I have been going back and forth between rltoday and HTC Home. I have issues with both and I like them both. I am currently running the HTC Home plugin.
rltoday Pros:
Highly configurable (if you have time)
very light weight
can use with the hidelogo cab
free
rltoday Cons:
limited user community (for my device)
unable to navigate with five-way
limited native functionality (additional scripts or 3rd party apps needed)
no weather plugin
HTC Home Pros:
Customizable (HTC Home Config)
multi-tabbed
built-in weather
built-in ringer profile selections (with HHC)
launch music player from today screen as well as see what's playing
built-in picture dialer
no 3rd party apps/scripts needed
free
HTC Home Cons:
unable to use hidelogo cab
weather plugin is limited (even with HHC)
profile selections don't always work
a. doesn't vibrate but is silent
b. when the meeting/event is over speaker is turned all the way down
when the clock is touched it launches the time/alarm settings (annoying)
So, what are you running on your today screen and why?
hey too bad nobody is answering to this i would love to know all the cool today plugins there is. Im running the HTC Home plugin and sometimes the cool Pointu interface.
How about you guys ?
I prefer the simple but elegant approach...until something really groundbreaking comes along :
TA Pro: controls LED, and gives quick stats and weather
GoodMobile Messaging Calendar and Mail (also displays sms count)
cLaunch: Three 2xtabs (each tab has 2 wrap rows) with my common apps. I've also modified cLaunch.dll to play nicer with the 240x240 display when in the settings area of the app.
Hidelogo to give a little more real estate
I've also replaced battery.exe with an HTC version that gives a better battery icon and little more display flexibility.
QuickMenu 2.7 to assist with app closing, hibernate, soft reset and additional menu browsing needs.
fTouchflo (last free version) for easier touch navigation
I've replaced the default tahoma.ttf with the one from my XP workstation for a smoother font appearance
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I really like throttle launcher as a replacement for cLaunch, but presently it takes up too much memory and is a little cumbersome to configure on the fly.
PointUI is promising, but needs better hooks into "Good" before I can use it, plus needs more customization options to allow me to get to what I need in a minimum of "clicks" - it's not presently able to give me what my present setup offers me.
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screen captures with PocketScreen" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328627
tmknight said:
I prefer the simple but elegant approach...until something really groundbreaking comes along :
TA Pro: controls LED, and gives quick stats and weather
GoodMobile Messaging Calendar and Mail (also displays sms count)
cLaunch: Three 2xtabs (each tab has 2 wrap rows) with my common apps. I've also modified cLaunch.dll to play nicer with the 240x240 display when in the settings area of the app.
Hidelogo to give a little more real estate
I've also replaced battery.exe with an HTC version that gives a better battery icon and little more display flexibility.
QuickMenu 2.7 to assist with app closing, hibernate, soft reset and additional menu browsing needs.
fTouchflo (last free version) for easier touch navigation
I've replaced the default tahoma.ttf with the one from my XP workstation for a smoother font appearance
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I really like throttle launcher as a replacement for cLaunch, but presently it takes up too much memory and is a little cumbersome to configure on the fly.
PointUI is promising, but needs better hooks into "Good" before I can use it, plus needs more customization options to allow me to get to what I need in a minimum of "clicks" - it's not presently able to give me what my present setup offers me.
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Any screenshots?
My Today screen is settled. I have finalized on HTC Home Plugin. No other plugins on the screen. You will notice that I have the bluetooth and the carrier information hid. This is accomplished with Memaid removing the "active call", and "lookup". This does make some additional challenges like the usage of the talk (green) and end (red buttons) as well as the ringer. These are easily overcome by registry changes. I also employed the HTC Home Customizer to make the background transparent and have the "Vista" icons. Music is being played on the device and only showing in the plug (not title bar) through the use of "wk Task". Also I have the battery icon on the today screen but on other apps the time is displayed. This is a result of HHC as well. You can have the time only always; I chose to have it only away from the Today screen. You will also notice that the left and right softkeys are different. Because I am using the standard Windows Mobile dialer, I can customize these keys. One goes to the mail/messaging and the other goes to my IM program. I am running WM6.1 Lite OS (ROM).
