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Read everyfing i can find on Bigstorage and still no success

Hi I know the big storage hack is plastered all over this forum but i still cant get it right.Some one please help me!
Ive got a magician with rom version 1.13.00 WWE radio v. 1.12.00 (i used to have 1.12.00 but i upgraded it by accident.<I woz finkin of it anyway>)
I fink Ive tried every procedure possible but always have problems but basically this is what ive done:
1.Using OS image tool ive copied my rom to pc.
2.Ive changed the 80 00 00 thingy to b8 01.
3.Ive tried to use the os image tool to write it back t ppc but it comes with a usb/communication error in programme A.Im using this way because I have only 32mb mmc card.
Any help would be much appreciated,
Thanks

wiki
Try the wiki (top right link on the page) & go to the magician section. It contains a description howto patch a shipped-rom, the one you used to upgrade to 1.13WWE, & get BS. Apperently you missed this method.
Cheers, M

I already have all of them files.Wen I patch it the size goes right up then 'programme a' doesnt copy it over becuase its too big.it has 2 b excactly 32 i fink and after i patch it the size changes.
My main problem is getting the rom over 2 the magician.Since I dont have a card the only 2 ways i can fink are using osimage tool or program a, both of these im having problems with.I have roms that i have patched and changed the 416 bytes to my roms.I have roms that were patched and ive changed to my roms.I have roms made using byte copy.I just cant get any of them over!!
Thanks 4 ure help,
Gareth

I already have all of them files.Wen I patch it the size goes right up then 'programme a' doesnt copy it over becuase its too big.it has 2 b excactly 32 i fink and after i patch it the size changes.
My main problem is getting the rom over 2 the magician.Since I dont have a card the only 2 ways i can fink are using osimage tool or program a, both of these im having problems with.I have roms that i have patched and changed the 416 bytes to my roms.I have roms that were patched and ive changed to my roms.I have roms made using byte copy.I just cant get any of them over!!
Thanks 4 ure help,
Gareth

Stop,
You're going in the wrong direction. The BS from shipped-rom method is about patching the provider supplied exe file. & after the patch you run it like a regular rom-upgrade. No SD or MMC involved!!! It's a rom-update via USB like the normal update.
pls read it once again @ the wiki.

ok thanks im trying that now.Im stuck on getting nbfdec to run.Ive extracted it to the unzipped rom folder.I open ms-dos command prompt and drag and drop the .exe on the command line to save typing the path.The program runs but then it crashes.Can anyone help me?

Try putting everything in "C:\BS" saves a lot of typing errors including filename handling.

Ive done that now but I dont know how to execute the command.Do you think you could type the whole command for me?When I open command prompt it says this c:\documents and settings\rod simpson\> ive tryped typing in that command but i dont know how to put it in with the path etc.
Sorry for going on and on I cant get my head round it!
Thanks

garethsimpsonuk said:
Ive done that now but I dont know how to execute the command.Do you think you could type the whole command for me?When I open command prompt it says this c:\documents and settings\rod simpson\> ive tryped typing in that command but i dont know how to put it in with the path etc.
Sorry for going on and on I cant get my head round it!
Thanks
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Hi Rod,
To go to C:\BS from your personal doc&settings type on the commandline:
cd \ [Enter]
now you should be in C:\
then type:
cd bs [Enter]
now you should be in C:\BS
Works for other directories too.
Cheers, M

Thanks, that helped me a lot.Ive done everything els now so I converted it back to nbf and then executed the maupgrade_noid.It checked device info then displayed the rom to and from screen and both were blank.I proceeded and it displayed the 'success' screen but nothing had actually happened on the ppc.Ive tried the other upgrade program and the one thats cracked on the site.
Any help would be much appreciated
Thanks

Did you reset after the update process finished? & if so did it boot normally? & if so did you look at the internal storage folder size? Cause that's the only thing that's changed & the ext-rom has disappeared. Oh & you shouldn't see the customization start after a hard-reset...
btw rom to & from shouldn't be blank, pls run the update program without patch cause I think the editing somehow invalidated the shipped-rom. The original upgrade program should work & if so you know what's going on. If the original program fails there might be something with your device.
So start the plain shipped-rom first to find out..

