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I am after any help to get my prophets camera video recording (which stutters like crazy and misses most frames) working to an exceptable level.
The basic photo quality from the camera is ok however its just the video recording
For the record, I have tried and tested CoolCamera v1.15 (and previous incarnations/versions) but CoolCamera doesn't work well at all on my Prophet and even the photo side of the software gives a bad image result.
I am currently using a G4 Prophet, ASURG v3.3.13 ROM which is the best out of all of those that I have tried.
So, what I am after is any help / relevant advice or information on what to do to enhance the video capabilities.
I use a fast 4GB MMS card which is NOT the problem as far as I am aware as I have not only tried saving a video recording internally but have also tested various ultra cards from 64mb,250mb right up to a 1gb for saving onto and its just as bad.
I have tried many patches (cab update types from various operators etc)
I have not come across any registry tweaks so am interested to hear if anyone has any they know of.
I have a feeling it maybe something to do with a combination of the relatively low CPU speed of the Prophet and perhaps the seemingly low quality sensor and camera chip? Incidentally, I've also increased and decreased the core clock speed using omapclock software but that makes no difference either.
Any help would be greatly appreciated as I use the device for EVERYTHING. Its with me 24hours a day and is used primarily for taking spur of the moment photos for work.
PS: For the record I have also checked 'xda-Dev' and left a post for help to (I haven't found anything relevant to this problem anywhere to be honest which I find strange.)
Surely I am not alone with this problem.
Thanks in advance of any help
Nicholas
I have nothing to say, use these tips for a little improvements
1. Update to Rom 2.20 and over clock to 204 MHz.
2. Use more light in the office.
3. Try 50 Hz flicker adjustment
I'm using now N80 the colors are not as Jamin but much movement for video inside, get on for your office
Thanks anyway....
Thanks but have already tried 2.20 with no difference. I started off with 2.20. Variable flicker adjustments have never made a difference either and I get the same result inside or outside. colors are very vivid and acceptable too. Its just the video recording quality I am looking to fix / better.
Video jumps and stutters during recording (every few seconds) at present to the point that I have to discard every video made on the phone.
Thanks all the same for replying.
I have very good Camera outdoor, in the sunlight, maybe ur device has a problem
well, erm thanks for that.
Cool Camera
Try coolcamera app. this is so much better than the original
othillo said:
Try coolcamera app. this is so much better than the original
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thanks but please read first post !!
A solution for you...
Hi m8,
What you need to do is this:-
1. Flash your phone back to a decent ROM such as the last QTek AKU 2.20 release. (All the other WM6, AKU3+ etc. etc. ROM's you might find are basically CRAP, although Jesterz AKU2.20 ROM is also a keeper in my opinion!!)
2. Then you need to overclock your phone to approx. 234MHz with the "Batterystatus" plugin (A very nice little app. that you should always have on your phone! - Search this Forum to find the app. d/l link!)
3. Unfortunatley, the AKU2.2 Camera Driver cannot handle the aforementioned overclock speed and gives you green pixels all over the screen, so you need to download and install the following older version of the Camera Driver, from here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31808&d=1165275264
4. Soft reset your phone after installing the driver and BINGO, Camera now runs like a charm in both still and in video modes!
I hope this helps... let me know if you need clarification of anything or if for some reason this doesn't work for you!
Cheers, Moz.
Thanks friend.
Thats one of the roms i was using last month. Its stable and reliable but still had problems. As for over clocking I use OMAP overclocking app and add shortcut to startup. I was told not to over clock ever if I want a decent camera result but will try once more. I appreciate your advice. Thanks.
Worse thing happened yesterday...my Prophet speaker died. So I have been told to phone up to arrange a replacement on Wednesday. I didn't know that the Prophet was renowned for having a speaker problem every so often and that many other people had had to get replacements because of this.
Oh well. Will wait till new one arrives and see how good the video is on it.
Thanks again
Hi again,
Sounds like your Prophet experience has been pretty much a mirror image of mine... I think we will ALL get the speaker problem sooner or later... these particular handsets seem rather badly built to me! I simply replaced my failed speaker with one from an old SPV E100 I had lying around, and now the ringtones and sound playback from the unit is awesome - Can't beat the old phones for build qualitt!! (...and I got my Jamin from Ebay for 60 quid so it was easy to take a risk in pulling it apart!!)
