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I have tried Timolol's WM6.5 and...I forgot the other...and this one was good for awhile but it's getting insanely buggy.
If you like the ROM you're on, and have been on it for a bit, then point me in the direction. I'd really like to use 6.5 but if I can't find a stable one, then I'll have to revert back to 6.1
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DaG's WM6.5 21518 Clean ROM without MSVC is working very well for me.
Learn how to use UC and proper backup tools and then you can flash away and try as many roms as you want!
This is such an open ended question because many people have personal preference.
with that said. I would recommend NRG's EnergyROM, very stable 6.5, been using the june 30th version with a couple minor cosmetic issues, which i do not even remember what they are.
EnergyROM works also great and stable for me.
My experience was different from most those posting here. I found the 6.5's buggy. Third party calendar programs are particularly problematic (reoccuring events not even showing, to name one problem). I wanted to like the EnergyROM's... really I did... but alas, I went back to 6.1. So far, I'm experiencing stability with NATF v4.7 and liking it. I won't go back to the stock ROM.
fuze2011 said:
I have tried Timolol's WM6.5 and...I forgot the other...and this one was good for awhile but it's getting insanely buggy.
If you like the ROM you're on, and have been on it for a bit, then point me in the direction. I'd really like to use 6.5 but if I can't find a stable one, then I'll have to revert back to 6.1
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Hi, have used PROven_ROM_2.4_WWE_Manila_TP (it's WM6.1) - very good,stable and fast.
Then got Energy 3.0 50409a MSVC Raph (wM6.5) and I'm absolutely happy with it. Didn't encountered any problem so far, NRG28 does his ROM's in top level-very professional!
If you want a clean ROM with very little battery usage go with RRE's or Da_G's for absolutely stock. NRG's uses way too much battery, I enjoy charging once every 2-3 days rather than once a day but to each his own..
The most stable and bug free ROM is the latest HTC official ROM. As Da_G said in other thread, there are serious issues in 6.5, so there is no such thing as stable 6.5 ROM - eventually you will face with unnacceptable bugs, like some of XDA members did...
Like what? I don't see many if any bugs that hinder my day to day activities in 6.5, it runs smoother, it's sleeker and unreleased to the public giving it that extra "shimmer", and the built in scrolling effects are just amazing.
What bugs are you speaking of??
WHAT???
pilgrim011- There is a bug free version of WM?
When did that happen?
I too like the energyroms.
I put my crap battery life down to not having found a decent UK T-mob radio yet rather than the rom
X2D said:
Like what? I don't see many if any bugs that hinder my day to day activities in 6.5, it runs smoother, it's sleeker and unreleased to the public giving it that extra "shimmer", and the built in scrolling effects are just amazing.
What bugs are you speaking of??
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For example, this is one of 6.5 users:
dwmackay said:
I was on the 6 hour flight and decided to play with the phone a bit out of boredom. It was locked up.
No problem soft reset. Continued to lock-up.
No problem, PIM Backup, Hard reset. Then the keyboard would not switch to ABC from 123.
No problem, switch to another SIP. It would hold the change; it kept switching back to the ROM default. No problem, just use the hardware keyboard. A couple of great days in Ireland and it was time to take a quick phone pic to send home. Camera would not work; missed the moment. Fiddled with it a bit, could not get it to work.
No problem, hard reset and try again. Camera works now, keyboard seems to have fixed itself, but phone turns off randomly.
No problem, flash another ROM I have on my storage card. Everything works now except the phone. It has a signal for 5 minutes, then no signal for 5 minutes, over and over.
No problem, switch to manual network selection, could not access the settings.
No problem, hard reset. Works fine now. Ready to take a quick picture at a golf outing where I did not lug my Nikon around. Phone has turned itself off again, missed the moment. Time to surf up some quick directions, IE locks-up.
No Problem, switch to Opera, takes forever to load, my sister already has the directions on her damn iPhone before opera even loads.
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imaginarynumber said:
WHAT???
pilgrim011- There is a bug free version of WM?
When did that happen?
