Hi all,
Is it possible to replace the stock sense ui apps with ones found on the G1? I've flashed over to the 2.0 ASOP and love the standard apps supplied, but am missing camera and sync updates (i know you can manually do this).
Am i the only one that finds the sense ui apps bloated and redundant?
thanks.
I like the Sense apps a lot better actually. Just 2¢. Other than that I can't help.
mcgrathx said:
Hi all,
Is it possible to replace the stock sense ui apps with ones found on the G1? I've flashed over to the 2.0 ASOP and love the standard apps supplied, but am missing camera and sync updates (i know you can manually do this).
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Well as of right now the Camera does not work on any of the 2.0, 2.0.1 or 2.1 builds due to the community not having the source for the CMDA Hero & therefore not having proper files to use the Camera.
I understand that. But it seems to me that pulling Moto Droid apps from it's 2.1 build would/should work in ours. No flames necessary... if i'm wrong, let me know.
mcgrathx said:
I understand that. But it seems to me that pulling Moto Droid apps from it's 2.1 build would/should work in ours. No flames necessary... if i'm wrong, let me know.
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Why would they? The hardware isn't the same.
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Why would they? The hardware isn't the same.
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True, but some apps, like Calendar, I wouldn't think would work differently based on different hardware. Meh, I don't know really... I supposed you are correct. I do know that the 2.0 AOSP rom in these forums are using stock apk's found on the G1.
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Why is no one porting MotoBlur and Pulse to the Sapphire MT3G? Why is everyone so stuck on Hero?
There HAVE been blur ports in the past. Do a little research before you make generalized statements. And Hero is more popular because it already came off an HTC device. It's easier to cook.
Please do just a little research before creating a new topic!
now the real question is why we dont see these for the 32a
Moto Blur & Pulse
Question, and maybe someone can direct me where to find it but whats the difference between Pulse, and Motoblur?
Polaris and Ronni... I did research before posting and found only one pulse rom and 3 motoblur roms compared to the hundreds of hero roms. My post was simple and just a question. Why? That was all. If I was a youngster with no forum know how, then your down talking would be understood. Thanks anyway.
zeroplace said:
Polaris and Ronni... I did research before posting and found only one pulse rom and 3 motoblur roms compared to the hundreds of hero roms. My post was simple and just a question. Why? That was all. If I was a youngster with no forum know how, then your down talking would be understood. Thanks anyway.
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Sorry but your post "Why is no one porting MotoBlur and Pulse to the Sapphire MT3G?" makes it seem like you didn't research at all. Like polaris0352 wrote is that Hero is easier to cook plus it's more popular. But i hope it won't be long before we start to see more non-htc roms for our magics!
I think part of the reason is that GPS and WiFi don't work, which means the uptake is a lot less. Once WiFi and GPS are working (which apparently won't happen until Dragon is available) then I'd bet more ports of these roms will start to appear. I like Blur and would make it my permanent rom if the wireless wasn't an issue.
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Sorry but your post "Why is no one porting MotoBlur and Pulse to the Sapphire MT3G?" makes it seem like you didn't research at all. Like polaris0352 wrote is that Hero is easier to cook plus it's more popular. But i hope it won't be long before we start to see more non-htc roms for our magics!
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because hero comes from an HTC phone wich would lead one to believe it would be much easier to run on our HTC phones...
motoblur was alright didnt like the feel and its hard to make moto and HTC play nice
Pulse....welll.... i think pulse sucked others like it though
I know there are at least 3 pulse roms that are decent and there are 2-3 blur roms that run enough to use
DopyG said:
now the real question is why we dont see these for the 32a
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I've created 32A porting packages for both Pulse and MotoBlur ROM some time ago.
TomasTrek said:
I think part of the reason is that GPS and WiFi don't work, which means the uptake is a lot less. Once WiFi and GPS are working (which apparently won't happen until Dragon is available) then I'd bet more ports of these roms will start to appear. I like Blur and would make it my permanent rom if the wireless wasn't an issue.
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Im running a Blur Rom that WiFi is working on but there were no instructions on partition setup, if any. It is real smooth but when I put my own wallpaper on, it seems to slow down a bit.
zeroplace said:
Im running a Blur Rom that WiFi is working on but there were no instructions on partition setup, if any. It is real smooth but when I put my own wallpaper on, it seems to slow down a bit.
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is it for 32a??
if yes provide me the link
thx
zeroplace said:
Im running a Blur Rom that WiFi is working on but there were no instructions on partition setup, if any. It is real smooth but when I put my own wallpaper on, it seems to slow down a bit.
