Hi,
I saw people here tinkering with the HD2's built-in radio antenna to get TMC broadcasts.
Is it possible to use it in order to recieve DVB broadcasts and using some kind of software which uses appropriate codecs (like TCPMP or the discontinued VLC) to watch them?
Interested to hear your thoughts...
Not possible.
one other thing...
The HD2 doesn't have a builtin radio antenna.
kenkiller said:
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now comes the part where you explain why...
spastik,
what i meant was that it has the ability to recieve radio transmissions, although using headset as antenna.
what i'm asking is there any hardware limitations (lack of ability to recieve certain bands like UHF maybe) that would make it impossible. software wise, the sky is the limit - especially for XDA-DEV
gorelshv said:
now comes the part where you explain why...
spastik,
what i meant was that it has the ability to recieve radio transmissions, although using headset as antenna.
what i'm asking is there any hardware limitations (lack of ability to recieve certain bands like UHF maybe) that would make it impossible. software wise, the sky is the limit - especially for XDA-DEV
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FM radio is in the lower band of VHF. Most television transmissions are UHF, so no, it is not possible even in software, as the hardware decoder wouldn't be able to cope with UHF frequencies.
Ok, I understand.
Thanks a lot!
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Hi,
I recently bought a Kaiser. I think it's great. Only thing missing is an FM radio. Or is it?
I think it's accurate to say that the only real difference between the Kaiser and the Polaris is the keyboard. They have the same Qualcomm chipset, same amount of memory, the lot. So why then does the Polaris have an FM radio and the Kaiser does not?
Does anybody know if anybody has attempted to "lift" the radio programs out of the Polaris for testing in the Kaiser?
Alan
Dublin, Ireland
Most of us are still waiting for the polaris to be officialy released
arabbitte said:
So why then does the Polaris have an FM radio and the Kaiser does not?
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Kaiser is supposed to be a "Professional" device and FM Radio is not one of it's features.
arabbitte said:
Does anybody know if anybody has attempted to "lift" the radio programs out of the Polaris for testing in the Kaiser?
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This is not possible because it is not only software but mostly hardware issue.
> Kaiser is supposed to be a "Professional" device and FM Radio is not one of it's features.
Hey, I'm a "professional" and I want a radio ;-)
>This is not possible because it is not only software but mostly hardware issue.
Ok, but as far as I know the hardware is identical, so this means it should just be missing software.
Hmm..
Just because the chipset and memory is identical, doesnt mean the rest of the hardware is identical.
Anyways.. I think O2's version of the Kaiser has radio. Go check it out.
yeah fm radio require a whole different radio chip compared to gsm
software is not enough to change it so gsm/umts at <800Ghz and are digital start recieving analog signals at around 100Ghz
MasK said:
Hmm..
Just because the chipset and memory is identical, doesnt mean the rest of the hardware is identical.
Anyways.. I think O2's version of the Kaiser has radio. Go check it out.
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Ο2 is identical to Kaiser... which means that this was a mistyping error. O2 version does not have FM radio and most sites have corrected their previous posts.
Rudegar said:
yeah fm radio require a whole different radio chip compared to gsm
software is not enough to change it so gsm/umts at <800Ghz and are digital start recieving analog signals at around 100Ghz
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Understood, but do you remember when the Trinity (aka 3600) was updated after launch with GPS? It had GPS all the time, but it wasn't activated on the original models.
I know the Polaris and Kaiser have the same hardware and only appear to differ with the keyboard. So if GPS can be activated on the Trinity, why not FM Radio on the Kaiser?
I'm assuming the FM on the Polaris is not built in to the headset ...
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Understood, but do you remember when the Trinity (aka 3600) was updated after launch with GPS? It had GPS all the time, but it wasn't activated on the original models.
I know the Polaris and Kaiser have the same hardware and only appear to differ with the keyboard. So if GPS can be activated on the Trinity, why not FM Radio on the Kaiser?
I'm assuming the FM on the Polaris is not built in to the headset ...
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Trinity always had built-in GPS. Kaiser does not have FM Radio built-in. I don't want to disappoint you but this is the truth my friend.
athanaso77 said:
Trinity always had built-in GPS. Kaiser does not have FM Radio built-in. I don't want to disappoint you but this is the truth my friend.
