Need all your Help to push MS / avi transcoding issue - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi Everyone,
I m kindly asking you to help me push MS into fixing the avi/xvid issue since conversion times are too long.
edit Several members have also raised concern that the Zune software transcodes videos where there is really no need!
ruscik said:
a 720p Family guy blue harvest in divx (my own copy) was converted to mp4 but resolution was not lowered.
A 720p family guy something dark side in mp4 was converted to mp4 but resolution was not lowered or audio adjusted.
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I have created a post on the official MS support forums and the fellow users have supported the post but MS is trying not to give a proper answer on the issues unless people reply enough or click the "I would like an answer too" button. The post seems to be ending up unanswered and pushed back. I need to let the post grab MS attention!
I would like MS to escalate the issue internally but I need more input! So please be so kind!
I suggest that we could do this for other issues as well!!!
Their forum relies on Live IDs so it is just about entering your username. (Doesn't take long)
http://social.answers.microsoft.com...7/thread/b71af2ac-9f72-4b10-a5ee-eaa29c1933e7

It can be fixed quite easily.
1) Write down the spec of your computer on a piece of paper.
2) Go to your local PC shop
3) Hand them the piece of paper and ask for something faster at encoding video
4) Happiness

Yep. Crap computers suck at transcoding video. Even a better graphics card would work much better, since lots of GPUs these days can offload much of the conversion.
Some notebooks were sold without multi-core processors (but are still 64-bit, some people assume 64-bit = multi-core), and lots of consumers have things like mismatched ram sticks and the like that can reduce their computer performance for these types of tasks.

Thanks a lot guys!!!! Appreciated!
It looks like they are still ignoring the issue. I think I might try to upvote the thread tomorrow again.
My general issue is that I am accessing different PCs all the time. Let it be work, uni, friends, or my home laptop. So I generally just need a fast way to get stuff onto the device.
Maybe we get lucky and they enable it again

I personally don't think this issue should have a high priority, as Zune software reencode your file on the fly.
Even at Microsoft, ressources are limited, and there are lots a other stuff I would like first (custom ringtones, multitask, silverlight and flash on the browser...)
My 2 cents.

(nico) said:
Even at Microsoft, ressources are limited,
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The issue here is that it works on the Zune HD without re encoding or demuxing and the same applied to the wp7 emulator until they decided to take the feature out...
Maybe it will be a OEM specific feature?!

Name one reason for DivX /XviD support, except that you want to play your pirated movies...
Transcoding XviD shouldn't take much time with a modern computer.

Why do they have to be pirated? There are those of us who have huge DVD/BD libraries ripped to xvid (and later on MKV). Personally I have several hundred DVDs that I have painstakingly converted to xvid for digital storage and easy access from my HTPCs.

Sir. Haxalot said:
Name one reason for DivX /XviD support, except that you want to play your pirated movies...
Transcoding XviD shouldn't take much time with a modern computer.
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You could make the same assumption about mp3s. I started ripping in 99.. I don't have the resources to rerip my music into something better now. And in a real case scenario I don't want to be told 2 years from now that an MP3 player doesn't play mp3s anymore because they are "all" considered to be pirated .....

I have pleny of DVD's/BD that on top of normal movie have a digital copy that can be used with portable players. They come in many formats on those discs and all require to enter a code before 1st play so it can check if it is valid copy.
I do that and then can play them on my PC even via Zune. Formats I have are WMV, AVI, MP4 and DIVX.
My death race in wmv that works on windows 7 fresh install (with no extra codes and net access) is converted by zune. Annoying as zune officially supports WMV and even plays that movie.
Two mp4 movies (Mummy and Mummy 2) from the same Box set one just copies and works one is converted from mp4 to mp4. Some Divx movies are "converted" but it lasts 1 to 2 min aka it only changes extension while some are properly reconverted but resolution or quality are the same afterwards (720p or standard resolution no matter). There is a problem there.

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Watching DVD video on the PDA - Help needed please.

Can someone help please?
I have just copied the TV highlights of a particular cycle "tour" on to my hard drive and in turn on to DVD. How can I put this video footage onto my PDA to watch during lunchtime, etc?
There are 2 directories on the DVD - these are VIDEO_RM and VIDEO_TS. I assume that this is all needed on the PDA to watch what I have of the tour.
Do I need special software? One person tells me that all I need to do is change the *.VOB to *.MP4. This doesn't appear to work.
All help is appreciated.
Thanks,
S.
Having re-read what I have just typed - the title doesn't make it clear what I am trying to do.
The DVD bit was just a way of transferring from my TV set-top hard-drive to my PC.
I then want to copy from my PC to my PDA.
All I am ultimately trying to do is be able to watch what is on my hard-drive on the PDA. It just so happens the video codecs (something I dont' know a lot about) and file formats *.VOB don't appear to let me watch what I want.
Thanks.
S.
Spb Mobile DVD is a pretty popular app that'll convert DVDs to a format you can view on your PPC. It's not free, but it's worth the cost if you get good use out of it. It's also really easy to run.
I'm also moving this to a more appropriate forum.
more options here
http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=free+dvd+to+pocketpc&btnG=Google+Search
Hi TaurusBullba.
Thanks for the tip.
Doing this kind of conversion how much disc space would 1Gb of VOB file take up - do you know?
Is it cheaper direct or could I get it anywhere else?
How does it deal with copyright protected discs?
Thanks again.
S.
since pda's have a res of 240_320 and 480_640
and dont support surround sound
and can use formats which take up less space then
old mpeg2 which is used in vob's on the dvd's
so the movies will be much much smaller then the dvd is

