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Newby question - MMS and GPRS

Hello all,
I was wondering, in order to receive an MMS message, do I have to turn on GPRS communication, or is it automatically switched on upon receiving an MMS message?

It has to be configured on your device, GPRS and MMS that is, and it also has to be acivated by your network. I was trying to get my GPRS working and couldn't work out why it wasn't until I finally spoke to someone at O2 who had a vague idea of what they were doing and said new customers had to request activation of GPRS!

i get mms wihtout having turned grps on at the time
but when i open the msg then it connect to the network using grps
and get the mms pic, movie, sound or what ever

Ah, that clarifies!
Thanks for your replies!
With regards,
Thumper

a bit more clarification ... the MMS platform sends a special SMS to the phone (xda or other) ... if the phone is equiped for MMS the proper application (ex: MMS Composer or EZWAP 2.5) will start and it will connect through GPRS ... this requires also to have the device and the dial registered on the MMS platform .... otherwise a normal SMS will be displayed containing a URL to download the MMS from any web browser.

My GPRS connection works fine, I can browse the Internet with IE. But when I try to send a photo message (MMS), I get "Cannot connet". Does anyone know why?

if you put in the right
Server name
Gateway
and
server address
in mms composer
and you have made them turn on mms in their end (the cellphone company)
and some people need to make a new grps connections with another access point (often mms)
then i dont know

They sent me a text message that automatically entered the details in MMS composer for me (server name, server address and gateway). I found the new details there when I checked. Because I called them to activate the service (and so they sent me the text message), I'm assuming it's active from their end. I'm not aware of a different GPRS connection I should be using. There are already three connections set up: WAP CSD, WAP GPRS and Internet GPRS. Takker ellers for tilbagemelding.

arrrg.....mms cannot be had.

First off let me say ive searched this site high and low and tried almost every .cab ive found and followed plenty of setup instructions but still for the life of me cannot get MMS to work. email i get no problems sending texts i get no problems. but no MMS , and i think ive tried everything on this site.... im running Farias WM6 rom , and love it.
I had MMS working on the phone before i had to reflash beacuse i updated a radio rom and it almost bricked it.... so i followed all the instructions again just like usual and reflashed the downgrade rom and then upgraded to farias. I just dont remember what it was i did to get MMS working before
If someone could help me out it would be much appreciated.....
Maybe we could start a sticky entitled " How to get your MMS back after flashing "
Thanks in advance guys.

You have absolutely no MMS? You cannot receive or send MMS? Who's your carrier?

kegobeer said:
You have absolutely no MMS? You cannot receive or send MMS? Who's your carrier?
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Yea , no MMS at all......
cant recieve or send.....
I had it working on the Faria rom before i had to reflash.....
all i keep getting is " error syncronizing " everytime i try to hit " send/recieve"

I had the same issue, go under the MMS settings, then goto server, select Cingular MMS or whoever your carrier is, mine wascingular, and then set it to the default and delete the one named default
If there is not other one besides deafault, then you need to ask your provider for your settings and add it.
hope this helps

