Windows media runtime mobile?/native arm(?) wav format? - General Questions and Answers

Hello. I have managed to somehow damage the setup of WMP in my device and am quite happy with it - it wont fight with better players when using bluetooth dongle's HWbuttons. It is dead for good
The problem is also mp3 ringtones wont sound anymore ("ringtone is corrupt bla bla...") so I have converted them to wav but it seems that loading wavs in the call state is aggravated - the sound is sometimes a bit choppy.
So I have thought of two solutions and haven't reached any of them yet:
1) to get a WM runtime for CE but is there any?
2) find out what is the most native wav bitrate (8/16), sample rate(11kHz-44kHz) and number of channels (1/2) for the chipset - does anybody know?
Thanks for reading

one would think that hardreset would fix your problem
about the best wave setups then it really comes down to what the pretty small speaker unit can produce
of cause it would not do stereo being only 1 tiny speaker
16bit would not be notiable on such a small speaker I think
and landline phones used to use a samplerate of only 3Khz and their speakers was better then new cellphone speakers
I would make various versions of the wav and compare if I could hear any difference

Rudegar said:
one would think that hardreset would fix your problem
about the best wave setups then it really comes down to what the pretty small speaker unit can produce
of cause it would not do stereo being only 1 tiny speaker
16bit would not be notiable on such a small speaker I think
and landline phones used to use a samplerate of only 3Khz and their speakers was better then new cellphone speakers
I would make various versions of the wav and compare if I could hear any difference
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Thank you for your answer.
I am not after the sound quality. And hard reset is not needed as the only circumstance that would lead there is that media player is not working but I am happy that it is crippled. So if there is not any runtime of wmedia I am just interested of the fastest renderable wave format for my kind of device (see signature) that has bypassed the wmedia boundary and suspectably plays it some kind of "straight/raw" method. I've got a feeling that it is not the lowest (for example mono 8bit and 6kHz)

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Recording Phone Calles....

Hi there i have noticed that ppl want to record their phone conversation so here is the trick i got from Pocket PC email.
Recording phone calls
Here's a neat trick you can do with your Pocket PC Phone Edition that you probably can't do with your old phone. Did you know you can record single phone conversations or keep track of conference calls with your Pocket PC? This would come in very handy if you would like to remember exactly what a conversation was about, days after the conversation had taken place! Of course, you can also use it to make sure you get what you are promised when you call your telephone company to sort out your account!
Before you do this, you should be aware of the laws in your area regarding recording phone conversations. You should also tell the person you are talking to that you are going to record the phone conversation. Having done that, read on...
To record a phone call, start the phone call as per normal, then once you have started the phone call, open the notes application (tap the button), tap New from the menu bar at the bottom, and tap the button. You should see the recording bar at the bottom of the screen.
Simply tap the record button to record the conversation.
You may get variable results depending on the device you are using, and may not be able to use this at all on some devices - particularly older ones.
... or you can just press a record button after establising a call.
On most devices this would record only sound coming to microphone, so other party sound volume would be low. This has been discussed several times before.
also it does record only in WAV files & still the recording length is limited to a certain maximum length!
recording phone calls
Seems to me that what people would like is (NaturalRecorder)
http://www.naturalwidgets.com/products/naturalrecorder/
But this is only Compatible with Nokia Series 60
unless some one knows how to adapt it
if i am recording a call using the Notes application i can hear my voice ver clear but i can't hear the other end.. how to improve that?
this method does not work with magician
ezzkht said:
also it does record only in WAV files & still the recording length is limited to a certain maximum length!
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I guess 3 minutes
Guys, I've just had a thought about this problem (recording/playing sound from/to the phone)
How does the bluetooth profile work? This is redirecting audio through the bluetooth stack to the headset.
Would it be feasible to write a dummy bluetooth profile that would merely redirect audio in/out back to the local device, so that we can record it etc?
V
I once recorded conversation using Resco Audio recorder V 3.2...one can listen the other party sound.. relatively better than the notes application...
But I guess this will work much better in quiet surroundings..
Have anyone tried Simbsoft Voice Recorder?
http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...latformId=2&N=96806&productId=118218&R=118218
Anyone any thoughts on the bluetooth profile idea?
Concensus is that it is not technically possible otherwise to record the phone through current software and drivers; I haven't tried other recording software, but that's not what I'm talking about...
V
vijay555 said:
Anyone any thoughts on the bluetooth profile idea?
Concensus is that it is not technically possible otherwise to record the phone through current software and drivers; I haven't tried other recording software, but that's not what I'm talking about...
V
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It could work if someone can write a virtual BT driver, which would actually buffer the incoming & outgoing audio streams & write them to a WAV or MP3 file..
By the way, Resco Audio Recorder can record both parties in a conversation! I just tried it now on my JAM
ezzkht - re buffering Audio, that's exactly what I'm suggesting. I know some of the guys on the board are working on a bluetooth stack replacement. I guess I better post a new thread on this subject.
Re Resco: is it recording internally, or through the microphone and speaker? eg, is it dependant on how loud the phone volume is?
V
vijay555 said:
ezzkht - re buffering Audio, that's exactly what I'm suggesting. I know some of the guys on the board are working on a bluetooth stack replacement. I guess I better post a new thread on this subject.
Re Resco: is it recording internally, or through the microphone and speaker? eg, is it dependant on how loud the phone volume is?
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(RESCO) It does not depend on the volume of the phone! thats why i liked it 8)
Give it a try, http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/audiorecorder/default.asp
That's very interesting. I'll look into it.
V
ezzkht said:
It could work if someone can write a virtual BT driver, which would actually buffer the incoming & outgoing audio streams & write them to a WAV or MP3 file.
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this would not work. GSM audio outputs are physically connected directly to BT chip and data does not go through any driver.
mamaich - thanks! Didn't know that. What do you think about Resco audiorecorder recording both sides? I've not heard of that before.
V
Thanks mamaich! I never knew that
So how could Resco Audio Recorder capture both streams together..?
BTW, as far as one-button recording start is concerned, you may want to check out the "One-button recording? Does it need to show the app window?" row in the article "Everything you may need to know about sound recording on the Pocket PC": http://pocketpcmag.com/blogs/menneisyys/112005SoundRecorderApps.asp
Almost all sound / audio recorder applications know this trick.
Go get PMRRecorder at http://www.1800message.com/SPWM5CallRec.cab
It works very well on my Universal! It automatically records calls! I take the recorded files and have my secretary transpose them to text. Audio level is very good.

