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Anyone into watching YouTube videos knows it has always been pretty problematic to play YouTube videos on Windows Mobile. This has also been explained in my related article Playing Flash Video (FLV) files on the Pocket PC - is it possible?.
The built-in PIE / IEM, because of the very bad JavaScript support, has always been unable to play them back and it was only lately that Opera Mobile (as of the first beta of 8.65) and NetFront (as of TP 3.4 007 released early June, 2007) received YouTube support.
These solutions are really sub-par, particularly that of NetFront, which has a comparatively slow Flash plug-in.
This means, so far, the best way to watch YouTube videos was relying on external, Web-based convertor services listed in my earlier all-in-one article on playing back YouTube videos. These convertor services, unfortunately, need a lot of additional work and, in general, result in files that are (much) larger and/or of (much) lower quality than the original YouTube videos.
TCPMP Plugin for Flash Video on PPC for the rescue! It provides a VERY fast (MUCH faster than even Opera Mobile’s playback, let alone the far inferior YouTube support in the latest NetFront beta) and, what is more, conversion-less (meaning no additional bandwidth / quality loss because of the conversion) solution. What is more, it’s FREE, as is TCPMP itself, and runs on both Pocket PC’s and, with some restrictions, touch screen-less Smartphones.
In the following, I explain how it should be used.
1. download the latest (currently: 0.3) version from HERE and, of course, TCPMP (either the PPC (tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab) or the Smartphone (tcpmp.smartphone.0.72RC1.cab) version).
Extract all the files from the tcpmpflvplugin ZIP file, (currently) tcpmpflvplugin-v0.3.zip, player and, after installing TCPMP, copy the two .plg files in the home of TCPMP (\Storage Card\Program Files\TCPMP when installed on the only storage card under WM5+ etc.).
Copy YouTubeDownload.exe anywhere on your handheld; for example, \Windows\Start Menu\Programs (it’s very small so you can even store it in the main storage)
2. in order to see a video, fire up a Web browser and go to YouTube. When you are on a page you’d like to see the video of, in the address bar, highlight the last part of the URL (the one after the ?v=) as can be seen in HERE. Copy this to the clipboard by tap-and-holding the selection and selecting Copy in the menu:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Here, I’ve copied the ‘x4arSJCWwpk’ parameter of the URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4arSJCWwpk .
3. Now, fire up YouTubeDownload.exe, (after selecting the right target directory) tap-and-hold the “Video ID:” field and select Paste in the drop-down context menu. Now, click Start. The video will be downloaded to the target directory:
Note that the downloader utility is incompatible with the MS Smartphone (WM6 Standard) operating system. First, it doesn’t support focus transfer with D-pad / the Tab key (it’s been written for WM2003) – it’s only with a cursor emulator like SPHelper hat you can traverse the focus as can be seen HERE. However, it won’t be of help as the app won’t be able to connect to YouTube as can be seen in HERE (tested this on my HTC Vox / s710 several times). I really hope the author of YouTubeDownload.exe will soon fix this problem so that Smartphone users can also download any YouTube clips. Until then, you’ll need to rely on files downloaded in other ways.
Also note that version 0.2 is the only version to offer a desktop-based (x86) downloader tool (as opposed to what the developer states). It, however, wasn’t able to download anything on my desktop when I’ve tried. That is, you’ll need to download directly onto your Pocket PC.
4. Then, fire up TCPMP and select the given file (File / Open File):
Now, it’ll be played back:
(same on the MS Smartphone operating system)
It’s very important that you can NOT invoke directly video playback from any Windows Mobile Web browsers – you will ALWAYS need to manually download the videos, manually switch to TCPMP and manually load it for playback.
It’s also worth knowing that the plug-in does NOT work with CorePlayer, the commercial descendant of TCPMP.
Related talk
Note that these threads are FULL of misinformation. It’s worth checking them out but don’t necessarily believe what you read in there.