This might be helpful to others , but i tried it still no worky for me.
stolen from " Jon " on howard forums
Ah! This sorta illustrates the problem. I had mentioned that I couldn't seem to send MMS, although I *could* browse the web via GPRS.
Well...I spent some time on the phone with T-Mobile "PDA Support" and finally have this figured out! There's been talk here about using the two different APN's available to T-Mobile Internet customers for WAP and MMS versus regular website browsing.
When I spoke with T-Mobile PDA Support, I was told a few things:
1) they've had some network problems that aren't 100% resolved that could be messing up our ability to browse the net, consistently get EDGE speeds, or send MMS messages.
2) MMS is supposed to be sent over their WAP gateway, so for this, you should use "wap.voicestream.com" as your APN.
3) Web browsing for full HTML web pages is supposed to be done over their non-protocol-restricted internet gateway, so for this, you should specify "internet2.voicestream.com" as the APN.
I did some experimenting, and it seems that I cannot send MMS when I connect via "internet2.voicestream.com", and I cannot browse the web when I connect via "wap.voicestream.com". But, as the gentleman from T-Mobile PDA Support suggested, when I chose the APN appropriate to the task, I succeeded. I tried this several times with consistent results.
I think I saw some discussion here about manually selecting the GPRS connection each time so you get the right gateway. But with a bit of configuration work up front, you can make this work automatically. Here's how:
The essence of the solution is that you should have TWO different connection setting groups - one for Internet Browsing and email, and one for MMS. Then, you can have the first one automatically invoked when your application tries to connect to the Internet, and you can have the MMS application automatically select the second connection group when it's trying to send an MMS message.
So -- Most, if not all, of you have a connection group named "T-Mobile GPRS". To examine it, click on:
Start / Settings / Connections and then tap the Connections icon. With the Tasks tab selected, you should see two connection groups listed, along with three choices under each one for tasks you can perform.
Under the connection group named "T-Mobile GPRS", click "Manage existing connections" -- you should be on the "Modem" tab -- if not, select it now.
This page shows a table in which you can list various network connections that this connection group can use to send and receive data. Since it seems that the three APNs that we know about are special purpose (one for WAP/MMS, one for Internet, one for VPN), it does NOT make sense to mix them here and let WM5 try to figure out which is best to use -- you will wind up with inconsistent results (i.e., works sometimes, but not others, seemingly at random).
Instead, since this "T-Mobile GPRS" connection group is for Internet browsing, the one and only connection you want to specify here is one that will use the "internet2" APN.
But first, click on the "Proxy Settings" tab below, and just click the box labeled, "This network connects to the Internet", and make sure the other boxes on the pages are blank (no proxy server specified here!). When you're done, select the "Modem" tab again (you might have to minimize the keyboard display at the bottom to see the tabs).
If you don't have a data connection yet that uses the internet2 APN, you can click on "New", then give it a descriptive name (such as "Internet connection"), select "Cellular Line (GPRS)" as the modem, click "Next", and input "internet2.voicestream.com" as the APN, click "Next" again, leave the user name, password and domain all blank and click "finish".
Click "ok" at the top a couple of times and you should be done with the connection group that gets you to the Internet.
Now - we'll create a separate connection group for MMS:
Go back into "Start / Settings / Connections" and tap the "Connections" icon again. You're back at the "Connections" screen that lists your two most recently defined "connection groups" -- the top one should be "T-Mobile GPRS" since we just worked on it. Click on "Add a new modem connection". Even though this line appears under "T-Mobile GPRS", you'll actually be creating a new and separate connection group.
You'll see a screen entitled, "Make a New Connection". Give it a meaningful name -- I chose "WAP connection". Select "Cellular Line (GPRS)" as the modem, and click "Next". This time, under Access Point Name, specify "wap.voicestream.com". Click next and make sure on the "My Connection" screen that user, password and domain are blank, then click "Finish".
You will now have separate connection groups for Internet Access and for MMS tranmission.
The next step is what makes this work automatically. Close all the windows until you're at the "today" screen again. Click "Start" and then "Messaging". If you don't see "MMS" at the top left of the screen, click the "Menu" button at the lower right, click on "Switch Accounts" and select "MMS".
Click "Menu" again, and then click "MMS Configuration...". You'll see three tabs: "Preferences", "Servers" and "About".
The preferences tab has non-critical choices that you should set to meet your own needs.
On the Servers tab, you should see a single server listed, "T-Mobile MMS" -- this was installed by one of the T-Mobile customizations when you first booted up your MDA. Click on this , and you'll see a screen that details the configurat ion of this server. Here's what you want in the config:
Server Name: non-critical, T-Mobile named it, "T-Mobile MMS", so you should probably leave it at that.
Gateway: 216.155.165.50
Port Number: 8080
Server address: http://215.155.174.84/servlets/mms
...and HERE is where we tell it to automatically switch to our network connection that was set up for MMS:
Where it says, "Connect via:", the default that T-Mobile put in was your old "T-Mobile GPRS" connection. Instead, I clicked the drop-down arrow and selected the new connection that we created way up above that references the "wap.voicestream.com" APN, called something like "MMS Connection".
Sending size limitation as locked at 292k. WAP Version defaults to 2.0, but you can drop it down to 1.2 if you have some reason to do this (I don't).
Once this is all set right, click "OK", and "ok" your way back out of the messaging application.
Now you're ready for a test:
There are many way to initiate an MMS. However you do it, when it starts up, you should see it connecting to GPRS via your "MMS Connection", it will then send your MMS and disconnect from GPRS again after a bit.
Open up PIE again and select a website, and this time you'll see GPRS connecting via your first connection group -- the one that uses "internet2.voicestream.com" as the APN.
You can go back and forth several times -- this setup will select the correct network connection group each time, and work.
The ONLY issue I've seen with this is the following:
If your GPRS connection for one type of activity is still connected when you try launching the other service, it doesn't seem smart enough to force the old connection to disconnect first. So...if your old connection hasn't time out yet, you may have to click on the "G" icon (top of your today screen) and select "disconnect" before starting your other activity. But that's it -- aside from this, all the APN switching is automatic -- and works perfectly.
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ok now im able to send but when it gets to 99% i get a message
" gateway + timeout "
and the message isnt sent

