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Hello All,
I am running
ROM: TNT.1933 TouchFLO Edition
I/SPL is 2.25
Radio is 2.19.11 and
OS is 11.0.0.1
TNT comes with Oxios Hibernate and CloseApps, which seems to have very naughty behavior on my system. I can only ever open one application, even if I just switch to “Today” from an open app, the app I was in closes (not shown in Task Manager, truly closed). This stinks. Tried to delete the .exe files, but can’t – they’re marked as “ROM” and “READ ONLY” and can’t make a change to those – just reverts right back. Also can’t kill the prog via task manager because it doesn’t show up there. Please please please tell me how to get rid of this program bundle – I really really hate it!
Thanks!
-tynk-
Both oxious closeapp and hibernate only do something when YOU run them...they run once and exit...the difference between the two is closeapps tries to close ALL apps...hibernate tries to free as much memory as it can without closing any apps.
Neither would be closing any apps without your knowledge.
that's what I thought, too!
But soft reset or shutdown/restart, and upon loading the today screen, the progs up and running (can see the closeapps bars in upper left corner of the screen). I checked startup and it isn't in there (even checked "show all files" in case it's hidden, but nothing).
From my research (yes, I did try figuring this out on my own - other than a couple mentions of instability with these two progs and WM6, there wasn't any good help to be found ), I thought if I didn't click on either icon, it wouldn't start but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
They are somehow loading/starting automatically, so even if I could change the attributes so they were 'delete-able', if I can't get them to stop running (again, neither is visible in taskmanager), I won't be able to delete them! Arrrggg!
Thanks for the response, though! Any other thoughts?
First, any programs built into the rom can NOT be removed. You could create dummy files (create a blank text file and rename it to the name of the file you want to "remove" and it will be used instead of the one in the rom).
For them to be starting automatically as you claim, then there has to be either a link for them in the \Windows\Startup folder, or an entry in the registry (look in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\init , or just do a search with a registry editor).
But as Famewolf indicated, what you are describing is NOT how either of these programs work. They don't stay in memory and continue to run. You start them, they try to free up memory (in two different ways depending on which one you run) and then put up a dialog to show you what they did. After you close the dialog then they exit.
I'm not doubting the behavior you are seeing on your phone, but I am doubting that you are looking in the right direction claiming that the Oxios apps are causing this. As I tell people that run my own roms... If things don't work for you, then switch to a different rom. Also, if you've installed ANYTHING on the rom, then make sure what you have installed is working properly and isn't what is causing the issue. If you hardreset or reflash, and do NOT install anything else, do you still see this same behavior?
Finally, due to the odd nature of your problem, did you by chance install the rom, then do some sort of restore from like spb backup or sprite backup or similar? If so, you've most likely screwed up the registry as you can not restore a backup from one rom to another one.
Good luck, and hope maybe this helps you in figuring out what is going on.
famewolf said:
Both oxious closeapp and hibernate only do something when YOU run them...they run once and exit...
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NOT TRUE!
oxios with skull icon(i forgot its name, because i am not using it, only hibernate..)WILL close ANY app that is running in background!!!!!
so be aware of this.,
nothin said:
NOT TRUE!
oxios with skull icon(i forgot its name, because i am not using it, only hibernate..)WILL close ANY app that is running in background!!!!!
so be aware of this.,
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guys, both of you are right
first, both oxios apps will be started after the request from the user, then do their job and exit. The skull-one will close apps, the snowflake (or what it is) will free memory. But none of the application will be running in background, closing everything the user starts
His observation is correct, silly as it may sound.
For a long time i wondered why my apps would keep closing (i was using mbutton so i could see which apps were open), as soon as i opened another app, the app which went to background would get closed, even though I would have plenty of program memory free. I started tracking the reason for this and soon found out that this behaviour started as soon as i executed oxios hibernate. It would keep happening until i did a soft-reset, after which the system would work fine until (guess what!) i ran the hibernate app again!
Best thing to do is get the sktools lite version and use its free ram shortcut. Or better yet, forget about free ram at all, remove all indicators on your today screen etc etc, and surprisingly you'll never be worried about free ram and your system will work smoothly enough. If you're so worried about free ram, schedule your system to automatically soft reset once a day during the night.
ammarr said:
His observation is correct, silly as it may sound.