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My TCPMP player will not play the downloaded file when i go to open it ,it does not have the tcpmp symbol on the paper what do i do . If does not see flv files, what do i do ?
very nice.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309428
and have you noticed that youtube player2.swf has changed and all the software we used to download clips refuse to work now?
ben2684 said:
My TCPMP player will not play the downloaded file when i go to open it ,it does not have the tcpmp symbol on the paper what do i do . If does not see flv files, what do i do ?
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did you install the two plg files,a dn did you restart TCPMP?
i get failed to contact errors sometimes and sometimes it works....actually rarely it works. any suggestions. all other connections work push, rss, xm, sirius, etc.
donsaxena said:
i get failed to contact errors sometimes and sometimes it works....actually rarely it works. any suggestions. all other connections work push, rss, xm, sirius, etc.
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I think you need to live with that
working nicely for me!!!
thanks for the great tool!
What is your average download time. I am downloading a 10795KB video and it's taking over ten minutes.
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What is your average download time. I am downloading a 10795KB video and it's taking over ten minutes.
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With me, it's much faster (over a 100 Mbps connection - haven't tested it over phone connections).
donsaxena said:
i get failed to contact errors sometimes and sometimes it works....actually rarely it works. any suggestions. all other connections work push, rss, xm, sirius, etc.
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yeah you need to get off the 3.5 and get elf's rom no problems on my end good work on the thread menneisyys
I don't know about you guys, but included tool for downloading clips from youtube (desktop one) refused to work recently giving me error (invalid returned link). The ppc one works fine. i assume that since a week or so youtube page has been changed. i took a look at how does youtube work and after a while i put together a simple tool for downloading clips myself (desktop windows). i tried it since yesterday and i think it works fine. if any of you wants to share comment on it, please do so...
all you need to do is copy the link to youtube video page in question and paste it into the first edit box in my app
(http://youtube.com/watch?v=EBr0dsfLYcU) for example
then after you press start, it downloads a page, then after the while it finds a direct link to a flv file and starts to download it into a dir from which it was run. you can also copy the link for different use (i don't know, maybye someone needs it)
i hope someone will find it usefull.
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yeah you need to get off the 3.5 and get elf's rom no problems on my end good work on the thread menneisyys
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yeah its not a problem in the rom i put elf on my friends good and stable but after benchmark 3.5 wins.
banannq said:
I don't know about you guys, but included tool for downloading clips from youtube (desktop one) refused to work recently giving me error (invalid returned link). The ppc one works fine. i assume that since a week or so youtube page has been changed. i took a look at how does youtube work and after a while i put together a simple tool for downloading clips myself (desktop windows). i tried it since yesterday and i think it works fine. if any of you wants to share comment on it, please do so...
all you need to do is copy the link to youtube video page in question and paste it into the first edit box in my app
(http://youtube.com/watch?v=EBr0dsfLYcU) for example
then after you press start, it downloads a page, then after the while it finds a direct link to a flv file and starts to download it into a dir from which it was run. you can also copy the link for different use (i don't know, maybye someone needs it)
i hope someone will find it usefull.
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Great! I'll post an update to my article, linking in your post!
i can hear the audio from the FLV file but i don't get video?
I copied the
flvsplitter.plg
flvffmpeg.plg
to the windows directory where all the other .plg are
What else do i need?
help!
@Menneisyys: great, i love to hear this.
@ekhanh101:
if you've read the first post in this post, at least, you would notice this part:
1. download the latest (currently: 0.3) version from HERE and, of course, TCPMP (either the PPC (tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab) or the Smartphone (tcpmp.smartphone.0.72RC1.cab) version).
Extract all the files from the tcpmpflvplugin ZIP file, (currently) tcpmpflvplugin-v0.3.zip, player and, after installing TCPMP,
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||<b>copy the two .plg files in the home of TCPMP</b>||
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(\Storage Card\Program Files\TCPMP when installed on the only storage card under WM5+ etc.).
the "home" of the player is part of the cooked rom.
so the player is in wondows.
putting the .plg in the windows dir make it work for the audio at least,
if i took out the .plgs then it doesn't play at all.
