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The site Popular Electronics (I have no personal connection of any kind) advertises for sale a 850 MHz Touch pro
http://www.popularelect.com/product...id=CNPmmfGZhJUCFQRJFQod5VhbrQ&tab=2&osCsid=10
and it specifies that it has an 850 MHz capability:
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz (Band frequency and data speed are operator dependent)
Is this for real? All sites I have checked so far specify that the 850MHz version is not available as yet.
If the information of this site is for real, would it work for AT&T?
what a thousand dollar phone
these chinese pricks are getting ridiculous !!!(HTC)
In relation to my question: Is the 850 MHz part for real?
The actual store, btw, is in Chicago.
Correct if I'm wrong, but AFAIK all Pros are quad band GSM.
Yes, all of them have 850mhz available. And it's not Chinese, smart guy.
michalopoulosgk said:
it specifies that it has an 850 MHz capability:
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz (Band frequency and data speed are operator dependent)
Is this for real? All sites I have checked so far specify that the 850MHz version is not available as yet.
If the information of this site is for real, would it work for AT&T?
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It is for real. Check out the specifications on the main htc website it says exactly the same thing. The Europe/Asia version will work on Verizon, but you won't be able to get WCDMA speeds. The US version has 850/1900 WCDMA, whereas the Europe/Asia version as mentioned on the HTC site has 900/2100. Would be nice if they could make one with all 4 WCDMA's
I have definitely seen some sites that claim the Touch Pro is only Tri-Band, but the HTC site would be the one to go by seeing as they made it an all
WCDMA (3G) is where it differs. All Touch Pro's do NOT have 850mhz WCDMA. You can get service everywhere, but only 3G in areas with 900/2100mhz 3G... AT&T uses 850/1900 for 3G.
Black93300ZX said:
WCDMA (3G) is where it differs. All Touch Pro's do NOT have 850mhz WCDMA. You can get service everywhere, but only 3G in areas with 900/2100mhz 3G... AT&T uses 850/1900 for 3G.
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lol I just saw your last post in the release date thread and edited my response, but I was too slow
Many thanks to all, this was very helpful.
Black93300ZX said:
Yes, all of them have 850mhz available. And it's not Chinese, smart guy.
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No they do not all have it activated, smart guy ....look here at the official Dutch HTC site specs:
http://www.htc.com/nl/product.aspx?id=54146
No 850mhz band... not even for gsm (voice) function. Its a triband not quadband....
And after browsing this forum for weeks now its still not clear to me if the 850mhz band can be activated with just a rom/radio update..... a lot of different opinions in here....
Somebody knows the 'truth'?
t-mobile usa is rolling out with 3g for bands 1700 to 2100
merten3000 said:
No they do not all have it activated, smart guy ....look here at the official Dutch HTC site specs:
http://www.htc.com/nl/product.aspx?id=54146
No 850mhz band... not even for gsm (voice) function. Its a triband not quadband....
And after browsing this forum for weeks now its still not clear to me if the 850mhz band can be activated with just a rom/radio update..... a lot of different opinions in here....
Somebody knows the 'truth'?
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First of all, it is a ROM flash, second, their specs page for english used to say triband too but they changed it to quad band...
I have a friend who works for ATT and just tested the new HTC Touch Pro (Raphael) and said that ATT is planning on releasing them in November, code named "ATT Fusion."
Of course, they claim it's real...
michalopoulosgk said:
The site Popular Electronics (I have no personal connection of any kind) advertises for sale a 850 MHz Touch pro...
If the information of this site is for real, would it work for AT&T?
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These guys say (of course) they got a few in stock and they sold quickly. These are actually the EUROPE/ASIA version but the rep claims they are Quadband and that 3G works on both AT&T and T-Mobile (US). They are getting more in next week.
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_58&products_id=1026
Hmmmm....who to believe?????
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DeniaL said:
I have a friend who works for ATT and just tested the new HTC Touch Pro (Raphael) and said that ATT is planning on releasing them in November, code named "ATT Fusion."
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That's interesting. Did he get to take any pictures by any slight chance?
The more I read the more I get confused.....are the phones (if as advertised) in the site mentioned on post 14 likely to be working with ATT 3G?
