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Why is no one porting MotoBlur and Pulse to the Sapphire MT3G? Why is everyone so stuck on Hero?
There HAVE been blur ports in the past. Do a little research before you make generalized statements. And Hero is more popular because it already came off an HTC device. It's easier to cook.
Please do just a little research before creating a new topic!
now the real question is why we dont see these for the 32a
Moto Blur & Pulse
Question, and maybe someone can direct me where to find it but whats the difference between Pulse, and Motoblur?
Polaris and Ronni... I did research before posting and found only one pulse rom and 3 motoblur roms compared to the hundreds of hero roms. My post was simple and just a question. Why? That was all. If I was a youngster with no forum know how, then your down talking would be understood. Thanks anyway.
zeroplace said:
Polaris and Ronni... I did research before posting and found only one pulse rom and 3 motoblur roms compared to the hundreds of hero roms. My post was simple and just a question. Why? That was all. If I was a youngster with no forum know how, then your down talking would be understood. Thanks anyway.
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Sorry but your post "Why is no one porting MotoBlur and Pulse to the Sapphire MT3G?" makes it seem like you didn't research at all. Like polaris0352 wrote is that Hero is easier to cook plus it's more popular. But i hope it won't be long before we start to see more non-htc roms for our magics!
I think part of the reason is that GPS and WiFi don't work, which means the uptake is a lot less. Once WiFi and GPS are working (which apparently won't happen until Dragon is available) then I'd bet more ports of these roms will start to appear. I like Blur and would make it my permanent rom if the wireless wasn't an issue.
ronni.rasmussen said:
Sorry but your post "Why is no one porting MotoBlur and Pulse to the Sapphire MT3G?" makes it seem like you didn't research at all. Like polaris0352 wrote is that Hero is easier to cook plus it's more popular. But i hope it won't be long before we start to see more non-htc roms for our magics!
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because hero comes from an HTC phone wich would lead one to believe it would be much easier to run on our HTC phones...
motoblur was alright didnt like the feel and its hard to make moto and HTC play nice
Pulse....welll.... i think pulse sucked others like it though
I know there are at least 3 pulse roms that are decent and there are 2-3 blur roms that run enough to use
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now the real question is why we dont see these for the 32a
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I've created 32A porting packages for both Pulse and MotoBlur ROM some time ago.
TomasTrek said:
I think part of the reason is that GPS and WiFi don't work, which means the uptake is a lot less. Once WiFi and GPS are working (which apparently won't happen until Dragon is available) then I'd bet more ports of these roms will start to appear. I like Blur and would make it my permanent rom if the wireless wasn't an issue.
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Im running a Blur Rom that WiFi is working on but there were no instructions on partition setup, if any. It is real smooth but when I put my own wallpaper on, it seems to slow down a bit.
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Im running a Blur Rom that WiFi is working on but there were no instructions on partition setup, if any. It is real smooth but when I put my own wallpaper on, it seems to slow down a bit.
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is it for 32a??
if yes provide me the link
thx
zeroplace said:
Im running a Blur Rom that WiFi is working on but there were no instructions on partition setup, if any. It is real smooth but when I put my own wallpaper on, it seems to slow down a bit.
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Can you Post a Link to the WiFi working Blur?
I've not seen any Blur with WiFi working at all due to the Kernel requirements.
I will have to find the link for you guys. The Rom is running on my MT3G 32B Rooted. Im going to assume that the WiFi works for that Im using WiFi Tether to connect to the internet with my laptop as I type. I will get a link after while. The file name is MotoCliq_v0.5.zip. I think Drizzy put it out. Not for certain though.
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I will have to find the link for you guys. The Rom is running on my MT3G 32B Rooted. Im going to assume that the WiFi works for that Im using WiFi Tether to connect to the internet with my laptop as I type. I will get a link after while. The file name is MotoCliq_v0.5.zip. I think Drizzy put it out. Not for certain though.
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32B here? http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=916
32A here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569329&page=5
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32B here? http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=916
32A here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569329&page=5
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The reason for the lack of ports is honestly the firmware being so tied to social aspects. All the "cool" features are in the UI with the social stuff, but the rest of the firmware... well... sucks. I ported both and got bored in a couple days. Hero has new dumps and new versions of sense and the prospect of updating to 1.6 and eventually 2.0 These are done. One dump, one version, no projected future. Not much room to grow. Hero has all the features this does and then some, with the exception of universal inbox and the way launcher reacts. Pulse isnt really much of a ROM, either. Its just a cool UI and a bunch of paid apps put together into a firmware.
