I am using a WM2003SE device and have an application which, for some strange reason, will only run from the external storage card (if installed to main memory or safestore, it will crash the device within a matter of minutes). It runs well from the card, except for the fact that I receive notification errors after waking up the device from sleep which force me to hit the "OK" button to get rid of the error message. (BTW, the application in question continues to work fine even when the error message is on the screen).
I know that this notification error is due to the fact that the device cuts off power to the storage card after a period of time, and I have tried applying the known registry hacks to delay the power-off, but to no avail.
What I am interested in doing is finding some way (through a registry edit or hack) to completely prevent the device from displaying notificaiton errors, or perhaps finding someway to automate the process of hitting the "OK" button so that I won't have to do it 50 times a day.
Please note that I am aware of the procedure for using PHM Pocket PC PowerToys to completely delete scheduled notifications to eliminate notification errors resulting from a bad uninstall. However, this procedure will not work for me since I want to actually keep the offending application installed.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
David
P.S. The application I am trying to run is VGSmail.
Hello All,
I am running
ROM: TNT.1933 TouchFLO Edition
I/SPL is 2.25
Radio is 2.19.11 and
OS is 11.0.0.1
TNT comes with Oxios Hibernate and CloseApps, which seems to have very naughty behavior on my system. I can only ever open one application, even if I just switch to “Today” from an open app, the app I was in closes (not shown in Task Manager, truly closed). This stinks. Tried to delete the .exe files, but can’t – they’re marked as “ROM” and “READ ONLY” and can’t make a change to those – just reverts right back. Also can’t kill the prog via task manager because it doesn’t show up there. Please please please tell me how to get rid of this program bundle – I really really hate it!
Thanks!
-tynk-
Both oxious closeapp and hibernate only do something when YOU run them...they run once and exit...the difference between the two is closeapps tries to close ALL apps...hibernate tries to free as much memory as it can without closing any apps.
Neither would be closing any apps without your knowledge.
that's what I thought, too!
But soft reset or shutdown/restart, and upon loading the today screen, the progs up and running (can see the closeapps bars in upper left corner of the screen). I checked startup and it isn't in there (even checked "show all files" in case it's hidden, but nothing).
From my research (yes, I did try figuring this out on my own - other than a couple mentions of instability with these two progs and WM6, there wasn't any good help to be found ), I thought if I didn't click on either icon, it wouldn't start but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
They are somehow loading/starting automatically, so even if I could change the attributes so they were 'delete-able', if I can't get them to stop running (again, neither is visible in taskmanager), I won't be able to delete them! Arrrggg!
Thanks for the response, though! Any other thoughts?
First, any programs built into the rom can NOT be removed. You could create dummy files (create a blank text file and rename it to the name of the file you want to "remove" and it will be used instead of the one in the rom).
For them to be starting automatically as you claim, then there has to be either a link for them in the \Windows\Startup folder, or an entry in the registry (look in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\init , or just do a search with a registry editor).
But as Famewolf indicated, what you are describing is NOT how either of these programs work. They don't stay in memory and continue to run. You start them, they try to free up memory (in two different ways depending on which one you run) and then put up a dialog to show you what they did. After you close the dialog then they exit.
I'm not doubting the behavior you are seeing on your phone, but I am doubting that you are looking in the right direction claiming that the Oxios apps are causing this. As I tell people that run my own roms... If things don't work for you, then switch to a different rom. Also, if you've installed ANYTHING on the rom, then make sure what you have installed is working properly and isn't what is causing the issue. If you hardreset or reflash, and do NOT install anything else, do you still see this same behavior?
Finally, due to the odd nature of your problem, did you by chance install the rom, then do some sort of restore from like spb backup or sprite backup or similar? If so, you've most likely screwed up the registry as you can not restore a backup from one rom to another one.
Good luck, and hope maybe this helps you in figuring out what is going on.
famewolf said:
Both oxious closeapp and hibernate only do something when YOU run them...they run once and exit...
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NOT TRUE!
oxios with skull icon(i forgot its name, because i am not using it, only hibernate..)WILL close ANY app that is running in background!!!!!
so be aware of this.,
nothin said:
NOT TRUE!
oxios with skull icon(i forgot its name, because i am not using it, only hibernate..)WILL close ANY app that is running in background!!!!!
so be aware of this.,
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guys, both of you are right
first, both oxios apps will be started after the request from the user, then do their job and exit. The skull-one will close apps, the snowflake (or what it is) will free memory. But none of the application will be running in background, closing everything the user starts
His observation is correct, silly as it may sound.
For a long time i wondered why my apps would keep closing (i was using mbutton so i could see which apps were open), as soon as i opened another app, the app which went to background would get closed, even though I would have plenty of program memory free. I started tracking the reason for this and soon found out that this behaviour started as soon as i executed oxios hibernate. It would keep happening until i did a soft-reset, after which the system would work fine until (guess what!) i ran the hibernate app again!