[Q] converting DVD for mobile (touch HD)

Hi,
I've been searching the forum and reading a few posts but I still have some basic questions about converting my DVD's to play on touch HD. Apologies in advance if some seem a bit obvious but having never converted anything i'm sure what the best route is. OKay:
1: I've decoded some dvd's and copying them to my hard drive -i presume this is necessary for all dvd's?
2: I then have to convert them to 800x480 - which is the best software? SUPER looks confusing so haven't really used it much, and i downloaded a trial of iSofter which seemed a bit easier BUT which is the best software for a beginner? Something easy and obvious?
3: how long does it take? when I ran SUPER and iSofter it seemed to take 3/4 hours for 1 DVD. IS this normal? Or have do I have to change the settings and choose something to make it faster?
Once I've managed to copy over my first DVD I'm sure all the other posts about quality, resolutions, etc will make a lot more sense. Just want to try and watch one...
Cheers,
Paddy
I always do it a little differently. I use AutoGK to back up my DVD's, which will back them up to CD sized, whilst still being watchable on my TV using my stand-alone divx player, (or the TV out from your graphics card). This typically takes 3-5 hours using my 2.3ghz athlon. If I then want to watch on my PDA, I use pocketdivxencoder, which takes about 20-40 mins to reduce it down.
Both these pieces of software are free, and are very easy to use.
My thoughts....
I myself use Handbrake to rip any DVD that I have to my PC and then use either AnyVideoConverter or Format Factory to convert the files to an acceptable AVI quality for all my family's mobile devices. All 3 programs are straightforward and easy to use. Below are links for you to find out for yourself.
HandBrake
Any-Video-Converter
Format Factory
Hope that helps!!
PS. And as for the time it takes to convert the videos, yes those times are about right, depending on you PC's CPU. The CPU is the single biggest factor when ripping and converting video, with memory coming in 2nd and hard drive space a close 3rd.
DVD Catalyst is the best and will do it all. What format, how good of quality and whatever else you can think of. It is user friendly out of the box/download and as you get use to the settings you can adjust them accordingly. Google it and give the trial a shot. I have use this software for years now and have yet to find anything as good.
I use Magic DVD Ripper to convert DVD to AVI
To convert to .mp4 i use AONE FLV to AVI MPEG WMV 3GP MP4 iPod Converter it actually converts every format not just FLV very easy to use and good results.
All in all a very easy process
Hi All,
Cheers for the replies - really useful. So the timing thing was right, and it looks like that new PC I need will have be bought sooner rather than later as the CPU, etc on current one is pretty slow.
Just one more thing - what setting you guys use? I have a Touch HD so I presume the screen should be set to 480x800, but I haven't a clue about rates, frames pre second, sound quality, etc. Some pointers would be brilliant. So is AVI good for smaller file sizes. The files just have to be good enough to watch on the train etc without to much flicker or jumping. Hopefully I'll be watching The Wire on the train soon!
Cheers (again)
PAddy
padsmcnulty said:
Hi All,
Cheers for the replies - really useful. So the timing thing was right, and it looks like that new PC I need will have be bought sooner rather than later as the CPU, etc on current one is pretty slow.
Just one more thing - what setting you guys use? I have a Touch HD so I presume the screen should be set to 480x800, but I haven't a clue about rates, frames pre second, sound quality, etc. Some pointers would be brilliant. So is AVI good for smaller file sizes. The files just have to be good enough to watch on the train etc without to much flicker or jumping. Hopefully I'll be watching The Wire on the train soon!
Cheers (again)
PAddy
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If your going do display in widescreen so the device in sideways then the res will be 800x480 unless the media player automatically does this?
The frame rate want to be the same as original source you can find this by right clicking properties on the file and tab summary, the best format for mobile video is .mp4 as they hold the quality but are low in data, as the less data you have to pull @ a time off a memory card helps too.

divx support ported from new samsung phone?

