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Hi,
I've been searching what settings to rip my videos to play in TP.
Can anyone suggest some optimum settings? frame rates etc?
Cheers
joymike123
depensd on your app, but 640x480 (or a tad smaller for widescreen, 640x360 i think) is fine. 25fps. file should be around 700mb
Mine managed to play a 900mb rip of a movie at slightly higher than VGA the other day at 150% benchmark.
I am so pleased that I finally have a deice where I can just drag videos onto the memory card without having to convert
I can play VGA video @700MB only 75% of benchmark. Why???
not converting @ all.... just watching the normal video wich i download for my pc..
I tried playing bigger files to start with but the playback wasn't smooth so I tried some different conversions using Aimersoft Video Converter and came up with these settings...
Video
Resolution: 320*240
Frame Rate: 30 fps
Encoder: H.264
Bit Rate: 768 kbps
Audio
Sample Rate: 44100 Hz
Channel: Stereo
Encoder: AAC
Bit Rate kbps
What player are you guys using?
im using coreplayer. settings are similar (using clonedvdmobile)
only differences:
640x480 (or widescreen 640x360)
25fps
1012kbps
Could anybody test video performance with this file?
http://shintak.info/ppc/download/betaplayer/sample/RL_XQ_640x480_1500_128.avi
I own asus p750 (considering touch pro) and with core player 1.2.5. I get around 110%.
I find that if I run windows media player first, leave it running in the background and then run coreplayer, the videos run alot smoother...
But if you are looking at downloading and then playing videos directly off the unit plugged in to the tv, then this unit is not for you... If you use medium quality QTV when watching them on the unit... it's fine...
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Could anybody test video performance with this file?
http://shintak.info/ppc/download/betaplayer/sample/RL_XQ_640x480_1500_128.avi
I own asus p750 (considering touch pro) and with core player 1.2.5. I get around 110%.
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around 80%
I got 94.5%.
Have you tried setting video quality to medium in Coreplayer? I now have:
Video Output : QTv Display
Video Quality : Medium
And I got 160% using the video above. Still seemed to be pretty high quality to me! Will use that from now on I think.
Steve
Obviously it would be nice to play at full quality though... Just had a look at the corecodec forums and apparently an update is going to be released soon that improves performance on the diamond, so hopefully this will help us too!?!?
Thanks for your replies.
I used this settings:
Video Output : Intel XScale
Video Quality : High
Can not believe that old intel pxa270 scores better. Btw my p750 have ARMv5TE, and touch pro has new ARMv6 processor, so i hope that bad result is reflection of unoptimized software.
I hope that it will be sorted with new core player.
125.5%
Bench framerate 30.12fps
I'm on the stock 405 ROM
Coreplayer v1.2.2 settings:
RawFramebuffer
Quality - High
Smoothzoom - only for 50%
Diamond users! Frst I wanted to make a long research thread about the possibilities of video conversion and optimals formats. Instead I'm just gonna tell you which programs work and which video formats are best for my diamond 2 (freshly flashed!)
Use FormatFactory for conversion (google it, it's free!)
You can convert any filefrom any place (iso's and DVD's included) to any other format and setting you want. Good thing is that it's very user friendly and easy to use, and you can insert your own options. Convert any videofile by selecting it, use the options to set it's framarate, screensize and codec, and convert it.
Use Coreplayer 1.2.5 build 4506 (it's the only one that works on my diamond 2, and it's not free)
Or WMPlayer (comes with the phone, but less options and compatibility with file formats)
Here's some pointers on conversion settings without much quality loss.
-In FormatFactory use the "convert to mp4" option. Select any file you want (also from dvd, which gives you some neat options like inserting subtitles and choosing audio language). I've tested mp4 divx and mp4 xvid codecs, as well as AVI and WMV. The last two are bigger in size, and the AVI files run veeeery slow on your phone in coreplayer. WMPlayer doesn't support AVI. I haven't tried MPG conversion, because it is usualy larger in filesize, and the MP4 encoding worked a charm for me, good quality, 18 to 21 frames (human eye can see 21 tops) and small filesize.