ALL the other .plg files are located in the \windows directory also.
i don't have a TCPMP directory. i tried making one just incase but that doesn't work.
Like i said, you can hear the audio. just no video.
also, here's another way to download flvs from youtube:
http://downthisvideo.com/?url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqTaqVi9J8k
just put the full url after the ?
still haven't figure out how to get the video to show up yet on TCPMP... i have 0.72RC1 it plays AVIs and the audio from the FLV is perfect... sigh...
ekhanh101 said:
also, here's another way to download flvs from youtube:
http://downthisvideo.com/?url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqTaqVi9J8k
just put the full url after the ?
still haven't figure out how to get the video to show up yet on TCPMP... i have 0.72RC1 it plays AVIs and the audio from the FLV is perfect... sigh...
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i am sorry then, i should have thought u ment something like this, i just didn't. have no idea, maybe your tcpmp is in wrong version? no clue from me....
about youtube downloaders - there's plenty of this kind of sites online, its enough to google for it (http://www.google.pl/search?source=ig&hl=pl&q=youtube+download&btnG=Szukaj+w+Google&lr=)
there are also at least few firefox plugins (https://addons.mozilla.org/pl/firefox/search?q=youtube+download&status=4)
the problem is i don't like to use another site to do it, and i don't like any of these working plugins (the only one i liked refused to work recently)
thats why i preffered this small utility from tcpmp plugin, and since it doesn't work for me anymore neither, i decided to code my own ;]
smartphone version ?
The 2 FLV plugins (from the latest release 0.3) will not install on TCPMP 0.72 smartphone version.
Could someone confirm if the plugin works for TCPMP 0.72 smartphone and if so, which version of the plugin did you use ?
oops, forgot to mention...WM2003 (SPV C550).
If WM2003 is not supported, why not and will it be soon ?
As has also been announced in my (latest) guide to playing back (non-Mobile) YouTube videos published some weeks ago, the YouTube folks have been working on a really mobile, non-flash-based version of their services and, as promised, have indeed come up with it some days ago. Even when it only contains very few clips (in general, only the most popular ones – for example, none of the not-that-popular but old clips I’ve searched for existed in there as of today), it’s been continuously expanded, which means it might become a real repository of all “real”, Flash-based videos.
As there is a lot of plain wrong or contradicting information and a LOT of hacks out there, all just confusing Windows Mobile users, I’ve decided to publish the one and only REAL guide to this question.
The new Mobile YouTube homepage is accessible at http://m.youtube.com/ from any Web browser, desktop or mobile alike. However, in order for the playback to work, you must use a browser accessible of passing control to external applications (in this case, the HTC Streaming Media player) because, when a Watch Video link is clicked (like the one in THIS screenshot), an external application, “Streaming Media”, will be invoked. This means you won’t be able to use, for example, the otherwise excellent and highly recommended Opera Mini. (Unfortunately, this also applies to the latest version, 4.0 beta.) This restriction, on the other hand, does NOT apply to the best Windows Mobile browser on both (Pocket PC and Smartphone) platforms, Opera Mobile. That is, you aren’t forced to use the built-in, in most respects inferior Internet Explorer Mobile.
First, some bad news (in addition to the fact that, currently, the mobile version of YouTube only has few converted videos).
You’ll need the HTC Streaming Media player, which only comes with WM6 Pocket PC Professional) devices, but NOT Smartphones – that is, WM Standard devices. On the latter phones, clicking Mobile YouTube links result in Windows Media Player’s being invoked – but in vain, because, after trying to connect, it displays an error (screenshot HERE and HERE).
Fortunately, this problem can be VERY easily fixed on both WM5 Pocket PC’s and Smartphones and WM6 Smartphones.
