Impossible to root myTouch3G (Fender Edition) - myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development

I seem to be having tons of problems rooting my device.
It was released 1/20/10, I think it has stuff that makes me not be able to do so.
With this information can someone direct me to an appropriate SPL, I already tried "ROM v2.53.707.2 (Engineerings SPL v1.33.2010) - MD5 : F9674D19BE5F949D0D9DC99714D210E3" It said "invalid device" "update fail"
SAPPHIRE PVT 32a SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-2.22.23.02
OCT 21 2009, 22:33:27
Help im a newb.

thebluecoat said:
I seem to be having tons of problems rooting my device.
It was released 1/20/10, I think it has stuff that makes me not be able to do so.
With this information can someone direct me to an appropriate SPL, I already tried "ROM v2.53.707.2 (Engineerings SPL v1.33.2010) - MD5 : F9674D19BE5F949D0D9DC99714D210E3" It said "invalid device" "update fail"
SAPPHIRE PVT 32a SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-2.22.23.02
OCT 21 2009, 22:33:27
Help im a newb.
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u need to get Amon Recovery running on the phone before u can update to the 1.33.2010 ENG SPL. Theres afew diff ways of doing this.
(1)I did it by installing the android devvelopment kit (note u need to install java then update the kit), after setting it up then install windows usb drivers for Androidso that your computer detects the phone as an adb device (not a storage device) then using Dos CMD prompt type "fastboot boot recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.5.2H.img" while in fastboot mode (which u need to download). your phone will not have the amon recovery installed on the phone at this time but it will boot from your PC through to your phone. Kinda neat. use that recovery to flash the 2010 SPL. Once 2010 spl is flashed u r good as gold to flash any new custom recovery and or rom.
(2) If u don't understand all of this try relentless rooter which can be downloaded from XDA here
(3) youtube guide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8BZYEBsSws
Try #3 to some point although u have to change few files because he has a 32B board and u have a 32A.
First decide on a method then ask afew more questions. Help will be just around the corner here

relentless rooter
When i first started using this program it gave me a lot of DOS file not found errors clicking on the buttons so then I took the entire tools folder and lumped it into the relentless rooter program which was calling for like c:/rooter and c:/rooter/root respectively.
I have usb drivers button fine, usb device shows device attached, root files pushes files over to my SDCARD, fastboot seems to be my problem i click it and it says "waiting for device" and just sits.. ugh.. help?

COuld you try and get a dump off the phone?

I was just on my way to the tmobile shop to get one of these and came here to see if people had problems. They are updating it to 2.1 in about may.... but Id like to know if its rootable before I go spend $200 for a pretty phone

Having the same problem here. Seems as though it says Invaild ID when trying to downgrade. ANy help witht his would b great. SO much new reading from the g1 to this.. I dont understand half of it.

crypysmoker said:
Having the same problem here. Seems as though it says Invaild ID when trying to downgrade. ANy help witht his would b great. SO much new reading from the g1 to this.. I dont understand half of it.
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We should stick together on this one since we are both having the same issue man! I also have the same problem! When I tried other SPL's to downgrade after no luck with one with a higher number than the one installed I get errors like "invalid id" etc...
I really feel as though all of these SPL's won't apply to us since we have 32A boards on "old radios" as I have read so far.
I am not even able to do the "one-click" root because I follow videos/tutorials to a T and mine always says "backup failed" and the top is always greyed out without me able to click it. Even if i touch to the right of the bottom button and get the top button to light up it still says backup failed or flash failed. It's not happening. I wish we had some attention on this.
I rooted the G1 EASILY i'm quite capable of doing this but im getting errors everywhere like a shot up R2D2

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=579328
Followed those instructions to a T and got "invalid model ID!" after trying to apply sappimg.nbh..

I had issues using the one touch root on my Rogers htc magic that i got about a month ago. It kept saying backup failed so i tried the older version of the one touch root software. It again said backup failed so i kinda poked around at my phone and and rebooted it then tried it again and it managed to backup everything. So i would keep poking with the one touch root and try one of the older versions.