Thankyou!Its worked!!
I went from scratch and downloaded all the files again.This time i didnt put my own header in the file because i thought thats where i'm going wrong.My devicedata.txt file looked like gibberish to me and it wouldnt copy and paste in to hex editor.So i just left it.I changed the 2 values in the code, converted it and flashed it.Will not having my header cause problems?My storage is now 26.72mb is that right?
Thankyou very much oltp for your help.It's much appreciated.
I think this site is long overdue a donation from me.
Cheers m8

Thankyou!Its worked!!
I went from scratch and downloaded all the files again.This time i didnt put my own header in the file because i thought thats where i'm going wrong.My devicedata.txt file looked like gibberish to me and it wouldnt copy and paste in to hex editor.So i just left it.I changed the 2 values in the code, converted it and flashed it.Will not having my header cause problems?My storage is now 26.72mb is that right?
Thankyou very much oltp for your help.It's much appreciated.
I think this site is long overdue a donation from me.
Cheers m8

The header contains info about romtype & provider name, probably some things more I'm
not sure about. The reason for changing it is to avoid errors like the country id error. With the use of maupgradeut_noid it's less important.
One thing I'm questioning is the reason why some of us have probs with connecting to the, I believe, special O2 services. Some claim there not able to connect anymore... Can some other setting as well. I'm on T-Mobile & everything works fine.
Basically if the upgrade was succesfull, you have an enlarged storage & the rest of your device will be working as before.
Cheers, M

how much space would i have in my main memory now? i have a 64+64 system (O2 Xda Mini) now branded to T-Mobile 1.33 and now applied the new patch (BIG STORAGE) using the Wiki Information guides. However any idea how much FREE space on first reboot i should have.

did the first reboot...(soft reboot) after flash...its been 3 mins and just the T-Mobile Screen..how lng should i wait before i "think" its a bad flash?

nevermind got it
Total Main Memory - (FREE MEMORY) - 43.99MB Storage / 25.54 MB Programs! woo hoo this is HOT

shivam said:
did the first reboot...(soft reboot) after flash...its been 3 mins and just the T-Mobile Screen..how lng should i wait before i "think" its a bad flash?
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First boot takes much more time than next boots.
Have fun, M

all,
look over here.
cheers!

Sorry to say, but it's old news. We got a thread about it for three months now I guess with that method. Problem is you always need to update first & then dump your rom again. & somehow not all dumps are accurate. The brick change with a SD is larger than with a shipped-rom.
M

Issues loading WM6 rom

I've tried installing the file using the bootloader method countless times now and every time I get a coloured screen with "Serial" at the bottom and some text up the top.
I've tried the card as it was when I got it, Tried it formatted FAT32 with windows, tried it formatted with Resco on the device, etc. It's definitely FAT32.
When I open any of the 3 .exe files from Palm in winzip or winrar there are two .nbh files (CHEEIMG.nbh and CHEEIMG_FW.nbh) one is ~263kb and one is ~85MB.
From everything I have read so far I ignore the correctly named small one (CHEEIMG.nbh) and copy the big one (CHEEIMG_FW.nbh) to the SD card - once thats done I rename it to CHEEIMG.nbh and I should be good to go - start the bootloader and it should work but it's just not happening.
Am I missing something? I just can't get it to work. I've tried the 3, vodafone and generic (ROW) files.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
EDIT:
I'm currently running TREO750-1.15-ROW
Firmware: 1.27.3b.00
Cheers

As far as I understand all this you have to run Hard-SPL first, otherwise your device won't load "foreign" roms.

hmm ok I'll try that but since it's a ROW to ROW update I thought it's not a foreign ROM?

-MM- said:
As far as I understand all this you have to run Hard-SPL first, otherwise your device won't load "foreign" roms.
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I think you can flash all official and leaked without Hard-SPL... It's needed for cooked roms.

surely I shouldn't need it for the bootloader method?
Anyone got any ideas that may help me upgrade?

ROM flash from SD/MMC: Without needing 2nd device

Guy's,
Finally you can flash any rom to your device without help from the 2nd device. I believe it's a great news for them who is suffering from the broken USB connecor.
It's tested on my G3 device with my latest ROM's and other should work without problem.
Procedure:
1. Download the tool and unrar somewhere in your pc.
2. Decode the rom image (nk.nbf) using HTC64 tool and put it (nk.nba) under the "SD_Flash" directory.
3. Run the "SDFlash_G3.cmd" and follow instruction on the screen.
Please note, it's limited to G3 device only and I may add support for G4 device in future.
SD-ROM image tool:
http://vidmes.com/Uni/ROMs/Tomal/Tools/Ranju_SD_Flash.rar
!! IMPORTANT: Do it at your own risk. I'll not take any responsibility if you damage your device. !!
Cheers

Great stuff.
I especially look forward to a G4 release.
My USB commector broke off the circuit board recently and was floating about inside the device for a while before I opened up the device and glued it back in position onto the circuitboard. It now works (the 5 little pins are connected) so I can charge the battery through it, but I don't really trust it to flash a firmware through.
Thankfully I'm already on the ROM I usually go back to (latest T-Mobile WM5) after playing around with WM6 and WM6.1.
Nice to see developments being made for those of us with handicapped uni's!!!

