Hello, I have recently noticed that my phone (HTC TP, ROM 1.90.404.1) takes odd pictures, I think it has something to do with the frequency and/or intensity of the light that comes from the object you're taking a picture of.
I have added a photo that I took, in the picture you see a lamp aimed at the ceiling. Note the weird colors.
I only have this problem with the 3.2 MP camera on the back, the camera on the front of the device is fine. Now I didn't buy the phone for it's camera quality, so it doesn't bother me that much. But I'm still curious.
Does anyone know whats going on?
regardles if you bought it for the camera function or not.
the camera function is on youre phone and it should work.
looks like youre camera doesnt work goed, so if it was my phone, i brought it back for repair.
Bump.
E-mailed HTC via the support site, waiting for a reply.
I don't want to have to hard reset
Anyone got any ideas?
This is probably a faulty device. I'd return it.
The photo looks normal to me
Did you store any kind of mind-driving / psychidelic substances near your Touch Pro?
Well a hard reset did not fix it.
I suppose I'll start looking into the return policy/warranty while I wait for a reply from HTC.
OK well another update.
The good news is I figured out what is causing it.
The problem is the IR filter or rather lack thereof. I asked around and someone told me I should aim a remote control at the lens, press buttons and see what happens. Well I see a nice bright flash on my screen whenever I press a button
Now how to fix it. I think placing a simple IR-filter in front of the lens might do the trick.
Looks like the hardware is fine.
Pezjik said:
OK well another update.
The good news is I figured out what is causing it.
The problem is the IR filter or rather lack thereof. I asked around and someone told me I should aim a remote control at the lens, press buttons and see what happens. Well I see a nice bright flash on my screen whenever I press a button
Now how to fix it. I think placing a simple IR-filter in front of the lens might do the trick.
Looks like the hardware is fine.
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This is not your problem. ALL digital cameras do the same 'trick', even my 12 MegaPixel super Olympus i've just got. I've even used this behavior to help fix a broken remote a few years back.
johnk1973 said:
This is not your problem. ALL digital cameras do the same 'trick', even my 12 MegaPixel super Olympus i've just got. I've even used this behavior to help fix a broken remote a few years back.
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Awww but the effect seemed the same. So maybe it's still something to do with the frequency?
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Awww but the effect seemed the same. So maybe it's still something to do with the frequency?
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Looks Poloraized, bad senor if u ask me.
well basically, the touch pro buttons are terrible. The ones at each corner are ok, but the left/right/up/down is terrible. I dont even bother using them, if i am playing some game or doing something full screen, i constantly hit the phone, or home buttons which minumize the program.
i was thinking... it may be possible to rather easily make some new face plate for the phone, maybe reuse teh central part which is the touch for the wheel.
but give it some actually normal buttons, i think touch pro has the worst buttons of any phone i have ever used.
does anyone have any pictures of what it looks like right under them?
Search for Touch Pro dismantling guide.
http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/htc-touch-pro/
check it out, half way down the pictures of the buttons
being able to see the layout of how they are actually pressed has now helped me alot at being able to hit them accuratly.
it also seems that iwth just a small adjustment they could be made much better.
however it kinda sucks how you have to take the entire phone appart to get to them... :/
I'm convinced that the screen is slightly out of calibration - but I can see no way to reset the calibration. (I'm ex WinMo!) - it must be in there somewhere - or do i need "an app for that".
Advice appreciated
G.
I was also thinking this. Unfortunately I still have not bought the phone yet, or I would of tried creating an app to test this theory. If a touch can be captured in x/y data, we could see what the problem is with the bottom row keys.
gf_gollum said:
I'm convinced that the screen is slightly out of calibration - but I can see no way to reset the calibration. (I'm ex WinMo!) - it must be in there somewhere - or do i need "an app for that".
Advice appreciated
G.
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The more I use the phone, I'm starting 2 think that the screen is not so much out of calibration, but is very sensitive 2 the angle that U touch the screen. when I use 2 hands 2 use the phone, It seems 2 always respond correctly
cause my finger is touching straight down, but if I use 1 hand and try 2 reach
across the it responds off a lil at times. 2 solve this I put the phone 2 the end of my
fingers and secure it as far from my thumb as possible. awkward at first 4 me be it responds correctly when I do. Hope this is clear and helps U. I do have big hands though.
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The more I use the phone, I'm starting 2 think that the screen is not so much out of calibration, but is very sensitive 2 the angle that U touch the screen. when I use 2 hands 2 use the phone, It seems 2 always respond correctly
cause my finger is touching straight down, but if I use 1 hand and try 2 reach
across the it responds off a lil at times. 2 solve this I put the phone 2 the end of my
fingers and secure it as far from my thumb as possible. awkward at first 4 me be it responds correctly when I do. Hope this is clear and helps U. I do have big hands though.