according to http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/15/samsung-unveils-android-equipped-galaxy-spica-i5700/
the new spica comes equipped with built in divx support. Is this a codec or is it an app that needs ported?
Anyone have any idea?
Nobody knows yet, as there hasn't been a dump from this device made available yet. Also, this should probably be moved to the Q&A area (or general) until there's something development wise that can happen.
Mi|enko said:
Nobody knows yet, as there hasn't been a dump from this device made available yet. Also, this should probably be moved to the Q&A area (or general) until there's something development wise that can happen.
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What about the LG Eve dump that popped up a few days ago? Now I'm no dev, but I did a little bit of peeking around in it, and there is a bunch of stuff referencing DivX and mpeg4, h264, etc.
Am I wrong in assuming something can be done with those?
Moot
Whether it's a program to be ported or a codec to be included plays no real part in the answer to your question. The simple fact of the matter is that the G1 is too underpowered to do justice to DivX, h.264 or any other high capacity codec. The Spica is coming out with an 800 MHz processor, enabling it to jump through graphical hoops that we can't.
I agree that either way, just codecs or a (hopefully) simple port of a program, that we can at least try watching DivX, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
I bet it's got the decoder in hardware. That'd be a much easier, cheaper way to do it.
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Whether it's a program to be ported or a codec to be included plays no real part in the answer to your question. The simple fact of the matter is that the G1 is too underpowered to do justice to DivX, h.264 or any other high capacity codec. The Spica is coming out with an 800 MHz processor, enabling it to jump through graphical hoops that we can't.
I agree that either way, just codecs or a (hopefully) simple port of a program, that we can at least try watching DivX, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
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My 200mhz T-Mobile Wing with 64MB of ram did DivX just fine with TCPMP media player. The G1 can easily handle it if it can bypass the java interpreter.
Sumanitu said:
My 200mhz T-Mobile Wing with 64MB of ram did DivX just fine with TCPMP media player. The G1 can easily handle it if it can bypass the java interpreter.
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Agreed, especialy if there swap running and other tweaks. Playback shouldn't be a problem but encoding and decoding would not be practical. But I guess we will see. But why not just encode to a format the g1 can handle that's what I do, so there is no need for other codec support.
marixsmith said:
according to http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/15/samsung-unveils-android-equipped-galaxy-spica-i5700/
the new spica comes equipped with built in divx support. Is this a codec or is it an app that needs ported?
Anyone have any idea?
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The LG dump has divx support as well it looks like an entire media center, video editor and everything. From what i saw its hard coded libraries.
Libmmp_divxreg.so
zapyourit said:
Whether it's a program to be ported or a codec to be included plays no real part in the answer to your question. The simple fact of the matter is that the G1 is too underpowered to do justice to DivX, h.264 or any other high capacity codec. The Spica is coming out with an 800 MHz processor, enabling it to jump through graphical hoops that we can't.
I agree that either way, just codecs or a (hopefully) simple port of a program, that we can at least try watching DivX, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
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My G1 plays back x.264 video just fine (all of my videos I encode for my phone are x.264 with AAC audio), and when I check on my PC (without hardware acceleration enabled) x.264 takes a little more juice than a similarly encoded MPEG4 ASP codec such as DivX or XviD would. Your argument is flawed.
jmotyka said:
Playback shouldn't be a problem but encoding and decoding would not be practical.
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And how would playback without decoding the DivX video be carried out?
/Mats
Has anybody tried the yxflash app in the market? It does wmv pretty well and does do DivX video although not convinced how well. Sometimes it's kind of jerky but not sure if that's because it's the trial version. They want $20 on their web site for the full version and I'm not going to pay that without being sure it works all the time every time. But it still gives me hope that we will be able to play DivX on our G1s one day.
Charlie
Have the phone on hands but need help of some specialist to take out rom and player from there.
pls contact me ICQ 7120916
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Managed to install adb drivers, but because of idiotic rom could not install any apps on it...
Have tried to play divx file- http://www.hpc.ru/soft/software.phtml?id=20980 it did, my htc magic didn't
