Can someone suggest a ROM Kitchen??? - General Questions and Answers

i've been using PPC Kitchen to build a few ROMs. now that i've got the hang of it and know what i NEED to include and what i WANT to include i'd like to build a very light, fast ROM for my phone. however, PPC Kitchen has started giving me various error messages when cooking. can anyone suggest another user friendly kitchen that i could download? i'd still very much consider myself a beginner, so i'm looking for something that is fairly easy to use. any suggestions???

still looking for a good kitchen to start learning cooking on. any suggestions for a beginner friendly kitchen? anyone???

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Cooking Help

Since all of you have made it so easy to understand the basics, I'm trying to cook!
I'm using the latest official Tilt ROM posted here, but I'd like to import the latest CE OS version from a different ROM. I don't even know if this is possible, but I figure someone would know how if it is.
If I extract the base ROM and the ROM with the target CE OS, how would I go about importing this OS into the Base ROM?
Someone at least tell me shut up Newb and read or point me in the direction I need to go. I've looked and the only thing I can find is some references to XIP being difficult to port.
Is this where the main operating system of the device is stored?
Anyone willing to help?
BulldogXTRM said:
Anyone willing to help?
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I think you just asked the single hardest question about cooking. The answer is there's no "simple" easy way to do it. Most of the files you're looking for will reside in the SYS\OS* folders. The really good news is that as long as you keep the OEM\OEMDrivers folder alone you can port pretty much anything you want from a similar device (Hermes, Polaris, Wizard, etc) and it should work on the Kaiser.
But it is *truly* a VERY slow process to port enough to make things work without porting so much you break it again. And when you have a ROM that won't even boot its a ROYAL PAIN to track down which of dozens of changes you might have made between compiles/flashes is causing the problem. In my experience it's usually something really simple like extra characters in initflashfiles.dat (from editing in Notepad), or some registry setting gone awry.
Anyway, good luck to you!

Developing Ideas for a Noob

Hello,
I am very new at developing anything what so ever. I want to take on the task of developing a small app for my HTC/xv6900.
I make visits to peoples homes on a regular basis. I would like to have a program that I can add these people in. It will work pretty similar to the contacts system already on the windows Mobile. But there are a few things that it lacks that I need. So i decided to try to develop my own.
I found a very cheap copy of the .net 2005 and download the Windows Mobile Professional from Microsoft.
But of course I am unsure of what I am doing. I figure I could try to build the GUI first and then get some help with the coding. But now I am stuck on the GUI.
The main reason for this post is to get help and get some direction to some good tutorials that would help in building a small app for a WM6 Professional device.

Cleaning up a ROM...Yes I'm a newbie

Hello everyone, this is my first thread here and I really hate to ask this but I have been reading and searching for the past 4 days and have learned a lot except for this. When researching the wiki and searching xda-dev w/ google I couldn't find any info or guides involving the cleaning up of or removing apps/programs from a dumped and extracted ROM. I want to learn how to take a ROM and remove all programs I don't want and re-cook with what I need. Could anyone point me in the right direction so that I can learn this process?
Any help will be greatly appreciated, and please be easy on me if I missed anything. Once again thanks.
try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372469
Thanks but I have already watched all of those vids and have them saved on my computer for future reference. I don't see anything there that will help me with what I need. For example, say I have a HTC ROM that came installed on my device when I bought it and I want to remove bubble breaker and solitare from the ROM as I don't want them. Is there something out there that teaches how to do this? I know how to dump the ROM and extract it, just do not know what parts of the app I need to remove (dll's, exe's, reg entries, etc) or where. I honestly could be missing something but I am for sure confused. Also I used to live just south of Pittsburgh in Washington county, now in AZ....saw you were in western PA.
ok bud not to sound like mean ass...
the screen casts taught you everything, I myself use IMGFS tools to dump and recook roms but there are lots of prebuilt kitchens such as kaiser Kitchen. cooking doesnt get any easier than that. if your going to need more help and just dont get whats in the wiki try and have someone do a one on one with you over IM since everything you need to know is well documented in the kaiser wiki as well as the Hermes wiki
knowing what files to remove can be made easier by using package tool from bepe. but its more trail and error. also you can use reshack to see what files are linked to what.
austinsnyc said:
ok bud not to sound like mean ass...
the screen casts taught you everything, I myself use IMGFS tools to dump and recook roms but there are lots of prebuilt kitchens such as kaiser Kitchen. cooking doesnt get any easier than that. if your going to need more help and just dont get whats in the wiki try and have someone do a one on one with you over IM since everything you need to know is well documented in the kaiser wiki as well as the Hermes wiki
knowing what files to remove can be made easier by using package tool from bepe. but its more trail and error. also you can use reshack to see what files are linked to what.
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Didn't sound mean at all man. I do use kaiser kitchen and have used imgfs tools by themselves too, neither of those are the problem. Now I have not looked into bepe's tools or reshack which seems to be what I'm looking for more or less. I will try and locate those tools and give them a shot. It's just hard for me to figure out how to remove all parts of an app on a rom. I appreciate the help. Thanks.
yes that is one of the fun parts of rom cooking....
figuring out what goes to what and what you can remove with out breaking something else. its lots of trail and error :/ once you get the hang of it its pretty simple till you start porting roms and such
thanks for the help.
Maybe you can add your discovery to any guides or wikis. Even if it's only an alternate phrasing, it could save other people from a tough learning curve.