-Under settings, you can do whatever you want, just be sure to change the screen size (you can type your desired size) to 800x480, which is widescreen for diamond 2 (largest)
Choose the Xvid Encoder (Divx lags more and is a bit larger. tested on 20 meg DVD rip files, divx came out 13,5 megs in size while Xvid came out 11,2 megs. for any type and size of video the difference in size after conversion is up to 20%!) The H.264 encoder sucks, because coreplayer won't be able to play it smoothly (almost not at all!).
-You can choose to alter the bitrate settings for either video or audio, but I suggest you shrink em down, since my tests resulted in no recognizable loss of quality for extremely different settings. I had a hi-res file with 1600 bitrate and 24 frames p/s, and a lo-res file running only 786 bitrate and 20 frames p/s. No noticeable difference for me, and the size and running of the file was way better than the higher one. My optimal settings thus are:
-800x480 (Resolution)
-786 (Bitrate)
-20 (frames per second)
For audio I didn't change anything, since it is already set quite low, except for the bitrate, which you could preferably set to 22050 if you want to save a small amount of megs on your storage for a full movie. but 44100 and 48000 are fine too, doesn't differ much in quality audio anyway.
Now all you have to to is press okay in the options screen, and "start" on the mainscreen where the videofile has now appeared, ready to be converted. you might wanna set an output directory for your videofile, but that speaks for itself....
Tell me what you think of the settings and program, and tell me if you found any other (better) settings for running video on diamond 2.
Good luck!
Link to FormatFactory (FREE!)
http://www.formatoz.com/download.html
download SUPER !
it's really super
Converst superfast to any device...
then watch with CorePlayer !
I got about 30 hours ov video in superb quality on my phone for my little boy
you know the complete disney / pixar stack opf video's
I copnverted everything with SUPER
hello flexikon,
800x480 fits pretty strange on WMPlayer (i keep the phone on the side not straight up) tbh 480x272 fits better on the screen but looks worst - what would be a good resolution to use for WMPlayer ??
or should i select 16.9 convertion for 800x480 ??
thx
I've seen other discussions about this. It's probably the landscaping that screws up your resoltution. since i have no direct link to other topics and the google search for the forums is out, you gonna have to locate the topic yourself, but it's about mp4 encoding and it makes this thread pretty much useless, since better options are available through there....
I use handbrake at home to convert videos, but at the moment it seems to be a bit hit and miss when it comes to working it on the Nexus.
I've installed Meridian and Video Player from the market, both read videos the same way.
So I converted 5 videos with no problem, they were relatively short. But when I did a longer conversion (dvd which was 1hr 30) it just didn't like it. Plays on my PC fine.
I cant remember which settings I used, so can anyone recommend what settings to use in handbrake? Or is there better software to convert movies with? Or is there a better media player on the market?
mp4 with h264. If I remember right there is still an iPod profile. The newer version did away with a lot of the profiles but that one should be around. With this screen you do not need to scale down the image but it would help for space.
When I get home I can post more detailed settings if need be.
I'm using Allok Mpeg4 converter at 720x480
i found using handbrake that h.264 doesn't work on the nexus, but the regular mp4 codec does
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i found using handbrake that h.264 doesn't work on the nexus, but the regular mp4 codec does
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Not to be anal but mp4 is a container format (like ogg), not a codec (like vorbis). MPEG-4 part 2 is the "default" visual codec component. In reality it is not anymore. H.264 is also part of the MPEG-4 specification, MPEG-4 part 10 to be precise. In handbrake H.264 is the default for the mp4 container.
I am certain that h.264 can work on the N1. I have a few time wasters I keep on my phone. The more operative question is whether the current handbrake ripping to m4v works for the N1. I am reripping a film right now using the iPhone profile....
And using the iPhone & iPod Touch preset in Handbrake 0.9.4 the rip worked fine. Which preset did you use? Keep in mind some of the higher h.264 profiles might not work on the phone.
