Will a HTC Touch Verizon XV6900 be able to run TomTom/Garmin/IGo/ETC.. GPS without any cell service.
This says I need an active data connection for aGPS to work. Does that mean I cannot use any GPS software on this phone without buying a plan?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix
I understand I will need to flash a new ROM to unlock the GPS which I was going to do anyway to get WM6.5.
But I am buying a used phone or that will not be connected to any network but I hope to play with it and use the wifi portion to surf internet when I am on some trips.
If anyone has any other ideas on something I could use I would appreciate it.
Yes, AGPS requires a data connection to "fill in" GPS data using cell tower triangulation when you lose GPS connection. You don't have to use it though, it can be turned off to get back to just plain GPS.
I am currently using a Raphael without a data plan with TomTom and its working great.
ok thanks. So agps is just an extra benefit. It will still work as a standalone gps without a data plan
Yep, that's what I'm doing right now.
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Ok, maybe you guys can help here. I have quite a bit of experience with Windows Mobile phones (had an 8525, upgraded to a custom ROM, unlocked SIM/CID, etc), so that's what level of experience you're working with.
Now, I just picked up the Fuze, very cool phone! However, I'm wondering the following about GPS:
1. Is it available in this phone (i.e. AT&T didn't disable it).
2. I want to do GPS. I don't have a data plan. I DO have wi-fi. I DON'T want to be charged money. Is this possible?
Thanks in advance! The questions were probably asked elsewhere, but I looked around a bit and everything else looked way above these questions, which hopefully are pretty simple to answer...
i have the same question...
I know the Fuze has GPS, and i followed the steps on THIS link, but it doesnt seem to work, the GPS Test, never seems to finish looking for satelites, and when i go to Google Maps, it keeps "seeking GPS satelites"
GPS is available on the Fuze and it's independent of any data plan. All you need is some program that can access the GPS.
However, getting the GPS to work seems to be flakey at best. I tested mine briefly but wasn't able to get a signal lock. Need to do some more testing.
The GPS on my Fuze works great. First you should run Quick GPS and it will use the wifi to download the current GPS satellite locations. Then you should use google maps, you have to goto google maps menu and say 'use gps' then just go stand outside somewhere where theres no much tree coverage and wait for awhile (for the first time, now that I've done it once the GPS starts working in 10 seconds or so) Then you will start to pick up the gps satellites. I'm not sure how great it will be without a data plan... it uses the data plan to download the map info. Hopefully your wifi works out side.
cladeus101 said:
The GPS on my Fuze works great. First you should run Quick GPS and it will use the wifi to download the current GPS satellite locations. Then you should use google maps, you have to goto google maps menu and say 'use gps' then just go stand outside somewhere where theres no much tree coverage and wait for awhile (for the first time, now that I've done it once the GPS starts working in 10 seconds or so) Then you will start to pick up the gps satellites. I'm not sure how great it will be without a data plan... it uses the data plan to download the map info. Hopefully your wifi works out side.
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What about using something like Garmin or TomTom's software? Would that work without a data plan, and without the need for wi-fi?
I use Garmin without a data plan and it works great. I installed it first thing after I got my GPS and didn't do anything to get it to work. The GPS on my FUZE worked out of the box like it should.
hello everyone.
Since I don't have a data plan with AT&T, I use the program NoData which stops the transfer of any data from AT&T MediaNet or AT&T GPRS.
If I have those running, would I not be able to use my GPS? I have Google Maps installed and I'm looking to buy a TomTom software. If I have either of those, can I still use GPS without having to turn on Data?
Also, is it possible to download the directions and maps from Google Maps Mobile so that the phone just uses the GPS and updates the directions without the need to have an active data transfer?
Thanks
Google maps has to have data at all times. Tomtom has all the maps and POI on a storage card so it doesn't need data at all.
theomni said:
hello everyone.