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The reason for the lack of ports is honestly the firmware being so tied to social aspects. All the "cool" features are in the UI with the social stuff, but the rest of the firmware... well... sucks. I ported both and got bored in a couple days. Hero has new dumps and new versions of sense and the prospect of updating to 1.6 and eventually 2.0 These are done. One dump, one version, no projected future. Not much room to grow. Hero has all the features this does and then some, with the exception of universal inbox and the way launcher reacts. Pulse isnt really much of a ROM, either. Its just a cool UI and a bunch of paid apps put together into a firmware.
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I hear ya. I just get tired of looking at the same bottom bar and out of all the times I try to ask for help, no one wants to share on how to get started making my own with my own look. I have seen a hero rom with a somewhat Pulse bottom bar and it looked killer but the slowness of the rom was not bareable.
I actually flashed the new Andriod 2.0 Eclair to my phone. It is a stripped down Rom and has nothing in it but MAN do I like the lock screen and menu play. Very nice, clean and cool. I wish I had Eclair with a MotoBlur look and feel and Hero internals. I do like Blur's social widgets. Nice!
No longer doing this here. This is to be deleted by moderator, i would suggest an administrator making a post on the front page about forum etiquette.
sabianadmin said:
Hey all, im thinking of putting together a sense rom (minus the bloat obv) based on CM5, has this already been done? is there any problems you guys can see with doing it?
thanks for the advice
All the best
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-Wrong section
-There are plenty of Sense-like Themes for cm5. Add Facebook, Twitter, Some Sense clock widget, Skinned ADW.Launcher/Launcher pro, et voilà.
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It's very hard, if not impossible, to implent the Sense apps into AOSP ROMs.
Its not the wrong section im trying to gauge if i should bother developing a custom android rom. And that didn't really answer my question. Is it possible to bring sense and all it required apks and libraries over to CM5, if this is the wrong section could a moderator move me to the right one
Ok i assumed as much, but it could be done with a lot of work right? i think everyone would agree that it would finally make sense usable on the Dream / MT3G. Overclock to 687mhz kernel bit of comcache bit of JIT, dithering, zipaligning and stipping away of some of the crap that is included in sense roms and you're away!
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Ok i assumed as much, but it could be done with a lot of work right? i think everyone would agree that it would finally make sense usable on the Dream / MT3G. Overclock to 687mhz kernel bit of comcache bit of JIT, dithering, zipaligning and stipping away of some of the crap that is included in sense roms and you're away!
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It takes waaay too much work, believe me.
Ok well i wouldnt mind the challenge, i feel kind of useless as iv been a software developer for a few years and im only now learning to build roms lol would any one be interested in giving me a hand to build this?
EDIT: What do we think of Sensation as a name for the rom?
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Ok well i wouldnt mind the challenge, i feel kind of useless as iv been a software developer for a few years and im only now learning to build roms lol would any one be interested in giving me a hand to build this?
EDIT: What do we think of Sensation as a name for the rom?
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Great Idea! how about GSense
You will need to know how to read/understand & write smali code..
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You will need to know how to read/understand & write smali code..
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Like i said im in software development so it should be to bad im also a good bash scripter i just need to get my head around all of the tools that cooks use to build roms.
So ok features what would be wanted in a this new GSense rom (im using that name and my tagline will be "that tingly sensation" ;-) )
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Like i said im in software development so it should be to bad im also a good bash scripter i just need to get my head around all of the tools that cooks use to build roms.
So ok features what would be wanted in a this new GSense rom (im using that name and my tagline will be "that tingly sensation" ;-) )
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How about some of the sense ui features like in settings etc.. if thats possible. that will be
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How about some of the sense ui features like in settings etc.. if thats possible. that will be
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Well it will be using the sense apks for the most part, does sense have a custom settings menu?
Since CM 5 series is android 2.1, make an Sense 2.1 ROM. I would recommend using the Droid Eris 2.1 dump since I am running KingKlick's DroidEris2G1 and that thing is the fastest, smoothest Sense 2.1 build that I have run.
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Since CM 5 series is android 2.1, make an Sense 2.1 ROM. I would recommend using the Droid Eris 2.1 dump since I am running KingKlick's DroidEris2G1 and that thing is the fastest, smoothest Sense 2.1 build that I have run.