viewing a "divx" file is simple;
1) you need to switch out the fourcc tag to one that is reconized properly (and compatible -- mpeg4-asp i.e. H263) since nobody in the real world has heard of or cares about "divx",
2) use a recognized CONTAINER format (i.e. 3gp)
3) stick to resolutions and bitrates and other encoding parameters that make sense for the particular device.
Note: The device HAS an mpeg4 decoder chip capable of mpeg4-asp (h263/divx) and mpeg4-avc (h264). The CPU is IRRELEVANT since the decoding is all done in a dedicated video decoder chip.
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viewing a "divx" file is simple;
1) you need to switch out the fourcc tag to one that is reconized properly (and compatible -- mpeg4-asp i.e. H263) since nobody in the real world has heard of or cares about "divx",
2) use a recognized CONTAINER format (i.e. 3gp)
3) stick to resolutions and bitrates and other encoding parameters that make sense for the particular device.
Note: The device HAS an mpeg4 decoder chip capable of mpeg4-asp (h263/divx) and mpeg4-avc (h264). The CPU is IRRELEVANT since the decoding is all done in a dedicated video decoder chip.
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Apologies. I did not realize the G1 had a dedicated chip for such things.
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Apologies. I did not realize the G1 had a dedicated chip for such things.
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Even if it didnt have the mp4 decoder it still has enough power for divx, every windows phone I had has lower specs or the same processor and played them fine.
The G1 def has enough power I am not sure where you got the information, not being cocky but thats some bad information to spread around.
1Way
lbcoder said:
viewing a "divx" file is simple;
1) you need to switch out the fourcc tag to one that is reconized properly (and compatible -- mpeg4-asp i.e. H263) since nobody in the real world has heard of or cares about "divx",
2) use a recognized CONTAINER format (i.e. 3gp)
3) stick to resolutions and bitrates and other encoding parameters that make sense for the particular device.
Note: The device HAS an mpeg4 decoder chip capable of mpeg4-asp (h263/divx) and mpeg4-avc (h264). The CPU is IRRELEVANT since the decoding is all done in a dedicated video decoder chip.
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So, having some kind of app decoding h263 when fourcc is divx or dx5 ecc instead, the main problem reduces to the support of common PC "containers" like avi, i'm right?
1wayjonny said:
Even if it didnt have the mp4 decoder it still has enough power for divx, every windows phone I had has lower specs or the same processor and played them fine.
The G1 def has enough power I am not sure where you got the information, not being cocky but thats some bad information to spread around.
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Agreed.
My Windows Mobile 2003 Samsung SCH-i730 played any video file I threw at it flawlessly.
Flawlessly.
Saying that the G1 is too underpowered is just complete and utter misinformation.
1wayjonny said:
Even if it didnt have the mp4 decoder it still has enough power for divx, every windows phone I had has lower specs or the same processor and played them fine.
The G1 def has enough power I am not sure where you got the information, not being cocky but thats some bad information to spread around.
1Way
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Every windoze phone you had also had a decoder chip. So what?
fl3xo said:
So, having some kind of app decoding h263 when fourcc is divx or dx5 ecc instead, the main problem reduces to the support of common PC "containers" like avi, i'm right?
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No, the trick is to simply *change* the fourcc to h263 and/or be able to RECOGNIZE divx AS h263. Adding in more DEMUXERS (not decoders) would also help with dealing with additional containers, HOWEVER, there really isn't much point in supporting avi, since it is a terrible container that doesn't take A/V synchronization into account, AND it is typically used for video's that are over the resolution and bitrate limits.
Note: there may be licensing issues when dealing with certain container formats. I suggest staying as far as possible away from anything that carries a microshaft label on it (like avi, wmv, etc.).
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Every windoze phone you had also had a decoder chip. So what?
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What? Man you do not even make sense pfff
The point was a phone with less or equal to hardware specs could play the video fine.
Oh and BTW you should also know that the Windows Mobile Platform never optimized ANYTHING for the decoders built in the phones.
Most recent windows phone for the past a few years has a 3D accelerator that was NEVER used nor optimized expect by a Sony game released for the xperia. (which other phone could run with the correct DLL copied over as well, showing microsoft was lazy on 3D acceleration)
So much for not using the decoders eh?
The point in case you missed it is that WITH or WITHOUT the decoder the G1 has enough power to play the video.
Please use google if you need spoon fed information ...

