Everyone here seems to NOT have figured out the internet calling part of the crossbow. So I thought I would start a thread for that.
This is what I know and have researched so far.
1. There is a HELP section on the crossbow that talks about Internet Calling Providers. But there is NO application that is visible to configure them
2. Looking through the systems files, I found this DLL: voipphonecanvas.dll
3. The above DLL is not documented and maybe is the DLL for the Today Screen or the Tab in the phone settings.
Please add what you have found out or researched about this. Any links to any hint of documentation OR talk would be great.
I have also read the help file for the internet calling, and the feature is CELLULAR CARRIER dependant!
In other words, it's not a standards-based SIP phone. This would be a 'feature' (translated: extra charge item) that your cellular provider would offer.
I am also disappointed about this. Was hoping for more!
Voice over Internet Protocol, also called VoIP, IP Telephony, Internet telephony, Broadband telephony, Broadband Phone and Voice over Broadband is the routing of voice conversations over the Internet or through any other IP-based network.
Companies providing VoIP service are commonly referred to as providers, and protocols which are used to carry voice signals over the IP network are commonly referred to as Voice over IP or VoIP protocols. They may be viewed as commercial realizations of the experimental Network Voice Protocol (1973) invented for the ARPANET providers. Some cost savings are due to utilizing a single network - see attached image[1] - to carry voice and data, especially where users have existing underutilized network capacity that can carry VoIP at no additional cost. VoIP to VoIP phone calls are sometimes free, while VoIP to PSTN may have a cost that's borne by the VoIP user.
There are two types of PSTN to VoIP services: DID (Direct Inward Dialing) and access numbers. DID will connect the caller directly to the VoIP user while access numbers require the caller to input the extension number of the VoIP user. Access numbers are usually charged as a local call to the caller and free to the VoIP user while DID usually has a monthly fee.[2] There are also DIDs that are free to the VoIP user but chargeable to the caller.
Cossbow also contains a file called ipdialplan.xml witch is used by the voipphonecanvas.dll. How to configure it is beyond my knowledge.
I read somewhere voipphonecanvas.dll interacts with radio rom that comes with the crossbow. Since we don't have that rom we won't get it to work.
Pitty, I would really like to get this to work.
Cheers,
Cacti
Ipdialplan.xml
Here is the IPDIALPLAN.XML if any one can that has NOT seen this can make sense of it.
Could not upload the XML file so had to add the .txt entension to it.
I dont understand it but it looks like cammands like a dial up modem
Example: AT & FX.....etc.
The XML file is similar to that used with other VOIP solutions. My guess is that the main thing that needs to be changed is the host name which should be the DNS value for your SIP provider. The application would have to have a username and password (or deviceid and password) to register the device as a SIP peer. Has anyone been able to get the application on the today screen to say anything other than "Not Available"?
ip-rob said:
The XML file is similar to that used with other VOIP solutions. My guess is that the main thing that needs to be changed is the host name which should be the DNS value for your SIP provider. The application would have to have a username and password (or deviceid and password) to register the device as a SIP peer. Has anyone been able to get the application on the today screen to say anything other than "Not Available"?
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Could you post a similar file from another provider if available ?
The IPDIALPLAN.XML file contains a set rules that use regular expression patterns to tell the VoIP client how to actually dial the other party. You can see that there are patterns for 11-digit, 10-digit, 7-digit, 5-digit, and SIP URI rules. These are all the possible SIP address/number formats that you may dial. The only real configuration portion seems to be:
Code:
<dialplan-header>
<host>#use_sipsrv_host_name#</host>
</dialplan-header>
Where I would assume, as others have said, that you replace #use_sipsrv_host_name# with the name or IP of your SIP server.
VoIP
VoIP would be great on our Wizard. I have SunRocket at home as my VoIP, and many others probably also have Vonage. If we can somehow configure the Crossbow ROM to natively support the VoIP services, it looks like the Internet Calling can be automatically turned on when you're in a hotspot connected to Wifi.
I guess the cellular provider will have to figure out whether to allow this. I can foresee that if you are with Cingular, which will be AT&T Wireless, which will AT&T offers CallVantage as their VoIP service. So, potentially your phone can be both a wireless mobile handset as well as a VoIP handset.
It would just be like using our phones for Skype, but Skype is not using the standard SIP protocol, while our Microsoft phones will support the official SIP stack. I bet a lot more vendors will jump on this.
When Wi-Max come out, perhaps we won't even need a Cellular provider, and will have a VoIP provider for our mobile phones. How's that for some competition? Can someone say FREE long distance?
Talking about CallVantage
AT&T CALLVANTAGE WEBSITE: said:
........ When dialing into service remotely, you may incur additional access charges for non-local calls, hotel service charges or cellular mobile charges. Video calling available between AT&T CallVantage Softphone customers only (up to 2 additional callers) and requires video camera (not included). ..........
