Can T-mobile shut us down - General Questions and Answers

just wondering can t-mobile create a patch to basically make all of our phones that are rooted to not work???? just wondering if anyone knows

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Ace42 said:
You cant put vids on this forum
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yeah kinda sucks lol but this forum still rocks you know anything about what i posted????

VoLoDaR1 said:
yeah kinda sucks lol but this forum still rocks you know anything about what i posted????
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Kind of. The tmo servers have a checkin service that is like win update on windows.Test keys are used for roms so they can receive OTA updates theoretically but they can tell diff from unrooted phone and rooted phone. Tmo apps dont work like myfaves but i doubt tmo cares since only a small fraction of customers are aware of rooting not too many people.

Ace42 said:
Kind of. The tmo servers have a checkin service that is like win update on windows.Test keys are used for roms so they can receive OTA updates theoretically but they can tell diff from unrooted phone and rooted phone. Tmo apps dont work like myfaves but i doubt tmo cares since only a small fraction of customers are aware of rooting not too many people.
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ok cool thanx for the answer

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Cupcake US Release Date: May 11

I received an official notification that cupcakes US release will start around may 11 and be rolled out in waves.
More info can be found: http://droiddeveloper.com/
so late :-(
From what i have heard they wanted to put some last minute tweaks into it to make sure that it was more user friendly.
wyinsz said:
so late :-(
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i agree....we get everything last
I believe it was to give developers time to get their stuff compatible, so that t-mobile service wasn't swamped with calls from people having problems which stem from incompatible apps.
how are updates going to work if i have a modded rc33? w/root
mikedmeyer said:
I believe it was to give developers time to get their stuff compatible, so that t-mobile service wasn't swamped with calls from people having problems which stem from incompatible apps.
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yes i agree but why did UK and Germany get it b4 the US when the g1 hit the US 1st
chrisag92 said:
yes i agree but why did UK and Germany get it b4 the US when the g1 hit the US 1st
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- Because they didn't have to make sure Amazon Marketplace, MyFaves, Yahoo IM, MSN IM, & AIM would work on it.
- Because a different management team controls Europe than the one that controls the US, and they made different decisions about how long to wait before releasing it.
Pick one.
trevordbs said:
how are updates going to work if i have a modded rc33? w/root
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You will not receive normal OTA updates from T-mobile. You can either upgrade manually or download the JF Updater from the market.
chrisag92 said:
i agree....we get everything last
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I beg to differ
What about games, movies, consoles etc etc
Europe always get them last lol
lithrin said:
I beg to differ
What about games, movies, consoles etc etc
Europe always get them last lol
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i didn't know we got games and all that first lol
but im talking about this OTA stuff lol i need it 1 more week is to long
will it have any differences from the official update and the one on HTC page??
sandrosilva said:
will it have any differences from the official update and the one on HTC page??
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i think so because the one on htc was also for developers
so there should be a little more stability i think and that's about it
sandrosilva said:
will it have any differences from the official update and the one on HTC page??
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Of course it will. The one on the HTC page is for the Android Developer Phone, not the US G1. The US G1 version will take away root and add MyFaves, Amazon Market, and Yahoo, MSN, and AOL IM.
i find the htc's 1.5 still really choppy and laggy.. kinda dissapointed with it
I wonder how much of a difference there will be other than Tmobile apps of course.
I got tired of waiting and upgraded myself last night,I also got root access.Tmobile and HTC can shove it up their ass.....we US users pay the highest prices,get the phone first and we have to wait.
The new 1.5 cupcake comes with some nice new features but still kinda laggy,but it´s worth it.
I also see absolutely no reason to wait. JF1.5 ftw.
chrisag92 said:
yes i agree but why did UK and Germany get it b4 the US when the g1 hit the US 1st
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Having the update coming out first doesn't mean its good, the US may want to modify its update by looking at the other updates to make it perfect
Something that a really like on the 1.5 is the option to select high quality on youtube.
The on-screen keyboard is nice too for quick texting but the buttons are quite small.. since g1 screen is smaller than the iphone.. other than that scrolling is still choppy.. battery still need A LOT of improvements.. btw i dont really know why g1's battery sux so hard since the cpu is clocked at mediocres ~240mhz - ~380mhz max instead of 528mhz.. oh yeah gps is better now.. works even inside buildings for the most part.

