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Task / Switcher Bar

Hello
I'm obviously new here and glad to find a place where I can find out more about my xda2s.
One quick question I hope someone can answer - on my old Dell x3 there was a fantastic 'Switcher Bar' appearing at the top of the screen, which when pressed would show what programs were currently open, and allowed you to then close them, therefore saving memory etc etc.
I know there is the task manager on the xda2s but I cannot get an icon for it; one that will stay constantly there. Any ideas or is it simple not possible.
Thanks in advance
HPJ

install the attached file, it will give you 2 new icons. one on the top which will show battery status and the second icon at the buttom which will show running programs.
hope this is what you are looking for. :wink:

ammar said:
install the attached file, it will give you 2 new icons. one on the top which will show battery status and the second icon at the buttom which will show running programs.
hope this is what you are looking for. :wink:
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that's great, thank you. I've installed it into Program Files> Task Bar> (all the unzippped files) but it hasn't done anything.....how do I activate it?
Many thanks
HPJ

you dont unzip it
you sync it to the pda and run it then it install what needs to be installed
personaly i use PHM Task Manager
which is pretty much the same as the task manager in windows(pc)

Still cant do it....I need more practise obviously.
Whats the PHM Manager like in WindowsPC (I know how to use that at least.....)
Thanks
HPJ

here is what it's like and look like
http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/TaskMgr/
well when you doubleclick on a cab file you should see a progress bar often it's gon before you know it and then the program should have been autoinstalled and have an icon in programs

HPJ said:
Still cant do it....I need more practise obviously.
Thanks
HPJ
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man just copy the file as it is to your pocket pc then click on it .
Thats it.

Thanks guys sorry to be a pain......you gotta start somewhere :wink:

Dosn't work with WM6 on a HTS x7501
Not surprising

WM6.5 Start Menu

Okay,
I may stand alone here, but I HATE the new start menu that comes with WM6.5.
Does anyone know of a way to get rid of it and go back to the functional old style one from WM6.1?
Thanks
DT

try using Quickmenu.

Aegishua said:
try using Quickmenu.
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Links:
QuickMenu 2.8 from China!!!Best start-menu and task-switcher[UPDATE 02-03-2009]
&
Some Tips of Using QuickMenu.
Also I assume there should be some regitweaks to re-activate the classic StartMenu, keep searching and post here!

Start -> Settings -> Today
Click on the 'Items' tab at the bottom.
Uncheck 'Windows Default' to get rid of the crappy sliding menu, and while you are here, select the options you want on the Today page, and arrange them in whatever order you require.
Click OK until you are back at the Today Start page.
Viola!

how can i reorder positions of new today screen(titanium)..so i want that clock is first...

benko286 said:
how can i reorder positions of new today screen(titanium)..so i want that clock is first...
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You can't do it.
The new menu is selected as 'Windows Default'. When it is selected, it unchecks all the others.
It's all or nothing. Old menu style and move stuff about, or new menu style but you are stuck with its layout.

you havent understand, in windows default(actually i like this new home screen) i want to reoreder "tabs", first is picture(it says no photos because i dont know how to change default folder in pictures and videos) second music....and i want that first is clock than text than music than pictures...
so i dont want to change order of old homescreen, i want to change order in new win default home screen!!

It can only be done through a registry tweak.
Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\CHome
And change keyname ExtensibilityXML to
<Plugins Order="CClock;CMyPhotos;CMusic;CWelcomeCenter;CPhone;CVoicemail;CText;CEmail;CAppointments;CHomeFavs;CWindowsLive" CPRFileName="Titanium" DisplayStyle="Titanium" />
Or similar, depending on what is in it in the first place.
Go to Start -> Settings -> Today -> 'Items', uncheck 'Windows Default' and press OK (To deactivate it)
Go to Start -> Settings -> Today -> 'Items', and check 'Windows default' then press OK (To restart it)
The Clock is now at the top!
P.S. This was discovered by messing around with the 6.5 emulator images, and using VS remote tools to read/edit the emulator's registry. Just check the keys on a real phone are the same or similar.

danke schon

Or Dotfred's Start Menu which runs as a service. No .exe to start.Running from the start button.