For a long time i wondered why my apps would keep closing (i was using mbutton so i could see which apps were open), as soon as i opened another app, the app which went to background would get closed, even though I would have plenty of program memory free. I started tracking the reason for this and soon found out that this behaviour started as soon as i executed oxios hibernate. It would keep happening until i did a soft-reset, after which the system would work fine until (guess what!) i ran the hibernate app again!
Best thing to do is get the sktools lite version and use its free ram shortcut. Or better yet, forget about free ram at all, remove all indicators on your today screen etc etc, and surprisingly you'll never be worried about free ram and your system will work smoothly enough. If you're so worried about free ram, schedule your system to automatically soft reset once a day during the night.
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I use oxios hibernate ALL THE TIME..I even have it on a quick launcher button....having apps close on their own is NOT normal behavior and I'll say again oxios hibernate is not causing this..I keep palringo and other apps running all the time in background...either your registry had issues or your rom did because it works fine here...I sometimes go days without rebooting the phone because of oxios hibernate.
famewolf said:
I use oxios hibernate ALL THE TIME..I even have it on a quick launcher button....having apps close on their own is NOT normal behavior and I'll say again oxios hibernate is not causing this..I keep palringo and other apps running all the time in background...either your registry had issues or your rom did because it works fine here...I sometimes go days without rebooting the phone because of oxios hibernate.
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I have traced the problem specifically back to oxios hibernate. It does not happen with sktools free ram. For some reason the WM_HIBERNATE message doesn't die and keeps killing all background applications. I've had the problem on the stock wm5, ppctuning's superrom, wrcx1 etc etc (basically all ROMs i've tried).
There could be a reason why this is just happening for some devices, i dunno, but the culprit definitely is oxios hibernate.
Have you tried to check your softkeys? I had a problem with them and even if the label says an app when I pressed the button ot activated another thing... well that happeneded sometimes... now it works correctly...
Hi All,
Thanks for all the helpful responses. I really am stumped on this one. Checked my registry (did searches for 'oxios', 'hibernate', and 'close') and found nothing. Yet after a soft-reset or normal restart, it's up and running again, and I am unable to open multiple apps or switch from one to the other and back.
I did have an odd thought - I am assuming the program in question is Oxios CloseApps, but maybe I'm wrong? I can't access any of the options on it, so just occurred to me to check. On the today screen, upper right corner, next to the time is a set of 3 small horizontal bars (forming a box) with a small up arrow. Tapping this yields a single line iconic menu that has a set of three boxes, a wrench, and a 'memory' bar with %. If I click on the boxes or wrench, nothing happens. If I click on the memory icon, it takes me to my Memory setting, showing how much storage and program memory I have, my storage card, and my running progs (no, this is not ever listed there - if only it were that easy!) This is CloseApps, right?
Thanks again for all the help!
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Hi All,
Thanks for all the helpful responses. I really am stumped on this one. Checked my registry (did searches for 'oxios', 'hibernate', and 'close') and found nothing. Yet after a soft-reset or normal restart, it's up and running again, and I am unable to open multiple apps or switch from one to the other and back.
I did have an odd thought - I am assuming the program in question is Oxios CloseApps, but maybe I'm wrong? I can't access any of the options on it, so just occurred to me to check. On the today screen, upper right corner, next to the time is a set of 3 small horizontal bars (forming a box) with a small up arrow. Tapping this yields a single line iconic menu that has a set of three boxes, a wrench, and a 'memory' bar with %. If I click on the boxes or wrench, nothing happens. If I click on the memory icon, it takes me to my Memory setting, showing how much storage and program memory I have, my storage card, and my running progs (no, this is not ever listed there - if only it were that easy!) This is CloseApps, right?
Thanks again for all the help!
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the program you are talking about is
HTC Task-Manager 2.0 / x button
go to start - settings - system - task manager
steph
Hi
I've got a strange problem, that appeared last week, without any particular reason. Actually, I just launch a program (Scumm, an emulator for some abandonware games) on my HTC Touch Pro 2, then I quit.
After this quit, here's the problem :
Some icons on the task bar are masked by a sort of box. I say "masked" instead of "disappeared" because one of them is just masked at 50%, and the "sound icon" (mute / volume) appears for 1 second when I raise up or down the sound. I still see the button for closing or switching applications, and I see the Wifi icon.
When I change the wallpaper, the "hiding box" changes color too. So, it's not really black.
Finally, the problem appears also in "landscape" mode.
Soft reset doesn't solve the problem. I've tryed to restore a recent backup... but my version of "Sprite Backup" is finished, so I can't restore any backup made with it... :-/ I don't wan't to do a hard reset, because I don't have other backups.