DVD & Blu Ray software?????

What software do you guys use to rip your dvd movies to install on your phones and why?
Here's a short list so far.
AnyDvD
DvD Fab
Handbrake
I'm looking for other suggestions to compare.
Handbrake doesnt actually rip. I use it for reencoding though. I use dvdfab
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
What? Handbrake does in fact rip DVDs. You just need to be running an on-the-fly decrypter like AnyDVD (recommended), DVD43, or DVDFab PassKey. The fact that it can be set up to encode that rip to proper Captivate specs in one step makes it the preferred way to do so in my book.
Personally, I rip through dvd::rip in linux with libdvdcss2 installed to get around copy-protection.
It is illegal to circumvent copy-protection in the United States though, so technically this method should only be done outside the US (where applicable, check your local laws) unless you don't mind the possible legal ramifications.
dvd::rip can be used as a standalone product WITHOUT libdvdcss2, but it will be unable to rip copy-protected DVD's, as you'd expect.
That's all good, but what software do you use to view this videos in captive.
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Kaik541 said:
It is illegal to circumvent copy-protection in the United States though, so technically this method should only be done outside the US (where applicable, check your local laws) unless you don't mind the possible legal ramifications.
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Oh, yes, thanks for the reminder. Everytime you rip a DVD, God kills a kitten. Please, think of the kittens
aksma said:
That's all good, but what software do you use to view this videos in captive.
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If you are capable of ripping DVDs and putting the resultant file on the phone, you should be able to figure this one out yourself.
Personally I thought it was permissible to copy your own dvd to preserve and protect the original copy if you choose to.
What version of dvd fab do you use Max? I downloaded the trial version and it looks like you can only rip to mp2.
Shwiggie said:
What? Handbrake does in fact rip DVDs. You just need to be running an on-the-fly decrypter like AnyDVD (recommended), DVD43, or DVDFab PassKey. The fact that it can be set up to encode that rip to proper Captivate specs in one step makes it the preferred way to do so in my book.
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What handbrake settings are you using? I just downloaded handbrake.
Short instructions for Windows users
If you are going to rip Bluray or any other HD medium you must first get AnyDVD HD it will counter any of the protection schemes that Bluray and HDDVD disks use as well as DVD. If all of your sources are DVD then AnyDVD will do. Of course for BR you must have a BR player installed in your computer.
You need the following tools, at the very least:
AnyDVD HD (Please buy this and don't torrent it, it is that good!)
RipBot264 (it is much faster than Handbrake at re-encoding)
VidCoder (requires Handbrake to be installed but is a better GUI for Windows users)
Simplistic instructions:
Place DVD/HDDVD/BR in drive
Allow ANYDVD HD to scan disk
Right click ANYDVD HD icon and select "Rip Video DVD to Harddisk"
Open VidCoder
Start with the Apple Universal profile and edit is as follows:
Picture > Max Width 800
Video Filters > Denoise Medium
Video > Average Bitrate (kbps) 1500
Audio > Target All, Codec AAC, Mixdown Stereo, Sample Rate 48, Bitrate 128
Make sure you change the Container and extension to .mp4 then Save As... and call it Captivate or any other meaningful name.
If you use those settings any HD (1080) source will likely end up being about 1-2 GB in total size. With the settings saved you can then select a video source, it can be anything that Handbrake supports from VOB to MT2S to MP4 to MKV files. Pick a Destination location and name and start encoding.
I have a Core i7 running at 3.5Ghz with 8GB RAM and a full length movie takes about 2x-3x the run length, so a 120 minute movie will take anywhere from 4 to 6 hours to encode, SD (DVD, 720p HDTV, SDTV) will encode much faster, sometimes even faster than 1x runtime.
You can also to the same with Ripbot264 with the added bonus that Ripbot can handle subtitles, but those instructions are for another day.
Shwiggie said:
Oh, yes, thanks for the reminder. Everytime you rip a DVD, God kills a kitten. Please, think of the kittens
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I'm not saying it's an AWFUL thing to do, I'm just letting him know there are POTENTIAL legal ramifications.
Qmotion said:
Personally I thought it was permissible to copy your own dvd to preserve and protect the original copy if you choose to.
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It is 100% legal to copy a DVD for this purpose IF you are not circumventing any sort of copy-protection mechanism on the disc. Let me quote wikipedia on this:
In the case where media contents are protected using some effective copy protection scheme, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act makes it illegal to manufacture or distribute circumvention tools and use those tools for non-fair use purposes. In the case RealNetworks v. DVD-CCA[2], the final injunction reads, "while it may well be fair use for an individual consumer to store a backup copy of a personally owned DVD on that individual's computer, a federal law has nonetheless made it illegal to manufacture or traffic in a device or tool that permits a consumer to make such copies."[3] This case made clear that manufacturing and distribution of circumvention tools was illegal, but fair use of those tools was not.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripping#United_States
