Greetings.
There's a question i am having a hard time finding an answer on using the search function.
I am sitting here with my stock HTC Magic, with a perfect 1.33.0014 SPL it seems. I've managed to make a goldcard, whatsoever i've read it's important to flash a higher version SPL than my current one. So the question goes, is the 1.33.2010 considered a higher version than 1.33.0014? I don't know if i should look at it as if the last 2 numbers are the version (as 10 is lower than 14) or if it should be read as 2010 is higher than 14. Please enlighten me
Some clever mind have to be able to answer this simple question!
Did i specify it enough?
You want to use the 2010 version since it is compatible with Magic 32A.
There is more information about it in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529019
pixelkid said:
Greetings.
There's a question i am having a hard time finding an answer on using the search function.
I am sitting here with my stock HTC Magic, with a perfect 1.33.0014 SPL it seems. I've managed to make a goldcard, whatsoever i've read it's important to flash a higher version SPL than my current one. So the question goes, is the 1.33.2010 considered a higher version than 1.33.0014? I don't know if i should look at it as if the last 2 numbers are the version (as 10 is lower than 14) or if it should be read as 2010 is higher than 14. Please enlighten me
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Technically, yes, 0014 is newer than 2010. But the 2010 SPL is an Engineering SPL that allows fastboot commands, so it's a better SPL to use, in my opinion.
The SPL version doesn't have to be higher, the ROM version needs to be higher. The goldcard flash of 2.53.707 should change your ROM version and SPL at the same time with no issues.
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does any one now how to lower the spl . when u start the ppc mine is 3.08 and i need it lower so i can unlock my phone
Well, my guess is that your phone is already unlocked if your SPL is 3.08.
Is is a G3 or G4 Wizard?
G3 But I Wont To Put Black Diamond On It
So just try to launch the setup for BD to know if it really isn't already unlocked (in case it is, the Rom will install, and if it isn't, then it just won't, so theres' no risk for your phone.
Ya It Says Like Bnf Error
So you just have to follow the Wiki:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
i need to downgrade me spl first i no how to unlock it
So what? Can't you READ? Everything is written in there, including the way to downgrade.
Here is a link to the adequate Rom since you seem so lazy...
Good luck
http://c4software.another-team.com/wm5.0/Downgrade/CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
lol im not lazy i have read so many tutorials on to unlock to phone
Just to forewarn you, do not install the downgrade ROM until you bring your IPL/SPL down from 3.08 to 2.xx. If you don't you may end up like a lot of other people on here where you can't upgrade the IPL after you get done unlocking your phone and go to install WM6. To get it down, just go to your service providers website and download their official version of their ROM and install it first and that should bring your IPL/SPL down to a 2.xx version, then flash the downgrade ROM.
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Just to forewarn you, do not install the downgrade ROM until you bring your IPL/SPL down from 3.08 to 2.xx. If you don't you may end up like a lot of other people on here where you can't upgrade the IPL after you get done unlocking your phone and go to install WM6. To get it down, just go to your service providers website and download their official version of their ROM and install it first and that should bring your IPL/SPL down to a 2.xx version, then flash the downgrade ROM.
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I did find one workaround that appears to almost always work is to have a minisd with a dumped raw image of a previous rom with ipl/spl included (r2d all command)...this was able to downgrade a phone on 3.08 back to 2.24 even after having gone to wm6. (it downgraded it back to wm5 at the same time)...conventional flashes were failing due to the ipl/spl.
ok thanks i will do that then i will unlock smart thinking
famewolf said:
I did find one workaround that appears to almost always work is to have a minisd with a dumped raw image of a previous rom with ipl/spl included (r2d all command)...this was able to downgrade a phone on 3.08 back to 2.24 even after having gone to wm6. (it downgraded it back to wm5 at the same time)...conventional flashes were failing due to the ipl/spl.
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Yeah, downgrading your IPL/SPL is easy, it's when you go from a 3.xx IPL/SPL straight to a 1.xx IPL/SPL that can cause problems, like your IPL sticking at 1.01 afterwards and not wanting to upgrade back to a higher IPL.
YA but i cant find a downgrade for my spl
In the future, don't send private messages to people who haven't contributed to this thread. If you can't figure out how to downgrade and/or unlock your phone after reading the many, many threads on how to do it, I suggest sticking with WM5.