june 15th d-day

ok so this is the second time talking to tmobile tech and them telling me june 15th gingerbread will be sent out, they just got word that its ready they said it fixes a bunch of things, she stressed on not having a task killer that day cuz it would mess the ota update up, im good cuz i dont need the ota il wait for the rooted version lol, she said make sure your battery is fully charged. she also said there sending it out that day because the sensation drops? i thought it already did??? idk im almost 80% sure now after hearing all the stuff she told me that it will be out. some of u guys should try calling tech support and see what they say
sarni84 said:
ok so this is the second time talking to tmobile tech and them telling me june 15th gingerbread will be sent out, they just got word that its ready they said it fixes a bunch of things, she stressed on not having a task killer that day cuz it would mess the ota update up, im good cuz i dont need the ota il wait for the rooted version lol, she said make sure your battery is fully charged. she also said there sending it out that day because the sensation drops? i thought it already did??? idk im almost 80% sure now after hearing all the stuff she told me that it will be out. some of u guys should try calling tech support and see what they say
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IMO they were delaying gingerbread update and saving it for June 15th mainly because they do not want most of the G2X users to go to stores on 15th and exchange their G2X with Sensation. They would want to sell Sensation to the new customers not unsatisfied G2X users. It's just a theory though. I just wish they release GB soon.
I am so excited!!!! Tomorrow I will be checking my phone the whole day!
I will call T-Mobile and see what they say about the update,
Thanks for letting us know
i know i agree cuz i said why are you guys dropping both the same day and she said she didnt know lol, i was skeptical at first but after everything she said like temporarily disable task killer if u have one idk all makes sense, dude she was reading everything off to me from her computer screen she said, she was like some people were complaining about there phone shutting down and rebooting at times, she said the update will fix it, so lets see what tommorrow brings boys
i just called back for ****s agiggles n this rep didnt hear anything....idk its weird y would the 2 i talked to know about it and this one not know about it
we shall see i dont see it happening..
I'm not holding my breath either...it'd be announced all over if it was official.
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From my experience, the level 1 techs don't know a whole lot, even about updates. Probably need to talk to someone in the Android tech dept.
I'll believe it when I see it...
T-Mobile more than likely is informing their G2x customers that the update is coming on the 15th to shut us up. I highly doubt the we would get the update before the European customers get theirs - they have had their devices a couple of months before we in the states got ours and they have still not seen an update. At this point I wouldn't trust a word T-Mobile says.
sarni84 said:
i just called back for ****s agiggles n this rep didnt hear anything....idk its weird y would the 2 i talked to know about it and this one not know about it
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I have found Tmo is like anyplace else. There are great employees that read all the memos and know what the hell is going on and are helpful and then there are a bunch of deadbeats just collecting a check.
dkb218 said:
T-Mobile more than likely is informing their G2x customers that the update is coming on the 15th to shut us up. I highly doubt the we would get the update before the European customers get theirs - they have had their devices a couple of months before we in the states got ours and they have still not seen an update. At this point I wouldn't trust a word T-Mobile says.
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u know whats crazy about that she said they rolled theres out last week.....??? i would like to know tho
There is no GB update coming I have the inside source code
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jcbofkc said:
I have found Tmo is like anyplace else. There are great employees that read all the memos and know what the hell is going on and are helpful and then there are a bunch of deadbeats just collecting a check.
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i feel ya......i just hope it happens, idk have a day to findout so we shall see
Rootuser3.0 said:
There is no GB update coming y'all are some effing Id its
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dude im just relaying what the tech told me, and y are we idiots??? do u know for sure, let me guess u work for tmobile
sarni84 said:
dude im just relaying what the tech told me, and y are we idiots??? do u know for sure, let me guess u work for tmobile
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No, I believe he works at Bullsh*t'R'us
But it's all speculation at this point, no one will know for sure until it actually happens. Seeing is believing, after all
omarsalmin said:
No, I believe he works at Bullsh*t'R'us
But it's all speculation at this point, no one will know for sure until it actually happens. Seeing is believing, after all
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lol yea hes even retiring early for being such a great employee lol, nah i guess we will just wait and see....
I'm banging Tmobile's ceo daughter and she said something would be coming out tommorow.
dligon said:
I'm banging Tmobile's ceo daughter and she said something would be coming out tommorow.
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...cumming*
dligon said:
I'm banging Tmobile's ceo daughter and she said something would be coming out tommorow.
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Pics or it didn't happen
"If Satan lived in heaven he'd be me... "
freakboy13 said:
Pics or it didn't happen
"If Satan lived in heaven he'd be me... "
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Second this notion!