UMTS/HSDPA for 850/900/1900/2100 on Touch Pro
I also keep on hearing this regarding bands on the Touch Pro. Can the UMTS/HSDPA band be activated for 850/900/1900/2100 by just flashing a custom ROM or changing the Radio Version? Please someone answer this....
This is something i want to know as well. I've been doing quite a bit of searching with no answer as of yet.
I live 40 minutes from Chicago and have asked this company about AT&T, Quad Band, and actual prodoct availability.
If they have them in stock, I will drive to their store, insert my AT&T SIM card and see if it will actually work.
But first, let's see if they respond to my questions.
Good deal...
someara said:
I live 40 minutes from Chicago and have asked this company about AT&T, Quad Band, and actual prodoct availability.
If they have them in stock, I will drive to their store, insert my AT&T SIM card and see if it will actually work.
But first, let's see if they respond to my questions.
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Yea...I'm close to these guys too. Actually there are about 5 electronics storefront stores all next door to each other over there on W. Devon in Chicago. I bought my last 4 unlocked GSM phones from that area. Oddly enough, Popular Electronics have NEVER been the first to have any of the phones I wanted. For the past 2 years their usual answer has been "It will be here MONDAY." But "MONDAY" takes months to come!
The guys next door at Overseas Electronics (http://www.welectronics.com/) have always gotten the phones FIRST in that area--including the TyTN II. Even the other store next door to them (http://bargainoffers.com/catalog/default.php) get the hottest GSM phones before Pop Elect. This time though, Overseas say about 3-4 weeks out for the Touch Pro...so I'm really interested to know if Pop Elect actually gets them FOR REAL "by MONDAY" this time.
Please keep us informed. Thanks!!
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will the new touch pro from devicewire in the uk work on at&t's 3g network? thanks
wordsworth03 said:
will the new touch pro from devicewire in the uk work on at&t's 3g network? thanks
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No, 900/2100mhz UMTS, AT&T uses 850/1900mhz.
wordsworth03 said:
will the new touch pro from devicewire in the uk work on at&t's 3g network? thanks
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Well, that's the million dollar question, isn't it? Many of us are waiting to find out the answer. The AT&T ROM which has already been released on this site should enable access to UMTS 850/1900 bands which AT&T uses. The question is does this phone have the hardware to support this or will the US version have different hardware to access these bands. The answer to this question should be revealed in the next day or two as UK versions of this phone start showing up on US doorsteps including mine.
great, thanks for the response...please keep us updated! i want to pull the trigger very badly on one of these and i have very little patience!
I know it sounds stupid but why go through the trouble of purposefully crippling the european version? I dunno it just sounds weird to me, and more like their deal with att ( att doesnt want tons of these being imported before they release their version ) is causing this lack of U.S. UMTS via firmware.
Well the Diamonds over there can't get UMTS because they don't have the 850/1900 UMTS radio, the hardware was removed to make it smaller. We're hoping the Raphael has the same hardware, but you never know if that's the case.
let's just hope they don't name it something stupid,I don't know how well the sugar trick would work on the surface of the Touch Pro to remove any stupid branding att puts on the phone. ATT manages to make HTC's sexy into slight trailer trash every time.
migsims said:
let's just hope they don't name it something stupid,I don't know how well the sugar trick would work on the surface of the Touch Pro to remove any stupid branding att puts on the phone. ATT manages to make HTC's sexy into slight trailer trash every time.
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AT&T Fusion is what we're hearing.
I just spoke to HTC tech support, the guy said that there is a touch pro version in Hong Kong that works on the UMTS 850, which would mean that it would work on ATT 3G here in the US, he gave me a number for the HTC kiosk in Beijing (they have a tech support location there during the Olympics for HTC customers visiting) the number he gave me is 400-700-7011, its in china i haven't been able to get through. He also said there is a ROM upgrade for the Hong Kong version that would enable 3G on the 850 band. I am just as confused as I was before I called.
gatordent said:
I just spoke to HTC tech support, the guy said that there is a touch pro version in Hong Kong that works on the UMTS 850, which would mean that it would work on ATT 3G here in the US, he gave me a number for the HTC kiosk in Beijing (they have a tech support location there during the Olympics for HTC customers visiting) the number he gave me is 400-700-7011, its in china i haven't been able to get through. He also said there is a ROM upgrade for the Hong Kong version that would enable 3G on the 850 band. I am just as confused as I was before I called.
