Windows Mobile 6.5 & Bluetooth A2DP - THE HORROR! - General Questions and Answers

SOLVED!!!
Hi there,
Ever since I have my Touch Diamond and My cherished Nokia A2DP headset, I've been enjoying wireless music, calling and everything at the touch of a few buttons on my headset.
Recently I finally flashed to winmo 6.5, and I also decided that Touchflo was costing me too much precious memory. So I flashed to a nice clean rom (BsB).
Everything cool so far, that is, until I tried my BT headset. With out the touchflo player you're automatically dependent on windows media player, and if there is one piece of software that makes listening to music a b*tch it's wmp. So I installed pocketmusic. Everything fine so far. but the controls on my bt headset stubbornly only work with AND automatically start WMP. very irritating. after extensive searching of the beloved XDA forums I found out that this was a known problem. WMP Hijacking BT controls.
And finally it appeared I had found the solution: T-back's 6.5 BT driver.cab
This was supposed to give back the control of Bluetooth to the program running at the moment. all the coments left in said thread were joyous, it works, it's alive...
So I installed it, and too my suprise it did indeed stop WMP from hijacking the controls and also assigned the controls to pocketmusic...
Unfortunatly it also stopped the audio from going to my Bt headset, which kind of beats the purpose of a bluetooth headset.
So now I'm back to listening to music without T-back's driver, on my BT headset, and having to control my music on screen, which is a little irritating.
I've allready replied to the thread in hopes of getting a solution or something, but unfortunatly no reply.
I'm hoping someone beter technically endowed than me can give me a solution for this problem, this is the only thing standing between me, and my perfect rom!
HELP
Note, I tried this on 2 different winmo 6.5.1 rom's (benko's clean and the BsB 6.5.1)
note2: could this maybe be something having to do with the difference between 6.5 and 6.5.1?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I don't know about the ROM being the problem. You can try pocket player. It supports AVRCP by default. It also has a lot more features than Pocket Music.

dgaud007 said:
I don't know about the ROM being the problem. You can try pocket player. It supports AVRCP by default. It also has a lot more features than Pocket Music.
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Same problem there, i've tried them both.
you wouldn't happen to knwo what the latest version was by any chance?
I had a version which I had to import a dll, to get exclusivity for a2dp controls.
Which also didn't work for me
*edit* Never mind, it's 4.1 ;-)
But it's not really the solution I'm looking for, I want to fix the problem internally (so I can use a2dp for any program I want, for example S2P)
*edit 2*
Tried it, still not working, it's still starting WMP, even with the extra wmp plugin which Conduits recommends for this issue...
So still in need of assistance

Crap! It turns out I have the same problem using ENERGY ROM, but hadn't notice since the volume control on my HT820 works OK. I'm actually using HTC Audio Manager (manila) so I don't get WMP, is just the FWD / REV controls on the headphones don't work. Looks like Conduits will provide a fix for their player in the next release.

dgaud007 said:
Crap! It turns out I have the same problem using ENERGY ROM, but hadn't notice since the volume control on my HT820 works OK. I'm actually using HTC Audio Manager (manila) so I don't get WMP, is just the FWD / REV controls on the headphones don't work. Looks like Conduits will provide a fix for their player in the next release.
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Nope, there not fixing it, that is the fix, it's a DLL file. the problem he's having is he isn't able to check the box to override wmp control. which you can do by selecting it, and then pressing the enter key on your virtual keyboard, unfortunatly the fix did not work for me
this is the dll file you need to put into your player directory, which you can then configure through the plugins tab in pocket player itself (after soft reset)
Try it, maybe it'll work for you, it didn't for me
volume control does work for me as well though, but it's the only thing taht's working

Solved
Thanx to Zänker
You should install the two files from these posts.
With this one you can toggle a2dp manually once your headset is connected:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437726
The following makes it toggle automatically after you connect your headset:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502549
(you should have the t-back driver installed as well)
Worked for me, using the bsb 6.5.1g rom and s2p media player.
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Is that player dependent ?
I usually use Pocket Tunes, and never had this issue with 6.5 builds (I indeed use BsB 6.5.1G atm). If it helps i use Sony-Ericsson HBH-DS970...