Thanks a ton, Ranju !
Have already downloaded and unpacked it. I'll certainly give it a try as soon as you release your v7.7 ROM.
Cheers!
Carlos

Dear Ranju,
You keep on surprising us!
Thanks friend,
Mohamed

Ranju, as usual, you are the man!
I experienced the "direct flash" on a Mio A701 and it's really a great feature. Now I can't ask you anything more... ehm...
..
... I was kidding I'd like only the new build of your rom eheh
thanks!!!

Thank you ranju for this great tool, so I can flash WM6.1 on my MDA Pro with broken miniUSB!

casouzaj said:
Thanks a ton, Ranju !
Have already downloaded and unpacked it. I'll certainly give it a try as soon as you release your v7.7 ROM.
Cheers!
Carlos
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ha ha ha, nice catch!
Also waiting for a new release... and G4 tool
Cheers

Lord of the binary digits
Hi Ranju!
Thank you very much for sharing your great work.
Cheers

I tried to flash using bluetooth (yeah, I was stupid) and since then it's hanging in bootloader mode.
The mini-USB connector broke before (that's why I was using BT) and now I finally thought I had a solution to get it working again.
However, when I follow your steps and reset (backlight + power + reset) it doesn't even seem to look at the SD-card; it just shows serial + v1.00 again.
Any ideas?
In SDimage it get's to only 3,21%, but's that's normal on a 2 gig card I presume?

martinbl said:
@ 13,05% I get an error in SD Imaging tool and it stops there...
Any idea why?
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what is the size of sd, 512mb?

ranju said:
what is the size of sd, 152mb?
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I just edited my post .
I used another card and that got only to 3,21% or something (2gig card) so I presumed that's normal because of the image size?
To be complete:
I tried to flash using bluetooth (yeah, I was stupid) and since then it's hanging in bootloader mode.
The mini-USB connector broke before (that's why I was using BT) and now I finally thought I had a solution to get it working again.
However, when I follow your steps and reset (backlight + power + reset) it doesn't even seem to look at the SD-card; it just shows serial + v1.00 again.

martinbl said:
I just edited my post .
I used another card and that got only to 3,21% or something (2gig card) so I presumed that's normal because of the image size?
To be complete:
I tried to flash using bluetooth (yeah, I was stupid) and since then it's hanging in bootloader mode.
The mini-USB connector broke before (that's why I was using BT) and now I finally thought I had a solution to get it working again.
However, when I follow your steps and reset (backlight + power + reset) it doesn't even seem to look at the SD-card; it just shows serial + v1.00 again.
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Yes, it's normal.
Did you inserted the card to device before entering to bootloader?
Read and follow all the instructions carefully in the .cmd file.
For more info, read Htc Service manual of Universal.

Thanks Ranju!!!
I am waiting for G4 device

ranju said:
Yes, it's normal.
Did you inserted the card to device before entering to bootloader?
Read and follow all the instructions carefully in the .cmd file.
For more info, read Htc Service manual of Universal.
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I shall tell about all the steps I took:
1. Download the tool and unrar somewhere in your pc.
- Easy.
2. Decode the rom image (nk.nbf) using HTC64 tool and put it (nk.nba) under the "SD_Flash" directory.
- I took your(?) "Ranju_v76_WM61_19209_19209_1_0_2", unrarred it and decoded it to nk.nba.
3. Run the "SDFlash_G3.cmd" and follow instruction on the screen.
g3.bin and nk_sd_g3.bin are created.
After that, I put in my Dane-Elec 2 gig SD-card and format it to FAT32.
SDimage is opened and I select the FAT32 F: drive.
After that I push the "Import SD Image" button.
Fill in "i agree", click "ok" and "yes" (with "hex" unchecked).
There I choose bin files and select "nk_sd_g3."
I then click "Ignore", "yes" and "ignore" and it's starts writing.
At 3,21% I get the dump incomplete notification and click ok.
I then put the card in my Universal, press the light and power button and the reset pin.
For a second or so the v1.00 disapears and it comes back without doing/checking/reading anything.
I'm quit sure the SD-card should work because before I flashed using BT, it worked and I tested the same procedure with another card.
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong or why the Universal doesn't even seem to look for the SD-card?

