The showcase taskmanager is recommended by many members on this forum. But I don't get it, although it is a very easy to use taskmanager, it can have an enormous delay after activating it via a hardware button or software button (sometimes it even doesn't show up in, say, half a minute or so). For me, that reduces the usability of this taskmanager almost to zero, because the very idea of a taskmanager is that you always have instant access to the running programs.
Now, I wonder if i've overlooked a particular setting, because really although I like the user-interface of this taskmanager, the unpredictability of the time it shows up is unacceptable to me.
I had the exact same problems including the delays and not coming on. I eventually lost patience and went to use Duttys one. You are not alone.
Did you try the beta version found in in the showcase thread? This speeds up the loading considerably and is much snappier overall.
Peteret said:
Did you try the beta version found in in the showcase thread? This speeds up the loading considerably and is much snappier overall.
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I will check it out, but does it still has an unpredictable delay sometimes?
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Just bought my Fuze on Monday, and so far I love it. Wish it was a little faster, but overall I really like it. One problem I'm having, however, is that when I have GPS turned on with GoogleMaps, I can't use the full keyboard. Normally the keyboard is fairly sluggish, but with the GPS searching for satellite, I hit the keys and nothing shows up for a good 30-45 seconds in other applications, like text messaging for example. Even with GPS turned off, I can't use the keyboard in GoogleMaps to search for directions or anything, I have to use the onscreen keyboard. I don't know if this is just a CPU performance problem, or if I have too much crap, or maybe just added bloat is slowing it down too much, but it is pretty annoying. I live in Maine and it take a good 5 minutes to get a GPS signal at my house (granted, I'm surrounded by trees, so that doesn't seem like a problem with the device, more just my location), but while I'm looking for a signal, I'd like to maybe use other applications, you know? I haven't flashed to any roms or anything, although I have applied quite a few tweaks and changed the touchFlo theme. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Note: This is my first Windows Mobile device, so I'm still pretty new at all of this, hence the reason I haven't flashed roms or anything like that.
Are others experiencing this or is it time for the dreaded hard reset and rebuilding? I have an ATT Fuze with a stock from and the black TF3D theme... various pokes and prods to the registry.
check the task manager's list of processes
mine slowed down after taking some video clips and watching them on tf3d
turns out, manila was using from 20 to 40% of cpu!
g2tl said:
check the task manager's list of processes
mine slowed down after taking some video clips and watching them on tf3d
turns out, manila was using from 20 to 40% of cpu!
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The list shows as empty, i.e. nothing running.
I too have experienced this from time to time. Using a combination of a more advanced task manager (dotFred or memmaid) along with MemMaids reclaim ram feature it is usually rectified. Sometimes simply restarting tf3d fixes it. (either ending task or turning it off in today settings)
To be honest though, this only seems to happen maybe once per day/ once every two days and can quickly be fized by a soft reset.
You can also try scaling back your file system and filter cache. (leave font) I have both mine set to 4mb and havent experienced a slowdown with this rom and settings yet. I used to have max cache on everything (elite rc2) yet I dont seem to need it.
It may have no effect and can possibly be attributed to my old rom setup getting overloaded. I'll post reports of any more slow downs.
RRE beta 3v2 on m1 radio.
-On the road from my Fuze-
-VGA is fantastic-
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I too have experienced this from time to time. Using a combination of a more advanced task manager (dotFred or memmaid) along with MemMaids reclaim ram feature it is usually rectified. Sometimes simply restarting tf3d fixes it. (either ending task or turning it off in today settings)
To be honest though, this only seems to happen maybe once per day/ once every two days and can quickly be fized by a soft reset.
You can also try scaling back your file system and filter cache. (leave font) I have both mine set to 4mb and havent experienced a slowdown with this rom and settings yet. I used to have max cache on everything (elite rc2) yet I dont seem to need it.
It may have no effect and can possibly be attributed to my old rom setup getting overloaded. I'll post reports of any more slow downs.
RRE beta 3v2 on m1 radio.
-On the road from my Fuze-
-VGA is fantastic-
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Thanks. I have the caches (glyph, filter, etc.) all pumped up in an effort to speed things up. Maybe I'm going the wrong way. I was demonstrating the Fuze to some co-workers at breakfast this morning and ran into a 20 second freeze. Same.
Does anyone know what the "Exclusive program list" is? I have googled it, but not found an answer. Jbed.exe appears on that list.
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Does anyone know what the "Exclusive program list" is?
