Question regarding converting videos - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps

I havee some dvd's I managed to convert to video files on my computer for backup.
What program would be ideal to turn them into apropriate 480x800 resolution vids for my new HD2?

I would recommend MediaCoder. It's free and open-source.
These are the settings I use when converting down from HD material:
Format: H.264
Mode: Average bitrate @ 1200Kbps
x264 Profile: Baseline (IMPORTANT)
Audio format: AAC
Audio encoder: FAAC
Audio mode: Average bitrate @128Kbps
Container: MP4
Resize: 800x450
Aspect ratio: Set PAR 1:1
800x450 is of course the resolution I use for 16:9. And I change the height accordingly, so if I am converting something that is in 2.40:1, I will resize to 800x334. This is because I do not like to crop anything.
In this example of 2.40:1, you may want to resize to 1152x480 instead. That way you can either watch it zoomed out, or if you zoom in, it will be in native resolution but just miss the sides (assuming you are using the HTC Player which gives option of zooming to fill screen). If you do this you will want to up the bit-rate a bit, to 1500-1800Kbps.
But, if you are converting from Standard Def material on DVD, then just keep it in it's original resolution.

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does any one know how i play video files on x7510,i tryed wmv and mp4 avi they dont work
play these files with coreplayer,nd if there is a sound lag u r observing,then goto coreplayer-preferences-advanced-down in the list there is an option for +/- av offset,set it to -600,also like done with advanced setting,once again goto preferances-video,try to change the video drivers from default ati imageon to other given such as raw frame buffer,gdi etc....enjoy
Use Xilisoft 3GP Video Converter (ver. 5.1.22.0305 or higher) and convert video with profile "BlackBerry MPEG-4 Video (*.mp4)" - set resolution to 320x240 or 352x264 (in "Profile Settings"). It may be appropriate and another converter with BlackBerry mp4 support and with resolution 320x240 or 352x264. This will give the best results for playback of video in standard Windows Media Player in HTC Advantage (I think it use hardware acceleration). Better than CorePlayer or TCPMP!!! Recommended for all! Complete synchronization of video and audio, smooth and excellent quality without lags.
were do i get corplayer or blackberry converter from
http://www.xilisoft.com/3gp-video-converter.html
For example, I was convert the "Matrix" advertising to format for the our WMP (BlackBery, 352x264, 1500 kbps, 24 fps). You can download and view:
http://rapidshare.com/files/211370712/RL_XQ_352x264_1500_112.mp4.html
or
http://rapidshare.de/files/46224820/RL_XQ_352x264_1500_112.mp4.html
(And remember, open only with WMP - in full screen)

Bets video performance and quality.

