on progress we've made on our phones as a mobile computing device.
EDIT: I've also uninstalled "AutoLock" for this reason, because I'd read somewhere that this may be the culprit...I may have seen positive results, or possibly just placebo.
I have the app "Caller Lookup" installed and have noticed tha that app comes up before caller id and or the ringtone. Its there after 1 or 2 vibrate pulses.
make sure T-mobile, or whomever, has your time-before-forwarding maxed
My poor 74-year-old mom was having a heckuva time getting to her phone in time. As per the instructions from a Tmobile service rep, we punched a # and some digits and got a 65 second ring time. This was a year ago or so. I was told that same week that if my OS on my WinMo phone couldn't do it, there was no way they could (there's a way to set it in WinMo), which was BS.
I know it takes network time/space/bandwidth to let it ring, and it's not paid time. I wonder, not to be a rabble rouser (heh), if we kept calling them, maybe hundreds of us if we could get it going, and made them spend more money on customer service than that bandwidth, if they'd bump that.
Anyone?
I paid attention that lately it took several seconds, I think more than 5, to wake up on incoming call. It means that i can here the ringtone of incoming call, but screen is off and some times even if the screen is on it takes up to 3 seconds to the phone app to appear with a possibility to answer or reject the call. Does it happen only for me?
so far i would say yes, cause i never faced that strange behavior on any of my Xperia's
DanielMode said:
so far i would say yes, cause i never faced that strange behavior on any of my Xperia's
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Thank you. For some reason right now the time of the appiriance on screen became less than 3 seconds, but still looks like some delay... Have no idea how that happened...
I Had the same Problem with my old Xperia 5II. I have tried New sim card, sd card, factory reset nothing was working. I have changed the Phone with a New one and Had no more problems with this.
But this Was Not the only Thing on my Xperia 5II. If i become an incoming call 2 or 3 times in short time my 5II restart completly and If i taked a call i dont See for a long time the call screen.
I Hope You Can understand me, because my English ist Not the yellow from the egg
Edit: i think only change the Phone Can help you
Rather late reply, but I'm just a new user of the device. Yes I have the same issue. Call comes, but screen remains black. Takes way too much time to allow me to answer the call.
Don't you face the same issue when you try to unlock it/wake it up? It takes a lot of time for the screen to wake up, even if I try to push the power button multiple times. Fingerprint does not get recognized during this time either, no vibrations at all.