God_Lx said:
Is that player dependent ?
I usually use Pocket Tunes, and never had this issue with 6.5 builds (I indeed use BsB 6.5.1G atm). If it helps i use Sony-Ericsson HBH-DS970...
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I had this problem with all the players I tried (except WMP, which was the culprit)

In case you're interested...
Juts fixed my AVRCP problem using HTC Audio Manager in NRG's ROM. I installed this version of audio manager and everything is working fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5069731&postcount=1813

a2dp
A2DP doesnt work in my htc p3400i too after upgrading to wm 6.5 and it works in 6.1 ?

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WM6 and A2DP

Hi all Gurus!
I was planning to get myself a Jabra BT8010 and plan to get it working with WM6 installed XDA MiniS.
Generally, how is the sound quality of BT A2DP as compared to normal headphones? Are there many issues in BT Stack of WM6 that might prevent nice music experience?
Also, has anyone tried BT8010 with WM6 Orwell's rom? and got it working perfectly fine?
And can we just jot all the issues/problems/solutions faced with WM6 (whether Orwells or PDAViet) and A2DP here in this thread?
Mods, the specific threads are all scattered so I thought I would start off this thread specifically for WM6 and A2DP. Please delete this thread if this topic doesnt require a separate thread.
thanks,
Sid
Works fine on mine with a Sony Ericsson DS910, and an iTech Blueband.
It has AVRCP also, so with the DS910 it supports all the controls.
Quality is probably about the same as A2DP from my K800i, but it is all quite memory intensive, so if you're low on ram it will stutter like a bastard.
i had the PDAviet 3 WM6 and the xound quality on mine was okay..its just a cheap think i bought on ebay that you plug your own headphones into. its eem sto lose some base and sound a bit tinny compaired to the same headphones plugged into my 8125 directly, but that could just be my BT receiver.
I have Nokia HS-12W and the music quality if good with same gaps in music but the quality in voice is very bad!
The voice is like talking from far!!!!
If someone solve this problem please tell us!
Im Using my Mono SE headset to listen to movies etc on the go and have noticed a bit of a drop in quality from WM5 to WM6, It seems to crackle more on WM6.
Bluetooth range is very good though, I was on a call the other day and someone came to the gate so I got up and went outside still talking on the headset only to realise my Wizard was still on my desk 10 meters away
Jules
totalcmdext said:
I have Nokia HS-12W and the music quality if good with same gaps in music but the quality in voice is very bad!
The voice is like talking from far!!!!
If someone solve this problem please tell us!
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I use iphono mini with WM6, quality in music is quite good (similar as WM5) once you add the bitpool registry key to 40 (before a lot of skips).
But used as hands-free has quite bad quality, at least in my case most of the times I have to disconnect the bluetooth and use the phone.
Perhaps the Jabra are better in this aspect.
rodalfa said:
I use iphono mini with WM6, quality in music is quite good (similar as WM5) once you add the bitpool registry key to 40 (before a lot of skips).
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Can you share the exact location of this key in the registry?
Although my Jabra hasnt arrived yet. I just want to be ready.
--Sid
Got My Jabra BT8010!
Hi All,
I got my Jabra BT8010 working with the WM6. I am pleasantly surprised with the voice quality. Music thru the stereo headset is also excellent, but sometimes the songs seem to slow down or plays fast randomly.
I tried overclocking, but it did not do much good.
Has anyone faced this? this doesnt happen everytime.Just randomly, the speed of song increases or decreases. Any pointers in this?
Further, Anyone knows how do I activate cyberon voice dialling thru this? The MS Voice commander doesnt work well with Indian names :-(
Thanks for the help...all. I also filled the petition for XDADEV to allow storing the ROMs at this site!
sids911 said:
Hi All,
I got my Jabra BT8010 working with the WM6. I am pleasantly surprised with the voice quality. Music thru the stereo headset is also excellent, but sometimes the songs seem to slow down or plays fast randomly.
I tried overclocking, but it did not do much good.
Has anyone faced this? this doesnt happen everytime.Just randomly, the speed of song increases or decreases. Any pointers in this?
Further, Anyone knows how do I activate cyberon voice dialling thru this? The MS Voice commander doesnt work well with Indian names :-(
Thanks for the help...all. I also filled the petition for XDADEV to allow storing the ROMs at this site!
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Give this cab a shot. My buddy uses it on his Mini S, says it works wonders. I don't have a a2dp headset yet. I forget what brand he has, it's a something-com I think, the one that folds up.
My BT620s is on the way, I can't wait. I will let you know how it works out.