Have you ever meet (and solved ?) this problem ?
Thanks in advance
PS : sorry for my poor english
A screen shot would help. You've probably got some program starting up automatically and running in the background. Check your Startup folder.
Ok, I'll try to make a screenshot this evening (I'm at work now, and I don't have my USB cable).
Or, is there a way to do it directly with the phone, without additional software ?
In the windows/startup folder ("démarrage" in french), i've got this :
- BTTtrayCE.lnk
- poutlook.lnk
- PKG.lnk
- HTCStartUp.lnk
- DelWMPTempFolder.lnk
seems to be normal.
Here's some screenshots in attached files.
Notice 3 things :
- the network icon is cut
- In the third screen, I've succeeded in displaying the "sound icon" by pressing the "volume button". But the icon just appears 1 second.
- there is not enough place to put the "battery icon" or the Time/Date.
Any idea, anybody ?
have you tried un-installing the programs you are suspecting that is causing the problem?
Actually, I've removed every program I had installed these few days (not so much : sprite backup trial, skyfire and The Core Media Player).
But it didn't change anything.
The problems appears just after launching the software "scummVM" (but it wasn't the first time i was launching it), but this software wasn't "installed". I directly launch it from the files in my storage card.
First of all, thanks to chui101 and all the other people here who put in the effort to get CyanogenMod to run on this phone. However, I'm having a bit of a problem with my phone slowing down severely and becoming unresponsive, usually at the lock screen. The specific issue is that the lock screen will be on screen, but not respond to button presses, or respond very slowly, and then it will do the "old CRT television turning off" effect much much slower than it's supposed to (think close to a minute), go blank for a while, the lock screen comes back up, another very slow screen turn off effect, and the whole process keeps repeating until I get tired of it and pull the battery to reboot the phone. This issue happens to me with both the 2012-11-21 and 2012-11-25 nightlies. To me, the behavior sort of seems like an out of memory issue, maybe some program is leaking memory or something.
Things that cause the freezing issue:
Power button presses too close together
2 cases of a call coming in while the phone is locked and playing music in Apollo
Things I've tried thus far:
Switch launcher from Trebuchet to NovaLauncher
Set Background Process Limit from "Standard Limit" to "At most 3 processes"
Set "Force GPU rendering"
Remove SD card
Out of those, pulling the SD card is the only one that seemed to help. The SD card I had installed was a 16GB SanDisk Class 2 card with ~3.7 GB of music along with less than 10MB of small text files, ring tones in .wav format, pictures, etc.
I put the 2GB card that originally came in the phone back in, this card currently has nothing but the text files and ringtones and a few pictures.
Is anyone else getting hit with this problem? What can I do to help? I don't know much about android ROM development, but I can handle collecting a LogCat from a case where the problem I'm describing is happening and know a reasonable amount about general Linux stuff, just not Android internals.
Thanks!
I used to own an LG Mytouch Q, the only reason I'm even remotely interested in this thread.
However, you should definitely post in that specific thread, as it's basically the only group of Mytouch owners and they should give you lots more help
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I would, but I just joined here so I can't post in the dev forums. I'm hoping someone there will see this post.
Update
With the smaller SD card without all the music files installed, I'm getting less of the freezing problem, although I am not certain whether this is due to the music files not being there, or me not using the phone to play music. I guess the next part of this experiment is to go back to the card with the music files on it but not play any of them. I did grab a LogCat from one of the cases where the phone is 'freezing' and see a bunch of "Application Not Responding" messages, and the CPU usage stats that follow these messages indicate that most of the CPU time is being used by 'iowait,' for instance "100% TOTAL: 0.3% user + 6.9% kernel + 92% iowait". I've read some threads relating to other phones indicating that this could be some process poking around somewhere in storage. I'm thinking that running top from adb shell next time the phone ends up in this state might give some clue as to what's eating the CPU.
Also, I've hit the issue with email message bodies showing up blank that others on this phone, and on CM9 on the non-keyboard LG Mytouch (E739) have experienced.
Hope I'm not spamming with yet another status update, but I tried disabling live wallpapers (going instead to no wallpaper/black screen) last night, and I haven't had any of the freezing problems today. I'll try adding the music files back and see if the problems return then.