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Im using bits of the android 2.1 update for the european HTC Hero but if i get good reason i will be using bits of other roms (e.g droid eris which is a hero effectively)
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Well it will be using the sense apks for the most part, does sense have a custom settings menu?
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Im referring to the Icons in Settings.
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Im referring to the Icons in Settings.
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Oh right! yep that will be there
I have always liked sense, but have never liked how 'sluggish' it runs in comparison to other android roms since it comes with some extra baggage i.e. Rosie. But if you can make this happen, I'll be quite excited and will probably try it out..so...all the best!
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Oh right! yep that will be there
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Since CM 5 series is android 2.1, make an Sense 2.1 ROM. I would recommend using the Droid Eris 2.1 dump since I am running KingKlick's DroidEris2G1 and that thing is the fastest, smoothest Sense 2.1 build that I have run.
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Does Camera work on KingKlick's DroidEris2G1?
allow me to comment: if you take cm5 and replace the apk's and frameworks, you will run into several problems:
1. it'll be too big for g1, without using mtd mods...
2. you'll essentially end up pushing everything from a sense rom into different folders (bin, lib, etc) in order to even get stuff working
3. it'll basically turn into a sense rom with a cm kernel... which already exists. LOL
4. you'll have to learn smali, which is confusing as you-know-what
HAVE FUN!!!
Before you say that I shouldn't whine for things and that I should try something myself before I beg for something, I have something to say. I've been going a whole week at this trying to somehow port this beautiful MIUI rom to the Aria. I have tried theme porter by taking a translated MIUI rom for another android device and I tried to use attn1's CM 6 rom and try to swap things here and there to make an aesthetically pleasing rom, but when I tried to flash, no luck. Nothing happened. Yet, I saw someone else do this for G1, but I am a novice, not like I know a lot about porting. I know a big problem is that MIUI is for HDPI devices, and I tried to convert but was met with meager success. Now, my request is that maybe someone like attn1 or another android rom expert port MIUI to the Aria. Like I said, I attempted my best but was met with little success. The best I could do was create a pseudo MIUI launcher system, still need to work on the dock.
Here is how my Aria is set up right now (launcher only)
i56(dot)tinypic(dot)com/2uib12c(dot)png (darn picture restriction)
I also have the iphone lock screen and keyboard, lets face it, iOS is more aesthetically pleasing while android is all about the user and customization. This is the very reason I want MIUI, a great bridge taking the best of both worlds.
MIUI would be fun to mess around with. However, the Aria does not have a huge set of developer support. And I don't think that Attn1 is willing to devote the effort required to port MIUI to our phone.
I've been trying to do the same. Except I have an incredible too, that has miui on it, that I've been trying to port it from.
The only problem is the framework and mdpi issues. Its gonna take some time to get this successfully running.
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i personally only want miui for the toolbar, many home screens, and some of the built in apps. I do not howerver want the app icons and iosy look.
btx here are some devs working on putting this on another mdpi device... the hero, our good old htc cousin...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858935
The g1 has the same screen size and resolution as the aria so perhaps try working your port from the g1 rom instead?
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The g1 has the same screen size and resolution as the aria so perhaps try working your port from the g1 rom instead?
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G1 has no miui rom. They have a WIP going on though... see here for details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794871&highlight=miui
So r u saying that we fan flash g1 roms?
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No you can't flash g1 roms because the hardware is entirely different, but the screen size and resolution is the same between them so as far as porting a rom goes, its a better place to start than a rom for something like an evo.
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O ok
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So..
I'm guessing it either can't be done or the task is way too tedious for a ROM that pretty much might be overshadowed by CM 7 (2.3 if we get that)
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I'm guessing it either can't be done or the task is way too tedious for a ROM that pretty much might be overshadowed by CM 7 (2.3 if we get that)
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Oh don't worry. We are
Can I ask for an HTC Sense 2.1 rom? I really find the Sense 3.0 rosie a hassle and the carousel, though pretty cool, gets annoying when I need to quickly scroll to a certain homescreen. Also I prefer the smooth basic screen transitions of Sense 2.1 as opposed to the 3D effect transition on Sense 3.0 roms.
Actually, IMO, the best rom would be an HTC Sense 2.1 with Sense 3.0 features (lockscreen mainly) fusion. Can anyone make it happen? (aka Undeadk9)
FOR A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT I'M SAYING, here's a Tmobile G2/HTC Desire Z running an HTC 2.1 base+3.0 rom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ-kNW-nGFA
Ummm no. Sense 3.0 is so much better. No dev would do that. It's not something a large group of people would use.