As for the fix I described previously, the Omap overclock will work equally well (I just find the Batterystatus app. more flexible). The Jesterz ROM is defo one of the most stable out there and if you want to use your device as a proper business/workhorse mobile phone rather than just a gimicky toy like most of the kids on here, then it (or the proper Qtek AKU 2.20) are the *only* ROMs worth considering.
Your previous advice concerning not overclocking for the Camera is essentially correct, hence the need to downgrade the driver in order to attain the required performance!!
When you get your replacement unit from Orange, I would simply try the Overclock to 234MHz then install the Driver fix I posted on top of whatever standard ROM it comes with... I'm sure you will see the improvement in video you are seeking - it works for me anyway!
(Nice website you have there, by the way... had a quick nosey and just thought I'd say! )
Rgds, Moz.
Cheers Mozzerr
Sound Mozzerr.
Took ALL what you were saying. Am checking new replacement now. Came this morning. I love Orange. I was really peed off at first as insurance had been taken off a year ago without my asking. Could have been an oversight on my part am not quite sure, but it nearly cost me a replacement phone. Was getting VERY worried as first told during two separate calls to two 'O' reps that HTC were going to have to fix the problem and that would be down TO ME!!!! cheek of it.
Anyway. Orange came up trumps in the end so am not here to knock them as they've been more than good to me in the past.
Anyway, am now off to play with the camera and see what gives.
Glad you like the site and thanks
How in the world could the same battery of 1620mAh running on an operating system (WM2005) with a reasonable time and then running under a later operating system (WM6) -which's supposed to be better one- drain like anything!!
I have not seen anyone under this forum praised power mngmt using WM6!!
I wonder how could the later PPC models with lesser battery capacity (1350mAh) run for a longer period than Universal!? How could the same CPU been used in two different models running under two separate OS have better power mngmt?
Is't a false battery meter reading? Is't a false battery threshold that's is required for WM6 that the OS is misinterpreting or misreading? Is't a processing power and running-in-the-background apps?
Could someone explain and perhaps hack the codes of commands for the power mngmt? I mean we are fed up guys
Someone has to handle this...
Cheers
WM6 & Battery Issue
Cyber-mate said:
How in the world could the same battery of 1620mAh running on an operating system (WM2005) with a reasonable time and then running under a later operating system (WM6) -which's supposed to be better one- drain like anything!!
I have not seen anyone under this forum praised power mngmt using WM6!!
I wonder how could the later PPC models with lesser battery capacity (1350mAh) run for a longer period than Universal!? How could the same CPU been used in two different models running under two separate OS have better power mngmt?
Is't a false battery meter reading? Is't a false battery threshold that's is required for WM6 that the OS is misinterpreting or misreading? Is't a processing power and running-in-the-background apps?
Could someone explain and perhaps hack the codes of commands for the power mngmt? I mean we are fed up guys
Someone has to handle this...
Cheers
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I strongly agree with you...am experiencing the same.
something is problem with WM6 & Universal.
Hope this Main issue will be solved with the upcoming WM6 builds
Really wondered why none of our friends raised this issue, infact i was waiting for a message like this......
thanks
Bye
Hate to break it to you guys but this has been discussed before,
here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311168&highlight=battery
and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310078&highlight=battery
and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306064&highlight=battery
and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302193&highlight=battery
The general consensus was that the flashing process can sometimes screw up the bettery's sensors, giving false reading of being fully charged or at a certain percent.
THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM WITH WM6
Look through the above links, some have good suggestions on how to fix this issue
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Hate to break it to you guys but this has been discussed before,
here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311168&highlight=battery
and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310078&highlight=battery
and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306064&highlight=battery
and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302193&highlight=battery
The general consensus was that the flashing process can sometimes screw up the bettery's sensors, giving false reading of being fully charged or at a certain percent.
THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM WITH WM6
Look through the above links, some have good suggestions on how to fix this issue
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Okay TehPenguin. After carefully reading those posts, most have agreed that it is the ROM to blame!! How come man? If others said it is hardware related, some said it is the battery life itself!
I am raising a question here. Have anyone tried replacing the .dll and other battery related files to find out whether it is the coding? Remember when Uni. was first introduced and iMate patched the battery justifying the battery drain? Then it could be the same?
Now, most of the other devices in this forum had an upgrade, anyone encountered the same with their respective device likewise Uni?
The floor is open...
If it is the ROM, then why are only some people affected?