T-mobile might be pushing gb on g2x

Hey guys i work for tech support on tmobile a costumer called this morning talking about she got a message from tmobile saying there is an update available for her phone...
This might be the official gingerbread... I havent got it on my g2x yet but we dont push an update to all of the phones at the same time...
So im gonna be looking into this..
And yall keep in mind in this post...
P.s... If your rooted tmobile wont tmobile wont push the update to you you would have to unroot to update the phone...
I'll keep yall posted
The GB update as well as the official MIUI both landing on the same day... this would be sick
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gypsy214 said:
Hey guys i work for tech support on tmobile a costumer called this morning talking about she got a message from tmobile saying there is an update available for her phone...
This might be the official gingerbread... I havent got it on my g2x yet but we dont push an update to all of the phones at the same time...
So im gonna be looking into this..
And yall keep in mind in this post...
P.s... If your rooted tmobile wont tmobile wont push the update to you you would have to unroot to update the phone...
I'll keep yall posted
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Just a friendly little anecdote for you. Do with it what you will...
I worked tech support in a call center for a large mobile provider and was terminated for posting on forums after they managed to link me to some posts I had made. They did this by monitoring network traffic in the building, which lead them to my computer since I was posting them while at work. I was fired for the content of the posts, although they were all completely harmless, such as your post. They felt I was divulging proprietary information.
For a long time I kicked myself for posting on the forums with my work computer, but really I should have been kicking myself for posting at all, from any device. In the end, just ask yourself if the risk is worth the reward.
Now, the bright side of this, 6 months later I landed a great job as a network admin for a great company.
Oh and about that company I used to work for, their name started with a T and ended with a Mobile.
well thats not very smart for you to do.....
do you really think im getting on this website from work...
im not DENSE like some people...
gypsy214 said:
well thats not very smart for you to do.....
do you really think im getting on this website from work...
im not DENSE like some people...
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Dude he was just trying to help
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gypsy214 said:
well thats not very smart for you to do.....
do you really think im getting on this website from work...
im not DENSE like some people...
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I think you're missing the bigger point here. As I said in the post, the conclusion I made in the end was that it really wasn't worth it to post at all, regardless of where I was posting. They could just as easily linked me to the posts using other methods, such as overhearing something, or someone tattling. Or maybe I became facebook friends with someone on the forums, and they reported me. There are plenty of ways.
Nevertheless, I did say to do what you will with the story. But seriously, consider the whole risk vs. reward part of it. What are you really getting out of posting small bits of 'insider' information? Probably not much. And believe me, I didn't think I was divulging anything proprietary, but it didn't matter what I thought. My posts were almost identical to yours. I wish someone had said this to me back then (even though I landed a better job in the end).
Anyhow, good luck to you. You probably won't get burned like I did, but as they say... **** happens.
Can someone explain why a rooted phone will not work with the OTA? Is having CWM also an issue? What do I need to do to prepare my phone before the update arrives?
I also do not understand why TMo would not publish the update on their site like they do with all the windows phones.
alpinestars said:
Dude he was just trying to help
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Absolutely right. I later learned that I wasn't the first to be terminated for posting, and I'm sure I won't be the last.
In my last comment I mentioned that I wish someone had given me this bit of 'advice' long ago, but come to think of it, someone pretty much did. I distinctly remember someone replying to me one day and saying that they know other employees had gotten in trouble for posting. I brushed it off just like this guy/gal.
Just trying to pay it forward
jcbofkc said:
Can someone explain why a rooted phone will not work with the OTA? Is having CWM also an issue? What do I need to do to prepare my phone before the update arrives?
I also do not understand why TMo would not publish the update on their site like they do with all the windows phones.
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You need to revert back to stock for the update. This is because the update is designed to build on the stock OS, not whatever you have on your phone. As far as rooting it and leaving it stock, not sure what the root does to block the ota.