You guys need to understand that this device is a 32A Magic.
The radio version can be 3.22 or 2.22, but it's still 32A.
You will need to goldcard this phone if you expect any results. If you are 100% sure that the goldcard method has failed, then you have to wait until the phone is rooted by other means.
(I have a 32A Magic that I have installed the Fender Edition 2.22 radio onto. I was able to flash the Fender Edition ROM with no issues. That leads me to believe that the Fender Edition MyTouch is the very first 32A Magic shipped with a 1.6 Donut OS)
I do not own a Fender MyTouch, so I am by no means an expert, but I want to help steer your discussions towards a proper solution for rooting the phone. (If anyone wants to send me a Fender MyTouch, go ahead )

cursordroid said:
You guys need to understand that this device is a 32A Magic.
The radio version can be 3.22 or 2.22, but it's still 32A.
You will need to goldcard this phone if you expect any results. If you are 100% sure that the goldcard method has failed, then you have to wait until the phone is rooted by other means.
(I have a 32A Magic that I have installed the Fender Edition 2.22 radio onto. I was able to flash the Fender Edition ROM with no issues. That leads me to believe that the Fender Edition MyTouch is the very first 32A Magic shipped with a 1.6 Donut OS)
I do not own a Fender MyTouch, so I am by no means an expert, but I want to help steer your discussions towards a proper solution for rooting the phone. (If anyone wants to send me a Fender MyTouch, go ahead )
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I tried creating a goldcard, I have the 16gb sandisk, 4gb sandisk, and a 2gb kingston.
I tried all of the cards following these methods, but when I insert it into the phone it says "damaged sd card" I have to format and try again or what?
I used the kingston solely because a person had luck with it. I got my goldcard.img made 2 zeros in the CID, did offsets correctly pasted and saved. what am I doing wrong?
What I have been doing is using the mytouch, mounting the sd card, and doing it like that since I do not have an SDcard reader on my desktop computer, but i dont think that would mess anything up. get back to me, I want to try goldcard since you had luck with it and the fedner, please!

thebluecoat said:
I tried creating a goldcard, I have the 16gb sandisk, 4gb sandisk, and a 2gb kingston.
I tried all of the cards following these methods, but when I insert it into the phone it says "damaged sd card" I have to format and try again or what?
I used the kingston solely because a person had luck with it. I got my goldcard.img made 2 zeros in the CID, did offsets correctly pasted and saved. what am I doing wrong?
What I have been doing is using the mytouch, mounting the sd card, and doing it like that since I do not have an SDcard reader on my desktop computer, but i dont think that would mess anything up. get back to me, I want to try goldcard since you had luck with it and the fedner, please!
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Nope.. your doing it correctly. I have had the same results. tried 2 8gb, a 4gb, a 2gb and the 16gb it came with.. a no go on any of them for a gold card. guess Ill just have to live with it till somethign else comes along and figures it out.

thebluecoat said:
I tried creating a goldcard, I have the 16gb sandisk, 4gb sandisk, and a 2gb kingston.
I tried all of the cards following these methods, but when I insert it into the phone it says "damaged sd card" I have to format and try again or what?
I used the kingston solely because a person had luck with it. I got my goldcard.img made 2 zeros in the CID, did offsets correctly pasted and saved. what am I doing wrong?
What I have been doing is using the mytouch, mounting the sd card, and doing it like that since I do not have an SDcard reader on my desktop computer, but i dont think that would mess anything up. get back to me, I want to try goldcard since you had luck with it and the fedner, please!
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experience from the forum shows that most people go wrong on this step:
16) Install and launch HxD Hex Editor program
17) Go to Extra tab > Open Disk. Under Physical disk, select Removable Disk (Must be your SD card), uncheck “Open as Readonly), click OK.
people seems to be selecting "Logical Disk" (i think thats the other option, please corect me if im wrong) instead of "Physical Disk", there for getting the "damaged sd card" error

donjo9 said:
experience from the forum shows that most people go wrong on this step:
16) Install and launch HxD Hex Editor program
17) Go to Extra tab > Open Disk. Under Physical disk, select Removable Disk (Must be your SD card), uncheck “Open as Readonly), click OK.
people seems to be selecting "Logical Disk" (i think thats the other option, please corect me if im wrong) instead of "Physical Disk", there for getting the "damaged sd card" error
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Nope.. There is open.. Open Disk and open disk image. I was up till 3am trying each sd card over and over with same results. But now knowing that the SPL is hiher then the downgragables I belive we are just going to have to wait till these are out more. Unfourtunatly, it being a limited edition... we may be screwed lol. Ive got another pc and 2 last sd cards to try today. lol Ive even got a 32mb one... and if that one is the only one that takes the hex edit ill be so mad lol cause it wont fit the nbh file.
EDIT- IM SUCH A DUMBASS lol.. I see what you meant by logical and physical now. I had been clicking logical disk allllll night and always having to reformat the card. Then.. since it was so late when I was doing this, Ikept using the same goldcard.img for all the sd cards lol. So I tried again today, made the gol card correctly and it still was found by the PC... But it stlll gives device error as before. Ill go through getting the cid # from the other cards later when im bored.
My main problems with now not wanting to root this phone...
1. The music player will be gone.. it is nice.
2. 2.0/2.1 is supposed to be offcialy released for it within the next few weeks according to 2 of the Tmobile guys I alked to, one being the regional manager.
If anyone figures it out im all for trying to again.... But for now Ill learn to live with my vanilla dounut. Mmmmm Vanilla Doughnuts
lol
But I cant ever give up on anythign like this so I give it about 5min before im bored enough to start again.

