With source dropping for the dhd and how easy interoperability between our phones is do we need 2 different forums? Seems it would be easier on you guys if things merged.
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I agree. Now that the source is out it would make sense.
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it would be much easier for the DEVS which is more important. they wouldnt have to maintain 2 different threads for the same ROM, Theme or Kernel as well..
Very good point.
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so how do we initiate this or would the Mods even entertain this idea at this point since both forums have been established..
I suggest we work with the mods on this. I'll report my own thread to get some eyes on it.
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sounds like a plan..
yes please merge us!
I agree with this. There's a lot of threads I've seen today that are directing you to the DHD forum for further information/troubleshooting - why not make them the same rather than having to post everything twice, or making devs/users have to jump back and forth?
I have to disagree. I prefer the forums seperate.
I could care less what the people in Europe are doing with their Desire HDs. The Inspire is a US phone on AT&T. It has a seperate identity.
Keep in mind even though they are pretty much the same phone, they run on different networks, have different radio software, and are supported by different cell providers. People's experiences will be different than their European counterparts.
Please keep them seperate.
you do realize that almost everything in our forums are from the europe DHD forums right??? so why have 2?
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you do realize that almost everything in our forums are from the europe DHD forums right??? so why have 2?
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I think 2 just to keep it simpler. so that the threads arent filled with issues from the inspire in the desire thread and desire in an inspire thread.
if the dev part is merged to make it better for them is one thing, but you still need att specific sub forum for all the posts that are att specific.
The Dev secton right now is NOT the biggest part of this device forum, all the att specific issues are...
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if the dev part is merged to make it better for them is one thing, but you still need att specific sub forum for all the posts that are att specific.
The Dev secton right now is NOT the biggest part of this device forum, all the att specific issues are...
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A European ROM flashed with the kernel just released by apache14 works out of the box with no further user tweaking.
I have a feeling that all the rom chefs of Europe will be building their own kernels based on the source that dropped yesterday which is universal, and includes the variations to the American and Canadian DHDs.
I agree that a sub forum may be needed in General but not Dev.
yeah I'm not seeing anything that makes this device any different from the DHD device. The DHD forum isn't limited to 1 single carrier so i'm still not seeing your point of keeping it separate...
worst case scenario look at how the Motorola Milestone and Verizon Drioid forum is laid out.. maybe something similar
and besides the DEV section will start becoming the biggest part of our forums now that ROMS and Kernels are out
Also keep in mind that there are a lot of people who like me have no intention of rooting or modding their phone. So the DEV section is useless to people like me.
I used to jailbreak my iPhone for years, but got bored doing it. The only reason I flashed a custom ROM on my Captivate was cause you had to, being that the stock 2.1 was terrible.
Currently outside of the fact that the back speaker is terrible on the Inspire, I am completely happy the way the phone is. I don't feel I need to flash custom ROMs to get a phone to work the way it should. The Inspire currently works just dandy.
So don't assume everyone is into modding.
there is always the search function. That always helps. Besides where as I know that not ALL people root and load custom roms there are a good portion that do and since that is what the majority do on XDA (D=Developers) then I don't know how relevant your argument is on that one.
did you look at the motorola forum I previously mentioned to you?
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Also keep in mind that there are a lot of people who like me have no intention of rooting or modding their phone. So the DEV section is useless to people like me.
I used to jailbreak my iPhone for years, but got bored doing it. The only reason I flashed a custom ROM on my Captivate was cause you had to, being that the stock 2.1 was terrible.
Currently outside of the fact that the back speaker is terrible on the Inspire, I am completely happy the way the phone is. I don't feel I need to flash custom ROMs to get a phone to work the way it should. The Inspire currently works just dandy.
So don't assume everyone is into modding.
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Why are you using this forum then? No offense but if I wasn't in to modding my device I would use another less development oriented one like androidforum or something. Most people on xda DEVELOPERS are into development. But I am with you on keeping the dhd and inspire forums separate or at least the dev sections and my only logic on that is because of the sound issues but if the source being released fixes this than I guess there's no point. As far as general I could care less.......
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Why are you using this forum then? No offense but if I wasn't in to modding my device I would use another less development oriented one like androidforum or something. Most people on xda DEVELOPERS are into development. But I am with you on keeping the dhd and inspire forums separate or at least the dev sections and my only logic on that is because of the sound issues but if the source being released fixes this than I guess there's no point. As far as general I could care less.......
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Although I am not really into custom ROMs, I still think this is a great forum to hang out. Plus I think you get a more mature crowd on here who are a bit more techie oriented.
I also read on Androidforums.com and like how they have a separate section for every phone. I think it works, but then again on there I don't think you get the same kind of conversations as you get on here.