Here, run this. It's an IPL/SPL version only. It won't affect anything you info or programs you have loaded on your phone right now, all it will do is lower you back down to an IPL/SPL of 2.26.
ya that made me ipl 2.26 not my spl
That's not normal, try running it again. I think I just put a file that will change it to 2.25 in another post that you started. If the 2.26 one doesn't work after running it again, try the 2.25 one and see if it works for you.
Just install a factory T-Mo or Cingular ROM
(Gotta locate 1 yourself)
You'll lose all your info but you wanted to flash another Rom anyway.
You gotta keep a factory Rom handy when things go wrong
cujo did you just buy an 8125 because you think it looks cool or do you actually understand the phone? It seems to me like you should be using a razr or something less complex than that...
masters!!! hi!! i have an o2 exec here.
i've read some articles here and in wiki for upgrading my device. howver, i havent seen a thing about bootloader.
these are my device's info:
rom version: 1.30.107 wwe
radio version: 1.09.00
ext rom version: 1.30.162 wwe
bootloader: 1.00
my question is, do i need to upgrade my bootloader first to 1.01 before doing an upgrade to wm6?
in connection with this, i believe my device is g3 (please correct me if i'm wrong), will IVAN rom work on G3? how about Rom Update 2.07.04.BL, will it work on g3? there are no information on their threads if these are for g3 or g4...
thanks for those who can help me.. thanks again!
Yes, You need to upgrade to BL 1.01
By Default all of the ROM's work on G3 devices unless stated. Even the ones that state that they work on G4, work on G3 as well. I have tried all of the mentioned (and more) on my G3 device and they all work.
Laubscherc said:
Yes, You need to upgrade to BL 1.01
By Default all of the ROM's work on G3 devices unless stated. Even the ones that state that they work on G4, work on G3 as well. I have tried all of the mentioned (and more) on my G3 device and they all work.
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so, upgrading to BL 1.01 is necessary. (however, mmamaich stated that it is not necessary...)
thank you so much for the useful informations. i'll be reflashing to wm6 later. thanks again great master!
what will happen if i upgrade directly to wm6 without upgrading first to BL 1.01? will it kill my device? thanks again!
iamwin said:
masters!!! hi!! i have an o2 exec here.
i've read some articles here and in wiki for upgrading my device. howver, i havent seen a thing about bootloader.
these are my device's info:
rom version: 1.30.107 wwe
radio version: 1.09.00
ext rom version: 1.30.162 wwe
bootloader: 1.00
my question is, do i need to upgrade my bootloader first to 1.01 before doing an upgrade to wm6?
in connection with this, i believe my device is g3 (please correct me if i'm wrong), will IVAN rom work on G3? how about Rom Update 2.07.04.BL, will it work on g3? there are no information on their threads if these are for g3 or g4...
thanks for those who can help me.. thanks again!
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Hi Everyone
I too would like an answer to iamwin's question . . .
I still have Bootloader v1.00 on my Xda Exec and I've loaded "2.07.05.BL from Beasty & Laurentius" on my device - not even knowing that it may or may not be necessary to update the bootloader . . .
I am confused as to whether my device is G3 or G4 and which is a G3 Rom and which is a G4 Rom and what is the significance of updating the bootloader on the device, since I've already flashed a WM6 Rom on a Bootloader v1.00 device, would it have any repercussions
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I read that some forum member's device have bootloader 2.01 - is it better to upgrade to the newer bootloader version - but is it available for download?
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Cheers
SHK
Bootloader 2.01 is What Is Displayed On G4 Devices After Bootloader Update.
On G3 The Update Shows As 1.01.
I Believe Thats Correct Neways.
I was on BL 1.00 on my first try to upgrade to a WM6 ROM. All went well.
The SPL upgrade is meant to Super CID the device to make it compatible with the different modified ROM's available other than the shipped ones. Other than that, it was supposed to SIM unlock the Universal for subscribed users to telco's. I assume that you're on Globe or Smart and your SIM is already unlocked.
I see no other point other than the above that would make the Universal better or faster or more stable by applying the SPL upgrade, except maybe for troubleshooting purposes where a tool requires a modified BL.
Based on experience, I started not being able to flush ROM's with the SD Card inserted since I did the SPL upgrade.
My advice is to try the upgrade at it's current BL version and upgrade SPL or SIM unlock only if you are unable to proceed with the upgrade.
Cheers (Kabayan)!
P.S.