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Oh dear
This is the first time I heard that there are actually hardware differences that would prevent FM radio functionality from being available on the Kaiser. It sounds like you know what you are talking about - I assumed that the Qualcom chipset that is common to both would mean FM radio was possible on the Kaiser. Does the Polaris have a different or upgraded chipset to the Kaiser or does the FM radio come from additional hardware?
Go on, I can handle the truth (albeit with considerable difficulty ...)
the radio only seem to work when the headset is connected
meaning that it use the headset wire as antenne which mean
that even if the fm radio was in the cpu not having wireing to an
antenna would mean that it could not recieve radio
Rudegar said:
the radio only seem to work when the headset is connected
meaning that it use the headset wire as antenne which mean
that even if the fm radio was in the cpu not having wireing to an
antenna would mean that it could not recieve radio
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I think all FM-equipped phones work like this. A friends 3300 has a headset just like my Kaiser. So no problems having to use the supplied headset then.
So, if not in the Qualcomm 7200 and not in the headset, just where is the FM?
a phone have more components then it's main cpu and the headset
if you look in the various wiki's for devices where they are opened
it's full of various IC's
if Qualcomm 7200 is not spec'd as having fm radio on Qualcomm's site
htc put another fm radio chip on the pcb to handle the fm radio
fm radio is a pretty old teck so i would understand why Qualcomm would not put too much work into having it on chip
Exactly!!!
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if Qualcomm 7200 is not spec'd as having fm radio on Qualcomm's site
htc put another fm radio chip on the pcb to handle the fm radio
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Look, I know I'm sounding desperate here, but you do say if. I have actually looked at the schematics for the 7200 but there is so much detail, it's impossible for me to see if/where FM radio functionality might be lurking.
So, do we know for a fact that FM radio is not part of the 7200? (Forgive my pedantic questioning - I'm desperate! ;-))
cant say 100% but all the techs are listed and fm is not so i would guess another chip is used
http://www.cdmatech.com/platforms/convergenceplatform/msm7200_chipset_solution.jsp#top
http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/msm7200_chipset.pdf
you can look in wiki for pcb pics of the other devices with fm to see if you can see a fm chip on any of their pcb's
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LSo, do we know for a fact that FM radio is not part of the 7200? (Forgive my pedantic questioning - I'm desperate! ;-))
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Why don't you buy this?
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you can look in wiki for pcb pics of the other devices with fm to see if you can see a fm chip on any of their pcb's
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I had a quick look, but didn't see anything. Then again, I'm not an expert ...
Now that some time has passed since the last update in this thread, is anybody out there any more knowlegable about the possibility of an "FM extract" ?
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Why don't you buy this?
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I had a look and it's an interesting device, but ...
No screen interface, station selection a bit bit and miss
Bigger than just headphones
I already have a Jabra wireless for car use, so this is overapping functionality
(my biggest issue)It needs it's own seperate power supply for recharging purposes. I'm big into convergence (that's why I bought the Kaiser!) so this is a no no
Some progress on this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355524&page=210#2095
Now, it's not working. Yet.
Anyone have any comments on the possibility of the Polaris headset having something in it that the Kaiser's doesn't - & thus preventing the FM application from working in Kaiserland?
The thing is, I still find it hard to understand why HTC would change or add to the hardware of the Polaris just to get FM working - especially when the target audience for the 2 devices cannot be that different. Surely there is a big cost to make any mods on a standard platform?
But of course, this could simply be wishfull thinking on my side
Does the Fuze have IR and what is a good quality program for this?
As well, since it has Radio capability would that be possible to have RF remote.. NOW, that would be awesome.
christian15213 said:
Does the Fuze have IR
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No, it doesn't.
Even if it did, its been my experience that the remote control apps never work all that well because the IR is never strong enough to be very effective.
Having said that, Salling Clicker is a pretty cool app that allows you to remotely control your PC via bluetooth or WiFi.
yea but what about an RF signal... i mean if this thing has FM radio why not...
christian15213 said:
yea but what about an RF signal... i mean if this thing has FM radio why not...