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That's the 850 GSM, not UMTS. Yes, this has been covered with the Diamond, a ROM update enabled the 850mhz GSM band for it to be quad-band.
Black93300ZX said:
That's the 850 GSM, not UMTS. Yes, this has been covered with the Diamond, a ROM update enabled the 850mhz GSM band for it to be quad-band.
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The tech made it sound like it was a different Hardware version, he may not know what he is talking about, but i was able to contact the people in China (through skype) but they were not helpful. She gave me the HTC Hong Kong number I'll try them later. Hopefully we can rule out the fact that there might be hardware differences.
gatordent said:
The tech made it sound like it was a different Hardware version, he may not know what he is talking about, but i was able to contact the people in China (through skype) but they were not helpful. She gave me the HTC Hong Kong number I'll try them later. Hopefully we can rule out the fact that there might be hardware differences.
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Well if you can find anything with the hardware ID of RAPH110, I can personally guarantee it has the hardware to run on AT&T 3G. Other than that, we'll see within the next few days as people will be getting and testing RAPH100's with the AT&T ROM.
bersca said:
Well, that's the million dollar question, isn't it? Many of us are waiting to find out the answer. The AT&T ROM which has already been released on this site should enable access to UMTS 850/1900 bands which AT&T uses. The question is does this phone have the hardware to support this or will the US version have different hardware to access these bands. The answer to this question should be revealed in the next day or two as UK versions of this phone start showing up on US doorsteps including mine.
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We are just in progress to buy the Raphael or tp wait for the Xperia. We are travelling to Europe and Asia,but live in the US. As a result we want the UMTS working on 850, 1900 and 2100. Can you figure out if this is a hardware issue or a ROM update. I tseems the Xperia can do it, but we dont like to wait much longer and would like to go with Raphael but the UMTS is a working issue....
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We are just in progress to buy the Raphael or tp wait for the Xperia. We are travelling to Europe and Asia,but live in the US. As a result we want the UMTS working on 850, 1900 and 2100. Can you figure out if this is a hardware issue or a ROM update. I tseems the Xperia can do it, but we dont like to wait much longer and would like to go with Raphael but the UMTS is a working issue....
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This has been said many times, AT THIS TIME, NO ONE CAN GUARANTEE. In the next few days it will be tested, keep an eye out on the forum.
Good afternoon,
First sorry for the bad English, but only speak Portuguese.
I bought a Touch Pro and it does not work on network 850mhz, 900mhz only in network. Its change it?
I seen that it is possible for the Diamond.
If possible, can someone help me?
Grateful
Where did you buy the phone from?
are you talking about voice voice call 850mhz? if it is, touch pro should be able to handle 850mhz.
but if you are talking about 3G 850mhz, i think only the US version supports it
Fred Flintstones said:
Good afternoon,
First sorry for the bad English, but only speak Portuguese.
I bought a Touch Pro and it does not work on network 850mhz, 900mhz only in network. Its change it?
I seen that it is possible for the Diamond.
If possible, can someone help me?
Grateful
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If you are looking for the 850mhz 3G band then I would buy the HTC Fuze from at&t in the United States. I believe you should be able to purchase one for $500 without a contract. Given that you are in Portugal and on the Euro that would be about 355.40 Euros
I don't know if they ship the phone internationally but it's worth a try at least.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?device=HTC+FUZE%28TM%29&q_sku=sku3090226
I'm sure you could also find a unlocked HTC Fuze on e-bay as well.
Can you return the Touch Pro?
Thanks for your help.
I am here in Brazil and have 2 3G networks, a 850mhz and a 2100mhz. The same operator has the two networks, depends on the state. In my state is 850mhz, in the neighboring state is 2100mhz. How much need the travel unit with the 2 bands.
It would be possible to change the ROM him to work on both bands?