I will concede that it may be possible that it is the combination of the ROM and particular hardware (which causes some weird stuff to happen, like my device's phone radio does not like Ivan's base)
What I recommend you do is contact all of the people who have been having issues with their batteries and find out:
What brand they have
What radio and bootloader versions they have
What particular version of the battery they have
The age of their device\battery
If you notice a correlation then thats something we can work with.
If you just claim "It the ROM" and the developers don't see any issue in their devices, then they will dismiss your claim.
(btw. I have no doubt that your battery is draining fast, you just shouldn't be so quick to blame the software. As I have said before, batteries have a complex mix of chemicals that store power, the reaction that occurs in these chemicals is affected by a lot of factors...)
Happy hunting!
TehPenguin said:
If it is the ROM, then why are only some people affected?
I will concede that it may be possible that it is the combination of the ROM and particular hardware (which causes some weird stuff to happen, like my device's phone radio does not like Ivan's base)
What I recommend you do is contact all of the people who have been having issues with their batteries and find out:
What brand they have
What radio and bootloader versions they have
What particular version of the battery they have
The age of their device\battery
If you notice a correlation then thats something we can work with.
If you just claim "It the ROM" and the developers don't see any issue in their devices, then they will dismiss your claim.
(btw. I have no doubt that your battery is draining fast, you just shouldn't be so quick to blame the software. As I have said before, batteries have a complex mix of chemicals that store power, the reaction that occurs in these chemicals is affected by a lot of factors...)
Happy hunting!
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Ooooh! Tedious job man!! As for points (1 & 4), it is out of our reach. Whereas points (2 & 3), then definitely it is the bootloader & radio! Do you notice that OEM providers -I expect so- thoroughly test their devices before releasing and many factors are considered out of which Radio & Bootloader are tested and then they RECOMMEND the combination of the appropriate radio & bootloader versions!
In this forum, or more specifically, the restless ones cant wait to retrieve feedback from the market with regards to upgrades!! Any radio version gets released, we upgrade! Any bootloader gets released, we upgrade, and then we start to nag and complaint!!
I have gut feeling it is surely the radio and the processing mechanism! I want someone who have used the Uni for PPc only and not turned the radio nor wifi for days and watched how the battery drains! If it did not affect, then bingo! Otherwise I do apologize for having misjudged.
Mind you, I have not got any TECHNICAL explanation on the hardware and processing power part
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Ooooh! Tedious job man!! As for points (1 & 4), it is out of our reach. Whereas points (2 & 3), then definitely it is the bootloader & radio! Do you notice that OEM providers -I expect so- thoroughly test their devices before releasing and many factors are considered out of which Radio & Bootloader are tested and then they RECOMMEND the combination of the appropriate radio & bootloader versions!
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A more tedious job is to compare registry hives and files looking for a bug that doesn't affect your own device...
I don't see how points 1 & 4 are out of reach. If people just post here what brand (I-Mate, Dopod, O2, etc) thats number 1 solved. As for number 4, just remove the battery cover and look for the model number (for instance This one has the model number "PU16A") - again post results here
Cyber-mate said:
In this forum, or more specifically, the restless ones cant wait to retrieve feedback from the market with regards to upgrades!! Any radio version gets released, we upgrade! Any bootloader gets released, we upgrade, and then we start to nag and complaint!!
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Some people nag and complain, some people revert back to the old version and some people fix things. You have to ask yourself which one are you? And which one you should be...
Cyber-mate said:
I have gut feeling it is surely the radio and the processing mechanism! I want someone who have used the Uni for PPc only and not turned the radio nor wifi for days and watched how the battery drains! If it did not affect, then bingo! Otherwise I do apologize for having misjudged.
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Now this I like!!!
Good hypothesis, and a good test. Now all we need is someone to do the test.
Having thought of the above thing, can you see how it would be better to say to the develpers (and comminity) that devices made by xxxx running radio 1.xx have high battery drain...
The whole point of collecting statistics is to notice patterns. From these patterns we can derive hypothesis that can then be tested
Cyber-mate said:
Mind you, I have not got any TECHNICAL explanation on the hardware and processing power part
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Anything you would like to know, just ask!!
Whew Ask me mate
Suddenly my JJ which was working perfectly alright
Refuses to go beyond 40% battery life
And it could be coz i upgraded individually from here and there
I have decided I am goin for a new rom
and following the instructs to the letter
WIshing myself luck
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i have dopod 900, Radio 1.15, bootloader 1.1
i first had battery shutdown @80% when i installed jw's rom no offense man, i've tried other WM6 Midget, PDAViet, Ivan's etc... and liked Helmi_c v1.1 (i tried battery drain and full recharge 4 times) but still experiencing shutdowns until i've installed Laurentius v4 i'm down to 25% battery consumption now and the battery drains ok. i still don't know if its the ff:
1.) the ROM
2.) maybe battery is healing itself...