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OK, don't get me wrong, there are things that I don't like - low in-call volume, TF3D is sometimes behaving weird etc., but there is always a .cab or .reg to solve these issues, and to tell you the truth, there are no serious issues with HTC ROM, phone is stable and solid as a rock. Of course, Energy ROMs are way faster and more pretty than official ROMs, but I prefer my battery life, stability etc. over speed, beauty and bugginess... And I don't want to flash my phone every 5 days.
Fair enough pilgrim011
Btw has anyone found a work around for the word completion on the keyboard that actually works regardless of wm version???
For what its worth I love/hate wm6.5- I hate that everyone now thinks that we have to have icons because we are too thick to use menus, if I really was that thick I would have purchased an iphone!!!
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Fair enough pilgrim011
Btw has anyone found a work around for the word completion on the keyboard that actually works regardless of wm version???
For what its worth I love/hate wm6.5- I hate that everyone now thinks that we have to have icons because we are too thick to use menus, if I really was that thick I would have purchased an iphone!!!
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I recommend the fastest bestest most stable rom out there.
and I thought the reason we have all those iphone-alikes was so we could be almost cool enough to have an ibone. err.. iphone.
Hi I was just wanting some conformation that i am not the only person who finds windows mobile 6.5 on the HTC HD2 an almost un usable experience.
It crashes so many times in a day, you try to unlock it by sliding the unlock tab and it get to the edge and does nothing, you can’t press any button apart from the off button again and then you have start the whole thing again and if your lucky... after 5 attempts it works or you have to reset!
The typing in messages and on most other programs is so slow it cant keep up, it hangs and stalls and looses most of the spaces and jumps around the txt typing in where ever it wants.
Its incapable to switch from the home screen to the programs screen without stalling and hanging around, and the general user experience of all the user input is slow!
Forgive me if this is covered ground for everyone but for me it’s the most powerful phone on the market and it’s still useless!?
Does anyone have and tips? or any other rants about it?
you can always flash it
Dude just flash a custom ROM on there, what phone do you have and what network?
Before flashing, try doing a hard-reset (you'll have to do that anyway if you are going to flash). See if that solves the problem. Could well be that it is some prog or a left-over of some prog that is screwing things up. I still have the shipped ROM on-board and it runs silky smooth, until I try to be too clever, but then it's my fault
Good luck!
im on a HD2 and looking at puting android on it, but waiting for a new memory card later this week.
what other roms can i flash to it? im on o2...?
but my point was rarther why the hell can microsoft get away wit hreleasing stuff that doesent work still but help is great!
its nothing to do with microsoft, MS release software to a developer who then fits it in to a handset, that process need drivers and a much of work, its not like Windows on a desktop where you can simply update a driver or two with an exe.
read all of the work here regarding flashing, Update to a new ROM, i use Energy, make sure you do it correctly, and it will fly, i have Energys latest and its great, no crashes, good bat, very fast, there is nothing id like to change...well the HSDPA is crap but that might just be my area.
Speaking of Android, i have a copy running from my SD and removing the obvious issues with it just now and assuming it will be fixed by the time it becomes flashable Android brigs nothing new, in my opinion its the same as WM6.5.x with sence 2.5 the only advantage that i can see is the app store
ahh i see, so HTC are to blame for it all! ok i will have a look at some other roms but the app store on andoid was one of the main reasons i wanted to switch to that, winmo marketplace is just awfull and full of usless junk.
there are alot of different stages in puting android on do you have to do all the same spl, radio and other changes to get other roms working?
i HATE wm with a passion! get rid of it lol and put android on it!
WM is just fine for me.
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ahh i see, so HTC are to blame for it all! ok i will have a look at some other roms but the app store on andoid was one of the main reasons i wanted to switch to that, winmo marketplace is just awfull and full of usless junk.
there are alot of different stages in puting android on do you have to do all the same spl, radio and other changes to get other roms working?
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Yeah, as was said before, it's not necessarily MS's fault the rom sucks. First, HTC effs everything up and then the carrier drops the final turds in the mix. Look for OMarket-it has many more apps than marketplace, and they're all free. There's a lot of junk, but there's very good stuff there, too.
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ahh i see, so HTC are to blame for it all! ok i will have a look at some other roms but the app store on andoid was one of the main reasons i wanted to switch to that, winmo marketplace is just awfull and full of usless junk.
there are alot of different stages in puting android on do you have to do all the same spl, radio and other changes to get other roms working?