crypysmoker said:
Nope.. There is open.. Open Disk and open disk image. I was up till 3am trying each sd card over and over with same results. But now knowing that the SPL is hiher then the downgragables I belive we are just going to have to wait till these are out more. Unfourtunatly, it being a limited edition... we may be screwed lol. Ive got another pc and 2 last sd cards to try today. lol Ive even got a 32mb one... and if that one is the only one that takes the hex edit ill be so mad lol cause it wont fit the nbh file.
EDIT- IM SUCH A DUMBASS lol.. I see what you meant by logical and physical now. I had been clicking logical disk allllll night and always having to reformat the card. Then.. since it was so late when I was doing this, Ikept using the same goldcard.img for all the sd cards lol. So I tried again today, made the gol card correctly and it still was found by the PC... But it stlll gives device error as before. Ill go through getting the cid # from the other cards later when im bored.
My main problems with now not wanting to root this phone...
1. The music player will be gone.. it is nice.
2. 2.0/2.1 is supposed to be offcialy released for it within the next few weeks according to 2 of the Tmobile guys I alked to, one being the regional manager.
If anyone figures it out im all for trying to again.... But for now Ill learn to live with my vanilla dounut. Mmmmm Vanilla Doughnuts
lol
But I cant ever give up on anythign like this so I give it about 5min before im bored enough to start again.
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Dude im dying every day staying up until 3am as well trying to pwn this phone. I go to bed sleep, wake up, and sign onto xda to see wtf is what. It's like another dude somewhere out there is having the SAME issues.
I work for t-mo as I said, I have not heard about any new OS plans for fender edition mytouch / mytouch 3g.
Im 100% positive that im creating goldcard correctly, I have 3 unique CID's that I reverse, replace with two zeros, use the correct image, open and uncheck read only on the removable disk, open goldcard, copy offset 00-0017 (however many zeros it said, copy paste save, close) plug back in, "you need to format this card" -windows "damaged sd card" -mytouch.

thebluecoat said:
Dude im dying every day staying up until 3am as well trying to pwn this phone. I go to bed sleep, wake up, and sign onto xda to see wtf is what. It's like another dude somewhere out there is having the SAME issues.
I work for t-mo as I said, I have not heard about any new OS plans for fender edition mytouch / mytouch 3g.
Im 100% positive that im creating goldcard correctly, I have 3 unique CID's that I reverse, replace with two zeros, use the correct image, open and uncheck read only on the removable disk, open goldcard, copy offset 00-0017 (however many zeros it said, copy paste save, close) plug back in, "you need to format this card" -windows "damaged sd card" -mytouch.
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The press release from tmobile states that 2.1 will be coming to all devices that will support it. Meaning without root size wise, which Im thinking may toss the g1 out for 2.1, but maybe not 2.0. But I was specifly told also that 2.1 will be released for this mytouch, and it is also, obviously, the first to be released with 1.6 donut on it.
Also.. When you get the format disk error.. are you looking down the list on the **** drive to the bottom where it says Physical/removable? I found that the only time it gives me the format error is when I open it in hex where it says Logical rather then physical. If you go to the bottom and hit the physical one, and paste and save I can still open the sd card on the pc and phone.... BUT, it still will not downgrade.
EDIT- Since im still new to this.... Ive noticed that most rooting takes downgrading first. Now, does this mean that the ohones NAND's are set up like say the PSP where the IPL files can be changed to only allow certain firmware? Can it be that having the first phone with a base rom of 1.6 make it to where we cant go down past 1.6? Im still teetering on weather I should put it back in the box and use my G1 till the offcial 2.0/2.1 comes out or keep trying. But I woul dhate damaging it trying to get it to do something it cant.
Thanks to anyone else who gets one to test, I I had the money I would buy a dev one just for this purpose.

crypysmoker said:
But I was specifly told also that 2.1 will be released for this mytouch, and it is also, obviously, the first to be released with 1.6 donut on it.
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If you are referring to the Fender edition as "the first to be released with 1.6 donut on it" then you are incorrect.
I have a non fender edition that I purchased 2 weeks ago with donut 1.6, DCR92 build.
Apparently there are some rooting issues with DCR92/1.6donut/1.33.0007spl....from what I understand.