It's much like how jailbreaking and rooting has recently been made definitively legal through the DMCA, but the tools to do it and distributing those tools can still be illegal. So if you somehow manage to legally obtain the tools (which, there isn't an actual legal way to do so in the United States), you're right and this would be a 100% legal process. Fortunately, I doubt they'll actually chase you down for pulling the simple "libdvdcss2" file that's necessary (hell, I use it), but I'm just putting the information out there
WheresWaldo said:
If you are going to rip Bluray or any other HD medium you must first get AnyDVD HD it will counter any of the protection schemes that Bluray and HDDVD disks use as well as DVD. If all of your sources are DVD then AnyDVD will do. Of course for BR you must have a BR player installed in your computer.
You need the following tools, at the very least:
AnyDVD HD (Please buy this and don't torrent it, it is that good!)
RipBot264 (it is much faster than Handbrake at re-encoding)
VidCoder (requires Handbrake to be installed but is a better GUI for Windows users)
Simplistic instructions:
Place DVD/HDDVD/BR in drive
Allow ANYDVD HD to scan disk
Right click ANYDVD HD icon and select "Rip Video DVD to Harddisk"
Open VidCoder
Start with the Apple Universal profile and edit is as follows:
Picture > Max Width 800
Video Filters > Denoise Medium
Video > Average Bitrate (kbps) 1500
Audio > Target All, Codec AAC, Mixdown Stereo, Sample Rate 48, Bitrate 128
Make sure you change the Container and extension to .mp4 then Save As... and call it Captivate or any other meaningful name.
If you use those settings any HD (1080) source will likely end up being about 1-2 GB in total size. With the settings saved you can then select a video source, it can be anything that Handbrake supports from VOB to MT2S to MP4 to MKV files. Pick a Destination location and name and start encoding.
I have a Core i7 running at 3.5Ghz with 8GB RAM and a full length movie takes about 2x-3x the run length, so a 120 minute movie will take anywhere from 4 to 6 hours to encode, SD (DVD, 720p HDTV, SDTV) will encode much faster, sometimes even faster than 1x runtime.
You can also to the same with Ripbot264 with the added bonus that Ripbot can handle subtitles, but those instructions are for another day.
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Great Stuff.
So you like AnyDvd better than DvD Fab?
Qmotion said:
Great Stuff.
So you like AnyDvd better than DvD Fab?
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Yes
@Kaik541, Thank you so very much for the civics lesson, but it did not answer the question the OP asked. Nor did the OP state that he was illegally duping disks, you were presuming something you had no evidence to support.
I've been downloading movies for god knows how long. Now just reading your question and the replies so far made me want to reply.
Now my ans is none, no software what so ever, never used one and don't think I'll ever use on. If am burning a dvd then yes but to watch on my ph. or device, nope. Why? Because to me the best quickness and easiest way is to just down the rip version of the dvd. Now off course if u don't like downloading "copy protected" materials then I respect that, just gonna make ur task more time consuming. But for those of us that like our rip versions then this is the BEST WAY. u download ur movies, ANY format is perfectly find, that is. Avi,. Mpeg4,. Wmv,. Mkv etc. Now once you have your downloaded movies or ur rip movies that's it. Mission complete just drag the file to a video folder on ur SD card.
Here u go, u gonna need either rock player or yx player. Install any or both app. Both can play multiple video formats. Yx player plays ALL format including Mkv files.
Simple as that, no riping, converting or any thing like that. To me converting 1 movie is too much. The length of time it take one to rip or convert 1 movie equates to about 3-5 movies downloads for me using RapidShare.
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I think you need a faster machine... i can rip a DVD in about 15 minutes. I don't think I download 8GB in that time.
As for others that are "Offended" by the civics lesson, it is point of fact, like it or not. I rip my own DVDs for viewing on my phone - and I consider it fair use. This is quite a bit different then downloading content you didn't pay for.
I use DVDFab and it works great. I make backup copies of my DVDs, then I create mobile formats when i need them. 300MB to 700MB per movie gives me a great picture - that even looks good if I play it back on a PC.
That's why I said it's not for every 1. It's def. Ly s matter of choice. I get about 6 movies in 10- 12 mins, (30 mbps down) so to me it's no biggie..
But u are rite, some like ripping their own movies, play the "fair game", all is well. Just give a different alternative.