3.) maybe this rom is just compatible with my device...
4.) maybe none of the above or all of the above
(of course i cannot account for other circumstances like weather change or airconditioning) good news is, i'm gonna buy bluetooth stereo headset instead of a new battery!
hope this helps
ethansun
almerchant said:
Suddenly my JJ which was working perfectly alright
Refuses to go beyond 40% battery life
And it could be coz i upgraded individually from here and there
I have decided I am goin for a new rom
and following the instructs to the letter
WIshing myself luck
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...okay! I do not like this part to discredit anyone coz many of those ROM gurus have worked really hard and harder than one could imagine. ROM related battery drain is a very disappointing part.
I cant imagine that someone would pinpoint a particular ROM developed by xxx and say it is the culprit, which will lead to many -including myself- to despise that particular one!!
However, a constructive feedback and HONEST is the key. Let us wait -but not too long- and only YOU will tell us what is wrong
Awaiting...
Radio & drain!
Haven't anyone noticed that most members who have upgraded radio to 1.15 sent feedback that the signal is always full and no obvious issue to talk about!!
Well, the previous radio versions such as 1.14, 1.13, even 1.09 -which I liked then- had tremendous complaints about signal strength and other issues. Com'n people! It is definitely the radio and no one had talked about it.
While my device is on stand-by mode, it is suck up the battery power to compensate the signal weakness, therefore radio 1.15 being the best so far, is the lousiest in terms of power mngmt! I certainly have no technical evidence, yet it is left up to you to find out.
Please read my posting (#13, #14 & #18) again, especially #18
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306064&page=2&highlight=battery
How well Radio ROM performed is again very much depend on location and service provider, I can beg till my last dollar on this.
Anyway for me, I find that actually Radio 1.15.00 last longer than the previous Radios with the same battery, same M$ ROM. Although Radio 1.14.10 is not too bad.
Once again, please do not jump into conclusion like what I did before (which happen to be my first ever post in this forum) which will misled many people who are lazy to search and read through.
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Haven't anyone noticed that most members who have upgraded radio to 1.15 sent feedback that the signal is always full and no obvious issue to talk about!!
Well, the previous radio versions such as 1.14, 1.13, even 1.09 -which I liked then- had tremendous complaints about signal strength and other issues. Com'n people! It is definitely the radio and no one had talked about it.
While my device is on stand-by mode, it is suck up the battery power to compensate the signal weakness, therefore radio 1.15 being the best so far, is the lousiest in terms of power mngmt! I certainly have no technical evidence, yet it is left up to you to find out.
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Well, I'm using 1.15 and it works fine. On top of that I live in a pretty remote place (being Australia and all), so my signal typically isn't too great...
Either way, statistically speaking, you need 30 data points (ie people) before you can claim anything. (Why 30? I don't know... But I almost had a Maths Degree from University (before switching to Computer Science) and thats what I was taught...)
Normally setting Radio to Manual instead of Auto and to GSM instead of 3G mode in weak signal area saves you significant battery drain (there is a technical explanation for this).
For me, I always set to GSM, only to 3G when needed, that is how I clocked 4 days with my battery "sometimes"
@TehPenguin
Err... Remote does not always equal bad signal. Some City area can have blind spots with weak signal too
TehPenguin said:
...you need 30 data points (ie people) before you can claim anything. (Why 30? I don't know... But I almost had a Maths Degree from University (before switching to Computer Science) and that's what I was taught...)
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Alright then. I am surely waiting for another 28 opinions (data points) and only then I/we can conclude.
TehPenguin/CWKJ, thanks for your contribution and making this debate a valuable one.
Cheers..
Nah, a poll for Radio ROM is meaningless as I repeat 1 more time that Radio Rom performance is depending on location and service provider.
hi!
After wandering through the main searchengines out there and having found nothing for my question, i hope somebody here can help...
The question itself is fairly simple:
Is there any way to compare the cpu of a pda phone with the cpu of a desktop pc in terms of speed?
Can i assume that 500mhz on a pda are the same as 500mhz on a desktop or am i missing an important part?
Thanks in advance as always.
Dont know about phones specificaly but in general you cannot compare MHz across processor brands or types. I highly doubt very much that you can compare directly a desktop v a phone.