dsimages said:
If you are referring to the Fender edition as "the first to be released with 1.6 donut on it" then you are incorrect.
I have a non fender edition that I purchased 2 weeks ago with donut 1.6, DCR92 build.
Apparently there are some rooting issues with DCR92/1.6donut/1.33.0007spl....from what I understand.
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my SPL ends with 0013, not sure how much of a diffrence that makes. But I honestly thought i read in these forums that this was the first made with 1.6 and not updated to. but maybe I read wrong. All I know is that no trick works as of yet. Ill start again tonight when the kids go to sleep, but for it being a 32a board, I dont really see to many roms I wana try lol

So when you make the gold card does your phone read it or it stops before it loads the file from it? it sounds like the gold card is not created corectly...
The android version is irelevant so is the radio. to load anything, you need engeneering SPL. That will allow you to load any image,(radio,boot,recovery,system...) fastboot with full functionality.

zambezy said:
So when you make the gold card does your phone read it or it stops before it loads the file from it? it sounds like the gold card is not created corectly...
The android version is irelevant so is the radio. to load anything, you need engeneering SPL. That will allow you to load any image,(radio,boot,recovery,system...) fastboot with full functionality.
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it goes through most of the process of reading the sappimg file and once the prgress bar reaches the end and it goes through checking and all that it stops with the error. Also trying to get into fastboot it give the error that a perfected spl gives so done on both accounts. Ive now made what I think is a working goldcard but dont know if I want to proceed if im going to destroy it if I can get anything back on it.
also... I think im done with it for now till a smarted person gets this done. I really believe that this 1.6 version is a bit different then others, and also the spl seems to be a pain in the arse. I really cant afford a bricked phone, much less one I waited a very long time to get. I tried lol, but in the end my ADD defeated me.

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JesusFreke please read this.

Well today i had everything setup like i wanted. I had JFv1.41 rc33 version install on my g1 and a custom Theme. I wanted to switch my them for a new more looking one. So i download a new custom and install it. to my surprise i install an old them which i install. Boot the phone and got the T Mobile G1 logo and that it i get stoke there. So here why i made this tread to tell JesusFreke in the next or when ever he could add a USb toggle in recovery mode. I am stoke with this till 2 days. This will help allot of first g1 noob. Thanks for your time.
ok
A: next time make sure you download a theme that works with your version of JF
B: why didnt you put this under JF's thread?
C: if you have an update.zip(or something that can be renamed and used as such) you can go to the recovery console, type "mount sdcard", then use the basic linux commands to put it on the top directory of the sdcard and restart and load it up, thus fixing your phone. If not, you should keep on somewhere on your phone just in case such a need arises
[email protected] said:
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A: next time make sure you download a theme that works with your version of JF
B: why didnt you put this under JF's thread?
C: if you have an update.zip(or something that can be renamed and used as such) you can go to the recovery console, type "mount sdcard", then use the basic linux commands to put it on the top directory of the sdcard and restart and load it up, thus fixing your phone. If not, you should keep on somewhere on your phone just in case such a need arises
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So you want to be a smart ha here i go.
A) People can make mistake
B)I did that because i wanted to make Jf read this thread and it will help people like me who don't really have the knowledge on using Linux easy.
C)I don't really know that much of using linux like u.
I'm sure many people send JF many PM's wanting the same thing as you do. Do you think he has the time or want to answer a question that someone else might be able to answer?
Making mistakes is something you need to be more careful about. Having root means the phone will let you do whatever you want. This means safety features that are made to protect you from yourself are not active. Read about what you are doing before doing it. That is the message n00bs need to be given.
Put the sd card in your computer, place the .nbh file on it, reboot into bootloader and downgrade your phone. Then work your way back up to JF 1.4x and read more carefully before you install themes. I know my way around the G1 very well (if I dont say so myself) but I still do not install themes. They are nice, but they are not at the point where installation is as easy or system friendly as they could be.
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C)I don't really know that much of using linux like u.
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I've never really used Linux myself, as it seems more complicated than it's worth most of the time, but I've had no problems so far using a rooted G1, or installing custom firmwares, etc. I haven't tried themes, but from what little I've read into it, not only does it seem fairly straight forward, but I've also noticed quite a few of them warn the user that they need to be running the Lite version of JF 1.4x before they install a theme because otherwise there simply isn't room. That said, it's not up to JF to babysit everyone that decides to delve into the unknown.
I dont understand what your problem is,
if u dont know about linux buy an microsd to SD adapter, extract microsd from your phone and use a computer to copy JF's latest update.zip to your card and then upgrade usual way
what is the problem?
JesusFreke if your reading this I just wanted to say "Hi" and "Thanks" and ... and.... Ummm ...
Everyone in here relax.
Try not to direct threads to a specific person. This is a developement thread. You want a specific someone to read something, send them a PM. If you are lucky he will read it, if he doesnt have them turned off.

