I have used the backpack, really very slowwwwww with screen mirror! anyone face the same problem? Pls help!
tcnk said:
I have used the backpack, really very slowwwwww with screen mirror! anyone face the same problem? Pls help!
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Well, I have been saying that for ages, you are the first one who share this with me!
Yep, it is too slowwwwww with me too, but I found a little trick to avoid that!
In the Screen Mirror, go to "Refresh", set the "Predefined Settings" to "PIM, Word, Database". This will make Screen Mirror quite fast and acceptable.
If you set it to be "Photo/Presentation", then the imate will be too slowwwww, while if you set it to be "Animation" or "MPEG video", then the Screen Mirror will never work again!!! and there is no way to use it or make a presentation. I had to Hard-Reset my iamte to change the settings to "PIM, Word, Database"!!
Any way, I was able to make a prsentation on the setup of "PIM, Word, Database", but can not make the display in landscape!!, or, I can run the show in the normal portrait display, using "stretch" option in "layout" but it looks ugly!!
What did you do in this regard?
Luckily, I didn't buy the backpack that I planned to buy soon.
That means I've better to use my notebook to do presentation.
Thanks guys for your comments.
chris_khho said:
Luckily, I didn't buy the backpack that I planned to buy soon.
That means I've better to use my notebook to do presentation.
Thanks guys for your comments.
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The presentation software that comes with the backPack is fantastic. Do not confuse it with Screen Mirror which is the apllication that simply projects your entire PDA screen. Screen Mirror is certainly handy for training in PDA software applications but not used for powerpoint presentations.
One feature the BackPack presentation software has that the laptop does not is the ability to project only the presentation slides (via the lcd projector) but display both the speakers notes and the presentation slides on the screen of the PPC. I find this very handy as I use the speakers notes for questions and answers as part of my test for understanding slides.
Ed
I guess "Chris" and most users (including me) are looking for Powerpoint presentations, if you only need the BackPack for presentation, it will not help at all!! unless you need it to use CF Card!, then it might be useflul to have it, and as you "Ed" mentioned, to make a presentation about xda, to project the data, then yes, it is good to have as well.
Note that Windows 2003SE (2nd Edition) has good features that will help in presentations! (the Landscape View and 640X480 resolution)! I am waiting for it to update my imate and then try BackPack for presentation once again!
Sorry GoldenSands I don't understand
I think the backPack works great for powerpoint presentations, that's the main thing I use it for. I have the presentations saved either on an SD card or a CF if I have to take a lot of large files. But even from the SD or main memory the presentation software works a treat. The backpacks battery is smaller but it does prolong battery life and that is a bonus too. Without the BackPack I cannot use my XDA II for presentations.
What do you mean
if you only need the BackPack for presentation, it will not help at all!!
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Sorry not trying to be silly I just miss your point.
Ed
Dear Ed, may be I did not express my thoughts very well. When I did a presentation using the backpack, I had the following problems:
1- Imate is slow.
2- Presnetation is in portrate, not in landscape (as normal Power Point presentation).
3- Small size (small resolution) not in 640X480.
4- If I use Stretch Option (to get large projection), then quality is poor.
Now, taking above points into consideration, presentaion done through backpack is not powerful and I can not do any presentaion, although I need it badly, I do about 3 to 4 presentaions a week!
That's what I meant by buying it for presentaions (to do Powerpoint ones) will not help since I have to design the Powerpoint presentation in certain size to fit the backpack limitations.
My questions:
1- Are you able to make the presentaion in Landscape?
2- Were you able to use 640X480 resolution?
3- How fast is your imate or xda2 when you use Speed Mirror?
4- What is the version of Speed Mirror you have? (mine is Ver 2.01)
5- In VGA Refresh Settings, do you set it to be "PIM, Word, Database"? or something else?
Regarding the battery, I agree with you, it is a small added value component (600 mAm) only, but it is good to have any way.
GoldenSands said:
My questions:
1- Are you able to make the presentaion in Landscape?
2- Were you able to use 640X480 resolution?
3- How fast is your imate or xda2 when you use Speed Mirror?
4- What is the version of Speed Mirror you have? (mine is Ver 2.01)
5- In VGA Refresh Settings, do you set it to be "PIM, Word, Database"? or something else?
Regarding the battery, I agree with you, it is a small added value component (600 mAm) only, but it is good to have any way.
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OK, seems like you do things different than me.