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The question itself is fairly simple:
Is there any way to compare the cpu of a pda phone with the cpu of a desktop pc in terms of speed?
Can i assume that 500mhz on a pda are the same as 500mhz on a desktop
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In a nutshell No
The question is indeed fairly simple but the answer isnt as straight cut.
heres a basic yet informative explantion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megahertz_Myth
TheConfusedOne said:
hi!
After wandering through the main searchengines out there and having found nothing for my question, i hope somebody here can help...
The question itself is fairly simple:
Is there any way to compare the cpu of a pda phone with the cpu of a desktop pc in terms of speed?
Can i assume that 500mhz on a pda are the same as 500mhz on a desktop or am i missing an important part?
Thanks in advance as always.
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If your computer is running as fast (slow) as your PPC, then you may need a new one!
In a nutshell No
The question is indeed fairly simple but the answer isnt as straight cut.
heres a basic yet informative explantion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megahertz_Myth
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ok... thx for this... its a good start.
so basicly i cannot compare a pda with a desktop...
its a little hard to believe... yet you guys will surely have more expierience in this matter than me...
though... before i settle with this...
has there ever been some kind of benchmark to see how various tasks are being performed on ppc in terms of speed in comparison to the desktop-pc?
it would be a valid answer for if somebody says:
"the newest pda phone is roughly as performant as a desktop with a pentium II"
OK ... if you don't believe us then you can always try your own testing
create an Excel spreadsheet with a lot of data in it and a complicated forumla operating on them: time it updating.
Load same spreadsheet onto Pocket Excel and perform the same.
Thats the ONLY way you can do it. Grab an app, perform a function and time it. Copy the same/perform the same on the other platform and repeat.
These systems use totaly diferent processors and therefore instruction sets and architecture and so a direct comparison of MHz/GHz is not possible. Indeed, you can't even compare AMD CPU's to Intel CPU's for the very same reason.
500mhz=500mhz
simple math isn't it,but it stops there...they HAVE the same frequency but not the speed (speed is proportional to the frequency,but they are not the same)
2. major thing related to speed is memory
average pda has 20-50mb of ram memory
and even the lowest level pc has 128mb which is 3-4times more
things that are responsible for speed are
1.processor (not only mhz and ghz but technology 45,65,90nm , series -pentium2 and pentium3 on 500mhz haven't got the same speed only the same frequency,architecture)
2.memory
3.bus
4.cache
5.motherboard
6.drivers (instruction sets) responsible for mentioned above
and some more less crucial things
Hi friends,
Here i have one problem.....
I purchased HTC diamond 1 week ago, i'm facing here one problem, my phone was getting hot and hot. For just 5 to 10 min playing of video or audio or running any application my phone was getting hot, i feel like my hand was burning why so, is there any solution for it........?
HI
Is it CDMA or GSM diamond?
Becuase I face the same problem in CDMA Diamond
HI
Is it CDMA or GSM diamond?
Becuase I face the same problem in CDMA Diamond
I have the same prob, i have GSM EU version quadband.
This is a known issue with all diamonds. From what I know, there is no solution.
It's the processor which gets hot, playing music, watching video, surfing the net. Unless you get heat related problems, it's not really a problem.
Remember fellass:
Theres a bunch of stuff going under the hood and in a very very small space(we all know the Diamond is the smallest device around) It is a pretty big processor and a VGA res (double to most phone on the market now a days) plus the stuff we are running now a days is very demanding, accompanied by the multitasking we take for granted.
So heat is the natural opposed effect to all the computing that goes on in that small space. (ever walked in a server room, its hooottt.)
PS:is this the correct section for this question?
You forgot the battery Lol..
Regards,
Carty..
Hi, I got the same message but worth than yours. Whenever it's hot, its screen even though can not be aligned, means it shifts to left or right. I am still seeking help on this forum.
p.s.: any solution for this matter, please let me know. Thanks.
The heat for me has dissipated since my search for a balanced ROM and Radio. I use the word balance to illustrate that not all Roms/Radio's behave equally as far as performance is concern and the same goes when it comes to heat.
Generally yes, Diamonds will get a bit warm but no where near as warm as mine used to get when I first got it. I've flashed quite a bit to get to where I am.
Now, at best, it just get's a little warm.
ok im running haykuros latest htc rom and also overclockin with open overclocker my cpu speed was set to 384 eeverything was working fine until the battery was under 5 percent..the screen turned off and was really hot...i charged the battery and know the fone wont boot! all i get is a blue led when i press the power button! no commands work! home and back dont work or the camera button command either! plus I dont have insurance! Im screwed!