Since I don't have a data plan with AT&T, I use the program NoData which stops the transfer of any data from AT&T MediaNet or AT&T GPRS.
If I have those running, would I not be able to use my GPS? I have Google Maps installed and I'm looking to buy a TomTom software. If I have either of those, can I still use GPS without having to turn on Data?
Also, is it possible to download the directions and maps from Google Maps Mobile so that the phone just uses the GPS and updates the directions without the need to have an active data transfer?
Thanks
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You can't use Google Maps without having data on (either AT&T data or WiFi) because it downloads the maps on the fly.
With TomTom, GPS should work just fine without any data because the maps are stored on your storage card.
I also use the NoData program and have no problems with Garmin Mobile XT (which works like TomTom).
all right. So even with NoData running, the GPS signal and network should work fine, right? And this if I use the GPS, I won't get charged extra from AT&T, will I?
You can't even use Google Maps on a Wifi-only connection?? Well that sucks.
theomni said:
all right. So even with NoData running, the GPS signal and network should work fine, right? And this if I use the GPS, I won't get charged extra from AT&T, will I?
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Yes it will work, no you won't get charged.
theomni said:
all right. So even with NoData running, the GPS signal and network should work fine, right? And this if I use the GPS, I won't get charged extra from AT&T, will I?
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Yes it will work, no you won't get charged.
You can put the phone in "Airplane mode" and turn the cellular radio off completely, and it will still work.
AT&T doesn't charge you for using the GPS. They charge you for using their Telenav program and maps. Completely different.
vicjan88 said:
You can't even use Google Maps on a Wifi-only connection?? Well that sucks.
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You can use google maps just fine with wifi...it just needs some sort of data access so any internet connection will do.
motionmind said:
You can use google maps just fine with wifi...it just needs some sort of data access so any internet connection will do.
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Works for me, too. I turned Wifi on, turned GPS on, turned cellular radio off... worked just fine.
I am curious if it is possible to use the built in GPS without a data plan.
I know that the QuickGPS (which keeps reminding me to download new data) makes use of the cell towers for downloading, but I was curious if I could, say, use Google Maps or TomTom or something.
IE, download the map software through the WiFi connection, and then just use the GPS (bypassing the cell towers).
espais said:
I am curious if it is possible to use the built in GPS without a data plan.
I know that the QuickGPS (which keeps reminding me to download new data) makes use of the cell towers for downloading, but I was curious if I could, say, use Google Maps or TomTom or something.
IE, download the map software through the WiFi connection, and then just use the GPS (bypassing the cell towers).
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you could use tomtom or igo without using data. google won't work without data though.
mr.jaguar said:
you could use tomtom or igo without using data. google won't work without data though.
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to expand on this, google doesn't have hte maps downloaded to your phone. the other two actually store the maps on the phone (memory card) so it doesn't need to use data to download the maps. the actual gps chip does not use data as it communicates with gps satellites to triangulate your position. The only problem with these programs is that htey cost money, so if you're willing to drop some cash, then you have your solution.
My friend has the LG incite and run windows mobile. He has no media net, but is able to use gps just by using gpsgate and then the tom tom program. i was wondering if there is a way for us on the FUZE to do the same?
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all you have to do is turn off the AGPS in your settings. (Go to Start > Settings > System > AGPS Settings) and make sure Enable AGPS is NOT checked. You now have GPS without using your MediaNet!
Definitely did not work for me... Are there any other settings that I need? I turned off AGPS and went to my google maps and tom tom and can't get it to work.
.....google maps REQUIRES the internet to work, whether it's WiFi or MediaNet some sort fo internet is needed.
...as per TomTom it should work. I used to do it all the time until i actually got the data plan for myself.
See i don't want to get the data plan because its just for something I will use once in a blue moon. I just wanna have GPS in case I need it some time
okay...so TomTom or any other navigation software will work as long as you have the maps on your storage card...