Btw, OS ROM selection is a matter of taste & usage. Determine the main use of your Uni & check for the ROM with no bugs exhibited for that main purpose. I hope video call is not among your main thing coz your going to be disappointed. Would be easier to go through the threads specifically the first page where bugs & fixes are mentioned. All of the new WM6 ROM's with OS CE core 5.2.1921& above are fast & stable except for some minor bugs here & there. All of the new releases runs on either G3 or G4.
@rhmartin
woW!! thanks kabayan!
i have already downloaded the patched ruu, which i believe is the right tool for upgrading. if i am correct, this patched ruu will bypass cid checking right?
so if im to upgrade, i'll just put the *.nbf file (rom) to the folder of the patched ruu (extracted). please correct me if im wrong,
salamat po!!!
Thank you!!!
Yup, the patched RUU is in the form of an exe file like this: *_noID.exe.
For starters just upgrade the OS ROM. The radio ROM (radio_.nbf - version 1.15 is preferred) can follow later, applying the same procedure upgrading the OS ROM.
Both ROMs can be updated exclusively (separately) from each other!
Good luck 'tol!
Laubscherc said:
Yes, You need to upgrade to BL 1.01
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No, any bootloader starting from 0.53 would work with WM6. I personally don;t recommend to touch bootloader.
@mamaich
thanks for the clarification!!!
@rhmartin
thanks for the guide. it seems i have what i need to upgrade my device.
masters, i'll update you after i upgrade my device!
iamwin said:
what will happen if i upgrade directly to wm6 without upgrading first to BL 1.01? will it kill my device? thanks again!
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I have a Qtek 9000 with bootloader 1.00 and have flashed it numerous times. There may be other (brand name) factors which may lead some to conclude that it is necessary to upgrade. If you try to flash with the older bootloader, I beleive that the worst would be that the process would self-abort, leaving your existing ROM in tact. Safest to have the OEM ROM available and ready before you try, just in case you need it.
Please help me upgrading the Bootloader to anything over 0.6
I got an JasJar for ROM testing, - however, I cannot flash it using http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Bootloader
nor does it work with _noID
there is no progress bar, but I get "success message" really short after. Cold reset does not help, bootloader is still v0.6
AlCapone said:
Please help me upgrading the Bootloader to anything over 0.6
I got an JasJar for ROM testing, - however, I cannot flash it using http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Bootloader
nor does it work with _noID
there is no progress bar, but I get "success message" really short after. Cold reset does not help, bootloader is still v0.6
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..maybe somebody can provide an older bootloader ?
found the error - now upgrades work fine.
The error was caused by a massive overdose of bloatware and spyware, called Windows Vista, wich I recently got infected by, because my I got new PC at my workplace.
the simplest and best solution is to find and install a OS that's a OS, not a pile of junk.
Just so I don't get flamed to bad for asking a what some would consider a simple question, I had an 8525 that I made SuperCID and HardSPL, so I have done this before. I have also read the majority of material in the wiki and the forums on what I would like to do.
So here goes,
I just purchased the Tilt and am looking to do the same. It is stock to the block right now.
ROM 1.62.502.0
Radio 1.27.14.09
Protocol 22.45.88.07H
My question is what is the sequence of events that I need to do in order to get my phone SuperCID and HardSPL to the point I can start using some of these wonderful 6.1 ROMS?
What HardSPL? v1.0? 3.56? I would guess 3.56 and that it should be the first thing I do.
Now what SuperCID? I found 2, here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236 and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583
Any guidance would be very appreciated.
Thanks for your help
JD
The hardSPL depends on the ROM you're going to flash. Some ROMs work better with certain SPLs. Check.
For ease of mind, hardSPL first then security unlock. You can't go wrong in that order.
JudgeDredd67 said:
Just so I don't get flamed to bad for asking a what some would consider a simple question, I had an 8525 that I made SuperCID and HardSPL, so I have done this before. I have also read the majority of material in the wiki and the forums on what I would like to do.
So here goes,
I just purchased the Tilt and am looking to do the same. It is stock to the block right now.
ROM 1.62.502.0
Radio 1.27.14.09
Protocol 22.45.88.07H
My question is what is the sequence of events that I need to do in order to get my phone SuperCID and HardSPL to the point I can start using some of these wonderful 6.1 ROMS?
What HardSPL? v1.0? 3.56? I would guess 3.56 and that it should be the first thing I do.
Now what SuperCID? I found 2, here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236 and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583
Any guidance would be very appreciated.