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I'm not quite sure why everyone is thinking I'm telling him not to do this, I even openly admitted to doing this very thing when I'm clearly from the United States where it's illegal. I also download movies for the same reason. And I'm sure more than half of us commenting here have downloaded movies that we don't even physically own just because we want to see them. (Streaming them on non-approved sites like hulu or netflix is essentially the same thing) But I honestly don't have a problem with this, I figured he should just be AWARE of the things you're suggesting to him.
I simply started my commenting as the fact that I use dvdrip which allows for a module known as libdvdcss2 to be loaded to circumvent copy protection. And that I use it.
Personally, I see no reason to transcode anything since our phones seem capable of taking just about any format you throw at it, unless you want to save space on the memory card.
I rent movies from Netflix. I don't always have time to watch them right away. I can be ripping them while I do other things and then watch them later on my phone if I'm away from home. I also have a large collection of movies that I've purchased. A couple of my favorites I wouldn't mind storing on my phone.
I just got the idea to install a movie on the phone to see how well it plays. I'm aware that the Vibrant came with Avatar. Too bad AT&T didn't think to give us something to show the video capabilities of the phone.
I also thought this might be an interesting post to make because I'm sure others might have interest in doing so. Many have never had a phone capable of viewing movies prior to owning a Captivate or simular device.
I think that anyone seeking advise from this thread won't be as concerened about any moral issues as much as just trying to learn what the best software that available to do the job. There are tons of software out there and it can be confusing trying to find what's best and how to use it.
If anyone knows of any other choices that works for them please feel free to add it and posibly explain how that particular software works.
Xilisoft suite works best for me, it's fast and easy, it's also one of the few that will actually max out all the cores in my cpu (i7-930),
others will use multiple cores, but my cpu graph shows that they won't max them out like xilisoft
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Reason to transcode
The Captivate cannot play all HD content. If you are content with SD then you can rip your DVD's to MKV or MP4 but you are still transcoding from the multiple VOBs to a single file. If you are using HD sources like Bluray then you must transcode to lower the resolution. I cannot nor have I seen anyone able to play 1080p content directly on the Galaxy S phones, 720p can be played but why rip to 720p for your phone when it can't display it without reducing the size, nor can you play it with the TV out! Since you are transcoding anyway might as well make it fit the display size and code to a max width of 800 pixels.
Then you have file size issues, a BRD may have a movie in a single m2ts file or multiple m2ts files and most current movies exceed 20GB in size. DVD at a lower resolution can have main movies that uncompress to 4-8GB in size. How the heck are you going to fit them on a microSD card. If you say that your downloaded files aren't that big, it's because someone else transcoded it for you. I like to know what I am getting so personally I would rather transcode it myself, rather than let someone else make those choices for me. Since most of my movies are 1080p I have no other choice but to transcode. I do not want to carry around more than 2 or 3 movies at a time but I also carry about 8GB worth of music. Can't do both unless it is transcoded.
WheresWaldo said:
The Captivate cannot play all HD content. If you are content with SD then you can rip your DVD's to MKV or MP4 but you are still transcoding from the multiple VOBs to a single file. If you are using HD sources like Bluray then you must transcode to lower the resolution. I cannot nor have I seen anyone able to play 1080p content directly on the Galaxy S phones, 720p can be played but why rip to 720p for your phone when it can't display it without reducing the size, nor can you play it with the TV out! Since you are transcoding anyway might as well make it fit the display size and code to a max width of 800 pixels.
Then you have file size issues, a BRD may have a movie in a single m2ts file or multiple m2ts files and most current movies exceed 20GB in size. DVD at a lower resolution can have main movies that uncompress to 4-8GB in size. How the heck are you going to fit them on a microSD card. If you say that your downloaded files aren't that big, it's because someone else transcoded it for you. I like to know what I am getting so personally I would rather transcode it myself, rather than let someone else make those choices for me. Since most of my movies are 1080p I have no other choice but to transcode. I do not want to carry around more than 2 or 3 movies at a time but I also carry about 8GB worth of music. Can't do both unless it is transcoded.
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Just to clarify, when trans-coding with Handbrake for Captivate (Blu Ray):
Picture: 800 x 480 (max)
Video: Codec can either be mpeg 4 (ffmpeg) or H.264 (x264) <---any difference?
Video: Bitrate (kbps) 1500 <---can you go higher (maybe 1800 or 2000) ?
Frame-rate FPS: 30
Audio:
-Codec AAC (faac)
-Mixdown: Stereo
-Sample-rate: 48
-Bitrate: 128
Is that about right? Did I miss anything?
P.S. I own all of my Videos that I trans-code, so there's no need for sacrificing Kittens....lol....