Unable to downgrade an RC9 model DREA110

When i follow all of the sticked guides, and the ones in the announcements i keep ending up with the same screen..
I have tried this with 2 different sd cards, both 2gb scandisk ones. Followed the guides..
Here is what i have tried so far, even though its listed in the guides..
Formated sd card both trying through the usb cable on the phone, and on an sd card reader on xp. to FAT 32, with allocation of 4096 (might have mispelled the number), done this using both the built in format function gui, and the cmd way using /fs and /a parameters.
I've tried both the RC7 and the RC29 versions of the DREAIMG.nbh file, even tried renameing to dreaimg.nbh, dreaimg.NBH and DREAIMG.NBH.
When i hit cam key + power, i get the first screen with a RGB and white row, and then it loads the bootloader aka grey screen. And when it gets past the second stage of loading it, i get a red number 00028002 followed by a blue text, Not allow.
Now it throws me back to the RGBW screen, with the Serial0 text to me..
The text otherwise available to me on the rgbw screen is as follows.
DREA110 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.0000
CPLD-4
RAID0-1.22.14.11
sep 2 2008.
When i check the about on the phone to get the firmware stats etc i get the following.
Firmware version
1.1
Baseband version
62.33.20.08U_1.22.14.11
Kernl version
2.6.25-01845-g85d4f0d
[email protected] #27
Build number
kila_eu-user 1.1 TMI-RC9 128600
ota-rel-keys,release-keys
I hope you guys have a solution for me to hack this nice little gadget, so that i can install my apps on the sd card, and not use space on the phone it self!! (and i gotta admit, being able to use a linux kernl, ex the ubuntu kernl, would sound beautiful to my geeky eyes!)
after the format of the SD-card you did not mention the qmat-procedure with a WM-device plugged in and using activesync.
i got that same error when i did not create a goldcard-image via qmat.
After using the qmat-steps it worked like a charm.
Greets,
JP
Cuz i couldnt find a way to get hold of a free Qmat program, i read around that in order to do the steps, one would need to buy the full version. In order to make the goldsomething..
Is there a link to the guide, that obviously made you successfull ?
Just got hold of an older version now However, when i hit save to wince sd, it goes throug with it and gives an ok, but i dont see any files on the sd card... logic ?
You don´t see the file goldcard.img on the card afterwards, but try it, it should work then!
Nvm It worked lol! Had to use Case Sensitive.. Yuck..
theorion said:
Nvm It worked lol! Had to use Case Sensitive.. Yuck..
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can you tell me which you did wrong before?
because I met the same problem as you met.
THX alot
xwxxp said:
can you tell me which you did wrong before?
because I met the same problem as you met.
THX alot
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You need to be 100% sure that the name of the file is exactly as it states, capital filename, small extension!
If u use a windows platform use cmd and verify by doing a dir or something
I guess the terminal would suffice for linux based platforms, as for mac i dont know!
how do I get out of the bootloader screen. I am on the same one as him but mine says DREA100. I have no options just stuck on the RGBW screen
Tyco, I found your message while searching for the answer. I think this thread is about rooting European G1s. I'm still searching!
okay cool! why do I always run into problems with doing these things ...

From Cupcake to Hero (Magic) > what do I need to do?