Data Cab
Maybe this is the post you are looking for?
Tmo MMS fix from this thread Receiving TINY Picture Messages!
I have found google search is the best way to search xda-developers.
Just type your search item followed by
site:xda-developers.com
Exp. [tmo mms cabs site:xda-developers.com]
Peace

sYnOnYx said:
ok now im able to send but when it gets to 99% i get a message
" gateway + timeout "
and the message isnt sent
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sounds like what ever your server settings are, your gateway setting is wrong.

gdribot said:
Maybe this is the post you are looking for?
Tmo MMS fix from this thread Receiving TINY Picture Messages!
I have found google search is the best way to search xda-developers.
Just type your search item followed by
site:xda-developers.com
Exp. [tmo mms cabs site:xda-developers.com]
Peace
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Ive tried it 2x already and no worky.......
and now im back to " error syncronizing "
*siigh*

Now its connecting up again , and it connects to (edge) Tmo MMS
but it gets to 66% sent on the status and i get
" next hop connection failed "
Someone just texed me and said " nice pic " so i guess it worked ??
not holding my breath just yet, but praying !

*sigh* *arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggg*
now its just connects and disconnects.........
Here are my settings tell me if something is wrong :
Under my MMS configuration ( found from the messaging menu )
Servers :
Sever name : T-mobile MMS
Gateway : 216.155.165.50
Port number : 8080
Sever Address : Http://215.155.174.84/servlets/mms
Connect VIA : T-mobile MMS
And
Settings > Connections > connections Icon
Tmobile MMS then under " manage existing connections "
Name : T-mobile MMS
Select a modem : Cellular line (GPRS)
Access Point name : wap.voicestream.com
Username : blank ( ive tried imputting tmobile in there and nothing still )
password: blank ( ive tried imputting tmobile in there and nothing still )
domain : blank
In the advanced tab under TCP/IP :" use server IP address is selected " and
nothing else is.
under servers on the advanced tab " use server-assigned addresses " is only selected.
any clues ?

back to the "Gateway+timeout" error.... sigh...

i dont know what the hell i did , but its sending messages now.........
still havent recieved one tho.
i think im gonna have to do a writeup tho.

Do you use wifi? When wifi is on my MMS doesn't work.

Did you ever figure out what was happening. I'm having a similar problem. As far as I can tell all the setting you listed above are correct, and I have mine set the same. When I try to send a message it hangs at 87% and never completes. Once it ran up to 99% then I got the "Gateway Timeout" error.