Cooking ROM

I'm trying to cook a ROM, and wondering couple of things: (apart from is this the wrong forum!)
- I'm using HyperCore, is this ok or is there better way?
- I can't get cooked ROM to boot. Looks like this is a Vista problem (according to some threads). Has anyone else got problems cooking on Vista? NB. everything else is fine, with no errors or problems.
i wouldn't even think its vista bro im running on XP and im having the same issues and ive used hypercore and EFN's with me changing the XIP and SYS of the efn to try and make it easier and ive used probably between 10-15 diff builds and i haven't gotten one to boot, and it used to be so easy to add stuff to the ppcgeeks kitchen when i would add files and zips to the kitchen and pop out tilt roms like crazy, i just want to be able to do some custom roms for myself and this wonderful community and its a lot harder for this device then others hopefully ppl like luca efn tomal ranju and the other rom makers can shed some light on the subject of making roms
No one's going to help you people like this over here. You need to consult Wiki. Though nothing could I myself find there regarding current issue!

What is the best kaiser kitchen?

I am a complete noob to kitchen and cooking. I have seen quite a few WM 6.5 based kitchens and roms available on this forum. The ones that have caught are eye include
TPC and Joshkoss Collaborative 6.1 and 6.5 Kitchens for Noobs
TPCElite series V9 wm6.5 23009
erviuskitchen
bepe kitchen
osKitchen Kaiser (fe~ROM kitchen)
PPC kitchen (seen elsewhere via google)
I wanted to understand what is the best kitchen to start with? Do they all offer the same functionality? Could I for example start with any of these kitchens and end with a rom like TPC Elite?
Thanks for your help
Neil
There is one basic difference - type of using it.
From commandline (eg adding packages by hand)
With GUI (you click what you want to have there)
If I take it by order:
TPC and Joshkoss Collaborative 6.1 and 6.5 Kitchens for Noobs - commandline only, copying and such is done by hand
TPCElite series V9 wm6.5 23009 - it is ROM, not kitchen!
erviuskitchen - visual, has a hell lot of options
bepe kitchen - I don't know this one
osKitchen Kaiser (fe~ROM kitchen) - Easy to use with GUI
PPC kitchen (seen elsewhere via google) - I don't know this one too
You should try all of them and stick with one you like the most or write your own in the end.
neilverma said:
I am a complete noob to kitchen and cooking. I have seen quite a few WM 6.5 based kitchens and roms available on this forum. The ones that have caught are eye include
TPC and Joshkoss Collaborative 6.1 and 6.5 Kitchens for Noobs
TPCElite series V9 wm6.5 23009
erviuskitchen
bepe kitchen
osKitchen Kaiser (fe~ROM kitchen)
PPC kitchen (seen elsewhere via google)
I wanted to understand what is the best kitchen to start with? Do they all offer the same functionality? Could I for example start with any of these kitchens and end with a rom like TPC Elite?
Thanks for your help
Neil
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bepe's kitchen is the best, all the others suck and the builders should be run off the forum.
Is that what you want to hear ? Think about what you are asking before starting a new thread asking people hold a " Miss XDA-Kitchen " pageant.
If you are too lazy to read all about cooking and what you need to do it and what kitchen includes what. And who's kitchen will best suit your needs, then you are not ready to cook.
You will probably just brick your phone from not doing enough research, and be back here asking for help on how to unbrick your phone.
The wiki has a section on cooking as do all of the kitchens you mentioned.
I will leave you with a hint:
If you want your rom to turn out exactly like TPC's Elite series, guess whose kitchen you should use.
Harsh but to the point, way..way..too many new thread starts lately in the development forum . " Help me " " which is the best " " point me to where to find this " We should just have a general " my time is way more important than yours is/was so I don't what to search, I don't want to read , I don't want to learn, I want you to put it on a plate for me " section. The Mods can cut down the name of the new section if they want to
@ OndraSter
Thanks. I started with downloading ppc kitchen (http://ppckitchen.org/). Although extremely impressive with live updates feature for ingredients, the last kaiser rom in this kitchen is still 6.1.