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I think u need to transmit radio frequencies....I believe the radio is only a receiver...
I use a Slingbox and and can control and see everything in my family room TV.
galfert said:
I use a Slingbox and and can control and see everything in my family room TV.
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I dont think thats what they meant they meant actually using your phone as a universal remote itself not having your tv piped to your phone. Back when I used to have the palm treo 650 I was able to use a program on it that allowed me to control my tv. The range was garbage though. We're talking about 4 feet.
I guess the only way we'll know is if someone actually tries!
for range, you gotta specifically have consumer-IR, or C-IR in order to get any usable distance, but i haven't noticed C-IR in a few years at least (ipaq h2215 comes to mind quickly) and IR is starting to fall off completely, which i don't care about since none of them are the C-IR anyways
Hi All,
is there any FM transmitter app out there, if so, can some one please redirect me to the right link..
i could not able to locate the file.
thanks
HD2 doesn't have an FM transmitter...
LionheartUK said:
HD2 doesn't have an FM transmitter...
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Yes it does and no a app doesn't exist yet...wish it did though
Yeah, HD2 do have hardware for FM transmitting, but unfortunately no developers are keen to built an app for it...
why does htc make phones with a lot of hardware (like fm transmitting on leo, wifi on touch dual) but doesn't activate it?!?
someone NEEDS to come up with that app
LionheartUK said:
HD2 doesn't have an FM transmitter...
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Right
HD2 doesn't have hardware for an FM transmitter
MGOoO said:
Right
HD2 doesn't have hardware for an FM transmitter
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ok then, no fm transmitter then... on some places and forums people say there is one, so i don't know what it is anymore...
some issues
Hi,
My HD2 have about 2 months when i got it
and i need to tell you that twice i had strange situation :
In my work we have a public radio connected straight to intercom.
Twice there was a strange situation when i was playing some music
with Media Player. Everyone in my work have heard the same music
that i was playing on my HD2 . Maybe it is a problem with intercom
inside my company , but signal transmitting was noticed.
Wifi was off.
I always have very poor/zero reception with my standard network ( Orange )
so i think it could be network related.
You know ...searching a network ... getting acces to intercom for a short moment
and then transmitting .
Who knows.. but its possible .
Even a HTC didn't know that someone will create a program to
change HD2 into METAL DETECTOR .
(----sorry for my language----hope you will understand-----)
Anyone out there know of a working fm tuner? I tried the Bionic version with no luck.
Sent from my XT1080m using Tapatalk
This phone lacks the necessary hardware for fm tuner
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that the Snapdragon processor supports the FM tuner but the software does not... If you were able to flash a custom kernel that supported it then it should work no problem. It's just that Google doesn't like FM tuners for some reason... same problem that the Nexus 4 had.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that the Snapdragon processor supports the FM tuner but the software does not... If you were able to flash a custom kernel that supported it then it should work no problem. It's just that Google doesn't like FM tuners for some reason... same problem that the Nexus 4 had.
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I am not 100% of where I can reference this, but I am a BIG FM radio listener during college football season, and when this was last brought up I believe the issue is that the hardware, while present, is hard coded OFF in the firmware by Verizon.
No amount of modding can turn it on, short of unlocking the bootloader.
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I am not 100% of where I can reference this, but I am a BIG FM radio listener during college football season, and when this was last brought up I believe the issue is that the hardware, while present, is hard coded OFF in the firmware by Verizon.
No amount of modding can turn it on, short of unlocking the bootloader.
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My point exactly. You would have to flash a modified kernel that supports FM tuning. I think a lot of it has to do with the Google Play Music store and their online radio stations that they offer.
TuneIn Radio has completely destroyed FM radio for me. Even on my Moto G, it just sounds clearer.
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TuneIn Radio has completely destroyed FM radio for me. Even on my Moto G, it just sounds clearer.
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I agree that is sounds clear and clean. But inside a stadium, trying to listen to play by play, a 8 second delay does more harm than good.
There is a spot for internet radio, but also FM radio as well
lawmangrant said:
I agree that is sounds clear and clean. But inside a stadium, trying to listen to play by play, a 8 second delay does more harm than good.