* Update 11/29/2012
I put the 16GB card with ~4GB of music back in the phone, used it all day at work for listening to music/checking email/some web browsing without any crashes. (Still with live wallpaper disabled) So, I'm starting to think live wallpapers are causing my problem.
Hey there, I have kind of trouble with my PQ.
The PQ sometimes fails to boot correctly.
Booting the PQ results in a short (a few seconds) backlight and then dark. (Important: No picture or text is shown!)
Then there are two errors I've experienced so far:
- after the backlight is dark, I press a button (POWER/VOL_UP-DOWN/CAMERA) and it vibrates. After a few times of pressing and vibrating, it vibrates long and it then seems to be off. Since the backlight is off, I can't know if it's really off.
- after the backlight is dark, I do nothing except sliding out the keyboard (backlight is off). In this error it seems to start "correctly", because after some time the keyboard backlight goes on. That means, that "android" has bootet and is waiting for password entry (because of encrypted phone).
Either way, I have to reboot several times until it boots correctly. (With some luck it takes only 2-3 times.)
Some notes:
- I have to put my sdcard off, because the password entry doesn't appear if it's in. (ext4 filesystem, android seems to want to decrypt that -.-)
- [needs more testing] The phone has had force resets. I think it was my Access Point/Router, causing the WLAN (or qualcomm SoC) to hang. I changed the screen-part (touchscreen+display etc.), seems not to help. (I also disabled that Access Point/router, so I'm still waiting for a force reset.)
- [needs more testing] Sometimes the SIM-card and/or sdcard is not recognized after a reboot/cold boot. I have to reboot to get it back to work. SIM-card recognition may take more than one reboot.
What's in /system?
- CM11 M11 snapshot
- gapps
- XPosed framework (it boots and everything actually works fine)
...if I forgot anything, I will notice that in a later post or edit this and notice in a new post.
I also have a problem with wakeups again (started just a few days ago, after uninstalling two apps...). That's weird, but I can't find the cause. Neither in the XPosed Logs nor in catlog. I need to investigate it further.
I tried to be very exact and I've put anything that might be relevant into this post.
If you have any ideas (no matter how implausibly they are), post them. I am out of any ideas.
It might be helpful to get a log when it boots "incorrect", but I'm sure it's not written anywhere inside the system.
The good thing is, my wakelock problem "disappeared".
The PQ is having deep sleep again.
I have no idea what the wakelock caused...
No force reboot so far.
Another good thing: the force reboots are gone after disabling the AP/router which probably was the cause.
A stable week for me, the phone didn't crash at all.
Of course the other issues stays.
Saturdays (today) the phone is being rebooted by Titanium Backup. Like a wonder, the phone chose to show the password input (encrypted phone; with sdcard inserted).
After entering the password and some boot-time, the mobile part (SIM-card etc.) chose not to work.
A reboot didn't help and I've got into the annoying problem, that I get a blank black screen with backlight but it boots "normally" (without anything displayed).
It took about 20-30 minutes with trial and error on getting it up with the mobile part again.
BUT: I've found today something new, beside the issue this morning.
Bluetooth seems to be enabled always! It's probably caused by Llama (android app).
Needs also further testing, just wanted to write that somewhere down, so I don't forget.
More details: After disabling it, my "PS3 headset" wanted to pair with "all" devices nearby.
I got pairing messages on the PQ even with disabled BT.
Loader009 said:
Another good thing: the force reboots are gone after disabling the AP/router which probably was the cause.
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(If anyone cares) the force reboots are gone after setting preamble to "long" (PQ malfunctioning if set to "short") in the router.
The other problem persists but are not that bad because it happens rarely that I need to reboot (soft reboot is mostly enough).
This mean bug hit us twice, so that it might be helpful do document it in order to help other persons with the same problems.
Symptoms:
Home button does no longer work.
Notifications and notification pulldown menu do not work (as consequence, data transfer via USB cable is impossible).
Quick settings do not work.
Factory reset does not work.
Developer mode cannot be enabled (as a consequence, no adb connection possible).
Automatic orientation disabled after every reboot.
Mobile data enabled (!) after every reboot (very funny if you pay 0,23 EUR per megabyte and do not notice...)
When changing volume using the physical keys, the device sometimes reboots.
This list is not necessarily complete, as there might be more symptoms.
According to various investigations (see links below) the system thinks that the Setup Wizard is still running. This bug presumably was introduced with some Android version (Oct 2015), came to the Moto G, and when the bug was removed, the Moto G did not get the corrected OS version.
When does the problem appear?
