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Asus p 835 :)

Hello
Got some screenshots..enjoy them..will post more..in some days.
G sensor can be hacked to used with other apps from registry.
Any questions, pls feel free to ask here

can you give some feedback about the performance and how much did you pay for it?

performance is better than omia and i guess better than all existing devices using msm 7200a except HTC HD..It is a testing uni. pricing is not known yet

Hi hdubli, is Mr. Broadcom again... Any thought about my search?

User22. sorry no Mr Broadcom but MS.But the registry do have some entries reg the broadcom..however u can have a look at mr Bluesolil

Any feedback on the trackball effectiveness?
How does the fake leather on the front effect the design?
Is that a flash or speaker on the back near camera? where is the speaker?
Size, will it fit well in a jeans front pocket- or will it feel bulky(too long)?
Battery life with 2-3 calls 10 minutes GSM and in general in hours?
How soon will we see it for sale?
Thank you

hdubli said:
User22. sorry no Mr Broadcom but MS.But the registry do have some entries reg the broadcom..however u can have a look at mr Bluesolil
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Can you point me to that bluesoleil? ,i'm lost about it.
Thanks a lot for your help.

the bt stack is from asus..not from ms and not from broadcom...for Bluesolil chk yr pm

fockin qualcomm cpu omg, is that asus really faster than omnia?

What about the camera and flash? I´m looking for a new PDA with a nice camera, so i´m considering P835 or LG GM730

hdubli said:
Hello
Got some screenshots..enjoy them..will post more..in some days.
G sensor can be hacked to used with other apps from registry.
Any questions, pls feel free to ask here
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how would you do that in the registry? I got a P835 and the autorotation works for a limited applications only. I am also trying to make it work with apps that were build for HTC g-sensors.
Someone manage to port the HTC g-sensor wrapper to Omnia. I tried the wrapper (a few dll's) but does not work at all. I am hoping there will be developers that will look into this Asus wrapper.

Camera and related
There is no flash on the back, the speaker there seems mono and a weak one at that, camera has given me noisy pics so far, have to try it out in full day light yet, trackball is good, This is one thing that made me buy it over HTC Diamond II. I have not been able to find a good MP4 player for it yet.
On the positive side, I removed the default today addins and added PointUI. The black look of that interface goes well with the P835 design.
The phone is responsive with enough memory to spare. Though I feel let down by the lack of main storage as a lot of application add on to the Windows folder. Any help in that department is greatly appreciated (Extendir ? any body got a CAB installer for it that works on P835, I can test it if somebody can provide it for me).
Thanks HDUBLI, you have been a great contributor for the ASUS.

Guys what did you think about this pda? Plan to get one. But I heard from other forum that they said the touch scree will fail, means the stylus can't detachable on the screen.

Does functionality suffer from the loss of a D-Pad

Im currently using an Elfin, which ive used for quite a while and have no plans of giving up just yet.
But...
I have been thinking about the future of mobiles from HTC.
Several of their most recent ones have no directional pad
(the 4 way thing with a button in the middle)
I was wondering (as the title says) if you feel you loose some functionality because you dont have a dpad.
I know they have bigger screens, and UI improvements, but the ability to navigate with a nice and simple up/down/left/right/enter seems too good to loose. Its one of those basics that i fall back to.
One major issue i would have is I like a few games and apps which require the use of a D Pad. On PPCs without D Pads, is there a way around this?
Ive just been wondering about this for a while.
Anyone else had similar thoughts?
Do you have a phone without a DPad?
If yes, please write something. Im intrigued.
Cris

Yeah I have a touch HD which doesnt have a Dpad, but the functionality is absolutely awesome with the virtual keys, no issues at all. and for games there is a dedicated gamepad developed already. look around for that in here...

I have an HD: only for games you could feel the missing of DPad, for all other programs I use fingers or Keyboard virtual DPad.
I think the big display makes the difference.
D'rath

akash_nu said:
Yeah I have a touch HD which doesnt have a Dpad, but the functionality is absolutely awesome with the virtual keys, no issues at all. and for games there is a dedicated gamepad developed already. look around for that in here...
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virtual keys?
i was wondering if there was something like that.
Any chance of a link?
no. wait. ill google it

The (LEO) HD2 is making want to go back to windows

Since the G1 and now the mytouch both of which I flashed the Hero rom on, I just found my perfect business phone and this one could be a true Iphone killer and it has windows. I have not used a windows based phone since the dash and now the HD2 is making want to try it again. I live off outlook so that a plus but playing with the touchpro 2 I dont like some items, but like the Hero rich widgets, have you guys heard of anything?