Thanks for your help
JD
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Ok, so I don't know about the super cid process but here's at least how you can start the journey:
Copy KAIS_SSPL onto your device
take out sim card and SD card
run KAIS_SSPL
Unplug USB wait 5 -15 seconds, plug in.
Run the Hard_SPL of your choice depending on your ROM choice. Seems like the ones out there are using 3.56, but it varies
Make sure to also flash a compatible radio!
Viola! you are done and ready to flash a ROM!
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What HardSPL? v1.0? 3.56? I would guess 3.56 and that it should be the first thing I do.
JD
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1.) Flash 1.1JockyW HardSPL
2.) Using Jockys SuperCID process security unlock your device.
3.) Flash to any other HardSPL
4.) Flash the ROM of your choice.
Thank you all for your comments. I feel a lot better going into this now.
Noob question sorry. Sequence of events....
Appologies in advance as this is obviously a nooby question....
I have just aquired a t-Mobile branded MDA Vario III. I want to CID/SIM Unlock it as well as Hard-SPL it so I can install whatever ROMs I would like.
I previously had a HTC Wizard that I CID & SIM unlocked with the Lociwiz tool, however I had to downgrade the IPL/SPL to version 1.x to get this to work. Once it was unlocked I was able to install any ROM. I am looking for a similar thing with my new Kaiser and I can't find a Wiki or guide explaining the steps. It seems there are 1.x HardSPL's as well as Security unlockers, plus 3.x HardSPLs but no definitive guide as to the correct sequence.
1. I want to unlock the phone so I can use any SIM
2. I want to unlock the phone so I can install any ROM
With the Wizard I had to downgrade IPL/SPL run the Lokiwiz tool and the upgrade to whatever I wanted. How do I do the same with the Kaiser?
Sorry....
Andy
ADB100 said:
Appologies in advance as this is obviously a nooby question....
I have just aquired a t-Mobile branded MDA Vario III. I want to CID/SIM Unlock it as well as Hard-SPL it so I can install whatever ROMs I would like.
I previously had a HTC Wizard that I CID & SIM unlocked with the Lociwiz tool, however I had to downgrade the IPL/SPL to version 1.x to get this to work. Once it was unlocked I was able to install any ROM. I am looking for a similar thing with my new Kaiser and I can't find a Wiki or guide explaining the steps. It seems there are 1.x HardSPL's as well as Security unlockers, plus 3.x HardSPLs but no definitive guide as to the correct sequence.
1. I want to unlock the phone so I can use any SIM
2. I want to unlock the phone so I can install any ROM
With the Wizard I had to downgrade IPL/SPL run the Lokiwiz tool and the upgrade to whatever I wanted. How do I do the same with the Kaiser?
Sorry....
Andy
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Since you are a Senior Member, you should already know the first rule is to search before creating new threads. However, since I am in a good mood from starting my new job this week, I will "help" you out. Check out the threads below, and after some in-depth reading, all of your question will be answered.
HardSPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Sim Unlock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039
Now here is your nickels worth of free advice: Do NOT attempt to run the SIM Unlocker with a WM 6.1 ROM or the 3.xx HardSPL installed.
Closing this thread so it can fade away....
Hi guys! just brought a G2 fews days ago.Here is my G2 status :
PVT 32A ENG S-OFF H;(SAPP10000)
HBOOT-1.76.2007
CPLD-12
RADIO-6.35.07.29
O.S. 1.5 cupcake + UI Sense (i dont needed)
Its seems up to now there is no solution to root the machine after i read tremendous articles.
The is no difference between bricked and unrooted magic coz too many restriction applied.
I am so disappointed with my Gphone..coz its not a convenient phone for everyone which somehow i think WM is much better...at least you dont have to go through a complex procedure to gain higher acess right which i belonged to..
Anyone know how to rooted this crap? Please tell me with many thanks !
Don't post messy thread!!! If you don't understand process of flashing, you will probably kill your phone.
Read forum, try to get more patience.
After all, you can simply flash any ROM with tag [radio 6.35] - CursorSense, Gyd [6.35] or other... they are with root
OHow can you flash any Rom when security status is on ?
S-on .pls tell me!? Others said h-boot 1.76 version is a prefect spl. I just wonder you can flash any Rom sucessfully
You must be kidding!
You wrote that you have HBOOT-1.76.2007 which is an engineering SPL with S-OFF (it's even written on the first line of the fastboot info you provided). The one people have problems with is 1.76.0007 which is a perfected SPL. You should read more carefully next time.