Firstly I do not use ScreenMirror for presentations, I use ClearVue Presentation Suite v2.3.377 which came on the CD with my backpack.
Presentations work at "normal" speed with transition effects etc. And as I said earlier I do like ability to see the speakers notes on my XDA II but only project the slides to the LCD projector.
Next in answer to your questions above.
Q1. Yes (Using ClearVue)
Q2, Yes (Using ClearVue), 640 x 480 x 64k @ 85Hz or 800 x 600 x 64K @ 60Hz
Q3. As I said I do not use SpeedMirror for presentations. By the way, my Mirror application is called ScreenMirror v2.01, NOT SpeedMirror, are they different? Anyway, when I use ScreenMirror yes it can be slow but is OK for how to teach using PPC applications etc and it only operates in Portrait. I do not use it for power point slide shows.
Q4. When I use it, and that is not often, I usually have it on PIM, Word, Database. For example It has been OK on how to teach people to use SpriteBackupPremium at a PPC user group meeting. No need for landscape as it is an application to Mirror the PPC screen, that is it only projects the PPC exactly as it looks in on your hand unit. That is why it is good for teaching how to use the PPC applications.
Hope this helps.
Ed
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OK, seems like you do things different than me.
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Dear Ed,
Yep, I guess I was totally not aware about making the presentation through the ClearVue PPT directly (without using the Screen Mirror)!
I went to "Setup" / "Preferences" in ClearVue, then was surprised about the option that allows me to use External Video Adaptor! That was the reason; I was using Screen Mirror (not Speed Mirror).
Thanks for your advice, that's the benefit of this forum, we learn from each other. However, I need a little advice from you, when I choose to use the "External Video Adaptor" in ClearVue, using VGA as an Output. Then try to open a presentation, an error message appears saying "Another Presentation viewer is running, please close the other viewer and try again". While there is nothing else is running. I have even re-installed the VGA Package!
Well, one time after several trials, I got different message: "The External display is in use by another application. Would you like to continue to use the external display?" whatever I chose, nothing appears in the screen.
Note that I am making all these tests using the Monitor, not the projector, do you think this make a different?
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Yep, it helped a lot. Please let me know if you had experienced such problems with the imate and BackPack.
Thank you..
Well I'm glad my coments helped and we are both talking the same language now
I just tried using ClearVue and the backpack connected to my PC monitor rather than my LCD projector and it still worked fine for me. No errors like you mention in your post. So what you are doing should work.
I presume you tried performing a softreset with backpack and monitor connected, then before starting any other applications load clearvue, open your presentation file, then tap on the slideshow icon?
Not sure what else to suggest but please post your results.
BTW, where abouts in Saudi are you? (from your flag) I worked there for a couple of years about 7 years ago. I was in Al Jubail but managed to explore the entire country including the empty quarter. Had a great time and still have some friends there.
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Well I'm glad my coments helped and we are both talking the same language now .
I just tried using ClearVue and the backpack connected to my PC monitor rather than my LCD projector and it still worked fine for me. No errors like you mention in your post. So what you are doing should work.
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I was away for a short business trip. However, I was trying to do more tests and more research. I still get the same error, but what surprised me more today, even if I try to open any presentation using ClearVeu (selecting the option of using External VGA) while the BackPack is not attached; I still get the same error. I also connected the imate to my projector, it works OK with Screen Mirror, but never worked with the ClearVue. I did a lot of trials and restarts.
I also did a little research, and I found this useful link. But I guess I am alone getting this error!!
http://www.ppcw.net/index.php?itemid=1916
Remaining one more test to do, I will use the imate of my brother-in-low, I am going to install the Screen Mirror Software along with ClearVue (of course) and will try to run a presentation, lets see what error we get! hope it works, if so, it means then my imate (or Windows) might have a problem since BackPack works OK.
By the way, what Rom version are you using, is it 1.72 or 1.66?
ednap said:
BTW, where abouts in Saudi are you? (from your flag) I worked there for a couple of years about 7 years ago. I was in Al Jubail but managed to explore the entire country including the empty quarter. Had a great time and still have some friends there.
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That's nice, Juabial is not far from where do I live. I live now in Dhahran (almost 100Km away from Jubail). I have not been in Empty quarter or even a lot of places, except major cities in Kingdom!!
I'm using the 1.66 ROM , standard rom from when I purchased the unit. I have been happy with it so did not upgrade to another.