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hmmmm.. The above is the disclaimer for the CallVantage Softphone at the bottom of the page here.
Yes, that was what I was referring to...dialing rules. The SIP clients typically use these types of rules which you can see in systems ranging from very complex (e.g. Asterisk) to that in the XML file. The XML file doesn't have enough information on how to actually log into the SIP server such as the userid/deviceid and password...just a placeholder for the sip gateway.
hjkl;' why no delete?
Skype
Does anyone know if skype allows VOIP calls without using their software? If they have generic settings, maybe they could be used here.
If someone here has CallVantage, could you try using your seeting in the XML file and see if you can enable the VOIP service on the phone.
Change ipdialplan?
I was going to put my sip server in the dialplan but how can I change the ipdialplan.xml file? It is set to read-only and system file.
Here Are The Sip Values Needed To Make It Work
Here are the SIP settings from ChallengerMobile. Can someone figure out where to put in all this data? The Only One I figured out was to add the HOST name on the top line. But I guess the rest are just rules. Which other file might there be to add all these values?
[FONT=Verdana,Arial]Profile name: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial]Challenger mobile [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial]Service profile: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial]IETF [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial]Public user name*: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial]enter your Challenger SIP number. E.g. [email protected] [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial]Use compression: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial]No [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial]Registration: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial]Always on/When needed [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial]Use Security: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial]No [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial]Proxy server: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial]sip:challengermobile.com [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial]Registrar server address: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial]sip:challengermobile.com [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial]Realm: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial]challengermobile.com [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial]User name*: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial]enter the userpart of your Challenger SIP number. If your SIP number is [email protected], enter 461234[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial]Password*: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial]enter your Challenger mobile password [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial]Allow loose routing: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial]YES [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial]Transport type: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial]UDP [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial]Port: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial]5060 [/FONT]
ip-rob said:
I was going to put my sip server in the dialplan but how can I change the ipdialplan.xml file? It is set to read-only and system file.
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Use Total Commander to change the Read Only property of the file.
modifying the host information has no impact...I still can't get the application to list anything other than "Not Available"
didn't this app was design to communicate with the radio rom that came with wm6
Does anyone know if there's a good VOIP program that allows me to use the front-camera to send video as well as normal voice?
There is the windows mobile 6 pro standered that you can install but I haven't been able to get it to work at the mo don't know if anyone can help.
I installed the WM6voip.cab and sipconfig put in the settings but it doesn't regester with my voip providers but it doe say avalible on the today home section.
can the option call of "skype beta lite" for symbian work without using a GSM mobile as skype beta for windows mobile ?
personally, I download on a N72, but I did not even call the icon, and in the section of the help it says that "skype" is not yet available in your country? I think I should send the link by sms to someone who is in the country where it already exists, and ask him to send it to me via the Internet? so I call the icon, but I do not know if it will work? and if I could use the call without GSM network !
what do you think?
Hello,
I have a Samsung F700 and I have a plan with unlimited sms/mms messaging but no data whatsoever, so I am searching for an instant messenger that functions through sms only. Any help would be appreciated, whether you can tell me where to download it and how to install it or names of programs or if there is a name for these types of messengers
does anyone know about a program called OZ? supposedly it uses sms (but possibly also uses data for some functions?) i read somewhere that att uses a att-branded version of it? would this work? where would I get it?
Thank you!
I have t-mobile if that helps
Hello. I have a htc touch hd with default windows mobile 6.1.
It is my first pda, and I was sure I could use it almost as a PC.
What i am really missing is the possibility to videocall. I am not referring to normal videocalls...i don't need them, and i think they are not cheap.
I mean i was really sure i could make video meetings with mobile applications of skype and windows msn messenger.
I have at the moment on the PDA: skype application, default microsoft messenger application, and fring (for SIP voipstunt calls, skype and msn messenger).
Well, none can do videocalls.
I've surfed the net and everyone is asking WHY skype has not yet given the possibility to use the front camera for a videocall?
No 3rd party application exists. It is nonsense. It is no hardware problem, every pda has a camera, and the cpu power to run it, and the possibility to use a wifi hotspot downloading enough bandwidth to receive or send camera videos (if the wifi offers a good internet connection, but then it's not a limit of the phone).
So why should i NOT be able to use this camera for this purpose?
I am in japan, i have wifi almost everywhere, i don't need actually a 'phone' signal to phone, because i can do everything with internet (voipstunt or skype) and calling everybody in the world. Just this feature of the webcam for videocalls in skype is missing. Is that so heavy to run a video in 320x240 with the front camera?
i really can't get it....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548765&highlight=video
well thanks but they don't allow skype nor msn management...it's still far from what many people need