Diamond users! Frst I wanted to make a long research thread about the possibilities of video conversion and optimals formats. Instead I'm just gonna tell you which programs work and which video formats are best for my diamond 2 (freshly flashed!)
Use FormatFactory for conversion (google it, it's free!)
You can convert any filefrom any place (iso's and DVD's included) to any other format and setting you want. Good thing is that it's very user friendly and easy to use, and you can insert your own options. Convert any videofile by selecting it, use the options to set it's framarate, screensize and codec, and convert it.
Use Coreplayer 1.2.5 build 4506 (it's the only one that works on my diamond 2, and it's not free)
Or WMPlayer (comes with the phone, but less options and compatibility with file formats)
Here's some pointers on conversion settings without much quality loss.
-In FormatFactory use the "convert to mp4" option. Select any file you want (also from dvd, which gives you some neat options like inserting subtitles and choosing audio language). I've tested mp4 divx and mp4 xvid codecs, as well as AVI and WMV. The last two are bigger in size, and the AVI files run veeeery slow on your phone in coreplayer. WMPlayer doesn't support AVI. I haven't tried MPG conversion, because it is usualy larger in filesize, and the MP4 encoding worked a charm for me, good quality, 18 to 21 frames (human eye can see 21 tops) and small filesize.
-Under settings, you can do whatever you want, just be sure to change the screen size (you can type your desired size) to 800x480, which is widescreen for diamond 2 (largest)
Choose the Xvid Encoder (Divx lags more and is a bit larger. tested on 20 meg DVD rip files, divx came out 13,5 megs in size while Xvid came out 11,2 megs. for any type and size of video the difference in size after conversion is up to 20%!) The H.264 encoder sucks, because coreplayer won't be able to play it smoothly (almost not at all!).
-You can choose to alter the bitrate settings for either video or audio, but I suggest you shrink em down, since my tests resulted in no recognizable loss of quality for extremely different settings. I had a hi-res file with 1600 bitrate and 24 frames p/s, and a lo-res file running only 786 bitrate and 20 frames p/s. No noticeable difference for me, and the size and running of the file was way better than the higher one. My optimal settings thus are:
-800x480 (Resolution)
-786 (Bitrate)
-20 (frames per second)
For audio I didn't change anything, since it is already set quite low, except for the bitrate, which you could preferably set to 22050 if you want to save a small amount of megs on your storage for a full movie. but 44100 and 48000 are fine too, doesn't differ much in quality audio anyway.
Now all you have to to is press okay in the options screen, and "start" on the mainscreen where the videofile has now appeared, ready to be converted. you might wanna set an output directory for your videofile, but that speaks for itself....
Tell me what you think of the settings and program, and tell me if you found any other (better) settings for running video on diamond 2.
Good luck!
Link to FormatFactory (FREE!)
http://www.formatoz.com/download.html
download SUPER !
it's really super
Converst superfast to any device...
then watch with CorePlayer !
I got about 30 hours ov video in superb quality on my phone for my little boy
you know the complete disney / pixar stack opf video's
I copnverted everything with SUPER
hello flexikon,
800x480 fits pretty strange on WMPlayer (i keep the phone on the side not straight up) tbh 480x272 fits better on the screen but looks worst - what would be a good resolution to use for WMPlayer ??
or should i select 16.9 convertion for 800x480 ??
thx
I've seen other discussions about this. It's probably the landscaping that screws up your resoltution. since i have no direct link to other topics and the google search for the forums is out, you gonna have to locate the topic yourself, but it's about mp4 encoding and it makes this thread pretty much useless, since better options are available through there....

What format to convert video to?