martinbl said:
I shall tell about all the steps I took:
1. Download the tool and unrar somewhere in your pc.
- Easy.
2. Decode the rom image (nk.nbf) using HTC64 tool and put it (nk.nba) under the "SD_Flash" directory.
- I took your(?) "Ranju_v76_WM61_19209_19209_1_0_2", unrarred it and decoded it to nk.nba.
3. Run the "SDFlash_G3.cmd" and follow instruction on the screen.
g3.bin and nk_sd_g3.bin are created.
After that, I put in my Dane-Elec 2 gig SD-card and format it to FAT32.
SDimage is opened and I select the FAT32 F: drive.
After that I push the "Import SD Image" button.
Fill in "i agree", click "ok" and "yes" (with "hex" unchecked).
There I choose bin files and select "nk_sd_g3."
I then click "Ignore", "yes" and "ignore" and it's starts writing.
At 3,21% I get the dump incomplete notification and click ok.
I then put the card in my Universal, press the light and power button and the reset pin.
For a second or so the v1.00 disapears and it comes back without doing/checking/reading anything.
I'm quit sure the SD-card should work because before I flashed using BT, it worked and I tested the same procedure with another card.
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong or why the Universal doesn't even seem to look for the SD-card?
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The same problem, I folowed all of the instructions as it is, but only serial 1.01 on the screen and no look for the image, i have tried with 2 SD cards, one 256 MB and the other is 512 MB, but there was no difference....
PLZ help

hbahaie said:
The same problem, I folowed all of the instructions as it is, but only serial 1.01 on the screen and no look for the image, i have tried with 2 SD cards, one 256 MB and the other is 512 MB, but there was no difference....
PLZ help
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Yup, same problem here! I tried with a 512MB Toshiba SD card, previously formatted both to FAT(16) and FAT32. SDImage.exe runs up to 12.91% (FAT) or 12.93% (FAT32), with such card capacity. Same results: my Exec just sits there in booloader mode forever...
Cheers!
Carlos

all the steps are correct .
I'm sure root cause is under the header (g3.bin). it's a mmc header and I suppose there is a difference between sd & mmc header. I'll verify once I can arrange a sd card. alternatively someone can try it using a mmc card so that I can reach to a conclusion.

Hi ranju,
Uploading my MMC header for comparison purposes.

I'm also looking for SD header, g3/g4 both the devices for analysis.

So does this work with a G4? or has it not been tested?

A Problem after installing a ROM - RESCUE Options

A couple day ago I've installed a new ROM (Touch FLO Manila 2D) on my Herald using "FLASH CENTER". It has worked for some time, but after one rebooting the system didn't start any more - after turning on it appears a green screen for a pair seconds, then my Herald goes automatically down. And it repeats again and again... And it is not possible to restore the system though ActiveSync, because the Herald doesn't start at all.
I have looked through in this forum for possible rescue options. one of them seemed to be FLASHING FROM SD CARD. But this had no effect - a tricolor has appeared, but it happened nothing more. Probably there is possible to install a ROM this way on working WINDOWS MOBILE' s and not at broken.
I thought - may be it is possible to install a Windows Mobile on SD CARD (something like portable version) and so boot a system from SD Card ???
I hope you can help me.
Thanks.

radjapost said:
A couple day ago I've installed a new ROM (Touch FLO Manila 2D) on my Herald using "FLASH CENTER". It has worked for some time, but after one rebooting the system didn't start any more - after turning on it appears a green screen for a pair seconds, then my Herald goes automatically down. And it repeats again and again... And it is not possible to restore the system though ActiveSync, because the Herald doesn't start at all.
I have looked through in this forum for possible rescue options. one of them seemed to be FLASHING FROM SD CARD. But this had no effect - a tricolor has appeared, but it happened nothing more. Probably there is possible to install a ROM this way on working WINDOWS MOBILE' s and not at broken.
I thought - may be it is possible to install a Windows Mobile on SD CARD (something like portable version) and so boot a system from SD Card ???
I hope you can help me.
Thanks.
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This is the wrong forum for this. I have written a few guides on how "unbrick" the Herald.
You can flash just fine from the tricolor screen. (That's where the phone takes you automatically when you flash "from" windows mobile.) So no worries, you aren't out of luck. Worse case scenario, you search for the GoldCard method if nothing else works.

Hello!
Thank you for your help.
You say, I am on right way with my "tricolor screen". But why doesn't happen anything? May be:
- should I just take another SD Card? My is 1 GB - is it OK, too big, too small?
- did I something wrong with "flashing" methods? I did it 2 ways:
- just with any ROM-File in NBH-Format, which was renamed to HERAIMG.NBH and placed alone to the formated SD Card
- in addition to HERAIMG.NBH also other files (like "EnterBootloader.exe"), which are often inclusive in ROM- ZIPs.
- I should be more patient and wait more than 1 hour with a hope that anything will change?
Could you give me the links for "unbricking" the Herald?
Thanks a lot.

You misunderstood me. You don't flash with the SD card through the tricolor screen. You flash through the regular flash center. If you're not hardSPL you have to flash the stock ROM.
As far as the flashing through SD goes, it should give you a countdown before the tricolor screen appears. If it doesn't, or if it's too fast to read, then your SD card is too slow.