I am now downloading your kitchen to give it a go. Its impressive all the tweaks you have added to it.
denco7 said:
bepe's kitchen is the best, all the others suck and the builders should be run off the forum.
Is that what you want to hear ? Think about what you are asking before starting a new thread asking people hold a " Miss XDA-Kitchen " pageant.
If you are too lazy to read all about cooking and what you need to do it and what kitchen includes what. And who's kitchen will best suit your needs, then you are not ready to cook.
You will probably just brick your phone from not doing enough research, and be back here asking for help on how to unbrick your phone.
The wiki has a section on cooking as do all of the kitchens you mentioned.
I will leave you with a hint:
If you want your rom to turn out exactly like TPC's Elite series, guess whose kitchen you should use.
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Good job i have no stitches to break
Always guranteed a laugh from denco7
denco7 said:
bepe's kitchen is the best, all the others suck and the builders should be run off the forum.
Is that what you want to hear ? Think about what you are asking before starting a new thread asking people hold a " Miss XDA-Kitchen " pageant.
If you are too lazy to read all about cooking and what you need to do it and what kitchen includes what. And who's kitchen will best suit your needs, then you are not ready to cook.
You will probably just brick your phone from not doing enough research, and be back here asking for help on how to unbrick your phone.
The wiki has a section on cooking as do all of the kitchens you mentioned.
I will leave you with a hint:
If you want your rom to turn out exactly like TPC's Elite series, guess whose kitchen you should use.
Harsh but to the point, way..way..too many new thread starts lately in the development forum . " Help me " " which is the best " " point me to where to find this " We should just have a general " my time is way more important than yours is/was so I don't what to search, I don't want to read , I don't want to learn, I want you to put it on a plate for me " section. The Mods can cut down the name of the new section if they want to
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stylez said:
Good job i have no stitches to break
Always guranteed a laugh from denco7
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ily guys THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BEST KITCHEN, your best bet is find a kitchen for newbs. and know that "whats the best" threads are forbidden(not allowed) on this site best I remember as well. correct me if im wrong guys.
Bepes is the best though. Easiest for everything. XIP porting is cake everything about it is "easy"
Ok so i have stirred up some controversy. Perhaps I should have asked what the easiest kitchen is for first timers rather than the best.
neilverma said:
Ok so i have stirred up some controversy. Perhaps I should have asked what the easiest kitchen is for first timers rather than the best.
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Better question
They all have their +++++ , I started out with Alex's kitchen. bepe's is easy.
As I said , if you like TPC's rom, use TPC'/Josh's kitchen. Shane and Josh are the best when it comes to helping people with a genuine " amor " of rom cooking.
neilverma said:
I am a complete noob to kitchen and cooking. I have seen quite a few WM 6.5 based kitchens and roms available on this forum. The ones that have caught are eye include
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Some questions,
did your device as Hardspl ?
did you've already flashed your device with an oficial ROM ?
did you've already flashed a cooked rom ?
Seems that you want to jump all the steps an go to the cooking process, please read, read, read, understand first the ROm structure and after that how a kitchen works and whats the impact of the diferent parts in the rom
Without that will be very dificul to made one flashable ROM, and a brick might be an easy step
It's all personal preference. I started with JK & TPC, and then hopped to Ervius!
But I had been cooking before I started cooking for Kaiser, so I had some experience.
Ondra's looks real simple, and has GUI in it. So it might be the place where I would start and learn, and then explore more options once you get the jist of it!

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