I intend to write a complete document on how to do these customizations. It can be frustrating looking for hours and days piecing things together. WinMob has been a lot more fun for me than Palm (former 650 user).
What other options are out there? Feel free to chime in.
Just added quick menu to the list. It is amazing!
Quickmenu
I have found that this application makes my Treo unresponsive. I noticed that after selecting the application, my phone seems to hang or be very slow. I have uninstalled it until I can figure what is making it unresponsive.
Quickmenu Issue
I have not encountered any performance issues (did you soft reset after install). Here are the settings I have employed:
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\Display]
"BatteryMode"=dword:00000003
"BkgndCacheMode"=dword:00000001
"BkgroundImage"=""
"BkgroundMode"=dword:00000001
"SelectionAlpha"=dword:00000099
"ShowAppIcon"=dword:00000000
"ShowTaskClose"=dword:00000001
"TextColorOnImage"=dword:00e0ffe0
"WindowLeft"=dword:00000060
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\Exclude]
"Count"=dword:00000006
"Item1"=">\\Windows\\wmplayer.exe"
"Item2"=">\\Program Files\\Navigator\\TomTom Navigator.exe"
"Item3"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\Total Commander\\cecmd.exe"
"Item4"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\RSA SecurID\\RSA_SecurID.exe"
"Item5"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\googlemaps\\googlemaps.exe"
"Item6"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\EsmertecJBed\\jbed.exe"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\General]
"AutoEndSyncTask"=dword:00000001
"AutoStart"=dword:00000001
"CacheImageIndex"=dword:00000001
"EnableXButton"=dword:00000000
"LongPressAppIconFunc"=dword:000003f9
"OkKeyEndTask"=dword:00000001
"RegisterHomeKey"=dword:00000001
"ReplaceStartMenu"=dword:00000001
"RightArrowEndTask"=dword:00000001
"TEditWhenEditing"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\MenuItems]
"CustomProgramFolder"=""
"CustomProgramMenu"=dword:00000000
"SubItems"=hex:\
1a,04,00,01,24,04,00,01,2e,04,00,01
"TopItems"=hex:\
00,04,01,00,fd,03,01,01,00,00,00,00,d0,07,01,01,00,00,00,00,02,04,01,00,fc,\
03,00,00,00,00,00,00,06,04,01,01,01,04,01,01,f2,03,01,00,00,00,00,00
Well my today screen is running SPB Mobile Shell 2.
Version 2 looks real nice and has some cool animations too.
lew, i sent you a pm, id love to get rid of palm dialer and the att/bt logos while keeping red/green button functionality.
I got what I need installed (memmaid, total commander) i just dont know what to do.
what registry settings did you use to get the green and red phone keys functional again after disabling the carrier/bluetooth icons?
Green/Red Button Functionality
Use the following steps to remove the carrier info/bluetooth logo and still use the green/red buttons.
I got rid of the carrier info by way of the removal of "Active Call" and "Dial Lookup" startup items. These were removed using MemMaid. At this point the device will revert to the WinMob dialer. Pressing the green button will launch the dialer and pressing the red button will cause it to go away. However pressing the red button will NOT end a call. You have to press the "End" button on the screen or hangup via your BT device button.
You will need to change the service called "VOL0" to "manual" (MemMaid again).
You will no longer be able to select your ringer in the standard way. You will need to make the change in the registry. HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds is where the change is made. The entries PlmORingTone1, 2 and 3 are the entries for Known Unknown and Roaming calls. You will have to copy and paste (and over-write) the entries from there to "RingTone0", 2 and "RoamingRing0". PlmORingTone1 and RingTone0 are for "Known"callers. You will have to make this change every time you want the ringtone to be different. These steps are not necessary for changing the ringtone of a contact.
You need to remap the device keys. (Backup your device OR copy the values down BEFORE you make any changes if you want to go back!!) Make the following changes in the registry. In HKLM\Security\Phone change the Charmap to "ertdfgxcvzubo" and the Keymap to "ERTDFGXCVZUBO". In HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin change Enabled to "0".