As it loads this tricolor screen I see the following data:
IPL 1.08.0001
SPL 1.08.0001
Perhaps it means, that I indeed need a GOLDCARD method.
You don't flash with the SD card through the tricolor screen. You flash through the regular flash center.
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But the FLASH CENTER works only on WINDOWS. So I can't use the regular flash center, because my Herald doesn't start up and ActiveSync doesn't see him.
If you're not hardSPL you have to flash the stock ROM.
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Where do I get the original ROM, may be even WM5? In your FTP- server I have found some "ship.exe"- Files, but I can't extract ".nbh" files from them.
it should give you a countdown before the tricolor screen appears. If it doesn't, or if it's too fast to read, then your SD card is too slow.
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May be that is the point!!! My SD is too slow. Will be in this case "GoldCard" an ideal solution for me?
Thanks.

radjapost said:
As it loads this tricolor screen I see the following data:
IPL 1.08.0001
SPL 1.08.0001
Perhaps it means, that I indeed need a GOLDCARD method.
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This means that you attempted to flash a HardSPL or another SPL when your SPL did not meet the state requirements. You NEED to create a Goldcard.
radjapost said:
But the FLASH CENTER works only on WINDOWS. So I can't use the regular flash center, because my Herald doesn't start up and ActiveSync doesn't see him.
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No, the flash center doesn't only work in Windows. It works on the bootloader mode. ActiveSync's icon turning green doesn't mean that activesync saw the phone, it means that it can synchronize your information with the computer.
radjapost said:
Where do I get the original ROM, may be even WM5? In your FTP- server I have found some "ship.exe"- Files, but I can't extract ".nbh" files from them.
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If you broke your SPL like I mentioned above, you will have to use the Goldcard first then you will be able to flash any stock Herald/Tmobile Wing ROM.
radjapost said:
May be that is the point!!! My SD is too slow. Will be in this case "GoldCard" an ideal solution for me?
Thanks.
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I don't know if it will be too slow for that, too. But if you broke your SPL, the goldcard is the ONLY way to fix it.

The problem is - for GOLD Card I need a working WINDOWS Mobile Handy... and I don't have such one at the moment.
Is it possible to become a standard GOLD Card, which would be suitable for most of Heralds?
Thanks

radjapost said:
The problem is - for GOLD Card I need a working WINDOWS Mobile Handy... and I don't have such one at the moment.
Is it possible to become a standard GOLD Card, which would be suitable for most of Heralds?
Thanks
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You don't need a windows mobile phone. You can also create one using linux.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485364
Obviously, make it for the Herald not the Dream.

Hi.
You don't need a windows mobile phone. You can also create one using Linux.
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I've installed Linux on my computer, but i can't find a correct command to read a CID of my SD Card. My SD is located in Linux under "/media/disk-1" and I try to write something like "cat /media/disk-1:*/cid", but the Linux doesn't recognize CID command at all.
Actually, I hope, that after getting CID it will not be difficult to obtain a goldcard.img through QMAT. Am I right?
Thanks.

Impossible to root myTouch3G (Fender Edition)

I seem to be having tons of problems rooting my device.
It was released 1/20/10, I think it has stuff that makes me not be able to do so.
With this information can someone direct me to an appropriate SPL, I already tried "ROM v2.53.707.2 (Engineerings SPL v1.33.2010) - MD5 : F9674D19BE5F949D0D9DC99714D210E3" It said "invalid device" "update fail"
SAPPHIRE PVT 32a SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-2.22.23.02
OCT 21 2009, 22:33:27
Help im a newb.

thebluecoat said:
I seem to be having tons of problems rooting my device.
It was released 1/20/10, I think it has stuff that makes me not be able to do so.
With this information can someone direct me to an appropriate SPL, I already tried "ROM v2.53.707.2 (Engineerings SPL v1.33.2010) - MD5 : F9674D19BE5F949D0D9DC99714D210E3" It said "invalid device" "update fail"
SAPPHIRE PVT 32a SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-2.22.23.02
OCT 21 2009, 22:33:27
Help im a newb.
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u need to get Amon Recovery running on the phone before u can update to the 1.33.2010 ENG SPL. Theres afew diff ways of doing this.
(1)I did it by installing the android devvelopment kit (note u need to install java then update the kit), after setting it up then install windows usb drivers for Androidso that your computer detects the phone as an adb device (not a storage device) then using Dos CMD prompt type "fastboot boot recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.5.2H.img" while in fastboot mode (which u need to download). your phone will not have the amon recovery installed on the phone at this time but it will boot from your PC through to your phone. Kinda neat. use that recovery to flash the 2010 SPL. Once 2010 spl is flashed u r good as gold to flash any new custom recovery and or rom.
(2) If u don't understand all of this try relentless rooter which can be downloaded from XDA here
(3) youtube guide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8BZYEBsSws
Try #3 to some point although u have to change few files because he has a 32B board and u have a 32A.
First decide on a method then ask afew more questions. Help will be just around the corner here