Personally I would probably up the picture settings to match the N1's resolution and maybe bump the quality down if worried about space. I was able to play a h.264 set to high settings but I am not sure what the exact settings were. It appears the N1 can handle most, if not all, h.264 profiles.
ive done this, works perfectly with 720p mkv's
HANDBRAKE:
set vid profile to normal,
container: MP4 800 x 480 ,, check the keep aspect ratio, anamorphic off, bitrate 1500
audio AAC, 44.1khz, bitrate 96 stereo
save profile, load file
your jaw is gonna drop if you use these settings and encode a 720p mkv
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ive done this, works perfectly with 720p mkv's
HANDBRAKE:
set vid profile to normal,
container: MP4 800 x 480 ,, check the keep aspect ratio, anamorphic off, bitrate 1500
audio AAC, 44.1khz, bitrate 96 stereo
save profile, load file
your jaw is gonna drop if you use these settings and encode a 720p mkv
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Thanks for the info, gonna try it right now
Just so you have optoins I use Handbrake, just converted American Pie The naked Mile from DVD and it looks good. Here's my settings:
Container: MP4 File
Picture Tab: Set Anamorphic to None
Select Keep Aspect Ratio. It should auto scale the hight to proper hight
Video Tab: Video Codec to MPEG-4
Average Bit Rate to 700. You can use previously recommended 1500 but this will make a large file and I'm not sure you will see the difference in
quality on out small screens.
Audio Tab: Leave everything default accept the Samplerate set to 44.1
Click Start!!!!
kscasper13 said:
ive done this, works perfectly with 720p mkv's
HANDBRAKE:
set vid profile to normal,
container: MP4 800 x 480 ,, check the keep aspect ratio, anamorphic off, bitrate 1500
audio AAC, 44.1khz, bitrate 96 stereo
save profile, load file
your jaw is gonna drop if you use these settings and encode a 720p mkv
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800x480 with aspect ratio might aswel be 720x480
and the bitrate, as setzer said wont make to big of a difference on a small screen. 768-1024 are fine. 1500 appears to be a random number you chose as typical bitrates go from 768, 1024, 2048 etc
yea you can prolly set the vid bitrate lower, that's just what it was default and the movies come out perfect, i'm still testing other settings.
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800x480 with aspect ratio might aswel be 720x480
and the bitrate, as setzer said wont make to big of a difference on a small screen. 768-1024 are fine. 1500 appears to be a random number you chose as typical bitrates go from 768, 1024, 2048 etc
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yes it DOES make a difference, since our screen's are 80 pixels wider than 720
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kscasper13 said:
yes it DOES make a difference, since our screen's are 80 pixels wider than 720
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u dnt seem to quite understand. a typical video is made to have certain resolutions. obviously by converting a video u wil want to maintain the original aspect ratio, unless of course u dnt mind watching a stretched un porportioned video. that is why most converters have preset res already set to keep those aspect ratios and quality.from what u already said, u are watching a video stretched 80pixels too wide.
16/9 is the closest we have to a ratio standard, and 720x480 doesn't match that.
If your source is more than 800 pixels wide, the best setting is to scale the width down to 800 and let the height scale down proportionately. On a 16/9 video, this will leave very thin black bars on the bottom and top of your phone's screen. If these bother you, you will need to fiddle with Handbrake's crop settings.
If your source is smaller than 800 pixels wide, then you should just leave the resolution the same as the source. Upconverting will not make the picture any better and will just increase the filesize/bitrate.
As for bitrate, I've found that 1000-1500 looks amazing if you are converting HD video, but if you're converting SD then around 750 is sufficient.
A non-widescreen source will leave black bars to the left and right on your phone - you can get around this in two ways - firstly by stretching the picture which looks ugly IMO, or by doing your own cropping of the top and bottom of the picture during conversion.
JanetPanic said:
Not to be anal but mp4 is a container format (like ogg), not a codec (like vorbis). MPEG-4 part 2 is the "default" visual codec component. In reality it is not anymore. H.264 is also part of the MPEG-4 specification, MPEG-4 part 10 to be precise. In handbrake H.264 is the default for the mp4 container.