Reset the device
NOTE: These changes are only necessary if you want to use the standard WM6(.1) dialer. Original Values for the Charmap and Keymap entries
Charmap "ertdfgcvbyuio"
Keymap: "ERTDFGCVBYUIO"
Thanks to jcbarren at TreoCentral http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=148000
Quick Menu
tmknight said:
I have not encountered any performance issues (did you soft reset after install). Here are the settings I have employed:
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\Display]
"BatteryMode"=dword:00000003
"BkgndCacheMode"=dword:00000001
"BkgroundImage"=""
"BkgroundMode"=dword:00000001
"SelectionAlpha"=dword:00000099
"ShowAppIcon"=dword:00000000
"ShowTaskClose"=dword:00000001
"TextColorOnImage"=dword:00e0ffe0
"WindowLeft"=dword:00000060
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\Exclude]
"Count"=dword:00000006
"Item1"=">\\Windows\\wmplayer.exe"
"Item2"=">\\Program Files\\Navigator\\TomTom Navigator.exe"
"Item3"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\Total Commander\\cecmd.exe"
"Item4"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\RSA SecurID\\RSA_SecurID.exe"
"Item5"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\googlemaps\\googlemaps.exe"
"Item6"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\EsmertecJBed\\jbed.exe"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\General]
"AutoEndSyncTask"=dword:00000001
"AutoStart"=dword:00000001
"CacheImageIndex"=dword:00000001
"EnableXButton"=dword:00000000
"LongPressAppIconFunc"=dword:000003f9
"OkKeyEndTask"=dword:00000001
"RegisterHomeKey"=dword:00000001
"ReplaceStartMenu"=dword:00000001
"RightArrowEndTask"=dword:00000001
"TEditWhenEditing"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\MenuItems]
"CustomProgramFolder"=""
"CustomProgramMenu"=dword:00000000
"SubItems"=hex:\
1a,04,00,01,24,04,00,01,2e,04,00,01
"TopItems"=hex:\
00,04,01,00,fd,03,01,01,00,00,00,00,d0,07,01,01,00,00,00,00,02,04,01,00,fc,\
03,00,00,00,00,00,00,06,04,01,01,01,04,01,01,f2,03,01,00,00,00,00,00
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Did you install this or did you unzip and launch it? I didn't find an installer (or cab). I will launch it again and reset the device and see if it works.
mobilelew said:
Use the following steps to remove the carrier info/bluetooth logo and still use the green/red buttons.
I got rid of the carrier info by way of the removal of "Active Call" and "Dial Lookup" startup items. These were removed using MemMaid. At this point the device will revert to the WinMob dialer. Pressing the green button will launch the dialer and pressing the red button will cause it to go away. However pressing the red button will NOT end a call. You have to press the "End" button on the screen or hangup via your BT device button.
You will need to change the service called "VOL0" to "manual" (MemMaid again).
You will no longer be able to select your ringer in the standard way. You will need to make the change in the registry. HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds is where the change is made. The entries PlmORingTone1, 2 and 3 are the entries for Known Unknown and Roaming calls. You will have to copy and paste (and over-write) the entries from there to "RingTone0", 2 and "RoamingRing0". PlmORingTone1 and RingTone0 are for "Known"callers. You will have to make this change every time you want the ringtone to be different. These steps are not necessary for changing the ringtone of a contact.
You need to remap the device keys. (Backup your device OR copy the values down BEFORE you make any changes if you want to go back!!) Make the following changes in the registry. In HKLM\Security\Phone change the Charmap to "ertdfgxcvzubo" and the Keymap to "ERTDFGXCVZUBO". In HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin change Enabled to "0".