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In a manor of speak yes HTC are to blame for most of the issues we have on the devices, first and formost is the fact that HTC never licenced the graphics drivers from QC, second MS provide a blank slate that HTC fills in, lets assume for a second that its all up to MS and in so asuming every WM device ever made is also MS fault, then why is it that some devices work fantastic? the reason is because the manufacture and finally the networks stick their greedy paws on it and bodge it, this is exactly why windows phone 7 is so locked down, MS know for well that the manufactures and networks screw their image so much with WM that they have reduced their ability to do so.
but anyway you will believe what you want, if you look at a ROM with a preconception that its going to be crap then you will only ever see a crap ROM so you may as well give up now.
as for the app store vs the WM market place, your choice of words is intresting.
the marketplace actually has quite a few pieces of decent software, you know in the £20+ range, the app store has shed loads of....well, crap really, but there is much more to choose from and you are more likely to find something thats worth getting so again its down to choice, quality / quantity to suite your needs argument again.
installing android is easy if you already have HSPL 2 or 3 installed. seriously worth reading the guides to make sure you have the correct versions of radio and ROM installed!!
So flash the latest radio, and one of the recomended ROMs, ive used energy without issue, once you done that its just a matter of downloading a build of android, that usually containes everything to give things a quick bash, if you fancy it, you can then do some updating, but its your call, if your using cooked ROMs then as long as you have a recent ROM your most of the way there.
ive tried a newer android build for a couple of days and again, assuming all the bugs are to go and speed is improved, i still dont see a huge difference, its perhaps a bit more refreshing, but its also a bit more limited, ill continue to test it out
Sorry it took me so long to get back but thanks for all of this im now happily running froyo 2.1 on the hd2 now looking for an updated cooked rom because of the google update!
yeah I know
Seems to of been pulled off the market, unless it's just me?
Anyone else notice this? I've searched for the author as well and have come up with nothing.
Got the same prob...
Got a notification earlier saying that there were updates available, so went to the Market to update. Among the updates were also one for Regina, but it couldn't install :/ I've also tried searching, but found nothing..
I think that maybe it's about to exit beta, so pulling it from Market to launch "final" version might be necessary. I don't really see any other reason for removing it??
Would make sense. Its nearly perfect now, its performance has greatly increased
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Same, they pulled it from the market. So do I think that beta time ended and the final version is close to come
Just updated my rom, reinstalling everything and the launcher wasnt there. I am very glad to know it isnt just me either. I thought it was something I did because other things were working as well. Hope it comes back soon. Developers took huge strides in improvement and has gradually became 1 of my faves.
Yup I'm looking for it and its not there :/
They temporarily pulled it due to the latest update crashing some phones.
facebook(dot)com/pages/Regina-3D-Launcher/200100660029694
Regina launcher
Should wait unroll the final release then....
EDIT: This bug has been fixed thanks to SebastianFM's talent and his new kernel v1.30.2
You can find it there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23817605&postcount=1674
Thanks to all the people, gamers or not, who contributed to track this bug down, tried several ROMs/kernel and reported their results
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HTC did it again I fear, in ICS, our touchscreen drivers have a major problem.
You may have not noticed it at all since it only concerns "dual touch", but not when swiping fingers, so pinch to zoom is OK.
Here is this bug, I'll try to explain it, but watch the very short video I made to clearly show it, it's way better than words!
The problem occures only if you're using two fingers on the screen, it never occures with 3 or 4 fingers.
If you keep a finger pressed on the screen (touch 0) , then "click" the screen several times with another finger (touch1), two very annoying events will happen:
1) touch0 and touch1 will swap, even if you never released touch0. The only way to avoid it is to move touch0
2) touch1 may sometimes become sticky (especially if you click fast, then slowly), for some milliseconds or even for 2 or 3 seconds
Many of you may never notice this bug, since there's mostly one kind of apps that require this kind of "touch behaviour"=> games, especially racing games.
You keep one finger pressed to accelerate, then click briefly with another finger to steer left/right. The result of the bug is that the car will stop accelerating, stop steering until you release the first finger again......