Streaming Media is a full application, which also means it has its own icon and is directly runnable. However, you will want to prefer starting it from your Windows Mobile Web browsers by simply clicking streaming links like those of Mobile YouTube.
You will need DIRECT Internet connection, as was the case with the well-known RealOne Player for Pocket PC. If you’ve ever tried to make the latter to play back streams (or, you’ve read my related article “How Can I Listen to/Watch RealOne Streamed Content (RealAudio/RealVideo) on my Pocket PC?”), you know well enough you can only do this if you have a direct connection to the Internet: that is, in most cases, over mobile phone-based (GPRS / EDGE / UMTS / HSDPA etc.) connections. Should you have a non-direct connection, you will see the “Failed to find network.” error message upon trying to play back streams (screenshot HERE). Unfortunately, most Wi-Fi connections (unless they put you in a DMZ (demilitarized zone), which is pretty rare) are unlikely to work and ActiveSync connections will NEVER work.
A quick note: I’ve thoroughly tested the latter by configuring Windows XP’s Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) to forward UDP ports 1024...1044 as can be seen in HERE (20 ports were the smallest amount the client allows for as can also be seen in HERE; note that, when tested, I’ve ticked in all these checkboxes) and HERE. In vain: it just didn’t work.
If you DO have direct internet connections or would still want to give the client a try, do the following.
If you don’t have Streaming Media on your Windows Mobile handheld (because it’s WM5 only or a WM6 Smartphone and not a Pocket PC), get and install THIS file. Note that if it doesn’t exist, you can get it from HERE (make sure you unRAR the latter to get the CAB file). Also note that you can safely install the CAB file to a storage card.
Don’t listen to people that tell you to use other files – with them, you may end up having to, for example, import Registry scripts to create the necessary file / type associations so that Streaming Media can be invoked.
If you do have Streaming Media (or, have just installed it), just navigate to http://m.youtube.com/ and enjoy the videos.
Some example screenshots of showing all this in action (all taken by me on my QVGA and VGA WM5/ WM6 Pocket PC Phone Edition models and a WM5 176*220 HTC s310 (Oxygen) and a WM6 QVGA HTC s710 (Vox) Smartphones):
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
(WM6 VGA Pocket PC, officially shipped with Streaming Media, over GPRS – as can be seen, GPRS is just too slow to produce a decent image)
Now, three screenshots of models with the additionally installed Streaming Media:
(WM5 QVGA Pocket PC over EDGE – decent playback)
(WM5 176*220 Smartphone over EDGE – decent playback)
(WM6 QVGA Smartphone over EDGE – decent playback)
Cool, eh? Nice to know even low-end Smartphones are able to play back these kinds of stuff, isn’t it?
Note that, in order to install the player on application locked MS Smartphones, you will need to unlock them. See my other, related articles on doing this – for example, THIS.
What should you do if you get the "Failed to find network." error message?
Unfortunately, not much, but this also depends on your particular network settings.
If you're on a Wi-Fi network and you do have administrator rights to reconfigure the router(s), you can configure them to allow your mobile device to be in the DMZ - or, at least, configure UDP port forwarding (note that the latter didn't work in my tests as has also been mentioned above - this means DMZ may be the ONLY solution). Otherwise, if you use public Wi-Fi networks, you can't do anything.
If you're using a wireless (for example GSM) network, which doesn't support direct access, you can't do anything either. Your only choice is switching to another mobile phone network, which does. (About half of them do.)
Finally, don't forget that, even if you can't play Mobile YouTube videos, nothing is lost, except for the advantages of the 3GP streaming compared to the alternative methods:
Direct Flash video playback (with Opera Mobile) takes a LOT of CPU time and may have stuttering playback even on the fastest, 624 MHz Windows Mobile devices, let alone slower ones
Indirect video playback has an additional step requiring manual work including, at least, copying and pasting the URL of the given video clip. If they also employ transcoding (all solutions EXCEPT for the TCPMP-based playback, but the latter can't be used on MS Smartphones), the resulting video will be, in general, of lower quality and higher size than the original Flash video, which you don't necessarily want.