I am certain that h.264 can work on the N1. I have a few time wasters I keep on my phone. The more operative question is whether the current handbrake ripping to m4v works for the N1. I am reripping a film right now using the iPhone profile....
And using the iPhone & iPod Touch preset in Handbrake 0.9.4 the rip worked fine. Which preset did you use? Keep in mind some of the higher h.264 profiles might not work on the phone.
Personally I would probably up the picture settings to match the N1's resolution and maybe bump the quality down if worried about space. I was able to play a h.264 set to high settings but I am not sure what the exact settings were. It appears the N1 can handle most, if not all, h.264 profiles.
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you're right, didn't mean to say codec..thanks for correcting me
but it didn't seem to matter what i picked..normal, high profile, ipod touch, etc. anything i encoded to h.264 WON'T play. now maybe i'm overlooking something (likely), but who knows
edit: you handbrake users. do you change the audio settings at all? and do you do 2 pass, and would that help with anything?
i've noticed my encodes get a little blocky here and there, would 2 pass fix that?
kscasper13 said:
ive done this, works perfectly with 720p mkv's
HANDBRAKE:
set vid profile to normal,
container: MP4 800 x 480 ,, check the keep aspect ratio, anamorphic off, bitrate 1500
audio AAC, 44.1khz, bitrate 96 stereo
save profile, load file
your jaw is gonna drop if you use these settings and encode a 720p mkv
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Brilliant advice, worked a treat! Thanks a lot
m00moo said:
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u dnt seem to quite understand. a typical video is made to have certain resolutions. obviously by converting a video u wil want to maintain the original aspect ratio, unless of course u dnt mind watching a stretched un porportioned video. that is why most converters have preset res already set to keep those aspect ratios and quality.from what u already said, u are watching a video stretched 80pixels too wide.
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ggggodddddi i was kidding u doof
and yes i understand bitrate an d resolutions, i went to school for 3d rendering, but thanks for the gradeschool lesson on resolution gates.
tvrf21 said:
Brilliant advice, worked a treat! Thanks a lot
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no worries buddy, soon ima figure out the cropping settings sop it fills the screen, even though it doesn't bother me one bit
I currently use the following (for 16x9 content)
Code:
ffmpeg -i Input.avi -acodec libfaac -ac 2 -ar 44100 -ab 128k -s 800x450 -vcodec libx264 -b 700k -flags +loop -cmp +chroma -partitions +parti4x4+partp8x8+partb8x8 -subq 5 -trellis 1 -refs 1 -coder 0 -me_range 16 -g 300 -keyint_min 25 -sc_threshold 40 -i_qfactor 0.71 -bt 400k -maxrate 700k -bufsize 400k -rc_eq 'blurCplx^(1-qComp)' -qcomp 0.6 -qmin 15 -qmax 51 -qdiff 4 -level 30 output.mp4
I miss out "-s 800x450" if the source material is under that already, no point scaling it up when the N1 will do it for you. For 4:3 I'd use "-s 640x480"
I use the program Flash to Video PRO, to me has very much helps.
The reason why above poster chose 1500 bitrare when converting from a 720p video is because from what I have found to be the highest bitrate the N1 will support (or all the video players on the market atleast) btw use mVideoPlayer by far the best video player...
I might also add that the latest version of AnyDVD converter has a converting option built in for the nexus ... wich is basically the same as aboves post handbreak settings..
What is the best for playing movies? I plan to rip some from Dvds, and wondered what would play best. I am using Vegan 3. I dont know much about divx vs other codecs.
I use mp4 I have 22 video and they only take 20gb of space. I have heard of guys using .mov but I think it is a full 1080 few so it will probably use a lot more space. I think mp4 is only 720 capable
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I use mp4 I have 22 video and they only take 20gb of space. I have heard of guys using .mov but I think it is a full 1080 few so it will probably use a lot more space. I think mp4 is only 720 capable
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I want to convert some mkvs and some DVDs to mp4 for an up coming trip, has anyone used handbrake? If so what profile or preset are you using?