relentless rooter
When i first started using this program it gave me a lot of DOS file not found errors clicking on the buttons so then I took the entire tools folder and lumped it into the relentless rooter program which was calling for like c:/rooter and c:/rooter/root respectively.
I have usb drivers button fine, usb device shows device attached, root files pushes files over to my SDCARD, fastboot seems to be my problem i click it and it says "waiting for device" and just sits.. ugh.. help?

COuld you try and get a dump off the phone?

I was just on my way to the tmobile shop to get one of these and came here to see if people had problems. They are updating it to 2.1 in about may.... but Id like to know if its rootable before I go spend $200 for a pretty phone

Having the same problem here. Seems as though it says Invaild ID when trying to downgrade. ANy help witht his would b great. SO much new reading from the g1 to this.. I dont understand half of it.

crypysmoker said:
Having the same problem here. Seems as though it says Invaild ID when trying to downgrade. ANy help witht his would b great. SO much new reading from the g1 to this.. I dont understand half of it.
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We should stick together on this one since we are both having the same issue man! I also have the same problem! When I tried other SPL's to downgrade after no luck with one with a higher number than the one installed I get errors like "invalid id" etc...
I really feel as though all of these SPL's won't apply to us since we have 32A boards on "old radios" as I have read so far.
I am not even able to do the "one-click" root because I follow videos/tutorials to a T and mine always says "backup failed" and the top is always greyed out without me able to click it. Even if i touch to the right of the bottom button and get the top button to light up it still says backup failed or flash failed. It's not happening. I wish we had some attention on this.
I rooted the G1 EASILY i'm quite capable of doing this but im getting errors everywhere like a shot up R2D2

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=579328
Followed those instructions to a T and got "invalid model ID!" after trying to apply sappimg.nbh..

I had issues using the one touch root on my Rogers htc magic that i got about a month ago. It kept saying backup failed so i tried the older version of the one touch root software. It again said backup failed so i kinda poked around at my phone and and rebooted it then tried it again and it managed to backup everything. So i would keep poking with the one touch root and try one of the older versions.

You guys need to understand that this device is a 32A Magic.
The radio version can be 3.22 or 2.22, but it's still 32A.
You will need to goldcard this phone if you expect any results. If you are 100% sure that the goldcard method has failed, then you have to wait until the phone is rooted by other means.
(I have a 32A Magic that I have installed the Fender Edition 2.22 radio onto. I was able to flash the Fender Edition ROM with no issues. That leads me to believe that the Fender Edition MyTouch is the very first 32A Magic shipped with a 1.6 Donut OS)
I do not own a Fender MyTouch, so I am by no means an expert, but I want to help steer your discussions towards a proper solution for rooting the phone. (If anyone wants to send me a Fender MyTouch, go ahead )

cursordroid said:
You guys need to understand that this device is a 32A Magic.
The radio version can be 3.22 or 2.22, but it's still 32A.
You will need to goldcard this phone if you expect any results. If you are 100% sure that the goldcard method has failed, then you have to wait until the phone is rooted by other means.
(I have a 32A Magic that I have installed the Fender Edition 2.22 radio onto. I was able to flash the Fender Edition ROM with no issues. That leads me to believe that the Fender Edition MyTouch is the very first 32A Magic shipped with a 1.6 Donut OS)
I do not own a Fender MyTouch, so I am by no means an expert, but I want to help steer your discussions towards a proper solution for rooting the phone. (If anyone wants to send me a Fender MyTouch, go ahead )
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I tried creating a goldcard, I have the 16gb sandisk, 4gb sandisk, and a 2gb kingston.
I tried all of the cards following these methods, but when I insert it into the phone it says "damaged sd card" I have to format and try again or what?
I used the kingston solely because a person had luck with it. I got my goldcard.img made 2 zeros in the CID, did offsets correctly pasted and saved. what am I doing wrong?
What I have been doing is using the mytouch, mounting the sd card, and doing it like that since I do not have an SDcard reader on my desktop computer, but i dont think that would mess anything up. get back to me, I want to try goldcard since you had luck with it and the fedner, please!