Have you tried Androkidd 0.8, I installed it on my Pro2 yesterday and it seems good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540428

Cool, another Leo thread!

Since I posted this has there been any development on getting andriod on the HD2? Now that the Evo has come out I am hoping the process has been helped?

FenderGuy said:
Since I posted this has there been any development on getting andriod on the HD2? Now that the Evo has come out I am hoping the process has been helped?
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The developers have finally overcome the segfaults which previously prevented the Linux kernel from booting fully, meaning that Linux can boot fully, and Android is possible. However, the touch screen doesn't have any Linux drivers, meaning that until someone develops a touch screen driver from scratch, that Android (or any other Linux userland) is unusable without a USB keyboard/mouse plugged in .
The EVO 4G seems similar to the HD2, and it is reasonable to think that it may help in development of Android for the HD2, but it's actually quite the opposite. The hardware used in the HD2 is much different than that in the EVO. Besides the common appearance, the two devices are completely independent of one another, and the developers are mostly on their own. Just a small word of advice: don't ever buy a phone because of features that have yet to be developed, as there is absolutely no guarantee that Android/Linux will ever work fully on the HD2.

Leo is a great device, and it´s not outdated as it has the same or even more power than some newer devices.
WM is doing well on it because it´s fast processor

I agree withthe above poster. I think HD2 and WM have years left. Right now its the only phone I can do everything I want with, except HULU, which I firmly beleive will come. Heres what Android or iOS4 or WP7 will have to do out of the box for me to give up WM6.5
1. Play nice with my hava box for live TV.
2. Emulate PS1 game flawlessly
3. Play the PS1 games with a wireless PS3 controller.
4. Play any kind of video in existance thats under 2GB in file size with no frame dropping or quality loss.
5. Word, and Excel
6. a FTP program
7. Cut, copy, paste, and open with...
8. Streaming radio and play, OGG's, AAC, and other off brand codecs
These are my main concerns when I hear about WP7 coming. I fear we may loose all the killer software that has been build the last 5 years. Hopefully WP7 will have a compatability mode. LOL

maxpower097 said:
I agree withthe above poster. I think HD2 and WM have years left. Right now its the only phone I can do everything I want with, except HULU, which I firmly beleive will come. Heres what Android or iOS4 or WP7 will have to do out of the box for me to give up WM6.5
1. Play nice with my hava box for live TV.
2. Emulate PS1 game flawlessly
3. Play the PS1 games with a wireless PS3 controller.
4. Play any kind of video in existance thats under 2GB in file size with no frame dropping or quality loss.
5. Word, and Excel
6. a FTP program
7. Cut, copy, paste, and open with...
8. Streaming radio and play, OGG's, AAC, and other off brand codecs
These are my main concerns when I hear about WP7 coming. I fear we may loose all the killer software that has been build the last 5 years. Hopefully WP7 will have a compatability mode. LOL
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Because we are the minority. those lovely features you speak of wont be present in most phone os going forward. Apple has shown that dumb down super simple phones are the way to go. btw I dont mean dumb down in the sense that they suck. What I mean is, we as a community are use to having free reign on what we do with our phones. The average user will do more harm than good with these features. With great power comes great responsiblity.
I like android! I havent seen a single thing that it cant do. Infact because of people like cyanogen its grown at record breaking speeds to be come a contender.
One of the best things about android is I have been able to install albeit modified versions of android on my g1 and my friends droid.
Now hes currently running froyo before motorola even has a chance to update it.

Thanks for the posts....I am using my Gen 1 Mytouch and while I like it a lot, its starting to be to slow for me.
I think the reason why I won't to windows is that I like the Andriod market a lot, being able to get a program , etc
But I am a windows guy on my laptop running outlook, office, etc and I am thinking it would be better for my business to switch to WM?
Maybe I need to research the market to see what I can get

Come on in the waters fine! With the snapdragon wimo 6.5 really pops. Its equal to or greater then ios4 or android. Once you get cookiemonsters app up, everyone at your work will be jelous of your phone. From comparing my multiple wimo phones with friend iphones and droid phones I can easily say once my rom is selected and phone is tweaked its actually much more stable then the other phones.