Nokia HS-12W Wireless Stereo Headset -FM/RDS with non nokia

Anyone tried this headset with a non nokia phone.
Eg a universal.
Wondering if the SMS/MMS indicators work?
HS-12W
Greetings GDawes,
I'm using the Nokia HS-12W with my O2 Exec using the Qtek ROM.
Streaming/audio controls are all good. However SMS (icon) indications etc
don't seem to work.
Hope we find a way to implement this feature soon.
Nice-up.
What about caller id names from phones contact list?
Does the caller name show up on the headset for incoming caller id
Caller I.D on HS-12W
No mate. All I see are numbers.
Still think it's one of my best buys in recent years though
You are right! Got one from Expansys this morning and soon after charging fully it has been hanging around my neck tuned in to FM. Sound quality is also good.
Using it with Atom. No names adre displayed.Hope a solution is found soon.
Victor
Guys whats your range like, i get no more than a meter away from my phone and the sound drops out, also have a hiss in the background that is really annoying at low volumes any thoughts ???
1 meter :evil: :?:
What is your device? Within the same room I don't get any issues. No hissing on my Atom 8)
I am using a Tornado not very happy at all
I am using a Tornado not very happy at all
hs-12w and magician
Hi,
I just bought the HS-12w. Paired it without a problem with my Magician (using the a2dp patch). The problem is the hissing sound at the high end when playing mp3s ... I don't know if this is because of the headset itself or because of the magician and the patch ((
Br,
Deyan
problems fixed
I fixed the sound quality problem by changing a registry setting (increased the bitrate of the streaming to the headset). Quite happy now with the quality
Br,
Deyan
Re: problems fixed
deyanp said:
I fixed the sound quality problem by changing a registry setting (increased the bitrate of the streaming to the headset). Quite happy now with the quality
Br,
Deyan
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where is this registry setting?