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Can you Post a Link to the WiFi working Blur?
I've not seen any Blur with WiFi working at all due to the Kernel requirements.
I will have to find the link for you guys. The Rom is running on my MT3G 32B Rooted. Im going to assume that the WiFi works for that Im using WiFi Tether to connect to the internet with my laptop as I type. I will get a link after while. The file name is MotoCliq_v0.5.zip. I think Drizzy put it out. Not for certain though.
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I will have to find the link for you guys. The Rom is running on my MT3G 32B Rooted. Im going to assume that the WiFi works for that Im using WiFi Tether to connect to the internet with my laptop as I type. I will get a link after while. The file name is MotoCliq_v0.5.zip. I think Drizzy put it out. Not for certain though.
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32B here? http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=916
32A here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569329&page=5
parrot5 said:
32B here? http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=916
32A here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569329&page=5
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The reason for the lack of ports is honestly the firmware being so tied to social aspects. All the "cool" features are in the UI with the social stuff, but the rest of the firmware... well... sucks. I ported both and got bored in a couple days. Hero has new dumps and new versions of sense and the prospect of updating to 1.6 and eventually 2.0 These are done. One dump, one version, no projected future. Not much room to grow. Hero has all the features this does and then some, with the exception of universal inbox and the way launcher reacts. Pulse isnt really much of a ROM, either. Its just a cool UI and a bunch of paid apps put together into a firmware.
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The reason for the lack of ports is honestly the firmware being so tied to social aspects. All the "cool" features are in the UI with the social stuff, but the rest of the firmware... well... sucks. I ported both and got bored in a couple days. Hero has new dumps and new versions of sense and the prospect of updating to 1.6 and eventually 2.0 These are done. One dump, one version, no projected future. Not much room to grow. Hero has all the features this does and then some, with the exception of universal inbox and the way launcher reacts. Pulse isnt really much of a ROM, either. Its just a cool UI and a bunch of paid apps put together into a firmware.
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I hear ya. I just get tired of looking at the same bottom bar and out of all the times I try to ask for help, no one wants to share on how to get started making my own with my own look. I have seen a hero rom with a somewhat Pulse bottom bar and it looked killer but the slowness of the rom was not bareable.
I actually flashed the new Andriod 2.0 Eclair to my phone. It is a stripped down Rom and has nothing in it but MAN do I like the lock screen and menu play. Very nice, clean and cool. I wish I had Eclair with a MotoBlur look and feel and Hero internals. I do like Blur's social widgets. Nice!
I found that the Gallery3D loads photo extremely slow. Will anyone make a port of the HTCAlbum.apk for the nexus?
+1 to that.
I agree would the amazing to have
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The same, cooliris loads waaaay to slow.
I'd be cool with that.
HTC apps can't be ported they require the sense UI to be running.
I think you will find that you can't port htc widgets, htc album is not dependent on sense, its just an app. I think it can be ported, i think its possible.
JD
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well all i can tell you is that people have been trying to port the HTC apps since the very first hero system dump, and the only one EVER ported was the camera.
neok44 said:
well all i can tell you is that people have been trying to port the HTC apps since the very first hero system dump, and the only one EVER ported was the camera.
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Not true. stericson managed to port HTC Music back in the cupcake/donut days.
The point is, the photo album app is not reliant on sense. Widgets like friend steam are sense reliant. I think its technically possible.
JD
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The point is, the photo album app is not reliant on sense.
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How do you know? Have you ported it? Or did you read it somewhere?
people are arguing too early...people have already ported HTC apps to stock in the past, so it may be possible...why knock it until someone tries it?
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How do you know? Have you ported it? Or did you read it somewhere?
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Because flamer,
I have run a Desire phone with sense totally removed and run the gallery app
Jeez,
Some people need to learn some manners!
JD
AbsoluteDesignz said:
people are arguing too early...people have already ported HTC apps to stock in the past, so it may be possible...why knock it until someone tries it?
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Designz,
The guy is an obvious pleb, Flaming at the first oportunity, Its people like him we dont need on these forums, spoiling the productive atmosphere.....
I had a Desire previous to a Nexus One and Evil cooked up a barebone ROM with Sense/Rosie totally removed, and the gallery works completly independent of sense.
I will have a chat with evil, as he is the guy who has the quality to do this. Its also good that we have a 2.2 sense rom to play with, so the compatibility is there The app will most probably just have to be de-odexed....
I will look into it
JD
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Because flamer,
I have run a Desire phone with sense totally removed and run the gallery app
Jeez,
Some people need to learn some manners!