That is, you can still play regular YouTube videos. Either, as has just been explained, directly (with Opera Mobile 8.65- forget all the other browsers, particularly the latest, Flash-enabled, Technical Preview released in June of Netfront 3.4 - see my review of the browser for the why's), half-directly via (direct download, unfortunately, only works on PPC's and not Smartphones) or indirectly, using an online conversion service. I've elaborated on all these three alternatives in my past articles - make sure you check them out, should you need to rely on the "traditional" way of playback.
Additional info (you will NOT need to read them; the above tutorial should suffice. I only give you these URL’s so that you can see how much easier my tutorial is than trying to find out what to do when following community threads with millions of contradicting and/or misleading and/or outdated posts and hacks):
Probably the best, related XDA-Dev thread
youtube mobile problem
A PPCT thread on the problem
So here's where I am. I've got the HTC Streaming Media thing it launches when I click watch video. Im on T-Mobile USA over my edge connection and it says failed to find network, then closes. Any ideas? my rom is xda mobile 6
jaychym said:
So here's where I am. I've got the HTC Streaming Media thing it launches when I click watch video. Im on T-Mobile USA over my edge connection and it says failed to find network, then closes. Any ideas? my rom is xda mobile 6
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This means you don't have a direct IP. Nothing can be done - you'll need to use the alternate methods of playback.
I stream YouTube with Wifi all the time... not sure if you are saying it doesnt work with Wifi.. cuz it does.
Madcap180 said:
I stream YouTube with Wifi all the time... not sure if you are saying it doesnt work with Wifi.. cuz it does.
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Your particular Wii-Fi networks put your devide into a demilitarized zone and/or do UDP port forwarding; this is why it works. In usual Wi-Fi networks not using any of these tricks, it doesn't necessarily work.
Menneisyys said:
Your particular Wii-Fi networks put your devide into a demilitarized zone and/or do UDP port forwarding; this is why it works. In usual Wi-Fi networks not using any of these tricks, it doesn't necessarily work.
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My wifi works just fine as the above poster, im wondering is the device using uPnP since this is supported on the three wifi access points i have tested??
ahhh.. I see... Soon enough I will stop being cheap and actually utilize the 3g capability of my Hermes.. lol
Does anybody know, if it works with O2 Germany? Does O2 Germany give a direvt IP to the Phone (HTC P3600)? I have always Network connecting error.
PS.: Direct streams via mms:// an with WMP works!
didn't work with my blackjack wm5 cell
Tried this and all I got was it can't run the program, can't find the exe file.. so I don't think it works with my cellphone.
Just installed the StreamingPlayer to my PPC-6700. Upon executing the program, I get the error...
"The file 'StreamingPlayer' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. You might need to reinstall or restore this file"
Tried reinstalling it a few times, and even changing from 'device' to 'storage card' and get the same results.. any suggestions?
Not working on 8525 with WM5
I downloaded and installed the HTC Streaming Media Player (RvBCrS_HTC_Streaming_Media.cab) just fine on my 8525 with WM5. But when I tried to watch a video from m.youtube.com it connects and buffers until it gets to about 97% then hangs a bit then goes back to the previous screen. I haven't seen anyone else with this problem. I've tried removing and reinstalling the Streaming Media Player and installing it to main memory and the storage card but am stuck here no matter what. Any ideas?
mdifilm said:
Tried this and all I got was it can't run the program, can't find the exe file.. so I don't think it works with my cellphone.
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What phone model do you have? Is it a Windows Mobile one?
leevick said:
I downloaded and installed the HTC Streaming Media Player (RvBCrS_HTC_Streaming_Media.cab) just fine on my 8525 with WM5. But when I tried to watch a video from m.youtube.com it connects and buffers until it gets to about 97% then hangs a bit then goes back to the previous screen. I haven't seen anyone else with this problem. I've tried removing and reinstalling the Streaming Media Player and installing it to main memory and the storage card but am stuck here no matter what. Any ideas?