I use handbrake at home to convert videos, but at the moment it seems to be a bit hit and miss when it comes to working it on the Nexus.
I've installed Meridian and Video Player from the market, both read videos the same way.
So I converted 5 videos with no problem, they were relatively short. But when I did a longer conversion (dvd which was 1hr 30) it just didn't like it. Plays on my PC fine.
I cant remember which settings I used, so can anyone recommend what settings to use in handbrake? Or is there better software to convert movies with? Or is there a better media player on the market?
mp4 with h264. If I remember right there is still an iPod profile. The newer version did away with a lot of the profiles but that one should be around. With this screen you do not need to scale down the image but it would help for space.
When I get home I can post more detailed settings if need be.
I'm using Allok Mpeg4 converter at 720x480
i found using handbrake that h.264 doesn't work on the nexus, but the regular mp4 codec does
xtop said:
i found using handbrake that h.264 doesn't work on the nexus, but the regular mp4 codec does
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Not to be anal but mp4 is a container format (like ogg), not a codec (like vorbis). MPEG-4 part 2 is the "default" visual codec component. In reality it is not anymore. H.264 is also part of the MPEG-4 specification, MPEG-4 part 10 to be precise. In handbrake H.264 is the default for the mp4 container.
I am certain that h.264 can work on the N1. I have a few time wasters I keep on my phone. The more operative question is whether the current handbrake ripping to m4v works for the N1. I am reripping a film right now using the iPhone profile....
And using the iPhone & iPod Touch preset in Handbrake 0.9.4 the rip worked fine. Which preset did you use? Keep in mind some of the higher h.264 profiles might not work on the phone.
Personally I would probably up the picture settings to match the N1's resolution and maybe bump the quality down if worried about space. I was able to play a h.264 set to high settings but I am not sure what the exact settings were. It appears the N1 can handle most, if not all, h.264 profiles.
ive done this, works perfectly with 720p mkv's
HANDBRAKE:
set vid profile to normal,
container: MP4 800 x 480 ,, check the keep aspect ratio, anamorphic off, bitrate 1500
audio AAC, 44.1khz, bitrate 96 stereo
save profile, load file
your jaw is gonna drop if you use these settings and encode a 720p mkv
kscasper13 said:
ive done this, works perfectly with 720p mkv's
HANDBRAKE:
set vid profile to normal,
container: MP4 800 x 480 ,, check the keep aspect ratio, anamorphic off, bitrate 1500
audio AAC, 44.1khz, bitrate 96 stereo
save profile, load file
your jaw is gonna drop if you use these settings and encode a 720p mkv
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Thanks for the info, gonna try it right now
Just so you have optoins I use Handbrake, just converted American Pie The naked Mile from DVD and it looks good. Here's my settings:
Container: MP4 File
Picture Tab: Set Anamorphic to None
Select Keep Aspect Ratio. It should auto scale the hight to proper hight
Video Tab: Video Codec to MPEG-4
Average Bit Rate to 700. You can use previously recommended 1500 but this will make a large file and I'm not sure you will see the difference in
quality on out small screens.
Audio Tab: Leave everything default accept the Samplerate set to 44.1
Click Start!!!!
kscasper13 said:
ive done this, works perfectly with 720p mkv's
HANDBRAKE:
set vid profile to normal,
container: MP4 800 x 480 ,, check the keep aspect ratio, anamorphic off, bitrate 1500
audio AAC, 44.1khz, bitrate 96 stereo
save profile, load file
your jaw is gonna drop if you use these settings and encode a 720p mkv
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800x480 with aspect ratio might aswel be 720x480
and the bitrate, as setzer said wont make to big of a difference on a small screen. 768-1024 are fine. 1500 appears to be a random number you chose as typical bitrates go from 768, 1024, 2048 etc
yea you can prolly set the vid bitrate lower, that's just what it was default and the movies come out perfect, i'm still testing other settings.
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800x480 with aspect ratio might aswel be 720x480
and the bitrate, as setzer said wont make to big of a difference on a small screen. 768-1024 are fine. 1500 appears to be a random number you chose as typical bitrates go from 768, 1024, 2048 etc
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yes it DOES make a difference, since our screen's are 80 pixels wider than 720
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kscasper13 said:
yes it DOES make a difference, since our screen's are 80 pixels wider than 720
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u dnt seem to quite understand. a typical video is made to have certain resolutions. obviously by converting a video u wil want to maintain the original aspect ratio, unless of course u dnt mind watching a stretched un porportioned video. that is why most converters have preset res already set to keep those aspect ratios and quality.from what u already said, u are watching a video stretched 80pixels too wide.