You can already do everything you want with this phone and I'd be surprised if you didn't have root access already as the installed system is probably Cursorsense (this is only a guess but it's been the only one able to run on this Radio version until recently). I'd also bet there's already a custom Recovery on it (boot the phone holding home+power to check that).
With this setup you can flash any ROM that is compatible with the 6.35 Radio but you can also revert to an older Radio/SPL combo if you need to.
Check the main thread about this setup. It also explains the downgrading procedure. Check the wiki if you need more basic knowledge before proceeding.
lol .. ur phone is already root enabled ( u likely have bought a used phone )
just flash the proper recovery and rom and ur done
this is the recovery guide from curserdroid's thread :
Custom Recovery RA-Magic32A-6.35-v1.5.2
Mounts SD card immediately, based on RA-Sapphire-v1.5.2H
Highly recommended!
Flash through FASTBOOT
Code:
fastboot erase recovery
fastboot flash recovery recovery-RA-Magic32A-6.35-v1.5.2.img
fastboot oem powerdown
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Its seems up to now there is no solution to root the machine after i read tremendous articles
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what did u read exactly ?!
kathz said:
Hi guys! just brought a G2 fews days ago.Here is my G2 status :
PVT 32A ENG S-OFF H;(SAPP10000)
HBOOT-1.76.2007
CPLD-12
RADIO-6.35.07.29
O.S. 1.5 cupcake + UI Sense (i dont needed)
Its seems up to now there is no solution to root the machine after i read tremendous articles.
The is no difference between bricked and unrooted magic coz too many restriction applied.
I am so disappointed with my Gphone..coz its not a convenient phone for everyone which somehow i think WM is much better...at least you dont have to go through a complex procedure to gain higher acess right which i belonged to..
Anyone know how to rooted this crap? Please tell me with many thanks !
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Retarded. How shameful the newbie asking the questions without looking between 1.76.0007 (Perfected SPL) and 1.76.2007 (Engineering SPL)
The 1st thread i mentioned my phone status is incorrect(mistake). truly sorry about that.
PVT 32A ENG S-ON H;(SAPP10000)
HBOOT-1.76.0007
CPLD-12
RADIO-6.35.07.29
O.S. 1.5 cupcake + UI Sense
Can anyone pls tell me how to root this phone ??
Please...give me some hint...coz i dont to want to sell it to buy i-phone.
some android application is very useful and handy..all i need is to rooted the phone in order to run those application.
Please dont be upset an angry and accept my apology of the incorrect information i provided.
For now there is no way to change the 1.76.0007 perfected SPL and so you can' t gain root privileges. You' ll have to wait until a newer ROM version is released from HTC, in order to use the goldcard method to change your perfected SPL. Or until someone finds an exploit for the particular SPL.
I have one big "Strategic" question i have htc elf, i understand concept of ROM upgrading and what it does. However i am unsure about SPL IPL and RADIO
I would be grateful if someone explained shortly what they do and why should i upgrade them
Thanks in advance
What is a SPL? The SPL, or Second Program Loader, in conjunction with the IPL comprise a device's bootloader. Aside from bootstrapping Android, the bootloader also fulfills various diagnostic functions. One of these functions is the manipulation of data in the device's internal flash ram. Depending on the SPL installed, the user can apply a signed NBH file, flash nand images, and more. Note that the SPL is installed and operates independently of the Android build that runs atop it.
hope this helps
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Thanks man, now i see that SPL+IPL=Bootloader is like a Bios in computer however i don't know how to find most suitable SPL IPL for me can you advice some page where i can see versions and descriptions so that i can analyse pros and cons of ugrading.
here is some info and files i not sure what version your running these were updates please be sure to have backup and read all post and understand them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408637
LocationZero said:
... how to find most suitable SPL IPL for me can you advice some page where i can see versions and ...
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The most suitable SPL/IPL is the lastest version of Hard SPL avaible for your device, which opens the device to the wonder world of custom ROMs. Even if you don't plan to use custom ROMs, having Hard-SPL will enable you to use official ROMs from different carriers or HTC own official ROMs for regions that the device is sold unlocked by HTC.
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Thanks People You helped me very much
HTCRT
BTW on elf wiki link for newest SPL IPL's are broken and also htcrt link is missing where can i report that ?
The USPL for Elf is still available in the Elf device forum. Search my friend!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320155
I don't have an HTC Elf myself, use at your own risk.