jcbofkc said:
Can someone explain why a rooted phone will not work with the OTA? Is having CWM also an issue? What do I need to do to prepare my phone before the update arrives?
I also do not understand why TMo would not publish the update on their site like they do with all the windows phones.
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I can't be positive, but perhaps its not so much rooted as flashed with another ROM. I've heard of rooted phones being updated. I've not heard of cooked ROMs being updated.
But, I know nothing for sure.
I don't know if this means anything other than what it says. But I have tried to connect to get software update and it keeps giving me the old can't connect at this time message. Could it be that the servers on their end are overwhelmed with others trying to do the update if it is indeed out?
And another question...I am not a T-Mo suscriber. I use Simple Mobile. Would the update get pushed to my G2x or would I have to manually install it? Thanks
Thanks guys. I am running rooted stock and stayed that way on purpose so I could get the update. I also stayed stock because my phone runs like a champ. Never had a reboot and everything works as intended.
You are probably better off waiting a few days to let our developers get a hold of it anyway.
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I don't know if this means anything other than what it says. But I have tried to connect to get software update and it keeps giving me the old can't connect at this time message. Could it be that the servers on their end are overwhelmed with others trying to do the update if it is indeed out?
And another question...I am not a T-Mo suscriber. I use Simple Mobile. Would the update get pushed to my G2x or would I have to manually install it? Thanks
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The update won't get pushed to Ur phone. Only T-Mobile customers will get the push.
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alpinestars said:
The update won't get pushed to Ur phone. Only T-Mobile customers will get the push.
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When there are 'Official' releases to multiple carriers, then each carrier would get a push, based on their own agreements with LG. If the phone is a regionally sold phone, also called unbranded, a push is made to them also. Most commonly, you see the unbranded phones get the update first, since the carrier testing does not have to be done.
But, in reality..it is all a crap shoot....so you're still waiting, no matter what.
Anyone have any solid information on this though? There are just too many threads of "I just heard the GB update..." with no solid ROM information or even a picture.
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The update won't get pushed to Ur phone. Only T-Mobile customers will get the push.
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No biggie, I can wait for it to show up on the LG or TMO website and download it. This probably is another false alarm anyways LOL.
mahgninnuc93 said:
No biggie, I can wait for it to show up on the LG or TMO website and download it. This probably is another false alarm anyways LOL.
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Yeah, most likely this is a false alarm. I just hope this long awaited update will fix the GPS (takes forever to lock). That's the only issue I have with mine. I don't have random reboots or overheating like others do.
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Phenomenon said:
Anyone have any solid information on this though? There are just too many threads of "I just heard the GB update..." with no solid ROM information or even a picture.
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This. Nobody get too excited yet.
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Phenomenon said:
Anyone have any solid information on this though? There are just too many threads of "I just heard the GB update..." with no solid ROM information or even a picture.
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So, I was wondering....where does one go to get 'solid' information? We're here in a community forum, using fake names. More than half of us can't vote, work in a burger king or in college. We all have a tendency to read and search and google/bing about the G2x.
I for 1 couldn't tell solid information from rumor. I will say this though...if the information you have, comes from Twitter, Android Police, TMONEWS, or anything with a 'Forum' in front of it....its a rumor. If your great news starts with, " I just talked to a TMobile CS...." its a rumor. If you just talked to your friend, who works in a store or is a TMobile CS agent, its a rumor.
You'll either get an OTA on your phone, and recieve the update which you can prove with a screen shot. Or you'll plug into the LG support tool and update, which you can validate again, with screenshots...
All else is rumors. Please post all rumors in the HTC Sensation forum...where they are living the dream.