Hi guys.
I know that the various aspects of this post are covered in other posts, but I haven't seen anything that acts like a step by step or repository for this info.
Basically, I have a VodafoneAU HTC Magic with 1.5 on it, and I'd like to flash on it one of the Hero roms. I used to have a Diamond and then Diamond Pro, but I know little about Android at this point.
My biggest fear is bricking the phone, followed by not being able to restore my previous rom (and even apps and settings would be awesome too, though not essential) should something go pear shaped.
I know the steps I need to follow are:
1 - Root the phone
2 - Back up ROM (settings/apps too?)
3 - Flash new ROM
4 - ?????
5 - Profit (in the form of enjoying an awesome Hero ROM)
Jokes aside, if someone can point me in the right direction for the first 3 steps, that'd be great. Even if it's as simple as
1 - Root it using this post (link)
2 - Use this App to back it up
3 - etc..
Like I said, I know this info is probably covered elsewhere, but not in one place (that I've found) and I'd hope this post could serve as a guide for anyone else looking to go the same steps as me.
Thanks for any help anyone can give.
Cheers.
First off, you don't need to root your phone, update the SPL, or any of that scary stuff. Which is great, cus that's the riskiest part of it all. Briefly, the procedure is as follows:
1. Boot your phone in fastboot mode (power the phone off, then hold the back button as you power it back on). You'll see a white screen with some text, the word "FASTBOOT" and some androids at the bottom.
2. Note the version numbers you see at the top of the screen - it'll look something like:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.3300.0009 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17
3. Download the ROM you want to upgrade to for your phone's version, rename the zip to update.zip and put it on the root of your phone's SD card
4. Boot a recovery ROM using fastboot (from the Android SDK)
5. Use Nandroid Backup to back up your current firmware to the SD card
6. Copy that backup (and the rest of the contents of your SD card) to your PC, just in case. This is the last point at which you can back out!
7. Use the recovery ROM to wipe your phone's existing firmware
8. Use the recovery ROM to apply the update.zip from the SD card
9. Wait for the update to complete
10. Reboot your phone and enjoy your new ROM!
I did this on my Vodafone NZ HTC Magic (PVT32B) running 1.5 yesterday and am enjoying Hero on it right now, barring a few quirks. If you like, I'll put together a detailed step-by-step of the procedure.
KarrdeNZ said:
First off, you don't need to root your phone....
I did this on my Vodafone NZ HTC Magic (PVT32B) running 1.5 yesterday and am enjoying Hero on it right now, barring a few quirks. If you like, I'll put together a detailed step-by-step of the procedure.
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Awesome, cheers. I'll have a crack at it tonight then.
So Am I correct then in assuming step 5 backs up my phone as it is now? So essentially if I roll back it will be exactly as it was? Installed apps, settings, contacts (although sync sorts that out) and all?
papalazarou said:
So Am I correct then in assuming step 5 backs up my phone as it is now? So essentially if I roll back it will be exactly as it was? Installed apps, settings, contacts (although sync sorts that out) and all?
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Nope. Nandroid only backs up the existing firmware (and I believe some settings). It doesn't back up texts, contacts (though those should be synced with your Google Account anyway), or apps. For the most part, apps are easy to retrieve from the Market, but if you have any you got from elsewhere you'll need to reacquire them. The app MyBackup Pro seems to be recommended on these forums for more thorough backups, though it isn't free (and I've not used it myself). As my phone was (relatively) new I wasn't too fussed about keeping backups of anything except the firmware.
I've done a couple of Nandroid backups and restores and it restores everything (except SD card), meaning applications, settings, everything is restored.
Also, I highly recommend RAv's recovery (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530492). Use it to make your Nandroid backup .
Wysie said:
I've done a couple of Nandroid backups and restores and it restores everything (except SD card), meaning applications, settings, everything is restored.
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I've heard differing reports on what Nandroid does and doesn't back up, so was erring on the side of caution. But if it backs up everything, awesome.
And yep, that's the recovery ROM I used. I'm writing up the step by step instructions at the moment - will post em when they're done.
KarrdeNZ said:
I've heard differing reports on what Nandroid does and doesn't back up, so was erring on the side of caution. But if it backs up everything, awesome.
And yep, that's the recovery ROM I used. I'm writing up the step by step instructions at the moment - will post em when they're done.
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depends how you restore it- you can restore system.img only and not get all your data etc (using fastboot) but if you fastboot data.img as well then you get it all..... the new recovery restores it all...
KarrdeNZ said:
First off, you don't need to root your phone, update the SPL, or any of that scary stuff. Which is great, cus that's the riskiest part of it all. Briefly, the procedure is as follows:
1. Boot your phone in fastboot mode (power the phone off, then hold the back button as you power it back on). You'll see a white screen with some text, the word "FASTBOOT" and some androids at the bottom.
2. Note the version numbers you see at the top of the screen - it'll look something like:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.3300.0009 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17
3. Download the ROM you want to upgrade to for your phone's version, rename the zip to update.zip and put it on the root of your phone's SD card
4. Boot a recovery ROM using fastboot (from the Android SDK)
5. Use Nandroid Backup to back up your current firmware to the SD card