WM6 A2DP settings

Hi,
I am using O2 xda mini s, and i just bought a sony ericson HBH-DS970 stereo bluetooth earphones.
I am using WM6 Xplorer Rom and radio version 02.25.11.
Currently I am a bit frustrated with my bluetooth earphone as the quality is very poor eventhough I read that the quality of the sound if used with other bluetooth handphone / pocket PC is superb.
I have ben searching this forum to either tweaks the registry or any patch to improve the sound but currently I'm still lost. I found one old post (WM5) which guide us to tweaks -> HKLM/software/microsoft/bluetooth/a2dp/settings....
but my problem is that there is no settings folder under my a2dp, there are 4 folder with label 1,2,3,4.
Are there any way i can improve the sound quality???
will changing the radio rom affect the quality of bluetooth reception??
Please enlighten me..
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297762&page=100
Try the settings from cduncan...
If there is no registry entry, you will have to manually put them.
You can change the bitpool setting for quality of music.
HTH
Cheers Sids,
I have already do as you said... previously went to that post but feel lost, and since the thread have over 100 pages, therefore i feel inappropriate to ask you or duncan.
One more thing though, can i ask you what is your personal preference on those settings?? I cant put a lot of bass, because it will sound terrible, like broken speaker.. what todo??
cheers mate
p/s My problem is that the quality of the sound that coming out of my BT earphone is just poor (although others are highly recommending this DS970). I have no problem with pairing it with my wizard or the playback.
I have play around with the BitPool and the only difference that I notice was the volume level, not the sound quality. any advice??
One more thing, is the selection of Radio Rom have any effect to the quality of the bluetooth signal i.e. to the output in my BT earphone??? Help...
Thanks again
Hi,
I cant say about your BT headsets. But I confirmed these things - Updated firmware from the manufacturer (Jabra for me) and the quality with other A2DP enabled (maybe nokia/SE) phone.
I have set my bitpool setting to 60 which is Farias default, but he placed the reg entry in AD2P folder instead of A2DP by mistake.
I am using equalizer settings with TCPMP for the nice sound, which I dont get with Windows Media Player. Maybe you could try that out.
Even after those settings and tweakings, I dont think BT headsets can replace wired headsets for an audiophile. You will only just get passable sound quality. Maybe its got to do with bandwidth that BT provides.
Lastly, I may be wrong, but Radio roms are only used for GSM radio. Its got nothing to do with BT.
Gurus, please correct me if I am wrong anywhere.
Sid
I'm using faria ROM Real Thing and using Oakley OROKR as my bluetooth stereo. But I have unusual problem. When I listen MP3 from pocket music 4.3.4 my OROKR produced a lag sound. Sometimes the sound was disapeared and suddenly back to normal again (with lag of course). I have try my OROKR with my PALM Treo 650 using A2DP s/w it's produced same quality like my MDA. Is this happen cause the registry setting or my OROKR problem? Help me?
PS: If I used OROKR to call it's 100% normal
For what it's worth, i have tested my plantronics pulsar 590a (bt ver2) with other htc devices with bluetooth ver 2 and audio was excellent. the wizard only has bt ver 1.2 and that is maybe where sound quality is lost. just a thought...
did you buy the headphones on ebay? Got mine on ebay and I was very disappointed with the sound quality. i checked online and, for my surprised, i discovered that what I got from ebay was a cheap fake. I bought a new set from sony shop and voila, they work perfect. Sound is amazing..with the SE k800i i am using from time to time. Couldnt get them to worjk with my xda2i tho