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I want to convert some mkvs and some DVDs to mp4 for an up coming trip, has anyone used handbrake? If so what profile or preset are you using?
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Handbrakes stock settings work fine for me I tried anyvideoconverter but converted files gave corrupt error
Depends on the source. DVD = standard video, so I would actually recommend Xvid in an AVI container. They play very nicely, plus it's a pretty standard format. And for problematic AC3 audio, you can use an app like Rockplayer. MKV also works nicely in Rockplayer. Or you can even encode to MP4 if you want iPod / iPad compatibility.
For High-Def, I would personally recommend MP4 (h263), only because h264 is so problematic. I use Handbrake and then alter the iPad Profile from h264 to MP4 (h263) and it works very nicely on our device. Yes, it's not "standard" so my files are really only for this device or my PC.
I'm not an expert on video formats or ripping/converting. However, I've spent the last couple of days (off and on) trying to find the best way to get vids on the gTab. As of this morning, the best option I've found is using Pazera. I used the "Video to iPod" converter with the following settings:
Output file format
MP4 (MPEG-4/AAC)
Bitrate: 1000 kbit/s
FPS: 30
Audio - Left it in "Auto"
Advanced Settings
Resolution: 1280 x 720 - HD720
The quality looks really good. No issues with the audio either. My only problem is the file size is 1.2GB. The vid I converted was 2 1/2 hours but I still think I want the file size around 500 to 700MB. I'm going to adjust the settings some more and see if I can find the balance between video quality and file size. It just takes an hour or so to convert it so this may take a few days.
I hope this is helpful to everyone. If anyone else has any experience with Pazera and can recommend good settings, I'm all ears!
Sly Soft's AnyDVD to rip and them AnyDVDMobile to convert (I use ipad's default settings on the mobile conversion and they work great - I use those settings b/c I my kids use the same rips for the ipod touch and it comes out as something they all can use (rather than keeping multiple copies for each device).
I have been using this to convert HD video into something the hardware decoder can play without issue:
Code:
INPUT="My_movie.mkv"
OUTPUT="My_movie-gtab.mp4"
ABITRATE=64k
VBITRATE=1500k
RESIZETO="-s 1024x576"
ffmpeg -strict experimental -y -i $INPUT -f mp4 $RESIZETO -vcodec libx264 \
-vpre default -vpre ipod640 -acodec aac -ab $ABITRATE \
-ac 2 -b $VBITRATE -threads 0 $OUTPUT
1000k for the video bitrate would net you about 480M/hour, with 1500k at about 700M/hour (which is fine by me).
The RESIZETO will work for 720p and 1080p content as it's resizing for the longer width. If you have SD content (DVDs) just comment out the RESIZETO. If you have something that is anamorphic (check ffmpeg -i $FILENAME) you will need to do your own math, or just leave it and up the bitrate. A good rule of thumb for high quality is:
0.14 * Height * Width * frames/sec
So 0.14 * 576 * 1024 * 29.97 = 2477260bps, or ~ 2500k, about 1.1G/hour
adjusting the number downward will reduce quality, but it's a choice between video quality and size at this point.
I have tested this with a few videos (Big Buck Bunny, originally 1080p content) and with some 720p videos. 1500k worked out really well.
Great info ckelly33 and ckelly. I'm starting to think the question is more on "what are the acceptable formats". Everyone is different and the output they are looking for is just as different. I'm still trying for 500 to 700MB.
I tried again and I think I've got it like I want it. Need to test it some more. On the last conversion I noticed a button for max file size. That got me right where I want to be!
ima_UNC_fan said:
Great info ckelly33 and ckelly. I'm starting to think the question is more on "what are the acceptable formats". Everyone is different and the output they are looking for is just as different. I'm still trying for 500 to 700MB.
I tried again and I think I've got it like I want it. Need to test it some more. On the last conversion I noticed a button for max file size. That got me right where I want to be!