computer9cowboy said:
My BT620s is on the way, I can't wait. I will let you know how it works out.
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I got it today.
The damn thing took forever to charge the first time.
I have to say I am very impressed with this thing. Works out of the box with WM6, so far no issues whatsoever. The sound quility is not audiophile level, however it is a lot clearer than I thought it would be!
I was listening to some songs that i have only heard on my crappy laptop speakers and they are awsome. I can hear a lot of things that I couldn't hear before. The bass on these is great.
the best part is that they were only like $60 US, that is less than I paid for my Jabra BT800 a year ago.
I Give the BT620s a 2 thumbs up!!!!!
btw no A2DP fixes have been applied to the Mini S, I am using PDAViet 3 so I am not sure, actually there may be some tweaks in that.
Using A2DP on pdaviet3 with the itech clip IIs headset works great for me:
PROs:
- no skipping after 20 min of mp3 playback
(EDIT: it does drop audio for one sec about 1-2 secs after initial playback, but then resumes)
- not wired headphone sound but pretty darn close
- seamless music pause/resume with incoming calls
- no problems at all with MS Voice Command
CON:
only one so far - people on other end when asked about sound of MY voice said it was a little distant/tunnel sounding (but this is more due to the mic location on the itech)
That being said, I've just "reverted" back to faria's 3.3 rom. Today screen with SPB Pocket Plus/Diary combo seems snappier.
i have wm6 and sonorix OBH-0110, and sound quality if awfull comparing to PC connection with toshiba bluetooth stack. and some cooker said that wm6 bt stack is alot worser then wm5 one.
Hi All,
I dont have this location on my WM6 Orwells: "HKLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Bluetooth/AD2P/Settings/"
The "Settings" folder and the subkeys are not there. This location was there in WM5 while it isnt there in the WM6. Does anyone know where it has been relocated?
And any settings for A2DP skipping and Music playback speed uneven-ness?
Added those bitpool registry keys but they seem to have no effect. How can I improve A2DP sound quality in WM6?
AgentSmith said:
Added those bitpool registry keys but they seem to have no effect. How can I improve A2DP sound quality in WM6?
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Did you create those locations manually?
Even after installing that bluetooth fix cab in this thread, I still have problems with skipping and song playback speed intermittant. :-(
Gurus!!! where art thou????
sids911 said:
Did you create those locations manually?
Even after installing that bluetooth fix cab in this thread, I still have problems with skipping and song playback speed intermittant. :-(
Gurus!!! where art thou????
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Yes I created those manually. Now I use Molski's AKU3.3 Crossbow style rom and sound quality improved alot. Still not on the same level as a wired headset but much better nonetheless. As soon as there is a better WM6 rom with working A2DP tweaks I will upgrade again.
An Update,
I used this A2DP fix http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284974
and skipping went away. Also, music quality reduced.
I uninstalled the fix, and I have the quality back, but songs have started skipping again.
Cant MS provide for a better BT stack in WM6 with all their development prowess??
Would going back to some stable ROM like Molski's or Farias WM5 help?
Faria's WM6 and A2DP
Another update....sighhh
I updated my Wizard to Faria's latest fully loaded WM6. The skipping reduced a bit, but thats about it. The Music speed is still intermittant.
Seems like I wouldnt be able to enjoy this gift. Why cant things just RUN....
I am guessing, changing ROMs wouldnt help...or would it? Does Widcomm stack work on WM6? Anyone with this experience?
The next ROMs I am gonna try are:
1. WM6 MBE
2. Farias 3.3 AKU
3. Molski's WM5
After that i will try selling my Jabra BT8010.
sids911 said:
I updated my Wizard to Faria's latest fully loaded WM6. The skipping reduced a bit, but thats about it. The Music speed is still intermittant.
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Anyone figure out a cause behind the intermittent skipping and speed fluctuations when playing music over bluetooth? I'm using the XDA Mobile 6 release 2a ROM with my BlueAnt X5i headphones. Everything works for the most part. But about 10 to 15 minutes it will drop audio for a few seconds, then start back up again. Annoying but I can live with it.
What's really irritating is the fluctuations in playback speed. For some reason playback tends to speed up every 5 minutes or so. When I skip ahead or go to the next song and it's fine. Then the issue recurs again in 5 minutes... repeat cycle.
I've tried using different mp3's of different bit rates and that doesn't seem to have an impact. I've also tried different players - WMP, TCPMP, GSplayer, Mortplayer, etc. All seem to behave the same way when it comes to variations in speed during playback. Any ideas on this one????