Here is another testimony, explaining the problem in different words:
Originally Posted by kdm06
I think I replicated the fault you had via multi touch vis from the market. It is specific but reproducible. Holding down one finger, rapidly tap with the other finger. After a few taps the order of the inputs reverses. ie it takes the tap as input 1 even though the other finger has been pressed constantly. This is visualised by a colour change of the input points. I can see how this could be an issue gaming. Afraid I don't have the skills to tackle it though. Just thought I would state that I can see it.
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HERE IS THE VIDEO OF THE PROBLEM:
http://youtu.be/30ogIc_Yib0
NOTE:
- I tried 3 different ICS ROMs, 2 of them based on 3.30.401.101, they all had the problem, it is included in HTC's code (so I guess into touchscreen drivers)
- This problem did not exist in Gingerbread ROMs
-other people could duplicate this bug, you can try it by yourself with a multitouch tester from the market, do like I do in my video, if you can't duplicate it, please tell me!!!!!
I know it may only concern gamers, but I feel like having a resistive screen again
I wish a coder here could have a look at ICS touchscreen drivers to find a workaround to this bug
Stupide question : could it be possible to simply take Gingerbread touchscreen drivers and use them instead of ICS included ones? If yes, where are those drivers located?
Stupide question 2: are these drivers part of the ROM, of the kernel, or part of the firmware?? (<= coding noob inside )
THANKS IN ADVANCE !
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Not only gamers are concerned:
DeoreDX said:
I've noticed this for a while because although I dint play games I use the ics multi touch keyboard holding down numbers button to type numbers and you let go of the button and it goes back to letters and it doesn't work right any more.
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Weird... I just tried it with a multitouch tester app and had the same thing happen.
It's not a massive problem (for me anyway), but im still interested in what's causing it.
Also, how is it "like having a resistive screen again"?
Other than if you do this one thing the screen works perfectly....
happened to me while playin dead space.
Has happened to me while playing .
I have never noticed this issue but its definately something that im sure most of us would like fixed, have you forwarded this on to some devs?
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Also, how is it "like having a resistive screen again"?
Other than if you do this one thing the screen works perfectly....
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That's the point: resistive screens were able to recognize only one point, just one finger.
A trick was developed to emulate (with less or more success) pinch to zoom, (if my memory is good,using the fact that if you touched two points on a resistive screen, it was like if touching only one point in the middle of your 2 fingers)
That's what we had on smartphones, except the iphone mad (and some RARE with low CPU devices?)
Then came the HD2!
Beside its 1ghz CPU (the HD2 was not the first, Toshiba came first), the HD2 was a real revolution with its dualtouch capacitive screen, allowing Windows Mobile users to finally play games like it was already possible on an iphone, emulators became great (try to play mario or a racing game with only one finger^^), some native racing games were out, etc
Why do I feel like an old school smartphone user now? lool It was only 3 or 4 years ago
Now I feel like having with a resistive screen again, impossible to fully enjoy Fpse, N64oid, SNESoid, NESoid, GEARoid, etc
Even some native Android Games tend to be hard to play, especially racing games if you don't want to use the G-sensor (also some FPS, when your character refuses to shoot, or keeps on alking for 2 seconds after releasing the screen, etc)
Well, that's a gamer bug I fear
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I have never noticed this issue but its definately something that im sure most of us would like fixed, have you forwarded this on to some devs?
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I've talked about this bug in ARHD thread, since it's the ROM I'm using, but in vain, I guess it's something a ROM chef (with all respect due) won't/can't fix, so I'm posting here to try to get coders' (maybe kernel developers?) attention
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Thanks all for reporting that you have this bug too, and for your attention, I feel less lonely now
Just tested this issue on multitouch tester, using arhd 6.3.0 firmware 3.30. Thanks for making us aware with this issue
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I think this may be kernel related, send a couple pm's to kernel dev's it wont hurt
I don't think much can be done until ICS kernel source is released officially
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I don't think much can be done until ICS kernel source is released officially
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Jan seems to be good at editing, try him, he managed to hexedit a nice OC/UV kernel....
I have also noticed this when playing zombie dash but i thought it was a problem with the game
I fear we'll have to wait until HTC releases the source of the kernel .....
And I'm pretty sure they will release it as-it-is, including the bug (they've done it before!)
I confirm that i have the same problem while playing modern combat and asphalt.
Didn't have this problem with GB ROM.
