Cupcake US Release Date: May 11 - G1 Android Development

I received an official notification that cupcakes US release will start around may 11 and be rolled out in waves.
More info can be found: http://droiddeveloper.com/

so late :-(

From what i have heard they wanted to put some last minute tweaks into it to make sure that it was more user friendly.

wyinsz said:
so late :-(
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i agree....we get everything last

I believe it was to give developers time to get their stuff compatible, so that t-mobile service wasn't swamped with calls from people having problems which stem from incompatible apps.

how are updates going to work if i have a modded rc33? w/root

mikedmeyer said:
I believe it was to give developers time to get their stuff compatible, so that t-mobile service wasn't swamped with calls from people having problems which stem from incompatible apps.
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yes i agree but why did UK and Germany get it b4 the US when the g1 hit the US 1st

chrisag92 said:
yes i agree but why did UK and Germany get it b4 the US when the g1 hit the US 1st
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- Because they didn't have to make sure Amazon Marketplace, MyFaves, Yahoo IM, MSN IM, & AIM would work on it.
- Because a different management team controls Europe than the one that controls the US, and they made different decisions about how long to wait before releasing it.
Pick one.

trevordbs said:
how are updates going to work if i have a modded rc33? w/root
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You will not receive normal OTA updates from T-mobile. You can either upgrade manually or download the JF Updater from the market.

chrisag92 said:
i agree....we get everything last
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I beg to differ
What about games, movies, consoles etc etc
Europe always get them last lol

lithrin said:
I beg to differ
What about games, movies, consoles etc etc
Europe always get them last lol
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i didn't know we got games and all that first lol
but im talking about this OTA stuff lol i need it 1 more week is to long

will it have any differences from the official update and the one on HTC page??

sandrosilva said:
will it have any differences from the official update and the one on HTC page??
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i think so because the one on htc was also for developers
so there should be a little more stability i think and that's about it

sandrosilva said:
will it have any differences from the official update and the one on HTC page??
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Of course it will. The one on the HTC page is for the Android Developer Phone, not the US G1. The US G1 version will take away root and add MyFaves, Amazon Market, and Yahoo, MSN, and AOL IM.

i find the htc's 1.5 still really choppy and laggy.. kinda dissapointed with it

I wonder how much of a difference there will be other than Tmobile apps of course.

I got tired of waiting and upgraded myself last night,I also got root access.Tmobile and HTC can shove it up their ass.....we US users pay the highest prices,get the phone first and we have to wait.
The new 1.5 cupcake comes with some nice new features but still kinda laggy,but it´s worth it.

I also see absolutely no reason to wait. JF1.5 ftw.

chrisag92 said:
yes i agree but why did UK and Germany get it b4 the US when the g1 hit the US 1st
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Having the update coming out first doesn't mean its good, the US may want to modify its update by looking at the other updates to make it perfect

Something that a really like on the 1.5 is the option to select high quality on youtube.
The on-screen keyboard is nice too for quick texting but the buttons are quite small.. since g1 screen is smaller than the iphone.. other than that scrolling is still choppy.. battery still need A LOT of improvements.. btw i dont really know why g1's battery sux so hard since the cpu is clocked at mediocres ~240mhz - ~380mhz max instead of 528mhz.. oh yeah gps is better now.. works even inside buildings for the most part.