T-mobile Promises me an Update to 2.3.4

I just got done talking to a T-mobile rep about some problems I had with my G2x. So he asked for my firmware version and I told him 2.3.3 and then he asked for my kernel version and I told him. Then he told me to do "Checking" on my phone dial-er ,then he said I'm going to get an update in the next 24 hours to 2.3.4. If I don't they said for me to call them. Do you think they are bluffing?
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I just got done talking to a T-mobile rep about some problems I had with my G2x. So he asked for my firmware version and I told him 2.3.3 and then he asked for my kernel version and I told him. Then he told me to do "Checking" on my phone dial-er ,then he said I'm going to get an update in the next 24 hours to 2.3.4. If I don't they said for me to call them. Do you think they are bluffing?
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While I can't say that they are wrong, I also can't say they are correct, either. Customer CARE isn't supposed to disseminate that kind of information to begin with, largely for this reason: they don't really know what they're talking about. They aren't briefed on this kind of information and therefore aren't supposed to mislead customers into incorrect information.
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I just got done talking to a T-mobile rep about some problems I had with my G2x. So he asked for my firmware version and I told him 2.3.3 and then he asked for my kernel version and I told him. Then he told me to do "Checking" on my phone dial-er ,then he said I'm going to get an update in the next 24 hours to 2.3.4. If I don't they said for me to call them. Do you think they are bluffing?
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Guess we'll find out by tomorrow won't we?
if the update is real please tell us what you did. but i imagine if there was another update it will be all over the forums lol
oj0043 said:
I just got done talking to a T-mobile rep about some problems I had with my G2x. So he asked for my firmware version and I told him 2.3.3 and then he asked for my kernel version and I told him. Then he told me to do "Checking" on my phone dial-er ,then he said I'm going to get an update in the next 24 hours to 2.3.4. If I don't they said for me to call them. Do you think they are bluffing?
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Make sure you are unrooted and on stock recovery.
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mt3g said:
Make sure you are unrooted and on stock recovery.
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If this is true this would be fantastic. I could change my mod to firmware designed for TMO (wifi calling would work peeps) and it would hopefully flash a new baseband and solve some sms on 4g issues people are having (hopefully).
I bet I know what happened. The tmo rep probably misunderstood and thought you had the Tmobile G2, which does have a gingerbread 2.3.4 update. Don't waste your time calling those donkeys tomorrow.
Nothing yet. I don't think he would get a g2 and a g2x mixed up. Only because I gave him all my "about phone" information under stock 2.3.3 so who knows.
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The CSRs at all the companies are notorious for knowing nothing and making stuff up. They are usually the last to know about updates, etc. so I would take with a very tiny grain of salt anything they say about an OTA coming soon.
So, did you get your promised OTA yet?
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The CSRs at all the companies are notorious for knowing nothing and making stuff up. They are usually the last to know about updates, etc. so I would take with a very tiny grain of salt anything they say about an OTA coming soon.
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I used to be one of those CSRs.. actually I was a Tier 2 PDA Tech Support until they closed our call center... I was top performance on the site, and I didn't make stuff up .. of course, I got all my facts from xda-developers before we ever heard of them at work... plenty of the other tech support reps made stuff up though...