I gotta wait till I get my phone back, but can anyone tell me if this works? (People without media Net of course) From my understanding it'll keep saying that its looking for a connection and can't get one.
not sure what "media net" is assuming it's some sort of isp
but gps don't require gprs or even a phone part to work
mind you most these gps's dont work indoors you have to be outside
or in a car and have a working tomtom set correctly up or gamin or any
other gps software suite
Media Net is ATT data plan they call it media net. Everytime I try connecting GPS it seems like its trying to use a data plan and since I shut it off by calling up ATT it seems like my phone is only trying to go through ATT and saying no connection
tomtom and gamin gps software should not use a data connection at all
if of cause the install include the cards of where one is located
the same software is run on pda's with gps but no phone
like many of the mio pda's
if your using some PirateBay copy of Tomtom or Garmin then you need to check the tags. Raphael is not a smartphone it's a PPC.
Advanced config take off aGPS.
MoDaCo nodata.cab
otherwise get garmin i've had very few problems once i figured out how to copy my maps from my c550 to my phone.
whats the point of having a phone as powerful as the touch pro if you aren't gonna pay for a data plan? thats like a car with no gas
FatalCharade said:
whats the point of having a phone as powerful as the touch pro if you aren't gonna pay for a data plan? thats like a car with no gas
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albeit i do have a data plan, i debated it for a while when i realized i was spending 80-90 hours a week in the hospital which has wifi and so does the fuze....given the limited time out of wifi spots, i almost went without it.... but then chose to go with it for those times when i'm not in wifi spots...
Try Amaze Gps....turn by turn gps...and it doesnt use data....and best of all its free!!
amAze needs the user to have a data plan in order for it to operate. similar to google maps
Hello All,
OK, This will show you how out of the loop I am.
Purchased an HTC Touch Pro (via CL), phone to see how it would work as simply an GPS while riding the motorcycle all over creation this summer.
I was able to download Google maps(4.0) here at home & installed via WIFI. After installing I could not get any satellites to 'come in'. I enabled the phone part on the Touch,then the satellites (5) became available and did in fact show my location! I am not going to get an actual data plan for this phone FYI. My question is,were does the GPS satellites "come from"? I assume the only way this will function properly is to have an WIFI connection? That being said, how does the regular 'car gps's' get their signal driving down the road?
Is the gps radio signal independent of both the wifi & data signals, I guess is what I am asking? Why would I have had to enable the phone/ON for the satellites to show up,when I do not have a data plan? Maybe just an inherit setup for the gps radio,config?
Thanks,
Barry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System
you can use GPS for free, you don't need to have a wifi connection or any other data connection
accountabc,
Thanks for the link! I was 'hoping' this is how the gps thing shook down. I figured there would have to be a catch to were I would have to have a data plan on the U S Cellular enabled HTC Touch Pro. This is going to work out just as I had hoped! No GPS hanging off of the handlebars,being a target for thieves every time i get away from the bike!!!.
Suweeeet!!!
Now if I can read it while tooling around the switchbacks???,,,Yikes...
take Care,
Barry
accountabc,
I had a brilliant idea,to test the viability of my Google Maps working without an Data or WIFI connection. I unplugged my Access point here. Tried opening Google Maps on the HTC Touch Pro, and get the 'connecting' dialouge at the top right of GM's. It finally times out with saying" A data connection is required for this app". I tried going into the setting of the "external gps" and took off the 'automatically configure' and set the com ports several different ways to no avail.
This phone does have the latest ROM that U S Cellular provides. I may have to try and start hacking with some other ROM's to see if an 'unlocked' ROM may circumvent this problem? Although I have had this phone for almost two months I have just started getting acclimated with it ,the last 2 days.
I'll do some more searching here to see if someone does in fact have a workaround for this? It does seem the GPS radio should do the grunt work. I am just not sure about the Google Maps needed to be updated dynamically with a net connection?
Thanks again,
Barry
why not use something like garmin xt which doesn't require a data conenction since all the maps are on a sd card