thebluecoat said:
I tried creating a goldcard, I have the 16gb sandisk, 4gb sandisk, and a 2gb kingston.
I tried all of the cards following these methods, but when I insert it into the phone it says "damaged sd card" I have to format and try again or what?
I used the kingston solely because a person had luck with it. I got my goldcard.img made 2 zeros in the CID, did offsets correctly pasted and saved. what am I doing wrong?
What I have been doing is using the mytouch, mounting the sd card, and doing it like that since I do not have an SDcard reader on my desktop computer, but i dont think that would mess anything up. get back to me, I want to try goldcard since you had luck with it and the fedner, please!
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Nope.. your doing it correctly. I have had the same results. tried 2 8gb, a 4gb, a 2gb and the 16gb it came with.. a no go on any of them for a gold card. guess Ill just have to live with it till somethign else comes along and figures it out.

thebluecoat said:
I tried creating a goldcard, I have the 16gb sandisk, 4gb sandisk, and a 2gb kingston.
I tried all of the cards following these methods, but when I insert it into the phone it says "damaged sd card" I have to format and try again or what?
I used the kingston solely because a person had luck with it. I got my goldcard.img made 2 zeros in the CID, did offsets correctly pasted and saved. what am I doing wrong?
What I have been doing is using the mytouch, mounting the sd card, and doing it like that since I do not have an SDcard reader on my desktop computer, but i dont think that would mess anything up. get back to me, I want to try goldcard since you had luck with it and the fedner, please!
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experience from the forum shows that most people go wrong on this step:
16) Install and launch HxD Hex Editor program
17) Go to Extra tab > Open Disk. Under Physical disk, select Removable Disk (Must be your SD card), uncheck “Open as Readonly), click OK.
people seems to be selecting "Logical Disk" (i think thats the other option, please corect me if im wrong) instead of "Physical Disk", there for getting the "damaged sd card" error

donjo9 said:
experience from the forum shows that most people go wrong on this step:
16) Install and launch HxD Hex Editor program
17) Go to Extra tab > Open Disk. Under Physical disk, select Removable Disk (Must be your SD card), uncheck “Open as Readonly), click OK.
people seems to be selecting "Logical Disk" (i think thats the other option, please corect me if im wrong) instead of "Physical Disk", there for getting the "damaged sd card" error
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Nope.. There is open.. Open Disk and open disk image. I was up till 3am trying each sd card over and over with same results. But now knowing that the SPL is hiher then the downgragables I belive we are just going to have to wait till these are out more. Unfourtunatly, it being a limited edition... we may be screwed lol. Ive got another pc and 2 last sd cards to try today. lol Ive even got a 32mb one... and if that one is the only one that takes the hex edit ill be so mad lol cause it wont fit the nbh file.
EDIT- IM SUCH A DUMBASS lol.. I see what you meant by logical and physical now. I had been clicking logical disk allllll night and always having to reformat the card. Then.. since it was so late when I was doing this, Ikept using the same goldcard.img for all the sd cards lol. So I tried again today, made the gol card correctly and it still was found by the PC... But it stlll gives device error as before. Ill go through getting the cid # from the other cards later when im bored.
My main problems with now not wanting to root this phone...
1. The music player will be gone.. it is nice.
2. 2.0/2.1 is supposed to be offcialy released for it within the next few weeks according to 2 of the Tmobile guys I alked to, one being the regional manager.
If anyone figures it out im all for trying to again.... But for now Ill learn to live with my vanilla dounut. Mmmmm Vanilla Doughnuts
lol
But I cant ever give up on anythign like this so I give it about 5min before im bored enough to start again.

crypysmoker said:
Nope.. There is open.. Open Disk and open disk image. I was up till 3am trying each sd card over and over with same results. But now knowing that the SPL is hiher then the downgragables I belive we are just going to have to wait till these are out more. Unfourtunatly, it being a limited edition... we may be screwed lol. Ive got another pc and 2 last sd cards to try today. lol Ive even got a 32mb one... and if that one is the only one that takes the hex edit ill be so mad lol cause it wont fit the nbh file.
EDIT- IM SUCH A DUMBASS lol.. I see what you meant by logical and physical now. I had been clicking logical disk allllll night and always having to reformat the card. Then.. since it was so late when I was doing this, Ikept using the same goldcard.img for all the sd cards lol. So I tried again today, made the gol card correctly and it still was found by the PC... But it stlll gives device error as before. Ill go through getting the cid # from the other cards later when im bored.
My main problems with now not wanting to root this phone...
1. The music player will be gone.. it is nice.
2. 2.0/2.1 is supposed to be offcialy released for it within the next few weeks according to 2 of the Tmobile guys I alked to, one being the regional manager.
If anyone figures it out im all for trying to again.... But for now Ill learn to live with my vanilla dounut. Mmmmm Vanilla Doughnuts
lol
But I cant ever give up on anythign like this so I give it about 5min before im bored enough to start again.
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Dude im dying every day staying up until 3am as well trying to pwn this phone. I go to bed sleep, wake up, and sign onto xda to see wtf is what. It's like another dude somewhere out there is having the SAME issues.
I work for t-mo as I said, I have not heard about any new OS plans for fender edition mytouch / mytouch 3g.
Im 100% positive that im creating goldcard correctly, I have 3 unique CID's that I reverse, replace with two zeros, use the correct image, open and uncheck read only on the removable disk, open goldcard, copy offset 00-0017 (however many zeros it said, copy paste save, close) plug back in, "you need to format this card" -windows "damaged sd card" -mytouch.