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Ummm no. Sense 3.0 is so much better. No dev would do that. It's not something a large group of people would use.
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You're right but I just want to make sure: Is it possible to downgrade our MT4GS's Sense 3.0 to Sense 2.1? If so, how? (I'd like to design a custom rom myself )
You would need to find a phone compatible with our device. I'm thinking the MT4G or Desire HD and port it to Doubleshot.
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From my developmental tests from Sense 2.1- Sense 3.0 on the HTC HD2 and Desire HD,
I realized that it's possible to port the Sense 3.0 rosie to a Sense 2.1 rom. I'm wondering if it's possible to port the Sense 2.1 rosie to our MT4GS's Sense 3.0?
Sense 2.1 sucks compared to 3.0 use undead sensless rom u wont be dissapointent
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I could probably do that, but I only make ROMS I intend on using, I'm pretty busy with school and work, but If I have a free weekend I might give it a try. However I don't think it would be worth it, a lot of features would be cut, since I wouldn't spend time optimizing it for the MT4GS, just the basic 2.1 ROM.
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I could probably do that, but I only make ROMS I intend on using, I'm pretty busy with school and work, but If I have a free weekend I might give it a try. However I don't think it would be worth it, a lot of features would be cut, since I wouldn't spend time optimizing it for the MT4GS, just the basic 2.1 ROM.
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Thanks dude, I appreciate it alot man. And I know what you mean about busy. 5 AP classes + a job leaves very little free time, let alone the fact that you have other stuff to do. But if you could get the basic Sense 2.1 rosie and perhaps provide me tips on how to implement the widgets (especially the clock widget, it's basically the trademark of Sense haha), that would be all I'd need.
Also, couldn't you literally just replace the Rosie from a MyTouch4g/DesireHD sense 2.1 rom, as well as the other htc widgets as Seo did to bring a Sense 3.0 port to Sense 2.1 roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062962
The reason I want this is simply because I hate the carousel of Sense 3.0 (it still lags occasionally), but love the widgets.
I simply don't like the features of LPP or ADW because, in those launchers I can't use Sense widgets...
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Thanks dude, I appreciate it alot man. And I know what you mean about busy. 5 AP classes + a job leaves very little free time, let alone the fact that you have other stuff to do. But if you could get the basic Sense 2.1 rosie and perhaps provide me tips on how to implement the widgets (especially the clock widget, it's basically the trademark of Sense haha), that would be all I'd need.
Also, couldn't you literally just replace the Rosie from a MyTouch4g/DesireHD sense 2.1 rom, as well as the other htc widgets as Seo did to bring a Sense 3.0 port to Sense 2.1 roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062962
The reason I want this is simply because I hate the carousel of Sense 3.0 (it still lags occasionally), but love the widgets.
I simply don't like the features of LPP or ADW because, in those launchers I can't use Sense widgets...
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The carousel lags? Apparently you never flashed my sense on crack rom. I never got any lag at all.
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The carousel lags? Apparently you never flashed my sense on crack rom. I never got any lag at all.
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You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
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You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
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KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
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KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
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Yea, but there's so many devs for the Sensation, I wish our MT4GS had more...
Oh and btw, those devs just ported over the HTC Amaze 4G's (aka MT4GS's) camera to their Sensations. WOOW is all I can say.
Plus, with the second coming of smartphones in the HTC Amaze and SGSII, there'll be even less reason for future devs to work on this phone.
Gotta admit though that I like the hardware keyboard as an additional option for typing. It may be crappy compared to the G2, but I've never used a slider-phone before.
And, I hate the designs of the Amaze and GSII, they're even more curvy than the MT4GS and Sensation, lol.
Sorry...to get back on topic, Undeadk9, would it be much simpler to port the Sense 2.1 rosie over onto a Sense 3.0 rom? Rather than modding an entire rom? And is it as easy as I think it is?
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KEEP IT. The Sensation is a piece of crap, I worked for T-Mobile and we have returns on them more than anything. They overheat, the touchscreen is highly unresponsive, and the screens look mediocre... Even after installing custom ROMs they still have issues.
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I agree. Keep the phone. Plus this cpu is meant to clock at 1.5ghz. The sensations is right where its suppose to be. Plus this device has a way better processor. And the keyboard is a huge plus.