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Did you try playing with the buffering params - for example, lowering them from 7s to, say, 3s?
moooo said:
Does anybody know, if it works with O2 Germany? Does O2 Germany give a direvt IP to the Phone (HTC P3600)? I have always Network connecting error.
PS.: Direct streams via mms:// an with WMP works!
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Unfortunately, this kind of RTSP connections need a directly visible IP (or, port forwarding), which isn't supportred by many GSM operators. This is why RealOne Player refuses to work too.
Krayziepop said:
Just installed the StreamingPlayer to my PPC-6700. Upon executing the program, I get the error...
"The file 'StreamingPlayer' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. You might need to reinstall or restore this file"
Tried reinstalling it a few times, and even changing from 'device' to 'storage card' and get the same results.. any suggestions?
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I'm getting the same problem on my 8125 with WM5. Any answers to this one?
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I'm getting the same problem on my 8125 with WM5. Any answers to this one?
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Hm, I'm starting to think this just doesn't work on all WM5 devices. I've double checked that the cab file installed the aforementioned files and registry additions, and it seems like it has. So there is still some missing component.
Is there any good method that can be used to identify if we are not directly connected to the internet?
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Did you try playing with the buffering params - for example, lowering them from 7s to, say, 3s?
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Yup, tried that too. All it did was buffer up to the high 90% faster, then the same delay and return to the previous screen. It's so weird that I seem to be the only one having this problem. FWIW I have upgraded the ROM on this HTC to the latest version (but not to WM6 since that's not out yet. Grrr.)
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Yup, tried that too. All it did was buffer up to the high 90% faster, then the same delay and return to the previous screen. It's so weird that I seem to be the only one having this problem. FWIW I have upgraded the ROM on this HTC to the latest version (but not to WM6 since that's not out yet. Grrr.)
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Not only you - see http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1187991
Menneisyys said:
Not only you - see http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1187991
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Thanks. I had looked there but not seen anyone with the same problem when I posted. Now I feel better and worse at the same time - better, because it's not just me, but worse because there's not yet a known solution. Bummer! I hate to fail after coming so far!
I suppose I could use an unofficial WM6 ROM for this phone, but I'd rather not. Guess I'll have to wait. Patience is a virtue. Good things come to those who wait. A stitch in time saves nine... <sigh>
OK, I need help streaming video on my tilt. I installed Dutty’s latest rom, the touch v 1 or what ever. Great rom. However, I cant seem to get streaming video to work. Its kind of like it tried to download the files instead of opening them. Everytime I click on a link in order (when using .asx mode) it says “a file with the name already exists, do you want to replace it? Yes or no”. I hit yes, and it launches a program called TCPMP. Now, 1 day ago, I had streaming working. Streaming took place in duttys customer windows media player using port 80. the problem with this new program is it doesn’t let you select a port, and as soon as it launches it gives the error “file not found! –web \mydocuments\stream.wmwebasx” Anyone have any Idea how I can get streaming video working again on my tilt?
I even tried realplayer, and that doesn’t work either. .3gp goes to HTC’s streaming program, but again, that doesn’t work either. Im really at a loss
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I use xda live and have installed tcpmp for streaming purposes myself. I use it with orb and it works perfect. You just need to make sure you have all the codecs. and supposedly it works better with tcpmp .72 version not .81..not sure which dutty used.
I stumbled across this site recent (moodio.fm), but can't get it working on my HTC touch. I downloaded HTC Streaming Media player, which can stream m.youtube videos, but can't seem to open moodio.fm radio stations. Anyone else come across this?
I'm on the Bell network btw, maybe Bell blocks certain ports?
Any help is appreciated.