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I might know what you are talking about. At times I can't slide home screens when using the phone with one hand and it can get very annoying, but I blame myself rather than this wonderful phone.
I also remember my wife using the phone while it was flat on the desk and it would not respond properly, but as soon as it was picked up and did the same procedures it would work properly. We were thinking that It may have something to do with the angle of the phone and our fingers on the screen. Dont really know I just know how to get it working.
Have you guys rooted and enabled multi-touch?
If not, are you sure this isn't to do with the lack of multi-touch. On my N1 I have the same problem when using it with one hand. And I've noticed it's because part of my palm sometimes touches the screen as I'm holding the phone. As theres no multi-touch it won't register what I'm selecting with my thumb until my palm stops touching the screen.
At first I suspected it was an issue with the screen responsiveness/calibration aswell. Because as you try and tap with your thumb a few times, eventually you move your palm and it works.
However, then I took a closer look everytime it happened, and noticed part of my palm was always touching the screen.
Obviously this doesn't happen when you use two hands as usually you will then hold the phone with your fingertips, not by wrapping your hand around it.
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Have you guys rooted and enabled multi-touch?
If not, are you sure this isn't to do with the lack of multi-touch. On my N1 I have the same problem when using it with one hand. And I've noticed it's because part of my palm sometimes touches the screen as I'm holding the phone. As theres no multi-touch it won't register what I'm selecting with my thumb until my palm stops touching the screen.
At first I suspected it was an issue with the screen responsiveness/calibration aswell. Because as you try and tap with your thumb a few times, eventually you move your palm and it works.
However, then I took a closer look everytime it happened, and noticed part of my palm was always touching the screen.
Obviously this doesn't happen when you use two hands as usually you will then hold the phone with your fingertips, not by wrapping your hand around it.
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Dude, thanks for using your first post on us.
I think you are correct about the palm touching the screen. I have rooted and installed the modaco custom ROM, but I have not installed anything else for multi-touch. I will definitely look into this, thanks.
rydr1 said:
Dude, thanks for using your first post on us.
I think you are correct about the palm touching the screen. I have rooted and installed the modaco custom ROM, but I have not installed anything else for multi-touch. I will definitely look into this, thanks.
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No problem.
Coming from an iPhone it was not something I ever thought about, so was quite releaved when I figured out why it was happening.
Was on here looking for widgets when I spotted this so thought I'd register and save you scratching your head trying to figure it out like I did.
Lots of stuff to love about the phone, especially the battery life which I'm really impressed with and hadn't even expected to be a plus point over the 3GS. This was just supposed to be a stop gap until the iPhone 4G, but I'm actually thinking I may stick with it now
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This was just supposed to be a stop gap until the iPhone 4G, but I'm actually thinking I may stick with it now
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If you stick with it then welcome to android.
If you don't then you just need to have fun with this phone.
I've been finding ways around the major niggles I had over the last couple of weeks. So it's looking promising that I won't be splashing out for another iPhone in June/July.
It helps that my brother has one and I've had some time to play with it and get everything the way I want it. Which is part of the reason I got it now. If it had been during a really busy period (work wise), i'd probably be back on the 3GS.
Is there a way to disable Selfie [Front Facing] Camera because the amount of times I swipe to get to Pro or Panorama and end up in Selfie mode is getting beyond ridiculous!
As a professional Photographer there are times we need to get the Camera out in an instant, else to miss that all important shot.
I find it utterly stupid the way you swipe is so closely similar to either brings you from Auto to Pro or bring up Selfie mode.
It is almost equally frustrating to try and focus a subject in Auto Camera only to toggle Brightness slider, but that's another subject…
The Phone Company said:
As a professional Photographer
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Wouldn't you have dedicated tools for whatever job you might be at? Like, if you're anticipating needing to capture important images depending on where you are wouldn't you have your dedicated camera on you and not be relying on a smartphone camera?
Personally, I see our phones as phones first, media players second and cameras third. Compact advanced P&S are always better than what our phone's camera can do, anyway. At least that's just my opinion. They also tend to offer crazy long optical zooms, as well.
Anyway, looking through the settings myself, I don't see any option to do this. At least not natively. There's always third party camera apps like Open Camera than you can try out and see if that helps. Double-tapping the power button to fire up the camera app hasn't been fast enough? Or is it just an issue of what your last camera setting might have been that's causing the real issue?