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This is the part of the operating system that allows you to always keep a certain set of applications running even when you instruct windows to stop all programs.
behrouz said:
This is the part of the operating system that allows you to always keep a certain set of applications running even when you instruct windows to stop all programs.
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Thanks. I suspected as much. Does everyone have jbed.exe on that list? From what I gather, it has something to do with java?
I'm having an unusual graphics performance problem. This is different from all other complaints, as far as I can tell. Most raph graphics complaints center around consistent slower than expected performance. My problem is that non-3D graphics performance seems to decrease over time. Let me explain...
After my device has been on a while (sometimes a few hours, sometimes a few days), I will notice that when I click the start button to launch an app (yes I use the built-in start button lol), I can noticibly see the entries draw. If I go into an app that has heavy use of form controls (checkboxes, listboxes, textboxes, etc... all the built-in windows stuff), you can watch it draw all the elements on the screen. Scrolling just makes it worse.
However, 3D accelerated apps are just fine. For example, Manila draws as fast as ever. Even Opera draws fast.
CPU is not bogged down. Apps load quick, they just draw slow. If I open DotFred's task manager, I can confirm that the CPU is nearly idle and no application is bogging it down.
This problem seems to only affect GDI or win forms elements.
Does anybody have any clue what might cause this? Since I don't see anybody else complaining about this, I figure it must be something I did or installed, or something like that.
I'm using the Sprint stock ROM.
EDIT: Even if you don't know what's wrong, if you have any diagnostic suggestions, I would be grateful. I've tried terminating every running app and service that isn't system critical. I've tried different graphics tweaks suggested for WinMo. No luck. :-( Soft reset is all that fixes it. I may try a hard reset, but I'm just so satisified with the way my system is set up, I don't want to. Plus, "reformatting" is such a unsatisfying conclusion to a problem. I like to know why. LOL.
EDIT 2: I have reason to suspect it may be RSSHub's scheduled task to refresh feeds that may be the cause. I just disabled it. Will report later if this fixes it. I had almost 20 hours of no slow down and then as soon as i noticed it happening (painfully slow start menu redrawing), i saw RSS Hub had JUST started downloading a podcast. Let's see if this is the cause. *crossing fingers* I'm not 100% sure because I've killed RSSHub.exe before and the speed was still slow. So whatever causes the slowness doesn't stop until a soft reset, even if the process is killed (i'm guessing).
EDIT 3: It must have been coincidence because RSSHub hasn't run in over 24 hours, but I woke up this AM with a slow phone. Still investigating...
I know you said you'd rather not hard-reset, but still I suggest you to try a different rom (not a stock one). I use energyrom 2.0 on my raphael 100, which is unbranded. The rom is sort of 'made for' the fuze, but works fine on my tp. The only thing you have to figure out before you flash is how to fix the hadware keyboard, which is by default set to the fuze. I recall it's a simple registry change, but can't remember which one.
Good luck
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I know you said you'd rather not hard-reset, but still I suggest you to try a different rom (not a stock one). I use energyrom 2.0 on my raphael 100, which is unbranded. The rom is sort of 'made for' the fuze, but works fine on my tp. The only thing you have to figure out before you flash is how to fix the hadware keyboard, which is by default set to the fuze. I recall it's a simple registry change, but can't remember which one.
Good luck
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I prefer to use the stock rom. First, I really like Sprint Navigation and Sprint TV. Second, Sprint support immediately stops talking to you if you use a custom ROM (and I've had to exchange my TP three times for different unrelated reasons -- bad luck I guess or poor HTC manufacturing standards). Third, hard resetting is just not as satisfying as actually solving the problem. I'm just weird that way.
EDIT: After "EDIT 3" (above), I'm closer to hard resetting, but I'll likely stick to the stock ROM for the afforementioned reasons... Unless after hard resetting it starts happening again, that is.
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I know you said you'd rather not hard-reset, but still I suggest you to try a different rom (not a stock one). I use energyrom 2.0 on my raphael 100, which is unbranded. The rom is sort of 'made for' the fuze, but works fine on my tp. The only thing you have to figure out before you flash is how to fix the hadware keyboard, which is by default set to the fuze. I recall it's a simple registry change, but can't remember which one.
Good luck
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u can change the keyboard on keyboard selector under utilities... its on the first post of NRG .
I'm by no means a pro with this stuff but I wanted to share this for those of you having issues with your radio getting shut down after certain tasks getting closed with a task manager. Also peep, footprints and stocks constantly restarting.
I've tried a few of the task killers out there, even purchased Advanced Task Manger which is an awesome program, but regardless of exception lists with most of these programs occasionally my device would eventually force close an invisible process which made the browser unresponsive and cause other issues.