I'm surprised with your error and I do hope you can get it sorted out as the ClearVue really is fantastic software.
Ed
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I'm using the 1.66 ROM , standard rom from when I purchased the unit. I have been happy with it so did not upgrade to another.
I'm surprised with your error and I do hope you can get it sorted out as the ClearVue really is fantastic software.
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Mmmm, you gave me a good hint again! I will test ClearVue with BackPack and try to make a presentation on 2 imates, one with 1.72 ROM and another one with 1.66 ROM. If it worked, then will see away to downgrade mine to 1.66!! I will try to do this test ASAP. Thanks a lot dear.
Bug in ClearVue
I'm having the same bug with ClearVue with the message "another presentation viewer is running, ...".
I visited the Westtek website and found that there's an updated release of the software. They want money for the update.
I think that the whole thing is offensive. Selling an untested application is offensive, asking for more money to fix it is offensive. I wish I could throw the product back in the face of the Dubai Duty Free employee.
BTW, no one should downgrade their ROM to get one crappy application to function.
Just wondered if you guys had seen this page, on O2 site for a ClearVue update for 1.72
http://www.sourceo2.com/O2_Developers/Devices/O2_Xda_II/VGA_Backpack.htm
I don't have a backpack, so I can't test it but it might solve your problems!
HTH
Fin
Bug in ClearVue and the Expansion Pack
I tested the update and it didn't work. I wrote to club i-mate support.
I'll keep you posted on their reply.
Thanks to all for the forum.
Dear "findus", thanks a lot for the link, but as "OZK" has mentioned, it did not work, hope some one has a solution!
Replies regarding the Presentation Viewer Bug
Club i-Mate:
Thank you for writing in, I personally tested the i-mate back pack with version 1.72 and did not come up with any error messages.
Westtek:
I have not been able to reproduce the problem. Please try the following and let me know at what step you get the error message.
1. Soft reset your device
2. Open ClearVue Presentation
3. Open a Presentation file
4. Run a Slide Show on your pocket PC (without configuring external video)
5. Exit the Slide Show and exit ClearVue Presentation.
6. Plug in the backpack and open ClearVue Presentation
7. Open a Presentation file
8. Configure the External Video Adapter in ClearVue Presentation (do not open the mirror software)
9. Run a slide show
I tried the steps and the problem is still there.
Now I'm out of ways to get help and being in the Middle East, there's no way I can get my money back (no one protects consumers here).
Update to Back Pack Driver
After having denied that they had a problem with the dirver, Club i-mate have posted an update:
http://www.clubimate.com/Support/BackpackDriver.sa.CAB
They never bothered themseleves to reply to my emails, I found the update by chance.
If the above fix doesn't solve the back pack problem, try hard resetting. Hard reseting worked for me even without the updated driver.
Hi Guys,
On this site you can now download Syntrax for free: http://www.finished.nl
How do I know this? I created the program myself
Should work on all ancient and modern PocketPC's (except the weird square screen ones)
Enjoy!
Reinier
Excellent.
Does it come with sample sounds, or do you need to provide the sounds for the sequencer?
Hi,
No sampled sounds allmost (It would add to the size too much)... but a lot of preset synthetic sounds.
But sampled sounds are possible, so there's no stopping you from importing them!
Reinier
Will it work on the samsung sc3 processor.
euh...
if it's compatible with arm then it will undoubtedly work.
I used to have sh3 and mips versions of the software. If needed I can upload them, although I'm unsure if it will be the latest version.
Sh3 was really slow by the way... I can remember not many audio channels were possible on my ancient hp jornada. The oldest Ipaq however already was more than quick enough.
R
I'm using a touch diamond and finished.nl is telling me this is not compatible, is this true?
nice one, I got this before when I used to have a P910i
you have to register to handango to DL
Syntrax 2 Pro?
Hi there Reinier,
Glad to be able to chat to the syntrax developer.
I would like to know if you have any plans to update this application making it easier to use and perhaps moving away from basic analogue emulation or at least expanding the pallette?
I had it on my previous phone (tytn 2) and couldn't really get much out of it despite following the tutorials. I suppose i'm used to my pc programs and a full screen though i'm sure there's things you can do that work better for the much smaller phone screen.
I am not a developer/programmer myself but would be more than happy to come up with some suggestions and ideas for you to work on.
Of course time is money, so you should really think about making it a purchasable item should you wish to put the necessary effort in.
Look forward to hearing what you think in regards to this.