16/9 is the closest we have to a ratio standard, and 720x480 doesn't match that.
If your source is more than 800 pixels wide, the best setting is to scale the width down to 800 and let the height scale down proportionately. On a 16/9 video, this will leave very thin black bars on the bottom and top of your phone's screen. If these bother you, you will need to fiddle with Handbrake's crop settings.
If your source is smaller than 800 pixels wide, then you should just leave the resolution the same as the source. Upconverting will not make the picture any better and will just increase the filesize/bitrate.
As for bitrate, I've found that 1000-1500 looks amazing if you are converting HD video, but if you're converting SD then around 750 is sufficient.
A non-widescreen source will leave black bars to the left and right on your phone - you can get around this in two ways - firstly by stretching the picture which looks ugly IMO, or by doing your own cropping of the top and bottom of the picture during conversion.
JanetPanic said:
Not to be anal but mp4 is a container format (like ogg), not a codec (like vorbis). MPEG-4 part 2 is the "default" visual codec component. In reality it is not anymore. H.264 is also part of the MPEG-4 specification, MPEG-4 part 10 to be precise. In handbrake H.264 is the default for the mp4 container.
I am certain that h.264 can work on the N1. I have a few time wasters I keep on my phone. The more operative question is whether the current handbrake ripping to m4v works for the N1. I am reripping a film right now using the iPhone profile....
And using the iPhone & iPod Touch preset in Handbrake 0.9.4 the rip worked fine. Which preset did you use? Keep in mind some of the higher h.264 profiles might not work on the phone.
Personally I would probably up the picture settings to match the N1's resolution and maybe bump the quality down if worried about space. I was able to play a h.264 set to high settings but I am not sure what the exact settings were. It appears the N1 can handle most, if not all, h.264 profiles.
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you're right, didn't mean to say codec..thanks for correcting me
but it didn't seem to matter what i picked..normal, high profile, ipod touch, etc. anything i encoded to h.264 WON'T play. now maybe i'm overlooking something (likely), but who knows
edit: you handbrake users. do you change the audio settings at all? and do you do 2 pass, and would that help with anything?
i've noticed my encodes get a little blocky here and there, would 2 pass fix that?
kscasper13 said:
ive done this, works perfectly with 720p mkv's
HANDBRAKE:
set vid profile to normal,
container: MP4 800 x 480 ,, check the keep aspect ratio, anamorphic off, bitrate 1500
audio AAC, 44.1khz, bitrate 96 stereo
save profile, load file
your jaw is gonna drop if you use these settings and encode a 720p mkv
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Brilliant advice, worked a treat! Thanks a lot
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u dnt seem to quite understand. a typical video is made to have certain resolutions. obviously by converting a video u wil want to maintain the original aspect ratio, unless of course u dnt mind watching a stretched un porportioned video. that is why most converters have preset res already set to keep those aspect ratios and quality.from what u already said, u are watching a video stretched 80pixels too wide.
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ggggodddddi i was kidding u doof
and yes i understand bitrate an d resolutions, i went to school for 3d rendering, but thanks for the gradeschool lesson on resolution gates.
tvrf21 said:
Brilliant advice, worked a treat! Thanks a lot
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no worries buddy, soon ima figure out the cropping settings sop it fills the screen, even though it doesn't bother me one bit
I currently use the following (for 16x9 content)
Code:
ffmpeg -i Input.avi -acodec libfaac -ac 2 -ar 44100 -ab 128k -s 800x450 -vcodec libx264 -b 700k -flags +loop -cmp +chroma -partitions +parti4x4+partp8x8+partb8x8 -subq 5 -trellis 1 -refs 1 -coder 0 -me_range 16 -g 300 -keyint_min 25 -sc_threshold 40 -i_qfactor 0.71 -bt 400k -maxrate 700k -bufsize 400k -rc_eq 'blurCplx^(1-qComp)' -qcomp 0.6 -qmin 15 -qmax 51 -qdiff 4 -level 30 output.mp4
I miss out "-s 800x450" if the source material is under that already, no point scaling it up when the N1 will do it for you. For 4:3 I'd use "-s 640x480"
I use the program Flash to Video PRO, to me has very much helps.
The reason why above poster chose 1500 bitrare when converting from a 720p video is because from what I have found to be the highest bitrate the N1 will support (or all the video players on the market atleast) btw use mVideoPlayer by far the best video player...
I might also add that the latest version of AnyDVD converter has a converting option built in for the nexus ... wich is basically the same as aboves post handbreak settings..