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In another phone, you can just trick Rosie into thinking it's running on a Sense 2.1 device and it will run in 2.1 mode. However, I don't think it's possible with the native MT4GS Rosie since it's specifically compiled for us/TMO. I could be wrong though, worth decompiling it and taking a look at it.
I wouldn't run Sense 2.1 though. That's boring.
Or maybe you could exchange it for a desire hd or mytouch 4g since you're looking for older software. there's not going to be a whole lot of demand for older software on a newer device unfortunately.
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Or maybe you could exchange it for a desire hd or mytouch 4g since you're looking for older software. there's not going to be a whole lot of demand for older software on a newer device unfortunately.
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That's exactly what I don't want, as you can see the MT4GS is SUPERIOR to those devices. But I really prefer the simplicity of the old sense, and combined with a 1.2 GHz dual-core processor, it would be 1000000x faster + no lag. Why would I want to go back to the "Stone Age" so to speak?
Really and truly it's the carousel that bothers me, if I didn't have to deal with the carousel on Sense 3, it would be just fine.
And let's just put it this way: Sense 2.1 is exactly what Sense 3.0 is WITHOUT the carousel. So for those of you who don't prefer the carousel, this is what you want. Of course there's the lockscreen, but I'm talking purely on the basis of the rosies.
Sorry for the double post, my previous one was loaded.
I'll just say that Ima try and put one together myself.
I also posted a video on what I mean by Sense 2.1+3.0. (Check first post)
I also posted a poll to gather the opinion of users in this forum.
If there are too many No's, then I will stop this thread from further discussion.
So you just want the sense 2.1 interface but with sense 3.0 basically. Why don't you try a new launcher?
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You're right I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot sometime later. Too lazy to s-off and sort it out. I just hate the 3d flip animation, I like the smooth screen transitions that were on the older Sense rosies.
I'm still contemplating whether I want this phone or return and exchange for a Sensation. Of course either way, it's Sense 3.0 carousel.
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"Too lazy to s-off and sort it out..."
But you're willing to "...design a custom rom myself"?
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"Too lazy to s-off and sort it out..."
But you're willing to "...design a custom rom myself"?
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All of this nonsense because you dislike the 3.0 carousel? Im sorry but you have lost your mind. And your to lazy to s off? Its a 5 min process Thats completely automated and pain free. But yet you want to design a rom which could take days maybe weeks? All Im seeing is a huge lack of common sense.
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This thread is in Development because I mean to share a development idea that I had with the devs here. I don't have the knowledge or skill to work this out myself, so I'm hoping to start a discussion among devs who can do something with it.
Right. At the moment, Sense 2.1/3.0 hybrid ROMs are all using the Sense 3.0 lockscreen - but it's still an old version of that lockscreen, ported in the early days of the HTC Sensation (by seo if I'm correct). Resizing for the lower resolution on the Desire was necessary, and you can see that clearly on the lockscreen - icons and text appear slightly "squashed", and performance is slightly choppy as well.
However, on full Sense 3.5 ROMs ported from the HTC Runnymede, the lockscreen is graphically flawless, and it's lagfree as well, probably largely due to the fact that no resizing is involved. It's just a much better lockscreen than the Sense 3.0 one found in Sense 2.1/3.0 hybrids.
My question/idea is: could this properly sized Sense 3.5 lockscreen be ported from Bliss or Runnymede ROMs to work in Sense 2.1 ROMs?
I'm hoping for this to be a place for devs to discuss and hopefully work out this idea. Mods, if you still think this is in the wrong place, feel free to move.
Thanks in advance!
Question is whose ROM for Base?
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rzgomba said:
Question is whose ROM for Base?
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I suggest Rsk or Seb's ROM
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Both of which are based on Runnymede RUUs. Keep in mind that the question is to port the lockscreen from Sense 3.5, not from a single specific Sense 3.5 ROM - so the base will come from HTC, not from any custom ROM developer here.
In other words, this question is pretty much irrelevant.
Bump. I'm hoping at least one of the few developers still left here could look into this.
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Bump. I'm hoping at least one of the few developers still left here could look into this.
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Might have a go if you want. Something different. Not for a couple of days though. Sense isn't my thing but smali /apktool is. I'll pm when I can.
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Might have a go if you want. Something different. Not for a couple of days though. Sense isn't my thing but smali /apktool is. I'll pm when I can.
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Many thanks, man! Looking forward to it.