What version of the ARCSoft MMS client are you using?
I cannot get it to send or connect at all unless I use one of the CABs for the settings floating around - then it works, but that causes other NASTY side effects on WM6.

Just the one that came with the rom that I loaded, [02/Nov/2007] TNT.1933, ArcSoft 4.2.8.1 with plug-in and full features. The settings seem to connect, the message just won't complete sending.

I'm not able to get it to connect unless I use the T-Mobile CAB (manually configuring does NOT work) and that breaks data connections when on sync.

NEW Touch Pro - Cant view DATA..?

Hi Guys, just receivied my NEW HTC Touch Pro and I must say... WOW! Was very surprised on how small it was. Anyway, put my SIM in (AT&T US) and charged the battery... Powered it up... It decovered my AT&T service and calls & text messages have NOT been a problem however, it says I am connected to EDGE for DATA but for some reason every time I try to set up my exchange, or surf the web under opera it will show the edge symbol connecting and it does get connected but I receive an error under both active sync and opera. IE will try to load a page and just and it will say it is opening the page but then just stop loading with a blank white screen. Could this be a proxy thing..? Has anyone seen or experienced this? I am using the stock ROM from the unlocked unit.
UPDATE: Sorry about that guys... I had to disable the proxy and I know that AT&T had proxy issues in the past but I thought I would need to configue it first in order for the DATA to work. All I did was uncheck the proxy for internet. By unchecking this, does anything else work or not work..?

go the connections tab in settings -> then Connections -> Advance -> Select Networks then on the first dropdown box make sure there is selected a connection that allows a connection to the internet without filtering ports (eg WAP connections filter most ports)
if this does not do any good it may be something with the proxies but there i don't know how to help

Funny, after I disabled the proxy (unchecked proxy for internet) I was able to get DATA thru active sync, youtube, internet, etc... but I still can NOT get the MMS to work. All the MMS settings under the server settings for MMS are correct and it will get to 100% but then just put the message in the out box. It will try to send 2 more times and then I will get an error message that says: Forbidden. Same thing when I try to receive MMS's. I can see the header for the MMS but can't d/l it. Anyone manage to get MMS working in the US..? I did try to configure the proxy under connections but as soon as I check the proxy tab, all data shuts down.

any suggestions? help? WM 6.1

Hi,
I have a Wizard that I used to have TNT installed on. I recently installed the Hornet 5 ROM. Now I am having a problem, that I experienced with both roms. I have ATT, and when I try to send a text message, if I have a E icon on top of my screen for edge, the texts go through perfectly. If I have a G icon on top of my screen for GPRS, I instantly get an error EXACTLY when I press send for the text and it says Your Message could not be sent. Click here to try again. It happens everytime there is a G for GPRS. I've set my text settings to work for GSM, I've also tried the GPRS option for texts, but I get the same results everytime. This is very frustrating because I don't have Edge in all of my city and I can't send texts a lot of the times. Any suggestions?

I've had problems using the canned programs to setup the network settings for at&t. When they try to run, I cancel them and set up myself. Here's what I would do.
1) Delete and existing connections. Start>>Settings>>Connections>>Connections. Under My ISP menu. Manage existing connections, tap & hold, then delete any connections on the list.
2) Add a new modem connection, which is under My ISP menu.
Name: whatever you want
Modem: Cellular Line (GPRS)
Access point name: wap.cingular
User Name: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
Domain: Leave Blank
Click on Advanced: TCP/IP & Servers should both be checked for "Use server-assigned"
Hope this works for you. This is how manually set up for att after ever new rom I install.

Will give it a shot
Hi,
Thanks, I am going to give this a try now.