My Blu-Ray Ripper Reveiws

Okay so I spent hours playing with different options for ripping blu-rays into a format that could be transferred to my Xoom and I would like to share what I have learned.
The Rippers
I started with some research and downloaded six or seven different programs designed for ripping blu-rays that were recommended some where on the web.
I almost immediately discarded all but three rippers. Two were immediately ruled out after just examining the UI and noticing the lack of customization options. Another three were ruled out based on the fact they required a separate program called AnyDVD to run at all. This didn’t bother me too much but further investigation found that AnyDVD costs $60+ in itself and does not offer the most user friendly experience.
It’s also worth noting I did not try out the beta of DVD Catalyst because it also requires AnyDVD or a similar program running in unison both of which would be added cost and added hassle. If your only looking to rip DVDs then DVD Catalyst for only $10 is the way to go from what I hear.
What I ended up with were three blu-ray ripping trials.
DVDFab Blu-ray Ripper – $60
Pavtube Blu-Ray Ripper – $49
Aunsoft Blu-Ray Ripper – $49
At first glance Pavtube and Aunsoft seemed almost identical in UI but they performed very different.
Customization
DVDFab was the first ripper I tried and I was very disappointed with the lack of control when ripping the blu-rays. There were nine different profiles to choose from when selecting .mp4 output format. Five of which had either ‘ipad’ or ‘iphone’ in the name and had very low max resolution outputs. In the end the only profile that was workable was the basic profile for h264 and for some reason did not support 1920×1080 resolution.
Pavtube and Aunsoft had, like I mentioned, identical UIs and actually shared identical customization options. In addition to having many more built in profiles for everything from different Android phones and IPhones to gaming consoles and even power points, it also had basic profiles for common video formats.
Where both Pavtube and Aunsoft set themselves apart from DVDFab was in the customization of these profiles. While DVDFab attempted to give me control of resolution, frame rate, bit rate, and audio, Pavtube and Aunsoft actually allowed me to change these to an assortment of options including 1920×1080 at multiple frame rates.
Testing
In order to get a good base line of these programs I popped in Avatar on blu-ray into my blu-ray rom and selected a chapter to use as testing so I didn’t need to rip the entire movie every time.
From here on you will see me post settings in the form:
Codec: [codec used, file type always .mp4]
Resolution: [resolution]
Bit Rate: [bit rate]
Size: [file size generated]
Speed: [time it took to rip, in minutes]
In DVDFab I was only able to make one good base test due to the lack of customization. I set the settings to:
Codec: h264
Resolution: 1680×946
Bit Rate: 5000
Size: 130mb
Speed: 9:33
This test led me to believe that DVDFab was a possibility because the picture looked phenomenal with good 3d depth and very little artifacting around moving objects. The problem was that it was laggy. It took 10-15 seconds for what appeared to be buffering before the clip would smooth out and then I would get bullet lag quiet often.
I was confident this would be improved if I played with the settings but found that quality had to really be reduced in order for the clip to smooth out.
DVDFab was essentially ruled out.
I then put together some test batches for both Pavtube and Aunsoft. I chose to go with four different profiles for each program. h264 with HD standards, h264 base standards, MPEG 4 (xvid) with HD standards, and MPEG 4 (xvid) with base standards. These were the final settings and results:
Note: The chapter I chose was 3:34 long and my computer is using an Nvidia GTX 570 paired with an Intel E6750 2.66GHz dual core processor. You can use this information to judge the speed it took to rip these files. CUDA acceleration was on for all but the first video, CUDA is an Nvidia technology that speeds up the encoding and decoding of h264 files which is the reason the h264 files were significantly faster than the xvid files.
PavTube
4 files
Codec: h264 HD
Resolution: 1920×1080
Bit Rate: 9000
Size: 230mb
Speed: 12:57 (CUDA acceleration was off)
Codec: MPEG(xvid) HD
Resolution: 1920×1080
Bit Rate: 12000
Size: 307mb
Speed: 8:40
Codec: h264
Resolution: 1920×1080
Bit Rate: 9000
Size: 232mb
Speed: 3:20
Codec: MPEG(xvid)
Resolution: 1920×1080
Bit Rate: 12000
Size: 307mb
Speed: 8:40
Aunsoft
4 files
Codec: h264 HD
Resolution: 1920×1080
Bit Rate: 9000
Size: 232mb
Speed: 3:19
Codec: MPEG(xvid) HD
Resolution: 1920×1080
Bit Rate: 12000
Size: 307mb
Speed: 8:40
Codec: h264
Resolution: 1920×1080
Bit Rate: 9000
Size: 232mb
Speed: 3:20
Codec: MPEG(xvid)
Resolution: 1920×1080
Bit Rate: 12000
Size: 307mb
Speed: 8:47
As you can see the file sizes and speeds were almost identical between Aunsoft and Pavtube. Except of course for the first one where I forgot to turn CUDA acceleration on for the ripping.
Quality
Now here is where it got difficult. I know right off the bat people would ask me why I even tried the xvid codecs and instead just accepted that h264 would be the better codec. But I actually found the quality of the xvid looked better than the h264. After watching these clips over and over again both on the Xoom and hooked up to my HD TV, I settled on either the h264 with the HD standard and the xvid with the base line standards. Don’t ask me why these two because I couldn’t tell ya.
I like to think I have a pretty good eye for video quality, I currently sell HD TVs and can see the difference between 100k contrast and 120k contrast if that gives me any sort of justificaton.
I eventually agreed (with my girlfriend who was helping me judge) that the MPEG 4 with the xvid codec ripped by Pavtube was the best quality of the bunch. The colors were much more vibrant on my 42 inch plasma while the edges of moving objects were not blurred at all.
Results
What was important to me:
Quality of the Video
Compatibility with the Xoom
Usability of the program
What was not important to me:
Time to rip (I’m happy doing one movie overnight every night if need be)
Size – to an extent (quality is more important)
After reviewing every aspect of these programs that was important to me I can honestly say that Pavtube gave the best quality and also the best user experience. The reason it beat out Aunsoft is the fact that Aunsoft would convert some of my videos (the ones with the HD standards) to a 4:3 aspect ratio and also four tests made by Aunsoft failed to load on the Xoom while only one Pavtube test failed to load.
So I will now begin ripping my entire blu-ray collection into MPEG 4 formats at 12000 bit rate. But note at these settings your probably looking at 10GBs per movie so these settings are for people who share what is and isn’t important for me. Even if this is not what your looking for I would still recommend Pavtube as the ripper of choice but instead of the xvid codec at 12000 bit rate I would go with the h264 codec at 9000 bit rate because you won’t sacrifice clarity, just color.
Tips
If you are looking to test video quality for yourself look for a chapter when under Title Mode (on the Pavtube UI) that is rather short but has a good display of colorful moving objects and rip that chapter into different formats and settings.
When ripping the full movie switch the UI to File Mode and rip only the main file. The reason I recommend switching to File Mode is because if you rip both the title and all the chapters under Title Mode it will actually rip the movie twice. If you read my previous edits you will have seen how this doubled my file size.
Manually set the frame rate to what your looking for, I recommend matching the source. But do not use original frame rate when ripping the full movie, for me it got it wrong and played my movie in what appeared to be fast forward.
Epilogue
I need to note that I’m in no way affiliated with any of the above programs and did this testing because I couldn’t find any reviews that were not sponsored by the programs themselves.
I’m entirely new to compression and ripping so this was a learning experience for me and hope that my terminology and assumptions of how the process works is accurate.
As a CS major I’m looking to get familiar with technical writing and I hope this review was readable, informative, and to the point.
Everything above is simply my opinions based on the time I spent with these programs