I was hoping we could do most of our communication in this thread, though. That way, other devs could chip in wherever help may be needed. And that could be welcome, if Sense really isn't your thing
Hoping to see as much dev input as possible here, and it seems we're off to a great start. Thanks again!
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Many thanks, man! Looking forward to it.
I was hoping we could do most of our communication in this thread, though. That way, other devs could chip in wherever help may be needed. And that could be welcome, if Sense really isn't your thing
Hoping to see as much dev input as possible here, and it seems we're off to a great start. Thanks again!
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Ok no probs. I have enough pms for porting and mods, a thread would be a good change
No promises, but ill do my best to have it done this weekend. It's not that I'm anti-sense, but I've always been on my miui builds (for at least 8 of the 11 months I've owned an android phone). Fingers crossed .
Which 2.1+3.0 Rom do you use at the moment? I already have a few 3.5 zips so can get the lockscreen easy enough, just need to know which Rom to use when doing the porting /testing? (and so I can see what you mean about the visual problems.)
Still won't know how big a task it is until I look tomorrow.
His signature says he is using the Alex-V's ROM.
I haven't tried Alex-V 1.8 ROM yet, but i use InsertCoin for years now. I'd love to see it in InsertCoin 1.1.4 as well. I'll stay tuned.
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Which 2.1+3.0 Rom do you use at the moment? I already have a few 3.5 zips so can get the lockscreen easy enough, just need to know which Rom to use when doing the porting /testing? (and so I can see what you mean about the visual problems.)
Still won't know how big a task it is until I look tomorrow.
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I'm on Alex-V 1.8 for cm7r2 now, the link is in my sig. I don't think there's much of a difference with other 2.1/3.0 ROMs (like InsertCoin), if any difference at all - as far as the lockscreen goes, that is. They all use different implementations of a2sd (standard, data++, ad2sdx, even int2sd), which probably needs looking into.
And take your time. It's already immensely appreciated that you're willing to look into it in the first place.
This looks like a very interesting project. To be honest though, I don't think a hacked up version of the ring lockscreen will go any faster on sense 2.1 roms.
If you check out any pure Sense 3 port you will see that the lockscreen is way smoother than any 2.1/3.0 hybrid or even a 3.5 rom, even with all the resizing.
In my opinion it all comes down to framework changes between sense versions.
But anyway, I guess a good starting point would be a smali by smali compare between an original sense3 htclockscreen.apk and one from the hybrid roms to roughly see what needs changing. Then you could try to apply the same modifications in the 3.5 lockscreen apk.
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This looks like a very interesting project. To be honest though, I don't think a hacked up version of the ring lockscreen will go any faster on sense 2.1 roms.
If you check out any pure Sense 3 port you will see that the lockscreen is way smoother than any 2.1/3.0 hybrid or even a 3.5 rom, even with all the resizing.
In my opinion it all comes down to framework changes between sense versions.
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Possibly, but in any case we'd still lose the graphical imperfections of the old, resized Sense 3.0 lockscreen. In Sense 3.5, the ring is a lot bigger too - it sticks out further from the bottom, making it easier to grab and unlock. Even just graphically, it's better than the current lockscreen.
Also, nobody's ever tried this, so we'd never know if it'll be faster.
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But anyway, I guess a good starting point would be a smali by smali compare between an original sense3 htclockscreen.apk and one from the hybrid roms to roughly see what needs changing. Then you could try to apply the same modifications in the 3.5 lockscreen apk.
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I concur. Thanks for your input!
Trust me, I know what needs doing
How hard it is to do is the question, porting apks between frameworks is fairly simple unless they are massively different and the apk is hugely dependent on it.
I had miui v4 themes working on evervolv by hand porting the code, and ported apks between frameworks before so have a fair idea what needs doing .
This thread will turn out to be highly educational then. Nice
Just fyi, due to a couple of things taking longer than I thought yesterday, will most likely get around to looking at this on Wednesday. I'll post when I have anything useful.
Alright. No worries, I've got plenty of revision to kill time until then.
Is there a way to "install" Sense 3.0 lockscreen on Sense 1.9 (stock HTC gingerbread for Desire)?
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Is there a way to "install" Sense 3.0 lockscreen on Sense 1.9 (stock HTC gingerbread for Desire)?
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Not without modifying it, and no, I have no plans to look at anything else sense related, sorry.
Please stay on topic.
Been trying to get Alex-Vs rom since yesterday, and download is stuck at 98% and has been disconnecting constantly. PITA and I'm tired so hopefully it'll finish tomorrow and I can have a look.