JD
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What rom are you running? If your running a Sense rom you will still have the required libs for the gallery to run. No matter if you removed the SenseUI launcher.
EDIT: Didn't see your last post. So you are still running a Sense rom. All you have done is remove the Rosie, all the libs are still on your phone. But please prove me wrong...
Libs can be ported no?
I remember Evil also transferring the 3D gallery to the Desire... I hope it can be done. Its beyond my ability, but to a coder it could be childs play
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What rom are you running? If your running a Sense rom you will still have the required libs for the gallery to run. No matter if you removed the SenseUI launcher.
EDIT: Didn't see your last post. So you are still running a Sense rom. All you have done is remove the Rosie, all the libs are still on your phone. But please prove me wrong...
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No im running MCR21....
But i had a desire and was running 2.1 sense on it
JD
Intersted in this as the cooliris gallery is annoying me.
Is the quality of pics better than the froyo gallery ?
Bumping this to see if there was any progress or answer ?
Bumping this, would be awesome to have HTC Album.
No longer doing this here. This is to be deleted by moderator, i would suggest an administrator making a post on the front page about forum etiquette.
sabianadmin said:
Hey all, im thinking of putting together a sense rom (minus the bloat obv) based on CM5, has this already been done? is there any problems you guys can see with doing it?
thanks for the advice
All the best
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-Wrong section
-There are plenty of Sense-like Themes for cm5. Add Facebook, Twitter, Some Sense clock widget, Skinned ADW.Launcher/Launcher pro, et voilà.
-Again: Wrong section
It's very hard, if not impossible, to implent the Sense apps into AOSP ROMs.
Its not the wrong section im trying to gauge if i should bother developing a custom android rom. And that didn't really answer my question. Is it possible to bring sense and all it required apks and libraries over to CM5, if this is the wrong section could a moderator move me to the right one
Ok i assumed as much, but it could be done with a lot of work right? i think everyone would agree that it would finally make sense usable on the Dream / MT3G. Overclock to 687mhz kernel bit of comcache bit of JIT, dithering, zipaligning and stipping away of some of the crap that is included in sense roms and you're away!
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Ok i assumed as much, but it could be done with a lot of work right? i think everyone would agree that it would finally make sense usable on the Dream / MT3G. Overclock to 687mhz kernel bit of comcache bit of JIT, dithering, zipaligning and stipping away of some of the crap that is included in sense roms and you're away!
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It takes waaay too much work, believe me.
Ok well i wouldnt mind the challenge, i feel kind of useless as iv been a software developer for a few years and im only now learning to build roms lol would any one be interested in giving me a hand to build this?
EDIT: What do we think of Sensation as a name for the rom?
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Ok well i wouldnt mind the challenge, i feel kind of useless as iv been a software developer for a few years and im only now learning to build roms lol would any one be interested in giving me a hand to build this?
EDIT: What do we think of Sensation as a name for the rom?
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Great Idea! how about GSense
You will need to know how to read/understand & write smali code..
maxisma said:
You will need to know how to read/understand & write smali code..
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Like i said im in software development so it should be to bad im also a good bash scripter i just need to get my head around all of the tools that cooks use to build roms.
So ok features what would be wanted in a this new GSense rom (im using that name and my tagline will be "that tingly sensation" ;-) )
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Like i said im in software development so it should be to bad im also a good bash scripter i just need to get my head around all of the tools that cooks use to build roms.
So ok features what would be wanted in a this new GSense rom (im using that name and my tagline will be "that tingly sensation" ;-) )
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How about some of the sense ui features like in settings etc.. if thats possible. that will be
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You will need to know how to read/understand & write smali code..
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How about some of the sense ui features like in settings etc.. if thats possible. that will be
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Well it will be using the sense apks for the most part, does sense have a custom settings menu?
Since CM 5 series is android 2.1, make an Sense 2.1 ROM. I would recommend using the Droid Eris 2.1 dump since I am running KingKlick's DroidEris2G1 and that thing is the fastest, smoothest Sense 2.1 build that I have run.
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Since CM 5 series is android 2.1, make an Sense 2.1 ROM. I would recommend using the Droid Eris 2.1 dump since I am running KingKlick's DroidEris2G1 and that thing is the fastest, smoothest Sense 2.1 build that I have run.
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Im using bits of the android 2.1 update for the european HTC Hero but if i get good reason i will be using bits of other roms (e.g droid eris which is a hero effectively)
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Well it will be using the sense apks for the most part, does sense have a custom settings menu?
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Im referring to the Icons in Settings.
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Im referring to the Icons in Settings.