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So far, It has accepted mp4 and avi containers (I prefer mp4), as well as mp3/aac for audio and h.264(main profile). Reports from roebeet says h.263 works as well. I have not tested xvid yet. I had issues with ac3 audio, so I don't think it supports that.
Of all of those, h.264 is a very very high quality codec, so I would recommend trying to use h.264/aac for encoding if at all possible.
Hey all;
So, I've had my Eee Pad for a few months now. Absolutely love it. One of the things that I'm aiming to do, is movie playback for road trips. Myself or my wife (whoever is passenger) can watch a movie, while streaming the audio through the car via Bluetooth (FordSync).
I had converted a couple of movies from HD MKVs (720p and 1080p) to MP4 for playback on my tablet using Handbrake and they played fine. Even HD (720p) music videos I've ripped from YouTube playback OK once converted, however any of my 420p (DVD) rips don't want to playback properly. The video is 2-4 times faster than it should be. I've Googled, and even done some searching on these forums, but the threads regarding fast video playback didn't apply to the Eee Pad.
I'm still on stock ROM, but updated to the latest one (3.1 I think it is). I've tried the built in video player, as well as a couple of others (current one installed is mVideoPlayer).
My Handbrake settings are as follows:
Picture
Keep Aspect Ratio
Anamorphic: None
Modulus: 16
Video Filters
All off
Video
Video Coded: H.264 (x264)
Framerate (FPS): Same as source
(Video)Quality
Avg Bitrate (kbps): 2200
Audio
Audio Coded: AAC (faac)
Mixdown: Stereo
Sample Rate: Auto
Bitrate: 160
DRC: 0.0
Advanced
Encoding
Reference Frames: 1
Maximum B-Frames: 0
Analysis
Motion Estimation Method: Uneven Multi-Hexagon
Subpixel ME & Mode Decision: 6: RD in I/P-frames
Motion Estimation Range: Default (16)
If the video has a 1080 resolution, I usually bring it down to 720 as it plays back better. If its an SD film, I leave the resolution/aspect ratio to whatever the video is encoded as.
Any help is greatly appreciated!!
Some things to try:
Go here build.handbrake.fr and download the latest SVN Handbrake GUI (Not CLI) and install it. It's possible that it is a bug in the latest official version that has been fixed.
Second, rather than using your own settings which may have inadvertently switched some switch - use the High Profile preset and encode this way. It should be automatic, but use Constant Quality = 20 instead of average bit rate as well. These are settings that are known working on mine and other devices.
Try that and report back.
sassafras
How are you ripping the DVDs? If you're just re-converting the .VOB files, that might be the cause depending on if Handbrake can properly read the d2v info embed in VOB files and properly inverse-telecine the DVDs. This will explain why seems to play 2x faster as the timecode is not read properly by handbrake.
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Some things to try:
Go here build.handbrake.fr and download the latest SVN Handbrake GUI (Not CLI) and install it. It's possible that it is a bug in the latest official version that has been fixed.
Second, rather than using your own settings which may have inadvertently switched some switch - use the High Profile preset and encode this way. It should be automatic, but use Constant Quality = 20 instead of average bit rate as well. These are settings that are known working on mine and other devices.
Try that and report back.
sassafras
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I did 4 movies, one I ripped myself, the other 3 I've had for years which I downloaded. Aside from some granyness in the videos now (I'm going to re-try with the 2-pass encode) they played perfectly. Thank you!!
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How are you ripping the DVDs? If you're just re-converting the .VOB files, that might be the cause depending on if Handbrake can properly read the d2v info embed in VOB files and properly inverse-telecine the DVDs. This will explain why seems to play 2x faster as the timecode is not read properly by handbrake.
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Once I ripped the movie using AnyDVD, I'd throw it in to Handbrake and use the HighProfile setting. I'd set the aspect ratio to be the same as that of the movie, 2-pass encode with a turbo first pass, set the audio to be the 5.1 track as passthrough, no chapters, and the rest of the settings as the default for the profile. The original ripped videos play fine on my PC, and even the re-encoded ones played fine as well.