Yep, I'm having this problem too while playing Modern Combat 3.
I thought it was just me
I think many people had the problem and though it was the game they were playing, or just their device
Actually, it affects everyone using ICS on the Sensation
I wrote to some devs, not all of them answered, anf for the answers I had, they say we'll have to wait until HTC releases the kernel source.
So we have to choose:
1) going back to Gingerbread and have working multitouch, but lower GPU performances
2) keeping ICS but stop playing games that require 2 fingers
3) Buying a Samsung ( well, they never had touchscreen bugs like this, they do real drivers )
4) Going to AOSP, say goodbye to Sense.
That's pretty sad. I wonder how they beta-test ROMs and kernels at HTC, they already did it with the HD2 (Y coordonates auto-alignment), now they are doing it for the Sensation. HTC just sucks when it comes to drivers.
What is worse is that we can't even complain to HTC, or tell them there's a bug they should fix before releasing ICS ROMs, we're using a leak !
(if someone here is close enough to HTC, please tell them!)
What can be good, is that once ICS is out, I'll go back to S-ON and stock ICS to complain about my non-working multitouch so that they exchange my phone
if this problem dosen't exist in cm9 sensation roms so it dosen't kernel relaeted problem since they are using the same sense kernel
roytev said:
if this problem dosen't exist in cm9 sensation roms so it dosen't kernel relaeted problem since they are using the same sense kernel
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That's a very good point here!
Do they use the exact same kernel? The same SebastianFM is using to provide us o/c with ICS ?
If yes, we definitly need feedback from cm9 users, can they reproduce the bug or not??????????
The devs who answered my PMs tend to say it's kernel related, with cm9 users feedback, we'll know for sure if we have to wait for HTC to release the source, or if something can possibly be done (like using Gingerbread drivers? Can it be done??)
Bump.
Any news/PM's/etc?
Nothing new
I sent 5 PM, 2 devs answered, telling we have to wait for HTC to release sources.
And I guess I'll have to install CM9 on my device to see if it has the bug...or not!
I've noticed this for a while because although I dint play games I use the ics multi touch keyboard holding down numbers button to type numbers and you let go of the button and it goes back to letters and it doesn't work right any more.
First off, I just want to say Hi to everyone on the forums, this is my first post, but I've been lurking for quite a while, waiting for the right time to flash my phone –Should have done it sooner
Also, I want to thank everybody involved here, especially devs, for all of their hard work! -- I’m really not trying to suck up here… Just trying to portray sincere gratitude --
Anyway, I tried searching the forums here for related issues, as well as, the interwebs, but didn’t find anything relevant. So I apologize in advance if this is a known issue or a repost… Also, I tried posting this issue in the Gummy 1.01 release thread, but I’m a newbie so, I have to post it here:
This past weekend I finally got fed up with the buggy STOCK ROM for my SCH-i500 (Fascinate) and took the plunge and installed the latest Gummy build available for it (1.01). Everything is running very well so far, and I only have a few minor gripes, but all in all, it’s pretty awesome! Except for one big issue that I found…
If I try to add a photo widget to any of the launcher home screens, the screen goes black, and the bootup animation starts up, followed by a window that states “android.phone has stopped”. This is how I did it:
Menu>>Add>>Widgets>>Photo Gallery>>Choose an image>>[select an image]>>Crop.
This does not happen when I choose the other two options (“Choose an album” or “Shuffle all images”). I think this is either an issue with ICS 4.04, or Apex launcher. I think this because the same thing happens with my friends Galaxy Nexus; he is running Liquid ROM - not sure what version - based on ICS 4.04 with Apex launcher. It’s a completely different phone and he has a different kernel, which makes me assume it might be related to ICS 4.04 and/or Apex. … I’m not sure though because I’m not a dev…
Is anyone else having this issue?
*Update: Tried it again, and it completely crashed the phone this time. I had to pull the battery out to boot. Also, the phone started in “Safe Mode”. I just rebooted one more time, and everything seems fine again…
I'm having the same problem with my Verizon G NEX, Ive searched online and haven't found anything except for this post its a pretty strange bug if you ask me. anyone know of a fix ?
Just an update for anyone who comes across this thread... The issue has been resolved in the updated version Apex that just came out (v1.1.0).