As far as the OP's OTA... I can guarantee the rep didn't know about what they spoke... We have the leaked 2.3.4 from the tracphone device, and while it's nice, there aren't enough differences that T-Mobile would bother with the hassle of doing an update OTA. That said, the firmware is *obviously* built, and they COULD push out such an update... They just won't.
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I used to be one of those CSRs.. actually I was a Tier 2 PDA Tech Support until they closed our call center... I was top performance on the site, and I didn't make stuff up .. of course, I got all my facts from xda-developers before we ever heard of them at work... plenty of the other tech support reps made stuff up though...
As far as the OP's OTA... I can guarantee the rep didn't know about what they spoke... We have the leaked 2.3.4 from the tracphone device, and while it's nice, there aren't enough differences that T-Mobile would bother with the hassle of doing an update OTA. That said, the firmware is *obviously* built, and they COULD push out such an update... They just won't.
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If you were knowledgeable and didn't make stuff up then you were a rare exception to the rule. What did they do, send your job to India, South America or the Philippines?
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If you were knowledgeable and didn't make stuff up then you were a rare exception to the rule. What did they do, send your job to India, South America or the Philippines?
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Supposedly they took the tier 2 pda support totally in-house... but honestly their support has really gone down in the last year, I think they were already shopping the company to be sold when they closed my call center.
No. I called them again and they said keep trying. Typical.
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you know i am tired of people saying that tmobile told them this told them that.
you know what tmobile costumer care and tech support dont know nothing other than whats in their screen. and honestly tmobile will not tell tech/care if there gonna be an update they dont know whats the exact date.
im telling you because i had worked with tmobile tech support.
yes they give us cell phones with the actual update but just to test.
and to be honest some people working at tech support dont even know **** about cell phones and how they work. if its not on their computer they put you in hold or send you to another person.
if you really want to know more about when this update gonna come out if it does. i guarrantee ya xda will be the 1st to know.
If my G2X is rooted with CM7, do I have to worry about T-Mobile pushing an update at me?
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If my G2X is rooted with CM7, do I have to worry about T-Mobile pushing an update at me?
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You will never even get a notification for an OTA. They can't push updates out to non-T-Mobile ROMs that aren't on the stock recovery.
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You will never even get a notification for an OTA. They can't push updates out to non-T-Mobile ROMs that aren't on the stock recovery.
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Not quite true. If you are on a stock rom but not stock recovery, they will push the OTA to you but it will fail to install if stock recovery is not on the device.
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Not quite true. If you are on a stock rom but not stock recovery, they will push the OTA to you but it will fail to install if stock recovery is not on the device.
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Thanks for the quick correction. I noticed it right after I posted but had to go to a software licensing meeting. I was just coming back to make the edit right now