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ATT Fuze

so just starting this thread so we can discuss any updates on release or other info cause i cant wait for the phone
and please try not to let this post became arguments just like every other one
One member believes it will release at the end of September, as for everyone else on the internet, we haven't heard a word about release. The Sprint version is coming early September and I've heard the Verizon version is late Sept, but AT&T hasn't been mentioned by anyone but 1 user on here.
Check back in a few weeks.
If you have any questions regarding other things about the phone besides release date, ask away.
stopped by the at&t store yesterday...talked to this girl that i always go to and she said one of her co-workers went to a training seminar for the Touch Pro..he wasnt there at the time so i couldnt get any more info. She said its gonna be withing a month till its released..i cant wait.
volcomnator999 said:
stopped by the at&t store yesterday...talked to this girl that i always go to and she said one of her co-workers went to a training seminar for the Touch Pro..he wasnt there at the time so i couldnt get any more info. She said its gonna be withing a month till its released..i cant wait.
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Hey! That's close to Sep 29th right?
looks like a branded version from att youre talking about right?
are there picture`s of it, or does it look exectly the same as the HTC version?
groofoo said:
looks like a branded version from att youre talking about right?
are there picture`s of it, or does it look exectly the same as the HTC version?
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There are pics on my photobucket but I'm on the Fuze now so I don't wanna get them. Look in the thread titled "I Own The Only AT&T Touch Pro I Know Of".
Black93300ZX said:
Look in the thread titled "I Own The Only AT&T Touch Pro I Know Of".
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thx, doesnt look much different than the HTC version to me.
groofoo said:
thx, doesnt look much different than the HTC version to me.
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differences are no front camera
the keyboard layout top row is symbols not numbers wich i say is better
and the software for the fm radio was removed but you can put it back on
any other new stuff id love to hear!
I can't wait for this to be released. My girlfriend's cousin works at an AT&T store here in town so hopefully when I see him tonight he will be able to give me some info. The only bad part is that I am not due for an upgrade until Dec 09 =(.
I think i will just use my mom's upgrade mwhahahaha
Is there any difference in proccessor speed or RAM from the EU version? or is the only difference purely just the front camera and keyboard layout?
bartimeus said:
I can't wait for this to be released. My girlfriend's cousin works at an AT&T store here in town so hopefully when I see him tonight he will be able to give me some info. The only bad part is that I am not due for an upgrade until Dec 09 =(.
I think i will just use my mom's upgrade mwhahahaha
Is there any difference in proccessor speed or RAM from the EU version? or is the only difference purely just the front camera and keyboard layout?
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black says his has the same innards and memory all that so should be great
Ok cool. Also do we know if it supports plugins similar to what ThrottleLauncher does? So I could replace the default weather screen with something like WeatherPanel.

"Google latitude" :firmware update soon?

latitude, the new google services to know where your frineds are say we will have a new update soon that will include maps v3.0.
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=136640
"- Android-powered devices with Maps v3.0 and above. G1 users in the US will be receiving Maps v3.0 in a system update soon. "
is the RC33 include maps 3.0, or they are talking about "CUPCAKE" ??
personally i think that rc33 was sent because of the option to check for updates manually. that leads to the conclusion that google is the one responsible for the updates. which leads to the conclusion that there might be a HUGE update comming soon. i would say a month or two.... is it going to be the cupcake? i dont know but i think its going to be a major one
One of the mods on the official tmob forum posted some screen shots of Latitude in RC33.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=87&message.id=31086
wimbet said:
One of the mods on the official tmob forum posted some screen shots of Latitude in RC33.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=87&message.id=31086
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yeah that post is gone.
TimSykes said:
yeah that post is gone.
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The thread got merged with another but I found it. Towards the bottom...
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/boa...thread.id=31078&view=by_date_ascending&page=5
just seen this on drudgereport
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009...zmos/main4774320.shtml?tag=topHome;topStories
TimSykes said:
yeah that post is gone.
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RC33 - Firmware ver. 1.1
I don't think this feature is going to help battery life.
i don't think any feature will ever increase battery life =/
not that it really matters. extended battery's are a godsend.
Whats the difference between this and loopt?
samysam05 said:
Whats the difference between this and loopt?
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AFAIK, nothing. the plus is that, eventually, any phone with gps and google maps can use it (computers get in on the action too).
This uses cell-ID which is a general vicinity obtained from ur cell tower's signal. Most of the time, unless you explicitly turn it off, it's on by default. This does not drain much of your batter and is definitely much less than using the actual GPS chip.
ArronL said:
This uses cell-ID which is a general vicinity obtained from ur cell tower's signal. Most of the time, unless you explicitly turn it off, it's on by default. This does not drain much of your batter and is definitely much less than using the actual GPS chip.
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besides that everything else is pretty much the same.... ok.
the advantace that this will have over loopt is that google will be rolling it out to a lot more phone platforms than Loopt is currently on.
makes me think about "big brother is watching" when i read about this app.... i won't be getting it....
MontAlbert said:
makes me think about "big brother is watching" when i read about this app.... i won't be getting it....
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Haha you won't be getting it? Looks like big brother is gonna bend you over & force you to get it! From what I've read, its gonna be part of google maps, correct? You have no choice. When you update to RC33 or whichever update it comes with, your gonna have it next time you open your maps app
jojo_angelov said:
personally i think that rc33 was sent because of the option to check for updates manually. that leads to the conclusion that google is the one responsible for the updates. which leads to the conclusion that there might be a HUGE update comming soon. i would say a month or two.... is it going to be the cupcake? i dont know but i think its going to be a major one
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I wanna believe that this is more than just a tiny taste from google. Part of me thinks that this update is as much about "fixing bugs" as it is building some behind the scenes framework for cupcake.
To me this make sense, upgrade some code now and get everything in place, such as the manually check for updates, to reduce the size of the next install...
I would love to belive that this is true...and part of me thinks we could see it soon.
Mobile World Congress starts on Feb 16th-19th, Google, T-mobile, HTC are all scheduled th be there...could be a coincidence, could not be. Just like the fact that RC33 will be rolled out between Feb 5th and 15th...so everyone should have it by the time MWC rolls around. Again...likely? No. Could it happen? Yes.
MontAlbert said:
makes me think about "big brother is watching" when i read about this app.... i won't be getting it....
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Big brother already can, has been, and unless we enact legislation to limit their power, will be watching!
Having one less app on your phone won't prevent them from tapping in to the carriers networks and yoinking your approximate positioning info (with CDMA triangulation its almost as good as standalone GPS; TDMA/GSM its within 50 meters or so--and yes, WCDMA/3G falls under CDMA..In fact, CDMA relies on GPS and GPS is code-division with spreading and walsh codes and everything...read into it, its interesting stuff)
I say screw it, let me see where my friends are; Big Brother will ALWAYS know where YOU are, unless you pull the battery.
yeah after 9/11 there was legislation that passed that every Cell phone sold in the US needs to have a GPS type of system in it. I think thats were A-GPS came around. But I could be wrong.
mystica555 said:
CDMA relies on GPS and GPS is code-division with spreading and walsh codes and everything.
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CDMA = Code Division Multiple Access
GPS = Global Positioning System
CDMA doesn't use GPS at all
The other way round, it would kinda make sense as GPS uses orthogonal codes (but who doesn't these days...)
TimSykes said:
yeah after 9/11 there was legislation that passed that every Cell phone sold in the US needs to have a GPS type of system in it. I think thats were A-GPS came around. But I could be wrong
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And indeed... you are. Don't belive the stuff they tell you on 24