Reset the device
NOTE: These changes are only necessary if you want to use the standard WM6(.1) dialer. Original Values for the Charmap and Keymap entries
Charmap "ertdfgcvbyuio"
Keymap: "ERTDFGCVBYUIO"
Thanks to jcbarren at TreoCentral http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=148000
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Thanks for the tutorial, but now the red key no longer turns off the screen. Any ideas
Red Button No Longer Turns Off Screen
I too have the same problem with the red button. To aleviate this I have created a button shortcut that allows me to lock the phone by pressing one button. Using QuickMenu, in the options, on the command tab, choose lock from the list and click on create shortcut. You can now assign a button to this to lock the phone. I choose the OK button. So if I press and hold OK, my phone will lock.
By the way, the issue that I was having with QuickMenu was a conflict with CTRL-Pro. After removing it I am now able to use QuickMenu without any problems.
mobilelew said:
Use the following steps to remove the carrier info/bluetooth logo and still use the green/red buttons.
I got rid of the carrier info by way of the removal of "Active Call" and "Dial Lookup" startup items. These were removed using MemMaid. At this point the device will revert to the WinMob dialer. Pressing the green button will launch the dialer and pressing the red button will cause it to go away. However pressing the red button will NOT end a call. You have to press the "End" button on the screen or hangup via your BT device button.
You will need to change the service called "VOL0" to "manual" (MemMaid again).
You will no longer be able to select your ringer in the standard way. You will need to make the change in the registry. HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds is where the change is made. The entries PlmORingTone1, 2 and 3 are the entries for Known Unknown and Roaming calls. You will have to copy and paste (and over-write) the entries from there to "RingTone0", 2 and "RoamingRing0". PlmORingTone1 and RingTone0 are for "Known"callers. You will have to make this change every time you want the ringtone to be different. These steps are not necessary for changing the ringtone of a contact.
You need to remap the device keys. (Backup your device OR copy the values down BEFORE you make any changes if you want to go back!!) Make the following changes in the registry. In HKLM\Security\Phone change the Charmap to "ertdfgxcvzubo" and the Keymap to "ERTDFGXCVZUBO". In HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin change Enabled to "0".
Reset the device
NOTE: These changes are only necessary if you want to use the standard WM6(.1) dialer. Original Values for the Charmap and Keymap entries
Charmap "ertdfgcvbyuio"
Keymap: "ERTDFGCVBYUIO"
Thanks to jcbarren at TreoCentral http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=148000
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why not use the "hidelogo.cab" floating around and be done with it? Never had an issue with any soft or hard buttons.
mobilelew said:
Did you install this or did you unzip and launch it? I didn't find an installer (or cab). I will launch it again and reset the device and see if it works.
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I use the executable and DLL's from http://www.alensw.com/attachment/QuickMenu_2.7.rar
I extract to ExtROM and create a shortcut to the EXE in windows\startup.
All the settings are stored in the registry, use total commander or your preferred flavor of reg reader to import/export for backup/restore purposes.
Cheers
why not use the "hidelogo.cab"
The hidelogo.cab causes a reset loop with the HTC Home plugin.
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Here is my home screen. Running WM6.1 Regular Version.
paypalbid said:
Here is my home screen. Running WM6.1 Regular Version.
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What are you using to put the icons on the screen?
mobilelew said:
The hidelogo.cab causes a reset loop with the HTC Home plugin.
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Yes, yes it does - good luck!
I have tried a number of different jblend and jbed versions to launch java games on my touch dual. Almost all of them either produced errors, didnt launch or install the java files. I finally found one that worked which was a version of jbed called JRebeiro Esmertec Jbed which has a build ID: 20071119.3.1. This one launched all the java files perfectly.....
However, the only problem now is that I can't use the soft keys! I can use the D-pad and the keypad (numbers) to navigate through the menus, but the left/right soft keys don't work. For example, if I run Need for speed pro street, the first option is whether or not to enable sound. The 'yes' and 'no' icons show, but I cant select either soft key so I cant continue!!
I tried searching the forum and read through the whole 'midlet bible' thing but didnt find anything conclusive!
Does anyone know a solution? or even a midlet manager that has the soft keys working?
fl4r3 said:
I have tried a number of different jblend and jbed versions to launch java games on my touch dual. Almost all of them either produced errors, didnt launch or install the java files. I finally found one that worked which was a version of jbed called JRebeiro Esmertec Jbed which has a build ID: 20071119.3.1. This one launched all the java files perfectly.....