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Wouldn't you have dedicated tools for whatever job you might be at? Like, if you're anticipating needing to capture important images depending on where you are wouldn't you have your dedicated camera on you and not be relying on a smartphone camera?
Personally, I see our phones as phones first, media players second and cameras third. Compact advanced P&S are always better than what our phone's camera can do, anyway. At least that's just my opinion. They also tend to offer crazy long optical zooms, as well.
Anyway, looking through the settings myself, I don't see any option to do this. At least not natively. There's always third party camera apps like Open Camera than you can try out and see if that helps. Double-tapping the power button to fire up the camera app hasn't been fast enough? Or is it just an issue of what your last camera setting might have been that's causing the real issue?
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This isn't a debate, I simply want to be able to use the in-built Camera, in Pro Mode, selecting Manual Focus/Shutter Speed/ISO using their sliders WITHOUT "accidentally" going to 'Selfie' camera.
How do I disable Selfie?
That is all. Nothing more. Nothing less. Thank you.
Are you really not able to swipe sideways without swiping up or down?
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LoL :laugh: some ppl just have to go on like that instead of just saying nothing if they can't help.
Maybe something in ADB shell can help.
I don't think you can turn it off. You may have to install another camera app and use it with your phone rather than using the default camera.
#MeToo
I stumbled across this site also looking to disable selfie mode. I DESPISE it and it's always getting in my way. To the idiots responding negatively, those are the douche bags taking pictures of themselves.
Re: to the guy condescendingly questioning why somebody would not use an actual dedicated camera. You may not one depending on what your photograhing. Often times you can get equally good results with lighting and a newer model cell phone in pro-mode. I personally have a decent DSLR and always use my phone out of pure convenience. Though with that said, if i was a photographer working with clients, i would never show up with only a cell phone.
If some Samsung suits ever read this, selfie mode sucks and is one of the most ridiculous and annoying features i have ever seen on a phone.
I fully agree that this is an annoyance, along with the brightness slider getting in the way when attempting to focus in that area of the screen. And the flash popout menu should simply be a toggle button in my view.
That said, there may be a couple of uses for these sticks that some people use to facilitate their grandstanding. I better not get into that, though.
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Is there a way to disable Selfie [Front Facing] Camera because the amount of times I swipe to get to Pro or Panorama and end up in Selfie mode is getting beyond ridiculous!
As a professional Photographer there are times we need to get the Camera out in an instant, else to miss that all important shot.
It is almost equally frustrating to try and focus a subject in Auto Camera only to toggle Brightness slider, but that's another subject…
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in short, yes. you can disable the FFC, but it wont help. Matter of fact itll probably mess everything up worse than you think. In order to disable it, youd have to mess with the kernel, as there is no toggle for the FFC. In addition, the app itself will always look for the FFC and offer you its respective options from within the app such as it being in the list of camera modes, which sounds like your ACTUAL problem. So, the long answer is no, not really. Not with the stock camera app anyways
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Wouldn't you have dedicated tools for whatever job you might be at? Like, if you're anticipating needing to capture important images depending on where you are wouldn't you have your dedicated camera on you and not be relying on a smartphone camera?
Personally, I see our phones as phones first, media players second and cameras third. Compact advanced P&S are always better than what our phone's camera can do, anyway. At least that's just my opinion.
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Have you ever worked with a DSLR? unless you already have it out and ready, there is no capturing of the moment with those. Point and shoots too. They have to boot every time you turn them on which takes time and causes people to miss the shot they wanted.
The Phone Company said:
This isn't a debate, I simply want to be able to use the in-built Camera, in Pro Mode, selecting Manual Focus/Shutter Speed/ISO using their sliders WITHOUT "accidentally" going to 'Selfie' camera.
How do I disable Selfie?
That is all. Nothing more. Nothing less. Thank you.
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i cant begin to describe how incorrect this is. this is the internet, if you ask a question on it, youll perhaps get a barrage of answers, some of them you might find useful, others not, but you dont get to decide what is a debate and what isnt. If youre not a moderator of this forum and no wrongdoings have occurred, the "debate" will be allowed.
btw, to answer your question, reassign the bixby button to launch the camera. My S9 launches the camera on bixby press and is ready to take a picture in a second
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Have you ever worked with a DSLR? unless you already have it out and ready, there is no capturing of the moment with those. Point and shoots too. They have to boot every time you turn them on which takes time and causes people to miss the shot they wanted.
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Yup. Sure have. Several different kinds. Unless you already have anything out and ready, smartphone, DSLR, P&S, Walgreens disposable camera, there is no capturing of the moment (if it's something faster than you getting the cam ready).