6. Copy that backup (and the rest of the contents of your SD card) to your PC, just in case. This is the last point at which you can back out!
7. Use the recovery ROM to wipe your phone's existing firmware
8. Use the recovery ROM to apply the update.zip from the SD card
9. Wait for the update to complete
10. Reboot your phone and enjoy your new ROM!
I did this on my Vodafone NZ HTC Magic (PVT32B) running 1.5 yesterday and am enjoying Hero on it right now, barring a few quirks. If you like, I'll put together a detailed step-by-step of the procedure.
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I am a noob...Why don't need to FLASH SPL and ROOT the phone?? But u can still flash into HERO rom. I would like to have a full flash procedure from you,thanks. My machine is running on PVT32A.
snowhk said:
I am a noob...Why don't need to FLASH SPL and ROOT the phone?? But u can still flash into HERO rom.
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You can load the Hero ROM without replacing your SPL (in most cases) or rooting, so why replace it if you don't need to? I've done it myself without doing so and it's working fine.
My guide is now ready - check it out at http://www.karrderized.com/romguide/.
KarrdeNZ said:
You can load the Hero ROM without replacing your SPL (in most cases) or rooting, so why replace it if you don't need to? I've done it myself without doing so and it's working fine.
My guide is now ready - check it out at http://www.karrderized.com/romguide/.
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Just ask for curiosity..But why did others do so?? Thanks. You provided a clear guide.^^
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Just ask for curiosity..But why did others do so?? Thanks. You provided a clear guide.^^
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I think some SPL versions prevent ROM updates and so need to be replaced with versions that do, but I'm not sure. I'll let someone more knowledgeable take that question.
And thanks, I tried to make the guide as easy as possible
KarrdeNZ said:
I think some SPL versions prevent ROM updates and so need to be replaced with versions that do, but I'm not sure. I'll let someone more knowledgeable take that question.
And thanks, I tried to make the guide as easy as possible
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My device shows the followings:
Sapphire PVT 32A Ship S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0009(SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Would my SPL version prevent the update?Coz I afraid of bricking my phone>< I got too many questions. Hope u can have a help. Thanks.
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My device shows the followings:
Sapphire PVT 32A Ship S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0009(SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Would my SPL version prevent the update?Coz I afraid of bricking my phone>< I got too many questions. Hope u can have a help. Thanks.
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According to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529019 you should be fine. If you're unable to boot the recovery ROM (step 8 in my guide) then stop there, as I believe that's about where problematic SPLs first show signs of trouble. Just make sure you get ROMS for 32A.
KarrdeNZ, thanks for your fantastic guide! Are you OK to put it up as a stick thread within this forum?
i believe you can only do this with signed roms but this is only from what i have read on here, but to be fair its not hard to root anyway and aslong as your not a dumbass its pretty straight forward and can benefit from bluetooth file sharing and apps2sd and tethering so deffo worth it, opens up your phone to numerous possibilities
eva_d said:
KarrdeNZ, thanks for your fantastic guide! Are you OK to put it up as a stick thread within this forum?
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Sure, not a problem I'd prefer the thread link to the guide so that new versions are easy to find, but whatever works.
KarrdeNZ, mate I followed your guide to the letter. I got all the way down to step 11 and then a problem occurred.
When I clicked 'Apply sdcard:update.zip' it just said cannot find or cannot load update.zip, or something like that, then said operation aborted?
I was trying to install the EXACT same ROM as you, I downloaded it to my laptop, renamed it update.zip and moved it to the root of the SD card.
Yet it didn't work, I can't for the life of me think where it's gone wrong as everything else up to that point had gone smoothly.
Any idea's?
Well I tried downloading the same file again. No luck this time either!
This is what it says when I click the install from sdcard button:
--install from sdcard...
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
E: Can't open /sdcard/update.zip
(no such file or directory)
Installation aborted.
Now I get that it's saying that it can't find the file but I really don't understand why? I mean the file is there, do I have to unzip the file onto my computer 1st and then put it on the sdcard?
I thought i just stuck the zipped file onto the root of the card making sure i renamed it 'update.zip'
Please help me out guys, thanks.
The exact thing happened to me; and I realized I was dumb and had named the file "update.zip", when in fact it should just be "update". The file extension should come naturally since the file is still compressed.
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Well I tried downloading the same file again. No luck this time either!
This is what it says when I click the install from sdcard button:
--install from sdcard...
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
E: Can't open /sdcard/update.zip
(no such file or directory)
Installation aborted.
Now I get that it's saying that it can't find the file but I really don't understand why? I mean the file is there, do I have to unzip the file onto my computer 1st and then put it on the sdcard?
I thought i just stuck the zipped file onto the root of the card making sure i renamed it 'update.zip'
Please help me out guys, thanks.
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KarredeNZ, THANK YOU for your awesome tutorial!! I looked through so many other pages for instructions and they went totally over my head. Your tutorial was the best and easiest to follow.