Multi-touch piano?

Does anyone know if there are any multi-touch piano apps for the HD2? iPhone has it and hopefully WM will get it also now that capacitive screens are coming

I have contacted the maker of Omniano, and he said that he'll look into it.

That would be fun!

As far as I've understood, the HD2 (or rather WM6.5) does NOT support multi-touch.
It only supports pinch-to-zoom.

Pappagallo said:
As far as I've understood, the HD2 (or rather WM6.5) does NOT support multi-touch.
It only supports pinch-to-zoom.
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The HD2 supports multi-touch. The devs on xda have found out how to do "dual-touch" from other apps that are on the phone, but nothing more.
That does not mean that the phone is not multi-touch.

I have istalled a simple aplication that shows that, is called I3V5y Multitouch (serach in the forum) shows the "dual-touch"... more than one is mulit

Piteko said:
I have istalled a simple aplication that shows that, is called I3V5y Multitouch (serach in the forum) shows the "dual-touch"... more than one is mulit
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Pappagallo was saying that the HD2 only supports dual-touch, or "pinch-to-zoom", as HTC insist on calling it.
True multi-touch would be the ability to detect you putting as many fingers on the screen as you can!

johncmolyneux said:
Pappagallo was saying that the HD2 only supports dual-touch, or "pinch-to-zoom", as HTC insist on calling it.
True multi-touch would be the ability to detect you putting as many fingers on the screen as you can!
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I don't think so.
The hardware of HD2 is multi-touch ready, but the software does not support it (because it is WM). A "single-touch" application that is installed on a multi-touch device, it doesn't mean that it will understand multi-touch input, but the developer must rewrite that application to support multi-touch input.

Why people so concern about multi touch if you can do it all in one finger. Why bother to use more fingers which is more inconvience.
I tired I3V5y Multitouch, it is fun, but not much useful. I look forward to more compatible softwares for multi-touch function.

adad said:
Why people so concern about multi touch if you can do it all in one finger. Why bother to use more fingers which is more inconvience.
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Well, this very thread is about piano multi-touch which would be a big improvement. You don't see any pianists playing with only one finger, do you?

johncmolyneux said:
Pappagallo was saying that the HD2 only supports dual-touch, or "pinch-to-zoom", as HTC insist on calling it.
True multi-touch would be the ability to detect you putting as many fingers on the screen as you can!
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ngocluu said:
I don't think so.
The hardware of HD2 is multi-touch ready, but the software does not support it (because it is WM). A "single-touch" application that is installed on a multi-touch device, it doesn't mean that it will understand multi-touch input, but the developer must rewrite that application to support multi-touch input.
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If you read a little further up, you'd see that I was actually saying that the HD2 IS multi-touch. I think it's quite clear from my descriptions that I understand what a "single-touch" application is, and since I've been developing software for nearly 30 years, I also understand that an application limitation will mean that "the developer must rewrite that application to support multi-touch input."
Thanks for the help though.

So what about the Piano Application ?
Any news?

adad said:
Why people so concern about multi touch if you can do it all in one finger. Why bother to use more fingers which is more inconvience.
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Two reasons off the top of my head, firstly games playing... the ability to move and shoot, jump, etc...
Secondly and most annoying to me, trying to unlock the phone one handed... the palm of my hand touches the bottom right corner of the screen and so my finger trying to S2U doesnt get recognised, this happens whenever I let a friend look at my phone too becaue people are not used to having to use two hands or being carefull not to touch the screen anywhere but where you need to (not easy when the screen surround is so thin)!!
Tubgirl said:
Well, this very thread is about piano multi-touch which would be a big improvement. You don't see any pianists playing with only one finger, do you?
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lol Exactly!

adad said:
Why people so concern about multi touch if you can do it all in one finger. Why bother to use more fingers which is more inconvience.
I tired I3V5y Multitouch, it is fun, but not much useful. I look forward to more compatible softwares for multi-touch function.
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^^--- this dude doesn't know much about the benefit of multi-touch. it opens a lot of possibilities to a phone like finger touch gestures. multi-touch can also mean multi-task.

