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How much free RAM left for typical WM6 devices?

I am currently using a iPAQ 112 which is running WM6 Classic, ie without phone function.
However the free RAM is only 28Mb out of 64Mb after start up and average around 20Mb with no programe running.
Is it normal?
If I never remember wrongly, phones like Hermes running WM6 Pro have more free RAM which is around 40Mb, it's kind of weird right, as WM6 Pro have more processes running at background for phone functions.
Hope someone can give me some idea, thanks.

Running ttran's open touch v2.7 biggy I usually float around 23-25mb of ram. Wing specs read I *could* in a perfect world get up to 64 megs.

it's 64mb for everything like on windows things in the os which startup take some
today items
and stuff started in \windows\startup

Which Windows Mobile 6.5 Version left highest amount of ram after start?

If I am honest, i cant look through this many different 6.5 Versions now available.
Can anybody with experience in this regard please tel me which 6.5 Version left most ram after start? ...and maybe which is currently the overall best rom available.
I dont need optical gimmicks, just poor performance and working touchflo in the applications like internet explorer.
Is there any performance gain between 6.1 and 6.5 (touchflo better maybe?, multiple today screens?) ?
Many thanks

well, I´ve been playing for several months with Cracing ´s rom. Installed spb shell 3, voice command and vito sms and theres nearly no more ram left to any reasonable big program....although 6.5 is smooth, we need more ram!
what about other roms??
(the biggest drawback of 6.5 is the lack of tweaking the memory slider between program/storage, That, would have solved my memory issue)
regards!

raptown said:
the biggest drawback of 6.5 is the lack of tweaking the memory slider between program/storage, That, would have solved my memory issue) regards!
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Thanks for reply.
Storage is flash and programm memory is ram, different type of memory - so that will be imposible forever though.
Whats about the touchflo, are there any differences between 6.1 and 6.5?

ups! but i saw that slider in wm5! (maybe I dreamt it!).
I thought all internal flash memory was shared between program and storage.
Sorry for the stupid question; What is the touch flo???
I just installed new rom and everything worked fine!
I use spb shell as my finger o.s. With voice command and vito sms left me all together with 5mb free.
Now that i kill nearly all "3rd parties" progz, i have 13.5mb free.

No doubt
WM 6.5 Professional Clean by Ham3r, 30.4 MB. Follow the link from my signature.

raptown said:
ups! but i saw that slider in wm5! (maybe I dreamt it!).
I thought all internal flash memory was shared between program and storage.
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Maybe you are thinking of PocketPC before Windows Mobile.
I had an HP Jornada 548 running PocketPC (WinCE 3.0) for many years, and it had the slider you speak of. But all of that internal storage was RAM. The division was between RAMdisk and program RAM. Whenever the Jornada ran out of battery it would need a cold reset. All wm5, wm6, etc instead use flash for storage memory, and RAM for program memory, so no slider is possible.
I agree with the post before this, that the Ham3r wm6.5 ROM, although marked pre-pre-pre-alpha, leaves the most free memory, and nobody has reported any fatal flaws with that ROM. If free memory is your top priority, use that ROM.

Benefits of upgrading

Hi
I have just received an xdaII mini and have been browsing these forums looking at the different roms available. I am just wondering, besides obviously being a newer release, what benefits the updated rom - say Cotulla's wwe03 - brings to the magician (in its default 2003se setup). Is it more stable, better features apps?
Cheers

2 words. Persistent Storage. This is the main reason (but not the only reason and there's a lot) why you should abandon WM2003SE and upgrade to Cotulla's ROM. This means that if ever you drain your battery, you would not lose all the data (e.g. contacts, appointments.. etc.) in your Magician.

make your xda mini beautiful
You can enjoy great applications and launchers when you upgraded your ROM. Many applications are running only if your ROM is wm5, wm6, wm6.1 or wm6.5.
Try to use spb mobile shell and see the difference in your xda mini.

Thanks for replies. What about memory issues. The XDAII mini only has 64 mb of ROM and 64 of RAM. Is this enough to run wm6? Do users get out of memory errors and is it stable...will I need to reset the phone regularly?

Well I held my breath and flashed wwe 3.03 to the o2 and it seems very quick and stable. As mentioned, my biggest concern was with memory management. Is anyone using external bluetooth gps devices with this?
Cheers

WM6.1 runs great even if the Magician has only 64MB memory. Basic rule is never to install too much applications in the internal memory which will slow down the unit. If possible try to install them in memory card. The good news is since you installed 3.03 then you now have SDHC capability.
As for your second question it would be better if you read the thread for the version you installed. If you can't find the answer then don't hesitate to ask you questions since there are a lot of members who will be happy to help you.
Have fun with your "new" magician!

Opera Mobile or Opera Mini?

Personally I use Opera Mini - cant stand Mobile - but I am curious to what other people are using and what the balance really is.

I've only used Mini briefly, but I found it to be unbearably sluggish compared wih Mobile. The zoomed-out page was also lacking in detail - text reduced to a horizontal line. I'm using my HD2's built-in Mobile 9.7 at the moment. I may switch to Mobile 10 when it comes out of beta - current version is a little too unstable for me. But I'd miss pinch-to-zoom.
I did have some problems with Mobile 10 on my Touch Pro2 - it used so much memory the whole phone ended up grinding to a halt. But on the HD2 it's very slick.

Really depends on which phone you have, on QVGA devices Mini makes a lot more sense but on VGA and WVGA the mini rendering is unusable.

Question - Opera Mini / Mobile

Hey Guys,
I have ben using Tomal's V12 64mb for ages and am thinking of changing the browers to Opera, Although afert looing on teh opera website i found that there are two browers that can run on Uni:
Opera Mini
Opera Mobile
i would like some help to fiind out which of the is better!

I prefer Opera mobile over mini.
This is the version I have found more stable: Opera Browser 9.70.35627.0
Check my sig opera official thread and you´ll find all you need

Thanks
will try and report back

Yes, Opera Mobile is a bit better because it can handle Flash, and JS with a better way than Mini one. Same as orb3000 said Opera 9.7 is bettter I think because Mobile doesn't load websites for me or when downloading timer is there(ew. on rapidsaher free) it can load it. Mobile 10 missing that timer and Mini has it but it's not working. Btw. Opera Turbo is bit bugged because you must turn it off before saving images or downloading files. And best of all it works fine on 64mb RAM Uni (without upgrade). Good choice is Skyfire too. You can check it at www.skyfire.com and I really recommend it with a new version of 1.5.