Best thing to do is get the sktools lite version and use its free ram shortcut. Or better yet, forget about free ram at all, remove all indicators on your today screen etc etc, and surprisingly you'll never be worried about free ram and your system will work smoothly enough. If you're so worried about free ram, schedule your system to automatically soft reset once a day during the night.
ammarr said:
His observation is correct, silly as it may sound.
For a long time i wondered why my apps would keep closing (i was using mbutton so i could see which apps were open), as soon as i opened another app, the app which went to background would get closed, even though I would have plenty of program memory free. I started tracking the reason for this and soon found out that this behaviour started as soon as i executed oxios hibernate. It would keep happening until i did a soft-reset, after which the system would work fine until (guess what!) i ran the hibernate app again!
Best thing to do is get the sktools lite version and use its free ram shortcut. Or better yet, forget about free ram at all, remove all indicators on your today screen etc etc, and surprisingly you'll never be worried about free ram and your system will work smoothly enough. If you're so worried about free ram, schedule your system to automatically soft reset once a day during the night.
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I use oxios hibernate ALL THE TIME..I even have it on a quick launcher button....having apps close on their own is NOT normal behavior and I'll say again oxios hibernate is not causing this..I keep palringo and other apps running all the time in background...either your registry had issues or your rom did because it works fine here...I sometimes go days without rebooting the phone because of oxios hibernate.
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I use oxios hibernate ALL THE TIME..I even have it on a quick launcher button....having apps close on their own is NOT normal behavior and I'll say again oxios hibernate is not causing this..I keep palringo and other apps running all the time in background...either your registry had issues or your rom did because it works fine here...I sometimes go days without rebooting the phone because of oxios hibernate.
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I have traced the problem specifically back to oxios hibernate. It does not happen with sktools free ram. For some reason the WM_HIBERNATE message doesn't die and keeps killing all background applications. I've had the problem on the stock wm5, ppctuning's superrom, wrcx1 etc etc (basically all ROMs i've tried).
There could be a reason why this is just happening for some devices, i dunno, but the culprit definitely is oxios hibernate.
Have you tried to check your softkeys? I had a problem with them and even if the label says an app when I pressed the button ot activated another thing... well that happeneded sometimes... now it works correctly...
Hi All,
Thanks for all the helpful responses. I really am stumped on this one. Checked my registry (did searches for 'oxios', 'hibernate', and 'close') and found nothing. Yet after a soft-reset or normal restart, it's up and running again, and I am unable to open multiple apps or switch from one to the other and back.
I did have an odd thought - I am assuming the program in question is Oxios CloseApps, but maybe I'm wrong? I can't access any of the options on it, so just occurred to me to check. On the today screen, upper right corner, next to the time is a set of 3 small horizontal bars (forming a box) with a small up arrow. Tapping this yields a single line iconic menu that has a set of three boxes, a wrench, and a 'memory' bar with %. If I click on the boxes or wrench, nothing happens. If I click on the memory icon, it takes me to my Memory setting, showing how much storage and program memory I have, my storage card, and my running progs (no, this is not ever listed there - if only it were that easy!) This is CloseApps, right?
Thanks again for all the help!
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Hi All,
Thanks for all the helpful responses. I really am stumped on this one. Checked my registry (did searches for 'oxios', 'hibernate', and 'close') and found nothing. Yet after a soft-reset or normal restart, it's up and running again, and I am unable to open multiple apps or switch from one to the other and back.
I did have an odd thought - I am assuming the program in question is Oxios CloseApps, but maybe I'm wrong? I can't access any of the options on it, so just occurred to me to check. On the today screen, upper right corner, next to the time is a set of 3 small horizontal bars (forming a box) with a small up arrow. Tapping this yields a single line iconic menu that has a set of three boxes, a wrench, and a 'memory' bar with %. If I click on the boxes or wrench, nothing happens. If I click on the memory icon, it takes me to my Memory setting, showing how much storage and program memory I have, my storage card, and my running progs (no, this is not ever listed there - if only it were that easy!) This is CloseApps, right?
Thanks again for all the help!
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the program you are talking about is
HTC Task-Manager 2.0 / x button
go to start - settings - system - task manager
steph
I have installed applications around 45 (less than 50 for sure) but after installing the last three - four apps I found that Remove Program list is not showing anything. Immediately I removed the lastly installed four five programs using SK tools but the Remove Programs list is still blank although the programs were successfully removed. Everything is working alright though. I think something has crashed in Registry.
It also happened earlier and I had to hard reset to get it back. But this time I am seeking advices from anybody if there is a way to get back things anyway - probably by a Registry Edit.
parthabhatta said:
I have installed applications around 45 (less than 50 for sure) but after installing the last three - four apps I found that Remove Program list is not showing anything. Immediately I removed the lastly installed four five programs using SK tools but the Remove Programs list is still blank although the programs were successfully removed. Everything is working alright though. I think something has crashed in Registry.