I picked up TaskPanel a couple of days ago and haven't had a single issue since. I'm chalking it up to some of the other task killers i've tried to closing some random process at some odd time (I'm not able to recreate it consistently).
TaskPanel fixed the problem I was having. It was annoying having to go into air plane mode or resetting the device to get it working again. Its been 2 days now without the issue coming back up so at a minimum it seems significantly reduced if not eliminated for me.
I also do not have peep, stocks and footprints auto loading after a close. If I open them they show up to be closed but once closed they do not automatically reopen. Display difference? Perhaps, but memory useage displayed says they are closed since if I open them it drops and returns back when closed.
My exclusion list:
Htc Sense
Htc Wagent
IQRD
OMADM
Thats it. No issues.
I too have tried all the task killer apps and have had the best luck with task pannel. I'll try adding these to my exception list and see how it goes. Thanks for the info.
Aridon said:
I'm by no means a pro with this stuff but I wanted to share this for those of you having issues with your radio getting shut down after certain tasks getting closed with a task manager. Also peep, footprints and stocks constantly restarting.
I've tried a few of the task killers out there, even purchased Advanced Task Manger which is an awesome program, but regardless of exception lists with most of these programs occasionally my device would eventually force close an invisible process which made the browser unresponsive and cause other issues.
I picked up TaskPanel a couple of days ago and haven't had a single issue since. I'm chalking it up to some of the other task killers i've tried to closing some random process at some odd time (I'm not able to recreate it consistently).
TaskPanel fixed the problem I was having. It was annoying having to go into air plane mode or resetting the device to get it working again. Its been 2 days now without the issue coming back up so at a minimum it seems significantly reduced if not eliminated for me.
I also do not have peep, stocks and footprints auto loading after a close. If I open them they show up to be closed but once closed they do not automatically reopen. Display difference? Perhaps, but memory useage displayed says they are closed since if I open them it drops and returns back when closed.
My exclusion list:
Htc Sense
Htc Wagent
IQRD
OMADM
Thats it. No issues.
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IQRD is the one that kills the radio. I've got it excluded on Advanced Task Killer, and have no problems like you were reporting either.
I do, however, like the auto-end feature with TaskPanel where you can set it to do it as frequently as every five minutes, or at a threshold of available RAM. Advanced Task Killer's minimum is 30 minutes, so I think I'm going to switch to TaskPanel for a while and see how it works. Good suggestion!
I have the solution, stop killing tasks.
Pretty simple.
notrock said:
I have the solution, stop killing tasks.
Pretty simple.
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It's not a solution when the solution has undesired results.
I don't like how sluggish the Hero feels like when it has 28MB of RAM free. I do, however, like it a lot better when it has 75MB free.
Others obviously feel this way too, so hence the need for a thread to discuss viable solutions.
Since you feel your solution works for you, this topic doesn't apply to your situation. I feel like you were trolling a little, so bye bye!
Thanks for this thread. I just tried TaskPanel X and I like it! Pretty powerful little app.
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Thanks for this thread. I just tried TaskPanel X and I like it! Pretty powerful little app.
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the best hands down....
I would post this in the Developer forum, in reply to a poster who has the same problem, but I just registered and therefore do not meet the requirements to post there.
I'm wondering if anyone else has observed this behavior. In short, I installed TriForceROM 3.0 (after performing a "Wipe User Data" operation in TWRP 2.6.0.0) and all was well for about 12 hours. During the ROM installation, I chose the "Standard" option, as I believe it's called. (I didn't elect to customize anything.)
After 12-18 hours of having the ROM installed, I noticed that my phone was simply powered-off. I hit the power button and nothing. Then I held-down the power button, which is how I normally power-on the device, and then realized that the device was, in fact, powered-off when I came back to it after a few hours of being in the other room.
After powering-on the device, the same thing happened a few hours later, and the issue seems to be occurring more and more frequently as time passes.
I have not changed any of the ROMs settings, and I haven't installed any type of third-party "tweaking" app.
Another individual has the same problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43942167&postcount=1466
Could this be due to kernel, power, or CPU settings? I noticed that when I opened KTweaker for the first time, the application warned me:
"Your KThermal values do not match current, Apply values?"
and
"Your vibration Strength does not match current, Apply Vibration Strength value?" (this one seems unrelated)
The CPU temperature seems to hover around 45 degrees Celsius. (Is this a normal range?)