I´m quite happy with start menu of 6.5 you can reorder it or what ever you want
But also htchome is nice and less RAM eating!

Hi
I like the new wm 6.5 start menu, But is there any way to change the hexagon shape icon arrangements to straight rows.

tvk24 said:
Hi
I like the new wm 6.5 start menu, But is there any way to change the hexagon shape icon arrangements to straight rows.
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It seems to be not very easy to skin / change anything on the today screen / startmenu on WM6.5

d_train said:
Okay,
I may stand alone here, but I HATE the new start menu that comes with WM6.5.
Does anyone know of a way to get rid of it and go back to the functional old style one from WM6.1?
Thanks
DT
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may i ask for same thing,
AGAIN?
i mean - old wm 5-6 menu method?
if someone doensn't know - 2 mb mem is lost by that new..by that fail.
lets say i need these 2 mb.
i am not interested in cpr edits - it is not that idea(cutting cpr insides off provides these 2 mb, BUT - it is not good idea).
do not tell me about quick menu - i am using it since i found it, but - again - IT IS NOT the idea - 2 mb is lost by that ridiculous m$ menu, still.
old shell32 and aygshell is not method too - provides instability and functions loss.
i checked EVERY line of dlls related to find potential clue, there is NO reg value in hexes that provides old menu there....
sad to see, that cotulla stopped working on it...
i assume, it may be something not really possible, then. ;/

nothin said:
may i ask for same thing,
AGAIN?
i mean - old wm 5-6 menu method?
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Forget 6.5 and stay on 6.0(1)

hendrixus said:
Forget 6.5 and stay on 6.0(1)
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dude, plz..i am rommaker,
i can clearly see why i want what i want - 6.5 provides outstanding flash(vide - flashtros, cracktros) experience i need;
it provides amazing performance of emulators i am using(snes, sega, atari xl, neogeo etc).
it provides very good pdf and cbr loading times too.
my question is clearly technical.
i am using asus p525 and i can UNDERCLOCK it to (still) have 100% snes emulation with maxxed out sound on 23017(try this on htc lol), it is amazing, trust me.
i need that power, BUT i need more RAM free.
i got rid of every thing i could like titanium, keyboards, wisplite, useless m$ today plugins, and much more, and i still need MOAR memory free.
of course, if someone knows, how to make wm03 mem management available to use with 6.x, i would be pleased hearing it...
then i could have 80 mb mem free, not 29 ffs.
are there GOOD maniacs to tell me some NOT common ideas?
xdadev been such place...long time ago.
btw - my m8 made THIS(yes, it is 6.5, and, yes it is OLD menu ;p, but..disadvantages of method used made it just proof of concept):

nothin said:
dude, plz..i am rommaker,
i can clearly see why i want what i want - 6.5 provides outstanding flash(vide - flashtros, cracktros) experience i need;
it provides amazing performance of emulators i am using(snes, sega, atari xl, neogeo etc).
it provides very good pdf and cbr loading times too.
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Well Dude. I don't care about emulators, games and so on. If you can come up with some interesting featues of 6.5 I 'll be glad to read about it.Hmm. I just started to make a ROM too, 6.5 I din't like it.
btw - my m8 made THIS(yes, it is 6.5, and, yes it is OLD menu ;p, but..disadvantages of method used made it just proof of concept):
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That's nice the old menu on 6.5

i think you misunderstood that topic - is it about NEW, COOL FEATURES of 6.5, lol?
nope. so stop, plz. lets stick to topic.
. I don't care
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it's obvious, ;p
I like the new wm 6.5 start menu, But is there any way to change the hexagon shape icon arrangements to straight rows.
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yes, it is. just look for it on xdadev somewhere...

nothin said:
i think you misunderstood that topic - is it about NEW, COOL FEATURES of 6.5, lol?
nope. so stop, plz. lets stick to topic.
it's obvious, ;p
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.............about games and emulators.
yes, it is. just look for it on xdadev somewhere...
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At least you found a way to resurrect the old menu style.
More menu stuff here and here

Nothin,
Me too already stuck on the same issue for a while.
By now what I know is:
You can kill the WM65 start menu in several ways, like using WkTask or MagicButton, or null the cpr.
But once you kill it you must have a replacment, otherwise will lose UI. By now QuickMenu is still best replacement.
I've only noticed that on some Samsung Ominia devices running earlier builds of WM65 they can recall the WM61 classic start menu by a start.exe.
I've asked somebody to upload that file with no response.
I've also downloaded several ROMs from Modaco, but I can not use HTC ROM Emige Editor toeextract files from them.
For more info and thread links, please just search for my post in the past month.