thebluecoat said:
Dude im dying every day staying up until 3am as well trying to pwn this phone. I go to bed sleep, wake up, and sign onto xda to see wtf is what. It's like another dude somewhere out there is having the SAME issues.
I work for t-mo as I said, I have not heard about any new OS plans for fender edition mytouch / mytouch 3g.
Im 100% positive that im creating goldcard correctly, I have 3 unique CID's that I reverse, replace with two zeros, use the correct image, open and uncheck read only on the removable disk, open goldcard, copy offset 00-0017 (however many zeros it said, copy paste save, close) plug back in, "you need to format this card" -windows "damaged sd card" -mytouch.
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The press release from tmobile states that 2.1 will be coming to all devices that will support it. Meaning without root size wise, which Im thinking may toss the g1 out for 2.1, but maybe not 2.0. But I was specifly told also that 2.1 will be released for this mytouch, and it is also, obviously, the first to be released with 1.6 donut on it.
Also.. When you get the format disk error.. are you looking down the list on the **** drive to the bottom where it says Physical/removable? I found that the only time it gives me the format error is when I open it in hex where it says Logical rather then physical. If you go to the bottom and hit the physical one, and paste and save I can still open the sd card on the pc and phone.... BUT, it still will not downgrade.
EDIT- Since im still new to this.... Ive noticed that most rooting takes downgrading first. Now, does this mean that the ohones NAND's are set up like say the PSP where the IPL files can be changed to only allow certain firmware? Can it be that having the first phone with a base rom of 1.6 make it to where we cant go down past 1.6? Im still teetering on weather I should put it back in the box and use my G1 till the offcial 2.0/2.1 comes out or keep trying. But I woul dhate damaging it trying to get it to do something it cant.
Thanks to anyone else who gets one to test, I I had the money I would buy a dev one just for this purpose.

crypysmoker said:
But I was specifly told also that 2.1 will be released for this mytouch, and it is also, obviously, the first to be released with 1.6 donut on it.
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If you are referring to the Fender edition as "the first to be released with 1.6 donut on it" then you are incorrect.
I have a non fender edition that I purchased 2 weeks ago with donut 1.6, DCR92 build.
Apparently there are some rooting issues with DCR92/1.6donut/1.33.0007spl....from what I understand.

dsimages said:
If you are referring to the Fender edition as "the first to be released with 1.6 donut on it" then you are incorrect.
I have a non fender edition that I purchased 2 weeks ago with donut 1.6, DCR92 build.
Apparently there are some rooting issues with DCR92/1.6donut/1.33.0007spl....from what I understand.
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my SPL ends with 0013, not sure how much of a diffrence that makes. But I honestly thought i read in these forums that this was the first made with 1.6 and not updated to. but maybe I read wrong. All I know is that no trick works as of yet. Ill start again tonight when the kids go to sleep, but for it being a 32a board, I dont really see to many roms I wana try lol

So when you make the gold card does your phone read it or it stops before it loads the file from it? it sounds like the gold card is not created corectly...
The android version is irelevant so is the radio. to load anything, you need engeneering SPL. That will allow you to load any image,(radio,boot,recovery,system...) fastboot with full functionality.

zambezy said:
So when you make the gold card does your phone read it or it stops before it loads the file from it? it sounds like the gold card is not created corectly...
The android version is irelevant so is the radio. to load anything, you need engeneering SPL. That will allow you to load any image,(radio,boot,recovery,system...) fastboot with full functionality.
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it goes through most of the process of reading the sappimg file and once the prgress bar reaches the end and it goes through checking and all that it stops with the error. Also trying to get into fastboot it give the error that a perfected spl gives so done on both accounts. Ive now made what I think is a working goldcard but dont know if I want to proceed if im going to destroy it if I can get anything back on it.
also... I think im done with it for now till a smarted person gets this done. I really believe that this 1.6 version is a bit different then others, and also the spl seems to be a pain in the arse. I really cant afford a bricked phone, much less one I waited a very long time to get. I tried lol, but in the end my ADD defeated me.