There is a spot for internet radio, but also FM radio as well
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If that's your main reason for it, I can see that being a big factor.
Don't know if you're willing to invest in other stuff, but the Sansa Clip is about $20-30 now and can play/record FM radio pretty well.
DaemonAshra said:
If that's your main reason for it, I can see that being a big factor.
Don't know if you're willing to invest in other stuff, but the Sansa Clip is about $20-30 now and can play/record FM radio pretty well.
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I have a portable HD radio and iPad nano that both handle FM nicely. But I would love to only have to carry one device.
I just hate that Big Red continues to cripple devices to push data driven services, and then cap the data. I mean, they are making money hand over fist, but it's still annoying.
this is an old thread, but since we are now bootloader unlockable, is this FM radio thing a possibility?
Hello,
I would know if is it possible to activated the radio fm chip of the Qualcomm snapdragon 845 on the Oneplus 6 smartphone ?
Thank you and best regard
there are no "chip" for fm radio.
The poco phone F1 have FM radio and have the same snapdragon 845. Its not way to activate on one plus 6
This Rom has an FM radio enabled
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/development/rom-aospextended-rom-v5-7-t3825642
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This Rom has an FM radio enabled
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/development/rom-aospextended-rom-v5-7-t3825642
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Just because it's on the list doesn't mean it's even for the OP6..
Most have a template for xda and Aex has probably forgotten to remove FM radio [emoji6]
If the chip is not activated then FM radio does not work..
OP6 has not activated the chip and can only be activated by the manufacturer...
Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
What does it take to 'activate' and why isn't OnePlus doing it?
Ash110 said:
What does it take to 'activate' and why isn't OnePlus doing it?
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You would have to integrate it into the firmware, but they dont advertise it as a feature so I doubt that will happen.
Obamaloominaty said:
You would have to integrate it into the firmware, but they dont advertise it as a feature so I doubt that will happen.
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I remember reading articles like Samsung enables FM radio after the update and stuff. Can't OnePlus do that? Also, what's the harm with keeping an extra FM radio app? Does it drain the battery in the background? Why are more companies removing it?
gaal2886 said:
The poco phone F1 have FM radio and have the same snapdragon 845. Its not way to activate on one plus 6
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The 845 doesn't have a FM radio chip in it bro
Ash110 said:
I remember reading articles like Samsung enables FM radio after the update and stuff. Can't OnePlus do that? Also, what's the harm with keeping an extra FM radio app? Does it drain the battery in the background? Why are more companies removing it?
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I assume they could if they really wanted to. It's up to then though
845 specs
stefal639 said:
there are no "chip" for fm radio.
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Snapdragon 845 specs say that the wifi and bluetooth chip also has fm on it
Yes the Snapdragon 845 does indeed have an FM chip. If you don't believe it go to Google and type Snapdragon 845 FM radio. Also it has to be turned on Via firmware on OnePlus side
Using FM always sucks anyway, because you have to have headphones plugged in to get reception.
Ash110 said:
I remember reading articles like Samsung enables FM radio after the update and stuff. Can't OnePlus do that? Also, what's the harm with keeping an extra FM radio app? Does it drain the battery in the background? Why are more companies removing it?
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I think FM radio is getting obsolete coz of all the music streaming apps and faster internet so most ppl don't use FM anymore
vinnievegas said:
Using FM always sucks anyway, because you have to have headphones plugged in to get reception.
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Then why are you replying to this thread anyway? If you don't use a feature, then don't use a feature. Why does it matter to you that someone else wants to use a feature that you don't? Think about a feature that you like and use and there is probably someone else that doesn't like or care about that feature at all. If the hardware supports it and the software enables it for everyone, you just won't use it, but it can make a lot of people who do use it much happier.
As for why FM is still useful for some people. Not everyone has unlimited data or consistent wifi connections everywhere they go. There are also times where even if you had unlimited data and wifi, there's no connection, or servers are overloaded, such as a natural disaster (earthquake, hurricane, etc) where you could still listen in on FM if your phone had the hardware and software to do so and you have a headphone cable to connect as an antenna.