[DISCUSSION] Running iPhone Apps in HD2 [Possible or Impossible]

As stated on the title, I think it will be great if we can rip iphone apps to run in HD2. Just a suggestion please don't flame me
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Converting apps between platforms
http://pocketnow.com/software-1/air...-write-applications-for-windows-mobile-others
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[iPhone like apps & tweaks build into WinMo]
Applications that can be found in iPhone which are developed or recreated for WinMo.
Doesn't matter with GUI or text interface as long as the idea is there for being creative.
I will try to compile all the 'iPhone like apps' in here which are developed for daily use.
Download Applications:
»SBS Bus Time [SG Only]
»Show Traffic [With Google Map][SG Only]
»Metal Detector - Proof Of Concept
»S2U2 - iPhone Style Slide Lock
»Filmscope [SG Only]
»iPhoneToday - iPhoneToday Video by Birger » Here
Download Tweak:
»Co0kie's Home Tab - iPhone like menu [Swiping Style], Extended Quicklinks & More
More to come...
Credits to afoongwl215, dZenkinZ, 6Fg8, A_C, Co0kieMonster, tronikos, sh2sg.com & Birger for his video

It is impossible. 2 totally different operating system with 2 different file systems, 2 different control sets and 2 different sdk's.
The only way is if the developer makes the app for win mo.

if there was an emulator it would be not impossible...

True, but... I don't think this is gonna happen anytime soon.

I don't think an emulator is needed, I mean how many fart apps do you need??

espaleena why don't you just buy yourself an Iphone.
Sorry, but I can see so many useless messages coming from former Iphone owners on this HD2 sub-section... I am really fed up

i personaly would prefer to see an emulator of android. There are some nice apps that android has, such google map sky, google navigation and Layar. I know VMWare is working on a mobile virtualization but the solution is yet far away in time. But i have to say that an Iphone emulator would be nice also. There tons of apps and games that the Iphone has.

arturobandini said:
espaleena why don't you just buy yourself an Iphone.
Sorry, but I can see so many useless messages coming from former Iphone owners on this HD2 sub-section... I am really fed up
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Too bad I'm not an iPhone fanboy, liking something from iPhone Apps doesn't mean I have to get or support iPhone frenzy.
From my perspective point of view, HD2 users can create cabs to emulate games like FPSece or Morphgear, so you see they can do something to make other things run on HD2. Please dont be stereotype arturobandini it's just a suggestion.

well i had a iphone myself, and it´s not a good phone. But some applications and games are very usefull and goodlooking. and with goodlooking i mean better than applications for the HD2. So if you never had a iphone stop talking about it. it´s like the same as people talking about the bible without reading it.

yep, in the bible, turns out God did it...hope haven't ruined the ending for anyone. Can't see an emulator for Iphone as you normally need 5-10 times the power of the emulated item for good emulation and the HD2 is good but not that good. Would love some augmented reality stuff for it though, which the iphone has...

For what is reported here http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee355030.aspx#portAmpConclusion if application developers want, it's not that hard to port iphone applications to windows mobile.

There is no way you can emulate iPhone OS or Android on the HD2. Emulation means you need a much more powerful hardware. The games for iPhone OS require pretty much the same hardware the HD2 has. Emulation is not possible.
You can only port them. But you would have to do it for each application and it seems very few developers are interested in porting their games to WM.
The other way would be to be able to boot that OS on your windows phone. It was actually possible on other phones like the Kaiser or the Polaris to boot Android natively.

i dont know if its possible to accomplish dual boot. One thing is get a Android Rom to HD2, but dual boot i dont know.

what about triple boot, me like

mamv said:
For what is reported here http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee355030.aspx#portAmpConclusion if application developers want, it's not that hard to port iphone applications to windows mobile.
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Thx for the info mamv, after reading the website it seems possible to port
iPhone apps that's downloadable in the Apps Store to HTC. We just need some experts to do it.
erik7272 said:
well i had a iphone myself, and it´s not a good phone. But some applications and games are very usefull and goodlooking. and with goodlooking i mean better than applications for the HD2. So if you never had a iphone stop talking about it. it´s like the same as people talking about the bible without reading it.
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Yeah there are some nice apps & games in iPhone.
As I believe HD2 can do more then what people might think,
running PSX games - possible
running SEGA / Gameboy / others - possible
running iPhone downloaded apps - I'm sure it is possible.

espaleena said:
Thx for the info mamv, after reading the website it seems possible to port
iPhone apps that's downloadable in the Apps Store to HTC. We just need some experts to do it.
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did you really read this article? and did you also understand whats neccessary to "port" an application? you need at least the sourcecode to do so! just downloading a various app and then say "ok, i'll port it" doesn't work
if the developer is willing to port (re-code) an app, then nearly every app can be ported, from nearly every system!