So, yes. I have and it's not hard. Also, as you may already know, there's a wide range of quality between different cameras and with that various levels of speeds with their capturing abilities. Somehow, some cameras find a way to capture fast moments. I know, right? It's crazy. Like I said before, it depends on you. How you prepare. What you are doing. Where you are going. Event? You should be prepared? Random occurrence? Smartphone. I mean, it seems easy enough to me.
But that's just me, I guess.
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Yup. Sure have. Several different kinds. Unless you already have anything out and ready, smartphone, DSLR, P&S, Walgreens disposable camera, there is no capturing of the moment (if it's something faster than you getting the cam ready).
So, yes. I have and it's not hard. Also, as you may already know, there's a wide range of quality between different cameras and with that various levels of speeds with their capturing abilities. Somehow, some cameras find a way to capture fast moments. I know, right? It's crazy. Like I said before, it depends on you. How you prepare. What you are doing. Where you are going. Event? You should be prepared? Random occurrence? Smartphone. I mean, it seems easy enough to me.
But that's just me, I guess.
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to quote yourself from your previous post...............
"Wouldn't you have dedicated tools for whatever job you might be at? Like, if you're anticipating needing to capture important images depending on where you are wouldn't you have your dedicated camera on you and not be relying on a smartphone camera?
Personally, I see our phones as phones first, media players second and cameras third. Compact advanced P&S are always better than what our phone's camera can do, anyway. At least that's just my opinion."
you spoke of hardware in that post and preparedness in this last one. because theyre the exact same thing. "I know, right? its crazy"
of course it depends on you, thats the point
also, not everyone who owns a DSLR, P&S, film cam etc etc etc has them out while a moment you want to get a pic of occurs, what do you reach for? the moment is obviously not going to last long and you have your phone and a DSLR. You just had your DSLR out and taking pics of far away buildings, so you have a 70/200 mm lens on it and the exposure is long for the same reason. Oh, forgot to mention that the thing youre wanting to take a pic of is 15 ft from you and moving. Now what? Your phone is still just a phone? and i should have been "prepared" for this somehow?
oh oh oh, almost forgot. I love how you say "personally, i see our phones as blah blah" Nobody asked you what your opinion on how to use their phone. Best part is how you got defensive after having the durr pointed out on your first post in this thread.
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oh oh oh, almost forgot. I love how you say "personally, i see our phones as blah blah" Nobody asked you what your opinion on how to use their phone. Best part is how you got defensive after having the durr pointed out on your first post in this thread.
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I'm sorry my innocuous opinion got so deep under your skin. My fault. I didn't know how sensitive you were.
All the best, my friend. Take absolute care.
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I'm sorry my innocuous opinion got so deep under your skin. My fault. I didn't know how sensitive you were.
All the best, my friend. Take absolute care.
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You got me man. Boy do I feel sheepish. Troll on trollboy
Im a Home Inspector, I use my Samsung to run my report programs, bluetooth my moisture meters, fly the drone and take photos. I do not want the selfie feature and would love to turn it off. Hell, I barely use the phone feature on my Samsung.
Shoumard said:
Im a Home Inspector, I use my Samsung to run my report programs, bluetooth my moisture meters, fly the drone and take photos. I do not want the selfie feature and would love to turn it off. Hell, I barely use the phone feature on my Samsung.
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might be best putting a piece of tape over the aperture. youll likely need root to do this, but by now im betting that someone made a magisk module to disable the cameras. If youre still wanting to do this, id look at magisk nowadays. in yesteryear, it was a very specific thing, but nowadays i bet something thatll get ya where you need to be is out there. i just dont mess with root enough anymore to be knowledgeable about it.
The Phone Company said:
This isn't a debate, I simply want to be able to use the in-built Camera, in Pro Mode, selecting Manual Focus/Shutter Speed/ISO using their sliders WITHOUT "accidentally" going to 'Selfie' camera.
How do I disable Selfie?
That is all. Nothing more. Nothing less. Thank you.
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I discovered this problem whenever I try to close the camera app by swiping up--forgetting that the phone has different gestures than my old phone. I'm not sure why there is such an urgent need for a selfie, such that it has it's own gesture. Many people put tape over the selfie camera, so being able to disable it makes more sense than giving it its own gesture.
BTW, not to fan the flames, but the phone makers go through a lot of effort to market their phone cameras as high enough quality to be used by pros, so I'm not sure what prompted 'his' lecture about when to use a phone camera and when not to use a phone camera.