Android 2.0 Eclair.

I was wondering these few days that whether HTC or Google itself will release Enclair for our Magics or not. Seriously, i was so excited after i watch the google nav beta vid. Enclair seem to work flawlessly. what do you all think about?
I'm excited for one.
I think before we see custom ROM's on 2.0 HTC has to release their own so dev's can start working.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.0-highlights.html
You do know google navigator will only work for the US right?
walie said:
You do know google navigator will only work for the US right?
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i'm not sure also. i saw that video. looks promising.
walie said:
You do know google navigator will only work for the US right?
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Nah, only at first.
As time goes by and the maps have been re-written, they will come out everywhere else also.
What good is US-only navigation on a cell phone? No good if you ask me.
oh that's a shame I didnt' realise it wasn't available outside of USA...... same with Google Voice :*(
Eskibo said:
Nah, only at first.
As time goes by and the maps have been re-written, they will come out everywhere else also.
What good is US-only navigation on a cell phone? No good if you ask me.
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agreed what he said, whats the point if the service is only meant for the US? what about other countries?
Wow I was wondering the same thing too.
this does not have anything to do with sapphire rom development
and its Eclair not Enclair.
Must be the next update Enclair
millowster07 said:
Must be the next update Enclair
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mgorman said:
and its Eclair not Enclair.
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Seriously...
So is anyone over here working on this? Looking for some extra help.
lol "enclair"
why is this thread not locked yet
Guys,
why there are no 2.0 unofficial ROM yet?
I remember long time before 1.5 was released for common users, It was possible to compile and install it from source.
worry said:
Guys,
why there are no 2.0 unofficial ROM yet?
I remember long time before 1.5 was released for common users, It was possible to compile and install it from source.
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Google hasn't released their source and the devs are hard at work trying to fix the million bugs while porting it. Fix one, 5 more appear.
yeah, we still need to wait for the original htc source b4 we can do anything stupid
lol
xOrphenochx said:
Google hasn't released their source and the devs are hard at work trying to fix the million bugs while porting it. Fix one, 5 more appear.
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I've thought that Motorola (which was released last Friday) supposed to have the 2.0. So why google still hiding the sources?
worry said:
I've thought that Motorola (which was released last Friday) supposed to have the 2.0. So why google still hiding the sources?
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with as much as vz has been advertising its the first phone with android 2.0, im sure they paid a good amt. of money to keep it on lock. follow some of the devs on twitter, you will be able to get a good understanding of how its going. thats for eclair at least..........
now enclair, thats another story
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with as much as vz has been advertising its the first phone with android 2.0, im sure they paid a good amt. of money to keep it on lock. follow some of the devs on twitter, you will be able to get a good understanding of how its going. thats for eclair at least..........
now enclair, thats another story
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do i really need a tease for this thread?
art010606 said:
with as much as vz has been advertising its the first phone with android 2.0, im sure they paid a good amt. of money to keep it on lock. follow some of the devs on twitter, you will be able to get a good understanding of how its going. thats for eclair at least..........
now enclair, thats another story
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bahahahahahah oh man