There are strong indications that the problem always occurs whenever the device runs out of (flash) memory. Note that our device did not have an SD when the problem appeared.
How can one heal the device?
There have been some recommendations how to repair the phone (see links below):
Change user
Run the SetupWizardTestActivity via adb
Run some additional command (see below) via adb.
Run the SetupWizardTestActivity via Nova Launcher.
Factory reset via Recovery.
What did really help?
In fact all methods 1 .. 4 failed, because no adb connection could be established (see Topic 5. of the symptoms), and the Setup Wizard got to an endless loop when I started it via Nova Launcher. So finally I used the Recovery system to reset the device.
If anybody ran into the same trap or has a better solution, please tell!
See also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/help/moto-g3-properly-t3449495
http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/help/status-notification-bar-pull-t3435441
http://forums.androidcentral.com/an...me-button-not-working-many-more-problems.html
http://forums.androidcentral.com/mo...sing-huge-problems-moto-x-2nd-gen-2014-a.html
http://infomash.net/home-button-not-working-after-updating-to-android-marshmallow/
How to reset the Moto G
Reflash stock image via fastboot... if it continues to fail and you followed all instructions EXACTLY, your handset is defective, get it repaired or replace it.
The "setup wizard" bug is a known, but extremely rare, issue... but the symptoms are not the same as what you are experiencing. Home/Back/Recent buttons do not work -AND- the notification pull down do not work, in every case reported simply re-running setup wizard corrects the issue.
symptoms same , root reason may differ
Tenebrous sound thy words, and partially enigmatic is their meaning.
In fact:
- I forgot to mention the non-working notification pulldown menu, so I added this in post #1.
- Thus the noticed symptoms exactly match those described in the links I provided.
- However, the root reason might subtly differ, and, additionally, all proposed therapies except factory reset failed in our case.
- It might help to re-flash the stock or flash an alternative image to cure the device, but it was not necessary in our case, so it's not really a better solution.
I found this Lenovo Moto G3 forum dealing with the same problem:
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/MOTO-G...cations-and-lock-screen-not-work/td-p/3255406
Post #9 mentions "my storage was running out".
Here is another one, for a slightly different device:
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/MOTO-X...on-notifications-lock-screen-not/td-p/3354948
hey to chime in, I've got the same situatrion as of a few days ago on my Motorola Droid Maxx 2. WISH I could find a root exploit for this damned thing. I hate dealing with issues on it. Who has time for this garbage? I plan to do a factory reset (or try while expecting a failure as noted in original post here.)
Thanks for documenting your issue Ahkah as it at least has helped me feel OK about myself here. Excellent choice of wording. To the other poster, why do you speak so authoritatively to say that if _____, phone is defective? That's annoying and not true unless somehow here at android-is-still-interesting.com "defective phone" means "I dont know what happened."
What I have in common to your described condition:
- ran "low" on storage according to pop up.
- used some feature offering to "clean" hard disk or whatever. This may have been in FX file browser or else a native android feature or else a motorola app feature. Unfortunately dont recall. One of the few options it gave was to clear cache of all apps. Seemed risky to me but I hit it any way. This may have been the root cause.
- notification pull down reads only "no notifications."
- circle and square softkeys do nothing but give the visual feedback or sometimes vibration feedback that acknowledges the button press.
- pulling down from top of screen while bnotification area is already pulled down does nothing whereas normally it would open quick actions.
- searching /system for "wizard" comes back with a lot of results for apks, all of which do nothing, throw error, or install more of themselves.
- clicking developer options tells me that dev options are not available for this user. As far as I can tell there are no other users on my phone.
- clicking build number or whichever item in about phone multiple times to enable dev options does nothing.
- volume buttons to act funky and while fiddling with the phone that was one of the few things i was doing. simultaneously the phone was repeatedly rebooting. maybe correlated but i dont know i was messing with everything i knew to try.
Additional observations:
- phone takes a long time to boot up on some power off/ power ons.
- phone largely works if i could somehow ignore all the above.
- phone sometimes reboots mid-boot animation
- all above is observed after freeing up 3 gb on internal memory and i've had multiple gb free on sd card throughout issue.
I hate you motorola. I hate you google. I hate you verizon. I hate you CIA and NSA. I hate you United States. I hate you capitalism. I hate you imperialism. I hate you western world. I hate you ideology. I hate you technology. I DONT EVEN WANT A PHONE and this is how i get to spend an hour today.