HTC Fuze Auto Logon to MEdia Net

At start up, and before TouchFlo 3D loads, I get a message that prompts me to input the password (CINGULAR1) to "Logon to Server"...the Resource is listed as Media Net, and the User ID is listed as [email protected]. I've created a new connection (i.e. My ISP) and set it as default, but the phone still wants to logon to Media Net at start up, however after it is up and running, and I establish a data connection, the phone uses "My ISP" as supposed to Media Net. It is somewhat frustrating to get the "Logon to Server" prompt everytime I turn my phone on, and even if I enter the password (CINGULAR1) and check the box to "Remember the Password", next time I turn off/on the phone it prompts me again. This happens whether or not I select Media Net as the default data connection. Any ideas?

humanoide said:
At start up, and before TouchFlo 3D loads, I get a message that prompts me to input the password (CINGULAR1) to "Logon to Server"...the Resource is listed as Media Net, and the User ID is listed as [email protected]. I've created a new connection (i.e. My ISP) and set it as default, but the phone still wants to logon to Media Net at start up, however after it is up and running, and I establish a data connection, the phone uses "My ISP" as supposed to Media Net. It is somewhat frustrating to get the "Logon to Server" prompt everytime I turn my phone on, and even if I enter the password (CINGULAR1) and check the box to "Remember the Password", next time I turn off/on the phone it prompts me again. This happens whether or not I select Media Net as the default data connection. Any ideas?
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Are you using the stock rom that came with your phone? have you changed any settings?

i get this too and i have the stock fuze rom without any adjustments to connection settings or anything...
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humanoide said:
At start up, and before TouchFlo 3D loads, I get a message that prompts me to input the password (CINGULAR1) to "Logon to Server"...the Resource is listed as Media Net, and the User ID is listed as [email protected]. I've created a new connection (i.e. My ISP) and set it as default, but the phone still wants to logon to Media Net at start up, however after it is up and running, and I establish a data connection, the phone uses "My ISP" as supposed to Media Net. It is somewhat frustrating to get the "Logon to Server" prompt everytime I turn my phone on, and even if I enter the password (CINGULAR1) and check the box to "Remember the Password", next time I turn off/on the phone it prompts me again. This happens whether or not I select Media Net as the default data connection. Any ideas?
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This happened to me. I ended up going into the settings and removing the user name and password for MediaNet. After doing that, I don't have the problem.

Bingo, that did it...removed user name and password from MEdia Net in Settings/Connections. Thanks.

guys how can i get media net back on my phone? i put the ROMeOS os on my phone and i cant go to the mobile version mymedianet home. so i can view my movie theatres and stuff. thanks!

anyone help please?

ACMilan07 said:
guys how can i get media net back on my phone? i put the ROMeOS os on my phone and i cant go to the mobile version mymedianet home. so i can view my movie theatres and stuff. thanks!
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start, settings, connections tab, connections, advanced tab, select networks, new, general tab add media net as name,
modem tab:
new, enter media net as name cellular line gprs as modem, next, access point:
wap.cingular
netx, user name and pass blank, finish.
proxy settings tab, check both, network connect to internet and uses a proxy, advanced
add the proxy:
click http server: wireless.cingular.com port 80, no user or pass
socks server: localhost port 1080, no user or pass
ok, ok. ok, ok, x and test

im using proven rom and its been working fine but today my internet no longer works with my isp at all
and media net connection works with opera and checking weather in TF3D along with sending pic msgs but wont work with skyfire, email or other data programs
what could cause this?!?

imtribble said:
This happened to me. I ended up going into the settings and removing the user name and password for MediaNet. After doing that, I don't have the problem.
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Yeah but can you still send MMS?
I couldn't send MMS. ATT Tech told me to go and re-sign-up @ MYMedia.net (even though all worked fine on my Tilt and 8525 for the last 2 years). Once I re-registered, I could send MMS, but I still have to sign-in when the phone was power cycled or re-booted.

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Yeah but can you still send MMS?
I couldn't send MMS. ATT Tech told me to go and re-sign-up @ MYMedia.net (even though all worked fine on my Tilt and 8525 for the last 2 years). Once I re-registered, I could send MMS, but I still have to sign-in when the phone was power cycled or re-booted.
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So, what is the solution?