Nokia bh-501 stereo bluetooth headset

hey guy,
I'm having problems getting this thing to work properly, i've searched and searched and can't seem to find anyone else with this problem:
Device pairs fine and seems to function perfectly as a handsfree, however, using media player the audio comes out of the phone even as the 'click' sound effects are coming out the headset! Can't seem to get any audio from media player or core player to come out the headset, the 'htc streaming media player' uses the headset but you can't open files etc using that.
I've tried with WM5 and WM6, same results.
Anyone faced this problem before?
Hi
I've just purchased this headset last week and am thoroughly impressed by it so far. There's not much info on it out there but theres a few characteristics I've found out about this headset; i wonder if you can help me confirm them.
- It seems like when you take the headset off your head it automatically turns off? at first I thought mine was faulty but this behaviour was quite consistent and I figured it was just a power saving feature.
- seems like it likes to turn by itself if idle quite fast.
- need to manually set the device as hands free for it to actually work as a hands free
- unable to use the mic when connecting to pc. I wanted to use it for my sip client on the pc but alas the microphone function doesn't register? What should I be doing to make this work?
In regards to your problem; I'll outline the steps I take to use mine.
1. turn on headset
2. turn on trinity bluetooth from comm manager
3. go to bluetooth settings from settings
4. touch and hold down the nokia bh501 item until the drop down menu appears ,then select "set as wireless audio" or similar
--> you should hear a sound, if you can hear this then it will work, if theres nothing
--> alternatively, select hands free if you want to use it as hands free!
5. open your favorite mp3's and it should work fine.
Does this work for you? Btw im using Mun's TE wm6 rom. What rom are u using?
Eureka!
Your post made me realise I had only tried the headset with AAC files and not MP3 and guess what? The headset only works with MP3 files! Although this is probably a limitation of the trinity.
I can also confirm it doesn't work with nerodigital video files.
I'm using the GPS enabled WM5 Ship ROM.
I'll do some more tests on different media files, it would be a real shame if we're limited to only MP3s...
EDIT: Wow the sound quality is amazing and the bass is fantastic!
I haven't tried playing AAC files because I haven't got any...I specifically converted all my formats so I could use GS player. I'm pretty sure the headset can play WMA as well..I haven't really tested...
The next thing I notice is this constant high pitch ringing or hissing sound...It's very uncomfortable.
I've seen reports of this all over the forum in regards to the Triity, let's hope there is a fix available soon.
wma file work.
i have wm6 and a motorola ht820 and it works great. the only thing is that the perfomance of the trinity decrease while i'm using the bluetooth-headset.
Nokia bh-501 Not discovering in my windows XP laptop
Hi guys,
I am finding difficulties connecting my nokia bh-501 to my laptop. Not even its discovering in My bluetooth places. Is there any driver that i need to upgrade to use the Nokia bluetooth headset BH-501 on my laptop?
Please help me...
Yuvaraj
soadownz said:
hey guy,
I'm having problems getting this thing to work properly, i've searched and searched and can't seem to find anyone else with this problem:
Device pairs fine and seems to function perfectly as a handsfree, however, using media player the audio comes out of the phone even as the 'click' sound effects are coming out the headset! Can't seem to get any audio from media player or core player to come out the headset, the 'htc streaming media player' uses the headset but you can't open files etc using that.
I've tried with WM5 and WM6, same results.
Anyone faced this problem before?
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Media Player took over my Bluetooth Headset

With my previous phone 8525, I was able to control Pocket Player and Core Player with my JayBird Bluetooth headset using AVRCP controls (pause, next track etc) All you had to do was go into the audo player program and map a function with button press on the bluetooth headset - easy. However, with the Fuze, everytime I press the button on the bluetooth headset the audio player doesn't recognize the button press and instead Media Player automatically loads.
Is there any way to keep Media Player from being the default player when using a bluetooth headset?
Bump.
Nothing guys? Compared to Media Player, Core Player and Pocket Player are so much better which is why I'd rather be able to control these applications with my headset.
Shouldn't the music player app that's open and active be the one that the Bluetooth headset focuses on when I try to assign a keypress?
Topic being discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406116
http://conduits.com/community/forum_posts.asp?TID=1321&PN=1&TPN=2
Looks like this problem is on the Diamond as well as the Touch Pro variants.
From Condiuts (Pocket Player) "We are currently investigating this problem. It seems that the HTC today plugin intercepts all AVRCP commands and prevents other players from detecting the commands".
It already been pointed out that de-activating the HTC Today plugin does not solve the problem.
nthdgreee said:
Topic being discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406116
http://conduits.com/community/forum_posts.asp?TID=1321&PN=1&TPN=2
Looks like this problem is on the Diamond as well as the Touch Pro variants.
From Condiuts (Pocket Player) "We are currently investigating this problem. It seems that the HTC today plugin intercepts all AVRCP commands and prevents other players from detecting the commands".
It already been pointed out that de-activating the HTC Today plugin does not solve the problem.
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Problem Solved. Check here for specifics.
CorePlayer works. Here's how I got mine working:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3056512&postcount=74
edit: after testing my Nokia headset I have become mystified. This headset remains hardcoded to WMP. Maybe if I try re-pairing...