I have an HTC Fuze and would also like an answer to this question. The streaming medial player won't seem to open Moodio links. Moodio is a great site with tons of great stations. Anyone have a fix to opening these links?
some times use mediaplayer streaming or realplayer or quicktime so being able to play youtube matters little in those cases
I would mess around with different browsers to see both on the computer and the pda
The Moodio site says the link should open with the streaming media application, and when you click the link it does bring up the streaming media player, but it does not load and gives a message that "media file type not supported".
The Moodio site says the link should open with the streaming media application, and when you click the link it does bring up the streaming media player, but it does not load and gives a message that "media file type not supported".
anyone figure this out yet? I recall it working with some othe streaming app on the diamond, but since I've reflashed the ROM I lost the app.
Hello. I've been searching for a solution to this for quite some time and finally found a way to stream Moodio, from a totally unrelated thread here on XDA-Developers. It's a bit complicated, mind you, but so far it's worked for me every time both over WiFi and HSDPA on my Xperia X1.
Try the following:
1. Go to m.moodio.fm and log in.
2. Click on a station you wish to play. At this point, the HTC Streaming Player will launch and you will receive the "unsupported media type" error. You will also now have a file downloaded by Moodio in your My Documents folder called Listen.sdp.
3. Rename the .sdp file to .txt (either on the PC or with something like Resco Explorer so that it can be opened in Word Mobile. Alternatively you can install the HouMing File Explorer extension, select the Open With Program option, and open the file with Word Mobile, so as not to have to rename the file.
4. Look for the entry that begins with the string 'a=control:' and contains the 'rtsp://'. Example: 'a=control:rtsp://moodio-3.seeas.nl/3938994'.
5. Ignore the 'a=control:' and copy the part of the string that begins with 'rtsp//'. Example: 'rtsp://moodio-3.seeas.nl/3938994'.
6. Open your media player (in my case, the HTC Streaming Media player), and paste this text in the URL field. The station should then play as expected. (Note that you can also play the station by pasting this text into the address bar of your browser like Pocket IE, which will then automatically launch the Streaming Media Player and play it. At this point I save the file to Favorites in the HTC Streaming Media Player so I can play it any time I wish.
I thought I would post this since I have searched and searched and have not seen anyone mention this alternative with respect to Moodio.
Hope this helps those of you who, like me, have had no luck in streaming Moodio on your Windows Mobile device up to now.
Hi,
I'm the developer behind moodio.fm. I used an Xperia X1 myself for sometime last year and i'm very sure Moodio played on it without the need for this trick.
Have you tried different browsers? As far as i remember it only worked in IE.
If you provide me with your Moodio user name i can check the exact user agent string the phone sends and add an exception in our system to redirect these phones to the direct rtsp url instead of returning an SDP file.
regards
Oele
Oelej said:
Hi,
I'm the developer behind moodio.fm. I used an Xperia X1 myself for sometime last year and i'm very sure Moodio played on it without the need for this trick.
Have you tried different browsers? As far as i remember it only worked in IE.
If you provide me with your Moodio user name i can check the exact user agent string the phone sends and add an exception in our system to redirect these phones to the direct rtsp url instead of returning an SDP file.
regards
Oele
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Hello Oele. Wow, that would be fantastic! I can tell you that I joined Moodio some time back (I believe perhaps June or July of last year), and I have always received the .sdp file on my Xperia X1A since day one. I tried to find a solution back then and couldn't, so gave up for a while and didn't use Moodio. I recently decided to search once more to see if I could find something and this is when I came across the workaround described in my prior post. But if you can make it so that my device is automatically redirected to the rtsp URL, that would be wonderful. I have only tried this with IE, BTW, as that is the only browser I use. My Moodio username is queenv. If you need any additional information, please let me know. Thanks again!
Could you try again? You should now get a redirect to the RTSP url.
Oelej said:
Could you try again? You should now get a redirect to the RTSP url.