Now that i completed the Root and flash of custom ROM, questions...

OK i think i completed the ROOT process. my main quesiton is how do i know that my phone is actually rooted? is it one of those scenarios where if i was able ot flash Cyanogens 3.9.10 ROM and also FLash the normal Mytouch Splash screen to replace the red Vodafone splash screen that my phone i indeed rooted? is there any way to tell for sure that my Mytouch is indeed rooted i gues is the simple question.
my next question is how hard is it to now move forward on to one of the more indepth HERO type ROMS that require the 3 partition SD cards? i would like to try this soon bfore i get too attached with my current ROM and start loading the phone up.
and my last question if anyone can answer is how to i store apps on to the SD card and not the internal memory? i understand im not supposed to download any 3d party app2sd programs.
thank so much for the wonderful work from the members of this site! so much knowledge on here.
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OK i think i completed the ROOT process. my main quesiton is how do i know that my phone is actually rooted? is it one of those scenarios where if i was able ot flash Cyanogens 3.9.10 ROM and also FLash the normal Mytouch Splash screen to replace the red Vodafone splash screen that my phone i indeed rooted? is there any way to tell for sure that my Mytouch is indeed rooted i gues is the simple question.
my next question is how hard is it to now move forward on to one of the more indepth HERO type ROMS that require the 3 partition SD cards? i would like to try this soon bfore i get too attached with my current ROM and start loading the phone up.
and my last question if anyone can answer is how to i store apps on to the SD card and not the internal memory? i understand im not supposed to download any 3d party app2sd programs.
thank so much for the wonderful work from the members of this site! so much knowledge on here.
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RA's recovery image has a SD format option for the 3 partitions... all you would have to do is boot to the recovery and hit that selection when your SD card is in and it will prepare it for you... i can confirm it works as qtek was skeptical in his post...
if you completed all the steps properly, your phone is rooted... if yuo wanted to you could try and adb shell to the phone when connected to usb and type in the superuser command, which i forget offthe top of my head...
if you plan on moving to any of the hero rom, they typically require the 3 partions for file swap and apps2sd storage, so if you do that, theres nothing else you'll have to do...
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RA's recovery image has a SD format option for the 3 partitions... all you would have to do is boot to the recovery and hit that selection when your SD card is in and it will prepare it for you... i can confirm it works as qtek was skeptical in his post...
if you completed all the steps properly, your phone is rooted... if yuo wanted to you could try and adb shell to the phone when connected to usb and type in the superuser command, which i forget offthe top of my head...
if you plan on moving to any of the hero rom, they typically require the 3 partions for file swap and apps2sd storage, so if you do that, theres nothing else you'll have to do...
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thanks you for the explanation.
now im hoping someone else can at least tell me the sure fire way to determine if my Mytouch really is rooted.
nextelbuddy said:
now im hoping someone else can at least tell me the sure fire way to determine if my Mytouch really is rooted.
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open a command prompt type adb root, if it says it's already running as root, you're golden.
Start asking your questions in the right sub-forum (Q&A) (Theme) or even in (General), or i will be forced to ban you for 3 days or till you learn.
Thanks
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[Q] Ruu Shooter hboot downgrading help.

I'm trying to root my phone and its very frustrating because I am new to all of this and I'm trying to learn everything as I go. I may have a very simple problem but for me its just not clicking! I was in the middle of rooting my evo 3d which was going fine until i realized i had to down grade hboot 1.5 to 1.4, SO, I have been following a tutorial on htcevohacks and am stuck!
When I copy the Ruu Shooter file to my sd card it wont unzip correctly and I get this error message saying "access to the compressed (zipfolder) is denied." I thought it might be a bad download so I have tried numerous sources and older versions. Nothing is working and I'm losing my mind. Like I said I am learning so I don't even comprehend the problem.
See here to make sure you're doing everything correctly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695.
The first step is where I'm stuck I guess. I cant post a screenshot of the erroe message I get because I'm brand new here. The zip file that I need to copy to my sd card get denied. I have done that and tried different files but when I reboot it checks the PG86IMG.zip file then takes me to the boot screen and NOT the screen where I have the option to update HTC
I put the screen shot on imgur the title is RUU Shooter zip file
i know im a noob but im really trying. im reading up on as much as I can do I HAVE to have linux OS for this to work?
yaycobdean said:
i know im a noob but im really trying. im reading up on as much as I can do I HAVE to have linux OS for this to work?
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Yes. You could just run it from a live CD. Also, you could try a different SD card.

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