Conduits Pocket Player fixes Bluetooth controls!

The folks at Conduits have done it again!
Until now, no 3rd-party media player could make use of the Bluetooth AVRCP controls because the crappy HTC music player monopolized them. But the latest version of Pocket Player (3.71) now includes specific support for our devices, so the play/pause/skip commands from our BT headsets work exactly as they should.
As a long time Pocket Player fan, with this problem out of the way, I now officially think the Touch Pro is de best device I ever owned. By far.
http://www.conduits.com/products/player/
Robrecht said:
The folks at Conduits have done it again!
Until now, no 3rd-party media player could make use of the Bluetooth AVRCP controls because the crappy HTC music player monopolized them. But the latest version of Pocket Player (3.71) now includes specific support for our devices, so the play/pause/skip commands from our BT headsets work exactly as they should.
As a long time Pocket Player fan, with this problem out of the way, I now officially think the Touch Pro is de best device I ever owned. By far.
http://www.conduits.com/products/player/
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Is there a separate Plugin I can install or do I need to install the updated 3.71 cab?
I don't know if we can call this completely fixed yet. I went ahead and installed the latest cab; 3.7.1 and it still doesn't seem to be working. I don't use the Touchflo interface because I prefer more customization. As a result I'm using PocketPlayer through SPB Pocket Plus on my home screen. When I activate my bluetooth and run PocketPlayer everything appears normal until I press a bluetooth button. As before, Media player intercepts the button press and launches itself. Bummer!
So this fix only works if you're using PocketPlayer through the TouchFlo interface? Has anyone tried deactivating TF to see if the fix still works?
How are the volume controls with this program? I currently use Coreplayer and the volume controls are all jacked up with the HTC volume control..
I had an older version of Pocket Player on my Moto Q and it was a slow moving program.. Hopefully its much more snappy on the Fuze..
its better than nothing. turn it on and dont use it. im happy they at least found something.
works great
used the new 3.71 on my drive into work this morning and everything worked perfectly with the Venturi mini.
nthdgreee said:
I don't know if we can call this completely fixed yet. I went ahead and installed the latest cab; 3.7.1 and it still doesn't seem to be working. I don't use the Touchflo interface because I prefer more customization. As a result I'm using PocketPlayer through SPB Pocket Plus on my home screen. When I activate my bluetooth and run PocketPlayer everything appears normal until I press a bluetooth button. As before, Media player intercepts the button press and launches itself. Bummer!
So this fix only works if you're using PocketPlayer through the TouchFlo interface? Has anyone tried deactivating TF to see if the fix still works?
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Conduit has also provided a fix for those who do not use TF3D. As stated here Conduit acknowledges that when TF3D is disabled their fix no longer works. However just follow the instructions in the link and you'll be able to use your AVRCP controls regardless of whether or not your using TF3D. Great service Conduit!
Nice catch. 3.71 gave AVRCP with my Sennheiser MM 200 on TP eu under Elite RC2 ROM.
From 3.70, only option was remove/install & an offer to keep previous settings.

Media Player "shuffle" and "repeat" not working...

Hi Everybody!
I'm using the Stock Eastern Europe WM6.5 ROM with manila 2.1.
Travel a lot from work, and like listening music, using TD2 as an mp3 player.
I've just bought a sennheiser mm200 bluetooth headset for this. Works like charm, but yesterday i realized, that the "shuffle" and "repeat" function is not working whether its enabled or disabled.
Somebody face this problem too? Any ideas?
Thanks
i've got a similar problem. my repeat function works (i think, i don't use it much) but the shuffle does not at first. i must switch it off, then on again and it sort of re-shuffles everything.
lol. (this is using the sony ericsson hbh-d980)
anyways, it's not SO bad.
i'm using Dutty's R1 (best ROM for me so far)

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