Anyway to have HTC Start Menu with TF3D OFF?

I really like the new start menu but I'd love to be able to access it when I have TF3D unticked. Any ideas on wether this is possible or is it too much a part of TF3D to separate out?
Thanks

WMguy said:
I really like the new start menu but I'd love to be able to access it when I have TF3D unticked. Any ideas on wether this is possible or is it too much a part of TF3D to separate out?
Thanks
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I would like some of the other touchflow stuff like the contacts as well. But like you i dont want to use TF3D.

I do not think this is possible.
The start-menu is an sort of tab of TouchFlo, which needs TouchFlo to be launched.
What you could try is TouchFlo Detacher (use search function), it allows you to switch between the default windows mobile Today screen and touchflo, in this case TouchFlo is running (if you hide it instead of closing, option of TFdetacher)
Just an idea, not sure if it works, but you can give it a try..

I have the Attach one installation and work like a charm.

Ddriver said:
I have the Attach one installation and work like a charm.
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Thanks Mr Q.
@Ddriver, what does the cab do?

WMguy said:
I really like the new start menu but I'd love to be able to access it when I have TF3D unticked. Any ideas on wether this is possible or is it too much a part of TF3D to separate out?
Thanks
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I don't know whether this solves your problem. I installed AT0mAng & Danny_and_2 TF3D2 Tweak app. And i used Start Menu Off option and it worked for me.

Wow, there it is what i was searching for such a long time.

Task manager

I have bought my HTC HD2 and i cant activate the task manager on the main screen....any help ? idea ?

Yeah pin the Task Manager to the quick links.
HTC Task Manager is disabled on HD2 probably because it slows Sense down

heromilkshake said:
Yeah pin the Task Manager to the quick links.
HTC Task Manager is disabled on HD2 probably because it slows Sense down
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Don't know how to pin it
can't find it

HTC Task
Tried the latest I found (HTC Tachi TaskManager 2.1.37655.1.cab),
but it does not work for me...
Simply everything I try does not work

Have You tried to pin the standard windows task manager to, for example, the answer call hardware key? I've done that in my TD2. You should be able to do this via phone settings->buttons or something (haven't seen wm6.5 yet)

try installing Duttys Task Manager 2.1.19183631

well, about this, anyone knows any taskbar manager that can use in every program to change from one to other without going to the main screen and then change?
Like the taskbar manager but on all screens, main and programs.
I really hate that "feature" of need to go to the main to select other program.

I really hate that "feature" of need to go to the main to select other program.
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I'll have to agree with you there. It sounds strange that the multi tasking isn't build more, well, multi tasking in mind.
I'm probably getting this device next week and would be really interested to know if there's any way to do this faster, like bringing the task manager up with one press of key etc (like I asked in another topic too).
Edit... And got a reply too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4901571#post4901571

[email protected] said:
try installing Duttys Task Manager 2.1.19183631
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Happy me, Duttys staff works :]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4857930&postcount=46
Enjoy.

Vlk_77 said:
Happy me, Duttys staff works :]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4857930&postcount=46
Enjoy.
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Didnt work for me.

This works:
- Go the file explorer
- Open "My Device/Windows"
- Find Task manager (taskmgr) and press long on this file so the file menu opens and select copy.
- Go to "My Device/Windows/Startmenu/Programs.
- Go to menu and paste shortcut.
- Now you can also add the shortcut to your today screen.
Greetz

^Brilliant
Thanks
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rob_van_triet said:
This works:
- Go the file explorer
- Open "My Device/Windows"
- Find Task manager (taskmgr) and press long on this file so the file menu opens and select copy.
- Go to "My Device/Windows/Startmenu/Programs.
- Go to menu and paste shortcut.
- Now you can also add the shortcut to your today screen.
Greetz
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Wow, that is brilliant indeed.
Had no idea that particular task manager was even there or existed.
Nice find.