It also happened earlier and I had to hard reset to get it back. But this time I am seeking advices from anybody if there is a way to get back things anyway - probably by a Registry Edit.
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this is a bug in windows mobile. we found it on the shadow on tmos stock rom.
there is no fix for it. just gotta use active sync to remove programs or like you used sktools.
OK, so I have to stay with the blank menu only till I hard reset.
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OK, so I have to stay with the blank menu only till I hard reset.
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yes sorry to say
I had the same problem after installing a bunch of programs and tools. But I think I found a solution: after removing VoxOC Setup.CAB "remove programs" is working again. I'm not sure that it was VoxOC Setup.CAB but give it a try....
Infact I dont have VoxOC installed in my device. So it might be something else. Anyway, thanks for your suggestion.
I installed the following programs from this thread:
- HTC_Task_Manager_2.1_34837.5.cab
- AudioManager_2.0_1819.1228.cab
- Dr. Gonzo s730 Audio Manager.cab
- Vox_BlackSecondHTCSplashscreen.cab
- Vox_BlackCommManager.cab
- Contact_changer_v1.3.cab
One of them is the villain and caused the remove program menu to appear empty! I would suspect the Second HTC Splashscreen as I had troubles removing the program...
Hello there,
I'm using PPC's since more than three years, but I never experienced such a problem like this! I'll try to reconstruct what happened:
I was coming home with my Diamond Pro in my pockets and playing music over A2DP like I do everyday. I laid switched off my headphones and BT on my Raphael. Then I connected the charging cable because battery was already low. I realized that the Raphael did'nt respond properly and made a SR (via the hole). While booting I did something else waiting for the screen for entering the PIN, but then I had to see that there was a notification like this (on a german Raphael, I just translated it to english):
audiobooster_remain.mscr
The file "audiobooster_remain" couldn't be opened. It is either not signed with a trustable security certificate or one of its components couldn't be found. If the problem keeps existing try to reinstall or restore the file.
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I have to add that I have this script (Tip #20 from here) in my autorun folder. There was behind of it the same notification for AEButtons Plus and my other autorun-apps.
But what made me wonder was the following:
The whole screen looked like the green HTC-standard design and then there appeared this screen with introductions and display calibration as we know it from hardresetting.
After that I was stunned and of course I knew that the Extended ROM setup would shortly follow. So i quickly made a SR although the o2 installation hadn't shown up until that. But after rebooting it did show up and let it do his job.
Since that everything looks like the standard o2 design and the named notifications show up after every SR. But what makes all this really weird is not the fact that all this happened automaticly and suddenly, but the fact that the device hasn't really hardresettet (although it seemed so because of the calibration and introduction screen and the standard designs)!
All of my programs are still installed and my modifications on the TF3D (e.g. I had deactivated all tabs but the music tab because I use Mobile Shell) still remained. But strangely enough my programs aren't anymore registered. Well, this alone would'nt be so bad, but the programs don't work like they should: e.g. I can't run the Mobile Shell, GScroll isn't configured anymore (as in initial state) and all the other programs (e.g. Pocket Plus) too. For most of the programs I have to confirm first before I can run the exe (e.g. Resco Explorer, which also is in initial state).
But it seems that the internal storage has been flashed, becaue the My Documents folder is also in initial state, my files aren't there anymore (but that doesn't really matter because I had the most of them on my storage card). To sum up, the Raphael really acts weird.
Something I almost forgot: There several times appeared another notification in between which I've never seen before:
It was white text on a black background (it filled the whole screen) and there stood something (in english) about that my device couldn't boot properly and probably should be hardresetted by pushing SEND and I did, but nothing happend. BTW: It wasn't the screen you know from hardresetting!
I don't know what type of screen that was and what all this is supposed to mean, but it's definitely weird! Does anybody know why this happened or does anybody know similar cases?
Of course I'm aware of the fact that flashing the device would probably be not a bad option, it would be an opportunity to update. I don't have a backup because till today everything went fine since I bought this Diamond Pro as a new device almost a half year ago. I don't remeber the ROM Version but I think it probably would be the o2-Version from a half year ago.
I really would be grateful for any good advice... Best regards
Dear all,
on my P20 Pro, unbranded, updated to Pie, when I try to use two apps (using half the screen), I often get in a situation where the list of Recent Apps is there but completely invisible:
- I see the button to remove any app (where you see the memory used)
- I can't see any app, but if I swipe and touch, then the app opens (like it is actually there..)
I hope I have been enough clear to explain.
At some point the list is visible again, it does not really require a reboot.
But this is extremely annoying.
Is this a known bug? Do you know how to fix this?
For what it matters, the phone is pretty new (3-4 days) so I think a factory reset will be useless at this point.
Thanks!
My bad.
I forgot to say that I am using SmartLauncher.
Once I switch back to the original Huawei Launcher, that "recent app" bug disappeared.