A2DP Bluetooth Settings

I have been scouring the discussion board looking for tweaks to the A2DP settings. I have a custom rom but don't think anything was done to enhance the bluetooth settings. I think the sound can be much better but can't find current tweaks with the new stack. So i ask you all, if you have made tweaks to your Bluetooth Audio and are pleased with the sound, what tweaks have you made?
Thanks in Advance!
I am using motorla S9's and the top end sound is washy,tinny.
if you use advance comfig it has bluetooth settings you can adjust
are the s9s comfortable for you? i have the s9 hds and they kill my ears
They are not bad. I can get them to be just right.
I know about the configuration tool, but I am not sure where to go with certain settings? i.e. Bitpool, joint stereo etc. Right now i have bitpool at Medium and it's still kinda crappy - on the high end.
lbhocky19 said:
if you use advance comfig it has bluetooth settings you can adjust
are the s9s comfortable for you? i have the s9 hds and they kill my ears
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With S9 there is a very fine line between barely noticing they are on and utter discomfort, and it all depends on how you wear them.
Unfortunately there isn't a way to describe it, but there is a sweet spot, a position where it seems to be perfect.
Smaniac said:
With S9 there is a very fine line between barely noticing they are on and utter discomfort, and it all depends on how you wear them.
Unfortunately there isn't a way to describe it, but there is a sweet spot, a position where it seems to be perfect.
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i may have found the way you describe but when you have them in do they just rest in your ear or do you actually have them like in the canal like most noice isolating ones?
ive used the new zune ones and some shure ones that you really push in your ear but these i can only seem to get just barely in and you dont get the great bass unless you kinda push them which isnt practical
Bluetooth Settings
I use the following bluetooth settings-changed thru the advance config 3.3 tool
bitpool very high
Max bitpool 80
Min bitpool 30
sampling 48000
This sounds really good thru by jabra 620s
thanks for the data - I will go with those settings.
in2vnyl said:
I use the following bluetooth settings-changed thru the advance config 3.3 tool
bitpool very high
Max bitpool 80
Min bitpool 30
sampling 48000
This sounds really good thru by jabra 620s
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what do you use to listen to your music? I try using the HTC player with setting way low than yours and I get tremendous skipping and songs that are "busy", for talk radio they're fine but almost every song skips. my settings are
bitpool=25
max=60
min=15
sampling=44000
no stereo
I had these problems with my apache but I figured that the Touch Pro would be quick enough for this. Could someone please point me in the right direction to not skip. thanks in advance.
with the settings very high does your phone slow down?
it always makes tf3d real laggy and such whenever i play music over stereo with high bluetooth quality
in2vnyl said:
I use the following bluetooth settings-changed thru the advance config 3.3 tool
bitpool very high
Max bitpool 80
Min bitpool 30
sampling 48000
This sounds really good thru by jabra 620s
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I am going to try out these settings. I just tried switching bitpool to high and no other tweaks and the sound was still pretty bad, I would almost venture to say worse than FM radio. I never had any problems with A2DP quality on my Tilt and I never touched a setting so I'm pretty disappointed. Hopefully this will fix it.
S9 Working good on Fuze
I have mine on low and no skips, not sure if very low sounded better. Maybe it will work for you
To summarize:
What is the configuration that you ultilizam in bluetooth?
The greater BITPOOL higher "quality" and lower performance of Bluetooth (signal power) right?
My device is HTC Diamond and Motorola S9 (A2DP)
What configuration i use?
one question:
Joint stereo - Yes?
PC400 said:
one question:
Joint stereo - Yes?
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Just try this simple settings, sounds great, no skipping at all.
Joint Stereo -> NO
reason is becos it would not be true/real stereo if we choose YES... right?
I use the following registry setting.
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/A2DP/Settings
Bitpool - 76
MaxSupportedBitPool - 80
SampleRate - 48000
UseJointStereo - 0
This is what I have ended up with through trial and error, give this a go. However I think assuming joint stereo doesn't give you real stereo is simplistic and incorrect. I have had a bit of a read and it is quite complicated.
I wouldn't worry about it too much, just try both and see what you think sounds better.
All A2DP confused people must read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310438
I'm getting a bit frustrated with the bluetooth on my touch pro.
My current settings are
bitpool very high
Max bitpool 80
Min bitpool 30
sampling 48000
No skipping all is fine until I go walkabout and put the phone in my pocket.
Skip skip skipitty skip.
Tried other settings but still no joy.
Help........

Bluetooth audio skips

I'm on 8.1 dp2 in hopes of a fix but it doesn't seem to have helped. My Bluetooth audio skips once every song or two and it's super frustrating while in my car. I've tried disabling WiFi and Bluetooth scanning and adjusting the codec options but nothing seems to work? Anyone else with this issue or a solution? I just received wireless earbuds so I'll test those to make sure it's not my stereo but my s8 had worked fine...
Ok say my new ear buds are Bluetooth 5 and I haven't noticed a single skip yet. My stereo is only 3 so maybe that has something to do with it? As far as I can find however there are no current bt5 stereos so I'm not sure what the issue or solution would be...
Enable the developer options. You can choose between sound quality and connective stability. You can also lower the sampling rate to 44100kHz. In a word, reduce the data transferring rate. I think these might help.
I did all of that and have tried all the options
slyr114 said:
I did all of that and have tried all the options
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I have had this problem cropping up on various Toyota forums with the root cause being the automotive entertainment systems. It appears that most newer systems are still based on 2008/9 technologies which only have a limited ability to buffer the B/T audio. I'm not suggesting that this is your car but I thought it is worth mentioning.
Ive got a Sony stereo I put in myself haha it's relatively new

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