Simon Jarvis.
It runs portrait though. It would have been nice to be able to run it in landscape.
is it ok with the touch diamond? I got the incompatibility message from Handango too!
This looks AMAZING though & I really want to be able to run it !!!!!!!!!
its so annoying! all the text on the screen and stuff is like jaggy idk really how to explain it its like a game that has no anti aliasing enabled. Its even like this on pictures, while using internet explorer etc.. is this just how the screen is or what?
If I had to guess, it's because the LCD is actually VGA (look for the spaces between the pixels- you cant see them!) but currently WM6 Standard doesnt support VGA resolution yet. Just a hunch!
SPCartmanLand said:
its so annoying! all the text on the screen and stuff is like jaggy idk really how to explain it its like a game that has no anti aliasing enabled. Its even like this on pictures, while using internet explorer etc.. is this just how the screen is or what?
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At a guess I suspect you either somehow have turned off Cleartype antialiasing, or you've got a bad Shadow.
Some people complained that the background made their text looked jaggy, but I didn't find this to be true.
Kermit Woodall
Managing Editor
GadgetNutz.com
After some research and some feedback from our HTC rep (I work for TMO) I now know that 1st gen shadows did indeed come out with VGA screens, but WM6 does not support VGA. Its like watching standard-def shows on a high-def tv-- it sucks. All newer models have QVGA screens. Call our warranty exchange department and get a new one if you'd like 1-800-937-8997
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After some research and some feedback from our HTC rep (I work for TMO) I now know that 1st gen shadows did indeed come out with VGA screens, but WM6 does not support VGA. Its like watching standard-def shows on a high-def tv-- it sucks. All newer models have QVGA screens. Call our warranty exchange department and get a new one if you'd like 1-800-937-8997
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A free exchange?
hi guys, new here. great work you guys r doing
i just switched from an iphone (HI5!) and im having a hard time adapting. i loved the iphone so much purely because it was thumb friendly, and the touch screen was really responsive (i.e. using ur thumb to flick ur music playlist up and down was a breeze, not so much the pro, it either tends to get stuck, or flick too fast).
another problem i have the the touchflo 3d is that when i go to a playlist, play a song, it goes back to the front interface showing what song is playing. however, once i go back into playlist again to see whats next, it scrolls back to the top and i have to manually scroll all the way down to the now playing song. thats annoying as i would like to see whats next on the playlist, not the first song every time.
currently using the ROMEOS OS
any tips? or any thumb interfaces that are thumb friendly?
try spb mobile shell im sure that has a few thumb friendly skins
i tried it already, but its a bit buggy, the tabs kept disappearing from the today screen lol
What you want is Windows Mobile 6.5. And so do I... Below is a link to pics of what is thought to be photos of the upcoming OS.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/12/windows-mobile-6-5-screenshots-have-a-little-zune-in-em/
Also, the experience with the touching will be different as talked about here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438076
I'm also frustrated at Windows Mobile phones, but they do EVERYTHING unlike all the other competitors. G1 is nice but the POP/IMAP email is currently broken and also doesn't have a windows compatible Remote Desktop application (no I will not use VNC on my clients servers thank you very much). The iPhone ATT plans are very pricey for how many minutes I use a month, so the Sprint $99 month EVERYTHING UNLIMITED plan fits my budget, however they don't have any other good Windows Mobile phones other than the Diamond or Touch Pro at the moment. The OMNIA looks awsome!
Kyle
Recentely I was wondering if it was possible to use your windows mobile pda as a webcam. During business trips I always have my mobile with a camera with me. Why buying a webcam...
This is in short how it works (and it is free):
Download mymobiler: http://www.mymobiler.com
Download VH screen capture driver: http://www.hmelyoff.com/index.php?section=8
Start mymobiler and activate your mobile camera
Grab the part of the screen you want with VH screen capture
Now you have a webcam stream which you can use in any program like skype, msn etc..
Look at this video as example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wveANUBUIJM
Instead of using the microsoft remote tool use mymobiler. It is much faster.
PS: You need active sync to communicate with mymobiler
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Thanks for the new thread!!
first time i have seen this method. ty.
I did't find it
orb3000 said:
Old news mate...
there is a thread with this info and more about it
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Could you point out where ? I didn't find it......
thread since 21st July 2008, 06:12 AM
pafke said:
Could you point out where ? I didn't find it......