Guys can we do anything about what HTC and at&t are doing to us?

okay so by now I have learned that it might not just be htcs fault but is most likely atts fault that were not getting the unlocked boot loader or the proper sources to be released
Why is att doing this? There's nothing positive for them or HTC in doing this
Is there anything we can do, does any one have connections with people in bigger companies that make this very public and sound like the huge issue that it is
Is there any else that we can do besides for that?
I think it would just be a good idea to brainstorm on wht to do to fix this dilemma
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Vote with your dollars cancel service and tell them why.
Source has been released except for the most recent updates. Those will be released eventually.
I doubt AT&T is going to budge on the locked bootloader because the number of people who really care probably represent about 1% of their HOX customers.
If you're intent on pushing, the place to start would be making a stink on AT&T's social media pages.
Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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Well, if you have the money to start a class action against them, sure.
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Well, if you have the money to start a class action against them, sure.
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Doesn't the AT&T contract say you can't sue them?
I think you can still take them to small court which is limited to a few thousand dollars.
tony_5309 said:
Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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I'd probably just punch him in the Face
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If you guys really want to try, just go to small claims courts claiming that you were convinced that you had the ability to unlock the bootloader, and use Peter Chou's statement on unlocking bootloaders as evidence, and then say that you couldn't unlock it. If you lose, nothing happens to you. If you win, and a lot of other people win, AT&T is going to be bleeding money.
karan1203 said:
Doesn't the AT&T contract say you can't sue them?
I think you can still take them to small court which is limited to a few thousand dollars.
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I've never seen anything saying you couldn't sue AT&T. A Class action would be there to reverse their grip on a handset, which is HTC's flagship in North America (and arguably, the best phone out right now). It hurts devs more than anything.
tony_5309 said:
Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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We might, but anyone that is getting this phone now with the new update is screwed for a while. And it's not fair that they have to wait just because these companies are being dumb.
I suggest we all get on a bus, go to Houston where AT&T is based and just drop our pants and leave them something at their front entrance....
Just kidding...
Buy samsung. Let htc go bankrupt!
lazarat said:
Buy samsung. Let htc go bankrupt!
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its not HTC its ATT so that comment really didnt help. ATT wants the locked bootloader on all thier flagship phones. The dont want people to do tethering, and they want to be able to force you to keep that ****ty bloatware for the possible sales they would get from it. its flat out ATT greed that has them keeping the bootloader locked down. Unfortunatly right now HTC doesnt have the pull Samsung does to force ATT hand.
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Unfortunatly right now HTC doesnt have the pull Samsung does to force ATT hand.
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Then they better have the pull because people pay high amount of $ for their device and do not care whether they have the pull or not. Maybe htc should call themselves apple2 since all I read about them is giving devs hard time not releasing sources etc while on their webpage they claim to be dev friendly which is total bull****.
This new software update isn't good. Patching the hboot, no root, no bootloader unlock. We shouldn't expect any new developers developing for this phone. AT&T sealed that deal for us when they release 2.20.
SkizzMcNizz said:
This new software update isn't good. Patching the hboot, no root, no bootloader unlock. We shouldn't expect any new developers developing for this phone. AT&T sealed that deal for us when they release 2.20.
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yep and the att guy at the store updated my wifes before giving it to her and i asked him why he said they were told they have to do the update on all HTC One X they sell. i returned it and ordered from amazon hoping to get 1.85 on the phone. This was earlier today when she wanted to upgrade to the HOX too.
vioalas said:
We might, but anyone that is getting this phone now with the new update is screwed for a while. And it's not fair that they have to wait just because these companies are being dumb.
I suggest we all get on a bus, go to Houston where AT&T is based and just drop our pants and leave them something at their front entrance....
Just kidding...
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LoL! This is true..
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Now, who's coding the HBoot? It can't be AT&T, can it? I would think it would have to be HTC because no one at AT&T is smart enough to do this...
Edit: As well, just checked HTC's site... the rom is listed for manual download. Perhaps a dev can reverse engineer it?
XNine said:
Now, who's coding the HBoot? It can't be AT&T, can it? I would think it would have to be HTC because no one at AT&T is smart enough to do this...
Edit: As well, just checked HTC's site... the rom is listed for manual download. Perhaps a dev can reverse engineer it?
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Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.
gunnyman said:
Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.
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Has anyone who's taken the ota and kept root confirmed which partitions are/aren't WP?
gunnyman said:
Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.
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I hear ya man. ****, I should have got an iPhone. At least I could pester Siri about her hot sister or ask advice on hiding bodies. Even iPhones are having better luck getting unlocked.
Regardless, I do love this phone. Probably the best phone since the Nexus One.
Like you said though, just a matter of time, and, will we have bootloader unlock access? I'm going to be hopeful. For anyone who buys their device with 2.20 loaded, it would really suck to not be able to at least achieve root.
Question, gunny... do you know (assuming one has root and TBU), is there a way to freeze the updates? Is their a system app or process that could be frozen so that OTA's never show again?

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