However, the only problem now is that I can't use the soft keys! I can use the D-pad and the keypad (numbers) to navigate through the menus, but the left/right soft keys don't work. For example, if I run Need for speed pro street, the first option is whether or not to enable sound. The 'yes' and 'no' icons show, but I cant select either soft key so I cant continue!!
I tried searching the forum and read through the whole 'midlet bible' thing but didnt find anything conclusive!
Does anyone know a solution? or even a midlet manager that has the soft keys working?
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Strange, in my 3.1 copy (did you use the same as me? http://www.winmobiletech.com/092007MidletBible/JRebeiro_EsmertecJbed_20071119.3.1.zip ) works just great on my (several) Pocket PC's.
If it doesn't work at all, get Cloudyfa's 2.1: http://www.winmobiletech.com/092007MidletBible/Jbed.zip
First of all, thanks for the reply.
I had the same versions as you just showed and I had also previously tried Cloudyfa's version too. I tried out the ones you posted anyway just to be safe but I had the same problem on both...no soft keys. (BTW, The soft key buttons on screen work in the Jbed main screen, its just when I launch a java game that I cant select or use the soft keys).
What buttons do you use as the soft keys?
The only buttons left on my touch dual apart from the number pad is the start and end call buttons, the navigation/D pad, the volume up and down keys and the camera button. Only the navigation/d-pad buttons seem to when I launch a game in Jbed, but the other keys function as normal (if i press the call button, the phone dialer appears, or if i press the camera button, it launches the camera).
So are the soft key buttons on the touchscreen (icons shown on the touchscreen) meant to work? Or is the touch dual lacking the necessary buttons?
fl4r3 said:
First of all, thanks for the reply.
I had the same versions as you just showed and I had also previously tried Cloudyfa's version too. I tried out the ones you posted anyway just to be safe but I had the same problem on both...no soft keys. (BTW, The soft key buttons on screen work in the Jbed main screen, its just when I launch a java game that I cant select or use the soft keys).
What buttons do you use as the soft keys?
The only buttons left on my touch dual apart from the number pad is the start and end call buttons, the navigation/D pad, the volume up and down keys and the camera button. Only the navigation/d-pad buttons seem to when I launch a game in Jbed, but the other keys function as normal (if i press the call button, the phone dialer appears, or if i press the camera button, it launches the camera).
So are the soft key buttons on the touchscreen (icons shown on the touchscreen) meant to work? Or is the touch dual lacking the necessary buttons?
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oic. I've always used hardware buttons; no wonder in-game softkeys don't work (they aren't supposed to).
use a button redefiner; for example, AEBPlus, to map left/right softkey functionality to the existing buttons (for example, Camera)
Thanks for that. I finally solved it!
I went and got AEBplus like you said and I noticed it showed the left and right soft keys eventhough there arent any on the touch dual. Then I went to check the actual buttons option in the windows setting tab and found that I can map some of the shortcut buttons as left/right soft keys! Everything works perfectly now. Just got to find the right buttons to map the left/right soft keys.
Finally solved that problem! I'm surprised no one mentioned this anywhere else.....probably because its a touch dual specific problem.
other jbed issue
i haven't had any problems with softkeys but i am having an issue with sound. if i dont disable sound the program crashes. i've tried several versions of jbed. im using moto q. any suggestions or fixes?
goodst0ry said:
i haven't had any problems with softkeys but i am having an issue with sound. if i dont disable sound the program crashes. i've tried several versions of jbed. im using moto q. any suggestions or fixes?
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must be a moto q-specific issue - i haven't encountered anything like this on my Smartphones
Vibration Jbed Dont work
How to assign numpad values to play java games?
some games like gangster and prince of persia needs the nampad values 0 and 1 etc., how can it played in jbed in ppc wm5(dopod 818 pro 195mhz omap processor full touch and no qwerty keyboard)
please help me ... adavance thanks...