Thanks
Fred Flintstones said:
Thanks for your help.
I am here in Brazil and have 2 3G networks, a 850mhz and a 2100mhz. The same operator has the two networks, depends on the state. In my state is 850mhz, in the neighboring state is 2100mhz. How much need the travel unit with the 2 bands.
It would be possible to change the ROM him to work on both bands?
Thanks
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I wish it were that easy. As far as I know and unless there has been some break through that I don't know about it I don't think it's possible.
Hi,
I flush my VF magic with 2.22.19.23I and I think he has a problem with 3g networks (somehow)
anyway, can anyone pls provide a link with the 2.22.19.26I Radio version for Magic?
btw, why does Nandroid won't backup the radio image?
Thx
anyone? someone?
dmanbuhnik said:
anyone? someone?
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I guess that the official one from htc web page for the Ion would be enough.
The hardware should be the same as the vodafone one.
PV32B
http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/google-io-device.html
thx,
but google ion is for t-mobile network is it?
i mean, he uses 1700/2100 MHz and not the "regular" 900/1800
will it be ok to use this?
ups, you are absolutely true. I didn't even look at the bands, just focused in the platform.
Sorry for that huge mistake. I would feel really awful if i would have screwed your device by accident.
dmanbuhnik said:
not the "regular" 900/1800
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see now theres your biggest problem. every country besides the US and Canada uses the 900/2100 combination and technically the tmobile US UMTS band is more like 2050
First thing - no phone was harm
About the freq. - r u sure about the numbers? I got UK VF and it works in my country (Israel) w/o any problem (the issue with the 3G was apn settings only)
I think my carrier is 800/1900
http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
hope it helps
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Cell-Phone-Detail.aspx?cell-phone=MyTouch-3G-Black
A link to the mytouch and the frequencies it will use.
Thx!
The freq of T-Mobile in myTouch are the same as the Nokia 5800 that are sold here in israel
so... i would be able to use the ota radio updates US phones will get
Hello everyone. I just got my Touch Pro 2 from Telus and got it sim-unlocked. I am using it with Rogers wireless. So far so good. Except that 3G does not work Oh well..
mmmhhh86 said:
Hello everyone. I just got my Touch Pro 2 from Telus and got it sim-unlocked. I am using it with Rogers wireless. So far so good. Except that 3G does not work Oh well..
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Same thing with T-Mobile TP2 on AT&T network. Compare Rogers and Telus 3G bands. It might be different.
not to sound rude, but is the telus 3g (hspa) network even up yet?
slight22 said:
not to sound rude, but is the telus 3g (hspa) network even up yet?
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lol yeah I think so. I think its called 1x or something like that. I'm not very familiar with the CDMA phones but they advertise that you can use the phone to surf 3G speeds on their network so I'm pretty sure they have 3G speeds.
Sorry, but i'm using TELUS and the HSPA network won't be up till next year and trust me, Telus speeds now are NOTHING close to 3G.
I'm not sure how they are advertising these 3G speeds but 1x is actually slower than what Telus is currently using which is EVDO.
slight22 said:
Sorry, but i'm using TELUS and the HSPA network won't be up till next year and trust me, Telus speeds now are NOTHING close to 3G.
I'm not sure how they are advertising these 3G speeds but 1x is actually slower than what Telus is currently using which is EVDO.
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i dont think thats true at all. i get speeds of up to 2.8mg downlink and 500k up.
ive downloaded while tethering upwards up 300kb/s. you might be in an area with 1x coverage, and not EVDO. PLUS make sure the device you are using isnt just EVDO, it has to be EVDO REV A. (touch pro, diamond, touch pro 2, touch, etc). Hope you get better speeds. CHears
Telus EVDO is not slow. Unfortunately the HDPA network is not up yet but it should be online VERY soon as the Olympics are drawing close and this is the reason why Telus is upgrading the network before Feb. 2010 here in Vancouver.