[OTA]Vodafone UK OTA is now available 1.35.161.2

Just recieved a notification and the the OTA for Vodafone UK users is now available for download
update 1.35.161.2 Android 2.3 which is 27.32MB is size.
-application and system enhancements
- UK only: Vodafone Rescue application update.
Kurisu87 said:
Just recieved a notification and the the OTA for Vodafone UK users is now available for download
update 1.35.161.2 Android 2.3 which is 27.32MB is size.
-application and system enhancements
- UK only: Vodafone Rescue application update.
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any change after update ???
speed
lag
touch sensetivity
apps
????????
Im on voda UK and still not getting this... Says no update available. am i doing somthing wrong?!
Updates tend to be staggered so keep trying. This is, of course, assuming you're on 1.27.161.1 at present
Yay!!
I'm downloading now
About time! Though having said that, the unbranded one was only rolled out last week, so not too long after I guess?
Umm... it's only 27.32 Mb???
xdafun4all said:
any change after update ???
speed
lag
touch sensetivity
apps
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I have not yet installed the updade due to being at work (For some reason I cant bum off their wifi network) Hopfully some of the other users who have had a chance to update would be able to answer this question
charmz2k2 said:
Yay!!
I'm downloading now
About time! Though having said that, the unbranded one was only rolled out last week, so not too long after I guess?
Umm... it's only 27.32 Mb???
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It's only a small update, some bug fixes and the like. It's normal
Ah I see -
I'm not sure where I read, but for some reason I thought it was about 330 Mb!?
hmm...
Ok, well it's installed and now loading up
Will give you feedback in a few mins
Hmm....
Nothing spectacular at the moment...
Scrolling is smooth (it was smooth initially anyways though)...
Got a score of 1900 on Quadrant, whereas I was getting 1800 up till now...
Something is synchronising constantly for the last few minutes (the two arrows in a circle), that's about it at the moment
Really need to test this at home - hopefully the signal issue is fixed! (Kept dropping randomly)
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I'm not sure where I read, but for some reason I thought it was about 330 Mb!?
hmm...
Ok, well it's installed and now loading up
Will give you feedback in a few mins
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The full RUU is about 400MB but the OTA is small. The article was for a test OTA and was quite large though
Since update
360 voda music tab in music player. Can't remove it
Video player sound is fixed after testing avi file.
Feels more smother.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA Premium App
360 voda music tab in music player
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Can this not be removed via root or editing the music apk?
vodafone are cheaky bast**ds
That signature looks strangely familiar
Does seem Operators are getting more involved with FW again - really wish they wouldn't!!
EddyOS said:
That signature looks strangely familiar
Does seem Operators are getting more involved with FW again - really wish they wouldn't!!
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You caught me Hope you don't mind , I though my sig looked a buit Naff with nothing in it, lol
but yea, I wish voda would let the OS be, yea ok maybe add an app thats of use, but messing about with stock apps, thats not what I am paying for. I am hoping that rooting s-off will get rid of this vodafone restriction.
I a ( and have asked in the QA section) if it was possible to do what you could do with the old nokias, and thats edit the phones product code so that it would install the offical OTA update (i.e the Eu standard) rather than the branded one.
Also for Ireland
Also now available for Vodafone Ireland. They're possibly the same version of firmware though.
Kurisu87 said:
You caught me Hope you don't mind , I though my sig looked a buit Naff with nothing in it, lol
but yea, I wish voda would let the OS be, yea ok maybe add an app thats of use, but messing about with stock apps, thats not what I am paying for. I am hoping that rooting s-off will get rid of this vodafone restriction.
I a ( and have asked in the QA section) if it was possible to do what you could do with the old nokias, and thats edit the phones product code so that it would install the offical OTA update (i.e the Eu standard) rather than the branded one.
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I don't mind at all mate!!
The gold card that worked on previous HTC handsets would've done the job here too but seems it doesn't with the Sensation at present (which worked in much the same way as old Nokia handsets in that it hid the phone real product code)
hopfully they are working on the gold card, I have seens ome threads regarding development and testing of the gold card, but I assume this is more likly to work when s-off has been achieved.
Once we have S-OFF we can go custom so stock RUUs will be pointless. Just use a custom ROM based on the stock ROM!
Have they done anything sneaky in it that will effect s-off later or is the H-Boot the same? I know the last update for the Legend from Vodafone made it a lot more awkward to root it and at the moment neither Htc nor Vodafone have said if Vodafone will allow s-off. Just a bit scared to update and be ****ed later.
well i asked this on the vodafone forum and the mods replied stating that they don't see why Vodafone would not allow the s-off update to go through. I guess its a good sign when you dont just get the generic 'We don't know at this time'
also I am guessing with a modded rom, this would be better than a stock rom, yet how would you go about getting updates for a modded rom? Just wait for a modder to release an update, also with a modded rom, do they just use the base rom i.e euro standard.