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Yes! I just tried it and I certainly do! Now it just plays and I no longer have to do my workaround. Thanks a million!!!!
Hi Everyone,
I m kindly asking you to help me push MS into fixing the avi/xvid issue since conversion times are too long.
edit Several members have also raised concern that the Zune software transcodes videos where there is really no need!
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a 720p Family guy blue harvest in divx (my own copy) was converted to mp4 but resolution was not lowered.
A 720p family guy something dark side in mp4 was converted to mp4 but resolution was not lowered or audio adjusted.
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I have created a post on the official MS support forums and the fellow users have supported the post but MS is trying not to give a proper answer on the issues unless people reply enough or click the "I would like an answer too" button. The post seems to be ending up unanswered and pushed back. I need to let the post grab MS attention!
I would like MS to escalate the issue internally but I need more input! So please be so kind!
I suggest that we could do this for other issues as well!!!
Their forum relies on Live IDs so it is just about entering your username. (Doesn't take long)
http://social.answers.microsoft.com...7/thread/b71af2ac-9f72-4b10-a5ee-eaa29c1933e7
It can be fixed quite easily.
1) Write down the spec of your computer on a piece of paper.
2) Go to your local PC shop
3) Hand them the piece of paper and ask for something faster at encoding video
4) Happiness
Yep. Crap computers suck at transcoding video. Even a better graphics card would work much better, since lots of GPUs these days can offload much of the conversion.
Some notebooks were sold without multi-core processors (but are still 64-bit, some people assume 64-bit = multi-core), and lots of consumers have things like mismatched ram sticks and the like that can reduce their computer performance for these types of tasks.
Thanks a lot guys!!!! Appreciated!
It looks like they are still ignoring the issue. I think I might try to upvote the thread tomorrow again.
My general issue is that I am accessing different PCs all the time. Let it be work, uni, friends, or my home laptop. So I generally just need a fast way to get stuff onto the device.
Maybe we get lucky and they enable it again
I personally don't think this issue should have a high priority, as Zune software reencode your file on the fly.
Even at Microsoft, ressources are limited, and there are lots a other stuff I would like first (custom ringtones, multitask, silverlight and flash on the browser...)
My 2 cents.
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Even at Microsoft, ressources are limited,
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The issue here is that it works on the Zune HD without re encoding or demuxing and the same applied to the wp7 emulator until they decided to take the feature out...
Maybe it will be a OEM specific feature?!
Name one reason for DivX /XviD support, except that you want to play your pirated movies...
Transcoding XviD shouldn't take much time with a modern computer.
Why do they have to be pirated? There are those of us who have huge DVD/BD libraries ripped to xvid (and later on MKV). Personally I have several hundred DVDs that I have painstakingly converted to xvid for digital storage and easy access from my HTPCs.
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Name one reason for DivX /XviD support, except that you want to play your pirated movies...
Transcoding XviD shouldn't take much time with a modern computer.
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You could make the same assumption about mp3s. I started ripping in 99.. I don't have the resources to rerip my music into something better now. And in a real case scenario I don't want to be told 2 years from now that an MP3 player doesn't play mp3s anymore because they are "all" considered to be pirated .....
I have pleny of DVD's/BD that on top of normal movie have a digital copy that can be used with portable players. They come in many formats on those discs and all require to enter a code before 1st play so it can check if it is valid copy.
I do that and then can play them on my PC even via Zune. Formats I have are WMV, AVI, MP4 and DIVX.
My death race in wmv that works on windows 7 fresh install (with no extra codes and net access) is converted by zune. Annoying as zune officially supports WMV and even plays that movie.
Two mp4 movies (Mummy and Mummy 2) from the same Box set one just copies and works one is converted from mp4 to mp4. Some Divx movies are "converted" but it lasts 1 to 2 min aka it only changes extension while some are properly reconverted but resolution or quality are the same afterwards (720p or standard resolution no matter). There is a problem there.