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i dont think thats true at all. i get speeds of up to 2.8mg downlink and 500k up.
ive downloaded while tethering upwards up 300kb/s. you might be in an area with 1x coverage, and not EVDO. PLUS make sure the device you are using isnt just EVDO, it has to be EVDO REV A. (touch pro, diamond, touch pro 2, touch, etc). Hope you get better speeds. CHears
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Where the heck are you located?? I'm using a TP2 with full EV signal and i'm getting 400-600k and that's in the downtown core. And from what telus tells me thats the best they can do till they put the HSPA network up. They said CDMA is only capable of 7-750k max, there is no getting over that. But i'd love to know how your getting 2.8 meg, because technically thats roughly 2100k faster than what telus says we can get.
And Jessie is right Telus has a goal to sell phones during the olympics and they plan to have the HSPA up by then.
Yup I'm pretty sure I saw Telus advertising their high speed somewhere
im using a physical sim-card thingy to allow other sim cards to work in my telus TP2, it works (since it does not give me the regular error and i can see the numbers in it), but how do I stop it from using CDMA and go on GSM only?
Guys
I'm hoping you can help us no CDMA users with this question.
Considering that the CDMA TP2 has both GSM and CDMA radios, can I pop in a GSM SIM CARD and enjoy full GSM coverage including use of Asia and European 3G bands?
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Guys
I'm hoping you can help us no CDMA users with this question.
Considering that the CDMA TP2 has both GSM and CDMA radios, can I pop in a GSM SIM CARD and enjoy full GSM coverage including use of Asia and European 3G bands?
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Yes you can use it on GSM networks. If you want to use the phone on a SIM other that the company's provided sim you need to sim-unlock it. The 3G will work in Asia and Europe but not in North AMerica because the bands are different and the TP2 supports those of Asia and Europe only (the North American CDMA version).
julienrl said:
im using a physical sim-card thingy to allow other sim cards to work in my telus TP2, it works (since it does not give me the regular error and i can see the numbers in it), but how do I stop it from using CDMA and go on GSM only?
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Go to Phone Settings and select the Network tab then select GSM only instead of Global or CDMA
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Yes you can use it on GSM networks. If you want to use the phone on a SIM other that the company's provided sim you need to sim-unlock it. The 3G will work in Asia and Europe but not in North AMerica because the bands are different and the TP2 supports those of Asia and Europe only (the North American CDMA version).
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It is quadband gsm.... works on all continents.... provided it is unlocked or you are paying for global roaming.
hello guys, im going to purchase verizon tp2 cause they say it supports gsm and cheaper than the generic nonbranded version. tmobile's design i dislike. so as im going to use it only with gsm sim, i have such questions, are there any differences in use between gsm and vzw versions except i must select gsm mode? can i flash it with generic tp2 roms?
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okay, seems to be cdma versions cant be flashed to gsm as it is another model id(rhod400 and rhod500)
so i have one more question, will i be able to use internet on vzw tp2 without any restrictions on its stock rom now, when hardspl have not been released yet?
Just to be sure I understand if I want to buy a TP2 in Canada...
The Telus version will not be able to use GSN (Fido/Rogers) 3G network because the 3G bands are not the same as the TP2 from the United-States and Europe?
If so, would this version of the TP2 work with Fido/Rogers GSM 3g ?
http://www.puremobile.ca/HTC/HTC-Touch-Pro2-Black-GSM-Phone/
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Just to be sure I understand if I want to buy a TP2 in Canada...
The Telus version will not be able to use GSN (Fido/Rogers) 3G network because the 3G bands are not the same as the TP2 from the United-States and Europe?
If so, would this version of the TP2 work with Fido/Rogers GSM 3g ?
http://www.puremobile.ca/HTC/HTC-Touch-Pro2-Black-GSM-Phone/
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I dont think so. I dont think there's a PRO 2 that supports our North American 3G bands.. At least not yet.. For the question above. Yes it is GSM quadband but not 3G quadband. This is different. It is 3G dualband and supports those of Asia and Europe only. Unfortunately.
That's a good and clear answer! Thx !
No problem. I think when and if AT&T or some North American GSM carrier releases the TP2, then the 3G will definitely work here in NA. Otherwise the current versions only support Asia and Europe.
Another question, can we install a custom ROM on the worldphone telus Touch Pro 2 like the other GSM phones? (I dont think so but I found two opposite answers on this forum).