Damn...sorry to hear man. So the screen doesn't even come on? It doesn't even allow you to enter into recovery mode?
I would take the battery out, leave the cover off and leave it alone for a day or 2 in front of a fan or at least in a cool dry place so it can cool down NOT THE FRIDGE LOL. Some hardware even if it overheats, if the components aren't completely shot just needs a little resting time and it'll work fine. If by any means you can get it to boot i'd take out the memory card pop it into your computer and load the modded rc29 build onto it right away and then let it update OTA......Sorry about the loss I know the G1 is still pretty expensive 250+ most places I see...except craigslist which can be cheaper depending on which city you live in. Good Luck.
Happened to my old tmobile MDA a long time ago when I got overclock happy and I just let it sit for a day or 2 naked with the battery out and it powered up fine. Hope it works out for you......
Thanks for the help man.. i think imma jus leave it off overnight...
i dont think ill be able to put rc29 kuz i cant even get to that screen on the fone
I don't know if there is anyway of telling if the battery is damaged or not (doubt you have a digital multimeter). But even if you don't have insurance on the phone, you can complain that you are having battery problems and have tmobile send you a new battery, that you can try out. Good Luck bro.
I would go into a T-mobile store if you can and ask if they could switch out the battery for you. Most will unless they are complete asshats. If that doesn't work I would call T-mobile and do a warranty exchange. Don't tell them you have customer firmware or using an OC app. Just tell them the battery got really hot and now your phone won't work. It should be covered and they will send you out a replacement one.
T-mobile best CM!
Called T-mobile and they are sending me a brand spanking new fone for free! thank yo guys for all the help, much appreciated!
bricked
Your phones is not bricked you blew it up god over clocking your processor is dangerous unless you know what your doing guess this goes to show everyone overclocking the g1 is very dangerous unlike with great motherboards this will not shutdown if you overheat the proccessor
rigamrts said:
Your phones is not bricked you blew it up god over clocking your processor is dangerous unless you know what your doing guess this goes to show everyone overclocking the g1 is very dangerous unlike with great motherboards this will not shutdown if you overheat the proccessor
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He wasn't over clocking it. The "overclocking" apps do not actually overclock, they just set the clock speed to the max its made to go. The G1 is actually underclocked.
underclocking
Htc underclocked it for a reason cause it overheats and blows up come on people just because you can does not mean you should in the apps text in the market tells you about this. I was just pointing out that when you fry your phone it's not called bricking it's called blown up. It's not like htc put a fan to cool it down like a pc mac or linux box plus batery heat screen heat. Using an app that's designed to defeate safety features put in the phone is idiotic.
rigamrts said:
Htc underclocked it for a reason cause it overheats and blows up come on people just because you can does not mean you should in the apps text in the market tells you about this. I was just pointing out that when you fry your phone it's not called bricking it's called blown up. It's not like htc put a fan to cool it down like a pc mac or linux box plus batery heat screen heat. Using an app that's designed to defeate safety features put in the phone is idiotic.
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You don't seem to understand the definition of a processor's clock speed. The clock speed represents the maximum frequency the processor can run on safely. Therefore, there is no danger in running it at its full designed speed. Granted, it will decrease the overall processor's lifetime, it is still a safe thing to do in short bursts. Like you mentioned, the G1 doesn't have any cooling on it, meaning yes, the processor in a sense could overheat from running at such a high frequency, but it shouldn't be enough to permanently damage the phone. And finally, this is XDA Developers, we are all about defeating these safety mechanisms and things along that line
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And finally, this is XDA Developers, we are all about defeating these safety mechanisms and things along that line
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so say we all.
rigamrts said:
come on people just because you can does not mean you should
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says you, i personally like to test anything to it's max potential as long as it is under warranty. i figure if i goof it up i can claim i have no idea what is wrong with it(i'm a pretty good liar) right now i have a PC notebook quad-booting ubuntu 8.10, ubuntu 9.04, windows XP pro, and windows vista. if we never pushed anything hard enough to crash things would never get better. i wish i had a bigger hard drive in my comp(only have a 360 GB with 4 partitions) so what am i gonna buy ASAP 1 exabyte just because i CAN. i know i will never fill it up but hell i can store all my DNA info on it and still have room for any movie/mp3 i could possibly think of