As far as what Gunny said, I don't really see a lot of DesireHD stuff in the general section of the Inspire forum. I am sure you do in the DEV section, but so far almost all the threads I see in here are all about the Inspire.
i would be curious to add a poll to this thread.. so far I am only seeing 1 maybe 2 people that may not agree. I'd love to see what general consensus states...
I would like to know who wants to post their roms over at neopeek so as to start a thread over there too.
I would like to start seeing CM ports for Defy.
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I would like to know who wants to post their roms over at neopeek so as to start a thread over there too.
I would like to start seeing CM ports for Defy.
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Hi there,
Sorry to sound a bit negative here, but why would anyone want to do that? We already have a superb structured forum with all the available roms for the defy here and the most common ones are being regularly developed and tweaked by some top guys.
I have just taken a quick look at neopeek (as i hadnt heard of it before), and when you drill down into Android Forum Android Roms / Android Porting Android ROMs it falls into a totally disorganised mess.
The XDA Developers Forum is the best available by a mile! (a totally different league to the rest).
Andy
ive had a droid for a month or so. i was a big blackberry guy and have heard all the great things about droid so i used my upgrade for a droidx. ive been told this is the forum to really get the most out of you droid. i am semi literate with this phone (not nearly as much so as my blackberry) but won't the most out of it ... how should i start, what should i do / download. i want a fast different look that my otr droid friends will be envious of
thanks for the help
new member,
jgo113
Hi, welcome to the forum!
It can be massively overwhelming for new users here to know what is acheivable and what isn't, especially if you're not too familiar with the OS on the device you are using.
I would suggest getting to know the forum and learning which sections are relevant to you first. Browse around for a while and read some guides. What really helped me was to focus on the 'Post your Home Screen', screenshot type threads where people showed what they had done with their own phones. This way you can see what is acheivable and start leaning how to get there yourself.
FAQ/Guides/Wiki stickies are a good resource and are found in most of the forums.
Well for starters decide if you want to root your phone or not - read about what's that about, how does it "liberate" your device (AND YOU) from the tyranny of evil phone produces, just how badly you can break your device (the warnings), etc. After that you can begin trying different ROMs (custom firmwares) for your device, until you find the one, that suits your needs. Then learn BASH and begin writing scripts, hacking the living hell out of your device...
...or just use a custom "launcher" app, if you literally want your phone to look different. You can find some at the Market.
PS: Either way remember, the search bar is your friend. Before posting check if anybody has asked the same question - at least 95% of cases you'll find more about your problem/question, just by searching.
I've looked high and low and cannot find the NS4G thread that is similar to this one for the Nexus S :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13556812&postcount=2
Am I missing something or is there none? I keep coming back here trying to get and idea of the newest roms and just get confused with the wall of text in the NS4G dev forums.
Pretty sure that's the only one, it even says that most of those are compatible with our 4G's.
PS: All of those aren't really "new" anymore, most of the new ROMS are on page 1&2 of the development section, after that most of the pages have been abandoned . Trust me at first its really confusing to look at every thread but once you flash most of them you find which ones you like and just stick with those few
I'm running baseband version from 07-15-2011
and rom Bionix Reloaded v1.4.1
Not saying I dont like it but I dont see any new roms that I can try
I really dont know know how to what cm roms are besides the name. and no idea what port roms are.
no gingerbread roms have been updated or made since last year from what I can tell by the Ref guild listed on the front of Development and im not sure how to or if it is a good idea to upgrade to ICS
any advice?
Seems like you're new to modding, I highly suggest you stay with the ROM you're running if nothing is wrong (don't fix what's not broken).
If you decide to flash other stuff,PLEASE for the sake of everyone,READ READ and READ some more. Abuse Google to find out what cm7 stands for and other terms you don't know.
Don't assume
Yeah I've got a lot of problems with the phone (most are described on"Google" as problems with this model). And like my past phones changing the Rom changes/fixes the problem because good developers know how to fix problems. Yet by the list, nothing looks new and exciting. Sorry I've only dealt with roms and rooting along with minor other things.
I believe the benefit of a forum is to be correctly informed. Info on Google may not always be up to date and or correctly relate to you. That's why I ask questions (only an idiot acts without thinking) in a forum about my phone so people with the same phone can input not disregard. Searching on this site doesn't answer basic questions. Out of all my other phones I work on this site does how ever have topics that keep me informed vs having to go over pages looking for Rom updates.
If there was another forum that specialized in my phone and was as knowledgeable I would go there. But as far as I have found, most sites just use links/content from this one.
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Also, don't use the reference guide, manually go into the development forum and look around.
The reference guide tends to be outdated.
Some developers also use rootzwiki as their forum, mainly faux, so be sure to check there too.