Android/Google starting to piss me off!

I know everyone is going to say,"just root and install custom roms", but I am starting to get really sick and tired of no communication from Google about ICS updates. There's got to be something we can do to get their attention.
Google is the master of ****ty customer service. You will not get anything from them.
Yeap, it's true!! It really piss me off also!! But even so, once they come up with an update...I'll probably wait for a DEV from XDA to put his hands over it
jkbert2 said:
I know everyone is going to say,"just root and install custom roms", but I am starting to get really sick and tired of no communication from Google about ICS updates. There's got to be something we can do to get their attention.
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End of April.
I totally pulled that date out of my ass, but apparently it's more important for people to have a date, even if fictive, than a product working properly. I'm sure there's a reason, mind you.
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End of April.
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You mean April 2013?
wow now AT&T HTC Vivid getting ICS OTA....
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-v...rickle-out-dialer-trick-appears-help-it-along
i don't know about you guys but my phone is BEAST! Rooted, oc'd, and themed... no update will make ics run like the rom I'm running now.
If you have a non-rooted ns and you're waiting for an update, maybe you should consider another phone BC stock will always be crap compared to a customized rom and kernel combo. If I was going to stay stock, I'd get something with touchwiz, sense, or even weaksauce apple.
If you are rooted, what the hell are you complaining about? Have you looked in the development section? Do you not see all the freaking options we have? There's only one other phone in America thats running stable ics... and guess what... its a nexus.
As far as I'm concerned, Google showed love by allowing me to run ics for the past 4 months while phones that have hit the market since then haven't even gotten a whiff of real ice cream. So just chill out and take comfort in knowing that the best is yet to come
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes...
The only reason I am waiting for the damn OTA is for a new preferred radio and a damn fix on my 3G connection going down after being in a bad area for a long period of time. This is why I went back to GB because I need to use my phone reliably.
leepcharge said:
You mean April 2013?
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For Sprint and Verizon, Yes. For AT&T I think he meant April 2020.
leepcharge said:
You mean April 2013?
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Lol. That's all I gotta say.
Coming in the next few weeks
jkbert2 said:
I know everyone is going to say,"just root and install custom roms", but I am starting to get really sick and tired of no communication from Google about ICS updates. There's got to be something we can do to get their attention.
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Google Just confirmed that ICS updates will be released in the next few weeks... Patience
I'll believe it when I see it
Same here. Once bits and bytes are downloading to phone I will believe it...
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA
I just hope that it's an actual update to 4.0.3 and not 4.0.3 restarting.

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