[Q] Best Setting For Videos?

Hi again all!
I have some DVDs of television episodes that I want to watch on my Transformer.
I am going to use Freemake to 'rip' the DVD into individual episodes and I was wondering what the best settings to use would be? (e.g. bit rate, frame size, audio settings, etc.)
I had a few .AVI videos that I copied over and played but unfortunately the video was REALLY laggy (the sound was not synched up with the voice, especially noticeable watching people talk).
Hopefully things will be better when I create the videos with the correct target platform in mind.
J
For 720p h.264 videos use a baseline profile at level 3.1. For lower resolution (dvd resolution) you can use main profile at level 3.1. Honeycomb 3.1 is almost here and the performance are better.
9600pro87 said:
For 720p h.264 videos use a baseline profile at level 3.1. For lower resolution (dvd resolution) you can use main profile at level 3.1. Honeycomb 3.1 is almost here and the performance are better.
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wow thats above my head! i will try to figure out what you are saying unless you want to explain more
thank you!
I use Mediacoder for encode my dvd. I set h.264 with main profile at level 3.1. 2Mb for video bandwith and aac-lc for audio format. Then i choose MP4 container and that's all.
9600pro87 said:
I use Mediacoder for encode my dvd. I set h.264 with main profile at level 3.1. 2Mb for video bandwith and aac-lc for audio format. Then i choose MP4 container and that's all.
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great thank you again!

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