Damn, that's a nice find, tried the one from dutty but also without any result.
Thanks a million : )

very annoing this find, can not activate my progs. used this trick this weekend.
Dutty's Taskmanager works for me in combination with the brian's taskbar.

Hamidxa said:
Didnt work for me.
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uncheck HTC Sense, install Dutty's cab, soft reset, check HTC Sense!

Thx perfect...

[email protected] said:
uncheck HTC Sense, install Dutty's cab, soft reset, check HTC Sense!
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Thanks for the tip, and I tried doing that both before and yet again, but it's a no go.
It still doesn't play nice with certain builds. You can sort of make out the task manager icon in the upper right hand corner, but you can't click on it.
The solution posted above by rob_van_triet though works perfectly for now.

Working but Icon ?
Ok placing a shortcut of taskmgr in the start menu folder works fine.
But if you use this as a tab on the start screen it looks all blury.
Some help please ?

Do you know where is the setting for the task manager so that I could change "tapping X in the upper right corner" to "close the app" and not to "minimize it".
It seems that the whole Touch Flo settings has disappeared.
edit: just read the other thread about the task manager and it answered my question.

Sense 2.5 program picker as start menu?

Hi!
I don't like the default WM 6.5 "honeycomb" start menu. Would it be possible in some way to use the Sense 2.5 program picker (the one used for adding programs to the quick launch list in manila 2.5) as a program launcher? And ideally even bind it to the windows hardware button?
Regards,
PK

sorry, don't know how to do that (although it would be nice)
however -- quickmenu is a useful alternative -- and it can be assigned to the hardware "win" key...

gwbard said:
sorry, don't know how to do that (although it would be nice)
however -- quickmenu is a useful alternative -- and it can be assigned to the hardware "win" key...
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nice, very nice where did u get it

paalkr said:
Hi!
I don't like the default WM 6.5 "honeycomb" start menu. Would it be possible in some way to use the Sense 2.5 program picker (the one used for adding programs to the quick launch list in manila 2.5) as a program launcher? And ideally even bind it to the windows hardware button?
Regards,
PK
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I'm doing this exact program mate. It will need to be run in conjunction with Co0kie's Home Tab v1.7+ though, and that's not released yet.
It'll be out within the next couple of weeks though, unless anything changes.
The only thing it won't do is bind to the windows button, but you could just put it as a quicklink on your home tab instead.

paalkr said:
Hi!
I don't like the default WM 6.5 "honeycomb" start menu. Would it be possible in some way to use the Sense 2.5 program picker (the one used for adding programs to the quick launch list in manila 2.5) as a program launcher? And ideally even bind it to the windows hardware button?
Regards,
PK
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Take a look at http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/manila-program-launcher-as-start-menu-for-sense-25

johncmolyneux said:
I'm doing this exact program mate. It will need to be run in conjunction with Co0kie's Home Tab v1.7+ though, and that's not release yet.
It'll be out within the next couple of weeks though, unless anything changes.
The only thing it won't do is bind to the windows button, but you could just put it as a quicklink on your home tab instead.
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Nice! I hope its the one with the "matrix" layout.
But why isn't it possible to bind it to the w-button. Is it a design decision? Or is it a implementation contraint?

appelflap said:
Nice! I hope its the one with the "matrix" layout.
But why isn't it possible to bind it to the w-button. Is it a design decision? Or is it a implementation contraint?
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Well after reading your previous post I won't be doing it, since it's already there!
Nice find mate. You've saved me some dev work

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Take a look at http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/manila-program-launcher-as-start-menu-for-sense-25
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Hi!
Have you tried it? I did, and it did not seem to work properly. Only slowed down everything. I tried installing on the latest x-treme ROM (6.5.x). Both the windows soft button and tha hardware button stopped working after install.
@johncmolyneux: I hope you continue to develop your app.

paalkr said:
Hi!
Have you tried it? I did, and it did not seem to work properly. Only slowed down everything. I tried installing on the latest x-treme ROM (6.5.x). Both the windows soft button and tha hardware button stopped working after install.
@johncmolyneux: I hope you continue to develop your app.
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Heh - okay. I'll bear it in mind for when the next release of Co0kie's Home Tab comes out.