Another observation is that when I long-press the Home button (to bring-up the app-switcher), I see a little Android icon with the title "MIPErrorActivi...". If I click on it, I'm simply dumped to the Home Screen. I don't know if this is at all related.
Thoughts or suggestions, anyone?
My phone is model SPH-L720.
Thanks in advance!
I went into KTweaker and clicked "Load Defaults" and rebooted, and everything seems to be stable. No reboots in 18 hours or so.
Also, the ROM author has mentioned this issue, as well as an interim fix (related to the KT kernel), and says that he will release v 3.1 within a few days, which should fix the issue entirely.
Good stuff!
UPDATE:
Well, the phone rebooted itself, eventually, so setting KTweaker settings to defaults was not the solution.
However, I downloaded the kernel update that the ROM author suggested ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2288309 ) and that does seem to have fixed the problem. No reboots in over two days. Yay!
An interesting aside is that with the new kernel and accompanying KTweaker app, the warnings that I was receiving with the old kernel when launching KTweaker disappeared. All is well!
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I went into KTweaker and clicked "Load Defaults" and rebooted, and everything seems to be stable. No reboots in 18 hours or so.
Also, the ROM author has mentioned this issue, as well as an interim fix (related to the KT kernel), and says that he will release v 3.1 within a few days, which should fix the issue entirely.
Good stuff!
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Well, the phone rebooted itself, eventually, so setting KTweaker settings to defaults was not the solution.
However, I downloaded the kernel update that the ROM author suggested ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2288309 ) and that does seem to have fixed the problem. No reboots in over two days. Yay!
An interesting aside is that with the new kernel and accompanying KTweaker app, the warnings that I was receiving with the old kernel when launching KTweaker disappeared. All is well!
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Thanks for noting this. I actually started my account for the same reason, but haven't had enough useful input to get the posts to leave feedback in the dev forums. I sure don't want to spam useless posts :angel:
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Thanks for noting this. I actually started my account for the same reason, but haven't had enough useful input to get the posts to leave feedback in the dev forums. I sure don't want to spam useless posts :angel:
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Haha. Well, glad I could be of help and that we both garner a couple of "useful posts" out of it.
I'm pretty sure that the reboots continued for me (although, less frequently with the kernel patch in place), but upgrading to TriForceROM 3.1 seems to have fixed the issue altogether. It's worth noting that I chose a different kernel this time (I forget what it's called; the name is four letters, all capitals). No reboots in the first 24 hours.
I doubt it makes a difference, but I also upgraded to the MF9 firmware from Samsung. Happy to answer any questions in that regard, too.
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Haha. Well, glad I could be of help and that we both garner a couple of "useful posts" out of it.
I'm pretty sure that the reboots continued for me (although, less frequently with the kernel patch in place), but upgrading to TriForceROM 3.1 seems to have fixed the issue altogether. It's worth noting that I chose a different kernel this time (I forget what it's called; the name is four letters, all capitals). No reboots in the first 24 hours.
I doubt it makes a difference, but I also upgraded to the MF9 firmware from Samsung. Happy to answer any questions in that regard, too.
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I would wager that you moved over to AGAT's. Several users reported lag with that kernel, so I stuck with KT.
After more reboots and a lot of tweaking, I've got my issue nailed down. Raising the voltages on the low end cpu frequencies (where a phone would normally be with screen off) has corrected the stability issues. I also had to up the voltages at the high side. That helped Antutu to run for a while, but now that's crashing back to desktop for me. When it does run, I usually hit around 25,000 with the Triforce 3.0 + Ktoons kernel with overclock enabled. I have not overclocked the GPU (yet). Running KTmod, but not crossbreeder.
I may back this all up tonight and reflash with Triforce 3.1. I've been fighting battery issues: Google Location Services and Android Widgets Pro seem to be behaving badly.
I feel like I'm very close to a fast, stable rom install with good battery life. Once I get there, I'll wait a couple months until the existing ROM's and kernels are polished a little more. And now I'm one post closer to being productive in the Dev forum.
That's the one; AGAT's kernel. I haven't noticed any sluggishness with the ROM's (and or kernel's) default settings. So, I'm happy!
No random power-downs or any other abnormal behavior since upgrading to 3.1 and switching to AGAT's three days ago.
I don't know if it was upgrading from 3.0 to 3.1 or switching kernels that fixed the random power-downs; I'm just glad I have a very fast and stable ROM at this point.
My battery life has been good. Moderate usage throughout an 8-10-hour work-day leaves me with about 70% battery when I get home.
My hat's off to the developer. I think I'll kick him a few bucks.