HD2 is a powerful device, the i-phone NO!
Hadware 's HD2, and not just hadware has no comparison to the i-phone, which is nothing but a cell phone more evolved than others and certainly not a PocketPC (say SMARPHONE AN ALMOST, ALMOST! SINCE MAY INSTALL APLICATIONS)
.. was Publicize properly and the people I have to buy, just for curiosity !!... made the news ..... few know the real smatphone!
The developers do admire beautiful of games for the iPhone, Anvendelser per screen capacitive, g-sensor, etc. ...
Why not do the same thing for the HD2 ????... WHY HAS NOT ONLY BEHIND THE BISNES who made the I-PHONE .. ALL HERE.
I-Phone bought many years and many will buy his aplicativo .... simple!
Now with HD2 hope someone aplicativo to invest more powerful and appropriate for this smartphone with the "S" capital ...
.. the people who bought the i-phone has noticed everything that does or fails to do ...
Hello to all and excuse the English ....
Understand?

vasta.antonio said:
HD2 is a powerful device, the i-phone NO!
Hadware 's HD2, and not just hadware has no comparison to the i-phone, which is nothing but a cell phone more evolved than others and certainly not a PocketPC (say SMARPHONE AN ALMOST, ALMOST! SINCE MAY INSTALL APLICATIONS)
.. was Publicize properly and the people I have to buy, just for curiosity !!... made the news ..... few know the real smatphone!
The developers do admire beautiful of games for the iPhone, Anvendelser per screen capacitive, g-sensor, etc. ...
Why not do the same thing for the HD2 ????... WHY HAS NOT ONLY BEHIND THE BISNES who made the I-PHONE .. ALL HERE.
I-Phone bought many years and many will buy his aplicativo .... simple!
Now with HD2 hope someone aplicativo to invest more powerful and appropriate for this smartphone with the "S" capital ...
.. the people who bought the i-phone has noticed everything that does or fails to do ...
Hello to all and excuse the English ....
Understand?
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Not true: the iPhone has much more powerful Open GL capabilities than the HD2 thanks to that custom PowerVR chip, the HD2 just isn't anywhere near powerful enough to emulate any iPhone software as all it has is raw horsepower. Just because the HD2 has a faster processor does not mean it is holistically 'better' - the iPhone hardware (particularly that of the 3Gs) is very powerful from a mobile graphics standpoint at least. The HD2 can barely cope with Windows Mobile centric apps for a whole day without crashing or lagging, and just look how much much smoother pinch to zoom is on Safari than Opera... the idea that it could emulate an iPhone app is insane, although I really would like it to be true as unfortunately I'm a big social networking and IM user and sadly Windows Mobile lags depressingly behind iPhone and Android in this respect - mainly owing to the embarrassing Windows Marketplace and a lack of definition and development pushing from Microsoft.

hebbe said:
did you really read this article? and did you also understand whats neccessary to "port" an application? you need at least the sourcecode to do so! just downloading a various app and then say "ok, i'll port it" doesn't work
if the developer is willing to port (re-code) an app, then nearly every app can be ported, from nearly every system!
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I didn't say things will be easy porting apps from iPhone to HD2 nor it
is impossible, the main thing is that it's possible to do it.

I do not think ...
But you have a HD2? ... Or you have AI-phone "phone"?
what you say is true only in part ..
I do not doubt that Mac has a duty ottomizato the requirements to run good games, but you can not compare with a PocketPC-phone forefront as HD2 ...
HD2 has everything in the I-Phone and much more ... then if windows is a bit limited in something, just because it does not only turn the games, but all or almost do it with a PC desktop laptop!!
Understand? is not a console but could also make the console, the I-Phone not know ...
my friends at I-Phone does not do many things ... you must carry it behind the PC!
I'm sure the games they play for I-PHONE HE CAN DO EVEN FOR WINDOWS, NOW WITH HD2 ONE CAN SAY YES!
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