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Oh right! yep that will be there
I have always liked sense, but have never liked how 'sluggish' it runs in comparison to other android roms since it comes with some extra baggage i.e. Rosie. But if you can make this happen, I'll be quite excited and will probably try it out..so...all the best!
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Oh right! yep that will be there
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Bookmarking this thread for sure
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Since CM 5 series is android 2.1, make an Sense 2.1 ROM. I would recommend using the Droid Eris 2.1 dump since I am running KingKlick's DroidEris2G1 and that thing is the fastest, smoothest Sense 2.1 build that I have run.
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Does Camera work on KingKlick's DroidEris2G1?
allow me to comment: if you take cm5 and replace the apk's and frameworks, you will run into several problems:
1. it'll be too big for g1, without using mtd mods...
2. you'll essentially end up pushing everything from a sense rom into different folders (bin, lib, etc) in order to even get stuff working
3. it'll basically turn into a sense rom with a cm kernel... which already exists. LOL
4. you'll have to learn smali, which is confusing as you-know-what
HAVE FUN!!!
I noticed that HTC posted source code of Froyo 2.6.32 kernel for HTC Wildfire. Will it be possible to make some changes to it and make a port for 32A HTC Magic? Specs of both phones are very similar. If somebody can do it, this should make perfect Android 2.2 with Sense ROM or plain 2.2 ROM for Magic that will work with a new 6.35 radio.
I would really appreciate input of experienced Android XDA hackers on this. Thank you in advance.
if you search you will see i have started a port but no one is trying to help, and you have to resize everything due different resolutions
Can be used instead of images in the Magic do not have to resize. ?
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resize Blurred image.
we have to take the images used in wildfire, find them in the desire files and rezies those down wildfire and desire have android 2.2 sense so they both have same images, but you cannot size up form widlfire, you have to size down from desire and put in the wildfire files
Yes, I see. thx man
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may i help you ?...
i have been meaning to do that but been busy doing kernels but if you do please upload it somewhere so we can improve the port i started
Is it possible to port wildfire 2.2 rom to Magic even without sense? Would it work better then the ones based on AOSP or CM?
capychimp said:
if you search you will see i have started a port but no one is trying to help, and you have to resize everything due different resolutions
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Hi capychimp, is it this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801435.
Is it better/faster to change/port the mytouch 1.2 32B? I heard it got 2.2 OTA
no one got a link for that update so it is not here yet
I'm thinking a hybrid of the two might be nice. KaosLegendary for the Eris was straight copied over without reszing and many expressed that they liked the smaller sized menus and less obtrusive launcher. I'd be all for fixing the stuff that needs to be fixed like the keyboard from the WF being shrunk and port over the Legend version and keep the small other stuff.
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Is it possible to port wildfire 2.2 rom to Magic even without sense? Would it work better then the ones based on AOSP or CM?
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No, because they've still got the HTC framework built in, so what you're getting is AOSP + a ton of crap from HTC, rather than *just* AOSP. I think you can imagine which would work better.
Stonent said:
I'm thinking a hybrid of the two might be nice. KaosLegendary for the Eris was straight copied over without reszing and many expressed that they liked the smaller sized menus and less obtrusive launcher. I'd be all for fixing the stuff that needs to be fixed like the keyboard from the WF being shrunk and port over the Legend version and keep the small other stuff.
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If you want smaller menus and text, use LCD changer. Each to their own, but the launcher looks borked. I think calling it less obtrusive is just like calling a bug, a feature
resizing problems solved
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841811
yeah but a huge porting issue comes along with it it is not easy this time
hey Capy
I can help you too, but I think many people would really like to try a version even without Sense. I personally could not care less for Sense...I'm running LauncherPro on Bludy's Senseless ROM.
Just remove rosie.apk when its done.
IMO the focus should be on getting it to run rather than stripping down sense.
so true eyegor
I'm really going to check back here alot and see how you all get along with this.
If i were more skilled with things like this i would offer my help right away.
While our devs are working hard to a port a honeycomb rom , did anyone get a chance to port any tablet optimized apps to use the big screen. I am excited as the Adam mail'd and sniffer app are pretty good and some xoom app ports will be amazing
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No, (most of) the new apps use frameworks that only exist in Android 3.0 (Fragments, new animation APIs, etc), and therefore will not work without a ROM based on 3.0
Most of the apps .apk's have been available for a few weeks, but are of little use without 3.0
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Sorry, looks like no luck. Read this from a lot of different people smarter than I.
Ohh thats bad. Anyway its only a matter of time till we get a 3.0 rom so its not a heartbreak