[Q] DVD digital copies

The kids have a few DVD's that allow you to transfer a digital copy to a mobile device, i have transfered one to my PC as WMV but it does not play on the TF .Should i be selecting the I pod option or should i re code the WMV and if so with what format
thanks for any help
Neither will work as most downloaded digital copies are drm protected. Only way to play them is to strip the drm off which is easier said then done
yeah as lordgodgeneral said, no DVD copy will ever work on android because they all have either iTunes, Sony, or WMP DRM in them.
The only way to get your DVDs onto the tablet is to strip the DRM from the digital copies, or rip the DVD to a video file.
neok44 said:
yeah as lordgodgeneral said, no DVD copy will ever work on android because they all have either iTunes, Sony, or WMP DRM in them.
The only way to get your DVDs onto the tablet is to strip the DRM from the digital copies, or rip the DVD to a video file.
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any guides on this and what the best format is ?
Handbreak to rip the movie. Dvd43 can remove copyright protection if you have a 32 bit copy of windows. Anydvd will remove copyright protection on 32 and 64 bit, but cost $69.
I've been using acidrip (which is a simple to use wrapper around mencoder (linux)) for dvds. The avi's play cleanly on transformer; though there is a bit of distortion (I'm beginning to think the transformer pixels are not square) but the videos play without any lag et all.
Haven't tried blu-rays yet; not sure if there is a good solution for linux.
What format to RIP DVD's to for playing on Transformer
I just got my Transformer and I would like to rip some of the Kids and my movies for the long car trips. I was looking into getting DVDFAB DVD Ripper. What format should I rip my DVD's into to run on the Transformer using MoboPlayer? My computer is Windows 7 64 Bit and mostly I have are DVD's and would be loading them to the microSD Card.
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any guides on this and what the best format is ?
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I've had great success with DVD Catalyst 4, which enables you to rip DVDs (including DRM'ed ones) as well as convert existing video files. There are no specific Transformer profiles (yet), but use the Xoom HQ2 profile and you're good to go. Well worth the $9.95.
Ron
dvd fab is fine for ripping the movie it even has option to convert to mp4 for mobile device (but you have to pay for that option).so whats the best setting to convert rips for the transformer
neok44 said:
yeah as lordgodgeneral said, no DVD copy will ever work on android because they all have either iTunes, Sony, or WMP DRM in them.
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Not that it helps the OP in the slightest, but this can be done on certain Android implementations. For example, my Galaxy Tab 7" can play DRM'd WMP titles.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Not that it helps the OP in the slightest, but this can be done on certain Android implementations. For example, my Galaxy Tab 7" can play DRM'd WMP titles.
Regards,
Dave
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yeah guess i should of said stock android.
Honestly this topic is turning into a pretty good place to find out how to work DVDs on the transformer. Hope it stays around since a lot of people are going to need this.
Personally i've used AnyDVD and CloneDVD mobile in the past, but handbreak is a lot better.
i haven't tried DVD catalyst, but if it has a profile for honeycomb, i may have to check that one out. and for only $10 thats a steal.
Another vote for DVD catalyst. Some really good results. Using the Xoom/Honeycomb profile.
Still working of ripping Toy Story 3 though. I own all on DVD, and it would have been great to take TS3 with me to keep the the little-un quiet. He's now addicted to Ice Age, so {{{raspberry}} to you Disney.
I'll second DVD Fab as well, simple and easy to use. 1Click DVD works well also, it really is one click (minus 1 time setup and fiddling).
What's a good solution for blu-rays ?
RedMist said:
Another vote for DVD catalyst. Some really good results. Using the Xoom/Honeycomb profile.
Still working of ripping Toy Story 3 though. I own all on DVD, and it would have been great to take TS3 with me to keep the the little-un quiet. He's now addicted to Ice Age, so {{{raspberry}} to you Disney.
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Thank you
The Toy Stories are a bit picky. 1 and 2 (platinum edition) do work in the current beta, TS3, track 19 should be the correct one. Have a look in the "Problem DVD" section on my website. When I run into issues with DVDs, I list them there (along with what is needed to make them work)
so using handbrake do you just rip it as MP4 settings and it will work on the TF?
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The Toy Stories are a bit picky. 1 and 2 (platinum edition) do work in the current beta, TS3, track 19 should be the correct one. Have a look in the "Problem DVD" section on my website. When I run into issues with DVDs, I list them there (along with what is needed to make them work)
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Does Toy Story 2 Special Edition work? I got Toy Story 1 to work fine with the new beta but Toy Story 2 SE does not work using Track 40.
haupman said:
Does Toy Story 2 Special Edition work? I got Toy Story 1 to work fine with the new beta but Toy Story 2 SE does not work using Track 40.
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The one I have is the bluray + DVD combo Special Edition.
When the selection box shows, it (for some reason) doesn't show times, but with track 40 selected (should be selected by default) just click OK. Scanning will start then restarts to a different scanning mode because the dvd is picky, and after that, the conversion should work fine.
I attached a screenshot of it running on my system using the standard Xoom profile.
If for some reason your DVD is different, you can use VLC or PowerDVD or something to play the DVD on your PC, get to the point where you are actually in the movie, and then look for the title # or track #. This is the the track to use.
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The one I have is the bluray + DVD combo Special Edition.
When the selection box shows, it (for some reason) doesn't show times, but with track 40 selected (should be selected by default) just click OK. Scanning will start then restarts to a different scanning mode because the dvd is picky, and after that, the conversion should work fine.
I attached a screenshot of it running on my system using the standard Xoom profile.
If for some reason your DVD is different, you can use VLC or PowerDVD or something to play the DVD on your PC, get to the point where you are actually in the movie, and then look for the title # or track #. This is the the track to use.
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I have the same DVD combo also. I tried it with the Transformer profile on the beta DVD Catalyst and the output file could not be played. I'm guessing the Xoom and Transformer profiles are the same, but I will give it another try.
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I have the same DVD combo also. I tried it with the Transformer profile on the beta DVD Catalyst and the output file could not be played. I'm guessing the Xoom and Transformer profiles are the same, but I will give it another try.
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Correct, the Transformer profiles are copies of the Xoom profiles. Since it uses the same hardware internally (tegra2) and runs the same OS, it has the same capabilities and limitations regarding video playback.
The movie finished. Attached screenshots:
shot of finished in dvdcat, shot of movie playing in quicktime, and shot of xoom playing the video.
both Toy Stories I worked on for Beta 4, so if you are using beta3 or older, they will not work. beta5 is the latest one.

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