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Of course:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410057
And here
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...biler&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Next time do a search so you can post on that thread instead creating a new one with same topic
pafke said:
Recentely I was wondering if it was possible to use your windows mobile pda as a webcam. During business trips I always have my mobile with a camera with me. Why buying a webcam...
This is in short how it works (and it is free):
Download mymobiler: http://www.mymobiler.com
Download VH screen capture driver: http://www.hmelyoff.com/index.php?section=8
Start mymobiler and activate your mobile camera
Grab the part of the screen you want with VH screen capture
Now you have a webcam stream which you can use in any program like skype, msn etc..
Look at this video as example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wveANUBUIJM
Instead of using the microsoft remote tool use mymobiler. It is much faster.
PS: You need active sync to communicate with mymobiler
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thanks for this thread. this was always something i wanted to do, but was never a big enough of deal for me to remember to search for it. seeing your thread and reading the other linked threads reminded me how cool of an idea this is.
It is easy to say it is old news if one has time to sit around all day long just monitoring what's going on in a website with nothing else to do besides familiarizing oneself with every single item published, every single pda/phone launched on earth.
It is never straightforward to find the right content when one searches. The amount of rubbish one finds is overwhelming. Internet/seach/google, all this is great but it is never that easy to find the right words/sentences to put in a search mechanism, even more so when English is not your first language and the gobbledegook that passes for speech nowadays. It starts for example when you type in dolls in a search because you have girls and want to find gifts and what you get is porn, porn and more porn! Get my meaning. One gets fed up with searching and getting nothing useful.
Besides, other people may have other needs, families to care for, and just a few minutes in hand to spend looking at this great community. Some people may have a life!
Is it that difficult to understand the word solidarity? Or maybe I am in the wrong community? Maybe so! I was hoping not and the big egos could be shelved once in a while. Ou maybe this community is only for, only wants and deserves to be for developers to developers, nothing else.
I too get fed up with people that don't do a bit of leg work first but sometimes, just sometimes somebody can bring something new to the discussion even when cases are old, without reinventing the wheel.
End of rant!
how do you get the camera to show up over mymobiler? I've used mymobiler for a while now but when I turn on the camera (Fuze/Touch Pro) it just shows a blank screen (all black) and same is true with the MS app. It shows me the settings in the camera and the rest of the dialogues but the actually camera image does not show. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks
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bugsykoosh said:
how do you get the camera to show up over mymobiler? I've used mymobiler for a while now but when I turn on the camera (Fuze/Touch Pro) it just shows a blank screen (all black) and same is true with the MS app. It shows me the settings in the camera and the rest of the dialogues but the actually camera image does not show. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks
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I realy think it has something to do with the interpretation between your pda screen resolution and the windows screen resolution.
The first thing what comes up is te change your windows screen resolution to for example 16 bit color with 800*600 pixels and see what happends.
You can change your setting in windows by hitting the right mouse button on your desktop. Then choose properties -> Setting.
Pressing F5 in mymobiler could help as well.
This may help as well:
http://www.celiocorp.com/viewer
They can handle more screen resolutions
Hmm, on one mentioned about WebCameraPlus?
http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
karhoe said:
Hmm, on one mentioned about WebCameraPlus?
http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
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Yes I know this application. It seems to work ok.
I just wanted to share something on this site which is free....
But I think if someone is willing to pay for this software it is a good alternative.
karhoe said:
Hmm, on one mentioned about WebCameraPlus?
http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
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yup, it's a much better solution.
orb3000 said:
Of course:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410057
And here
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...biler&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Next time do a search so you can post on that thread instead creating a new one with same topic
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Thanks for the link
You can also try VZOmobile application. It can turn your phone into portable camera and video can be recorded remotelly to PC during video call. Unfortunately only Windows Mobile based phones supported for now.
pafke said:
I realy think it has something to do with the interpretation between your pda screen resolution and the windows screen resolution.
The first thing what comes up is te change your windows screen resolution to for example 16 bit color with 800*600 pixels and see what happends.
You can change your setting in windows by hitting the right mouse button on your desktop. Then choose properties -> Setting.
Pressing F5 in mymobiler could help as well.
This may help as well:
http://www.celiocorp.com/viewer
They can handle more screen resolutions
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Not worked on my 838Pro (HTC Hermes, WinMobile5).
You can also try SmartCam http : // sourceforge . net / projects / smartcam
works for WinMo 6.x: bluetooth, Wifi, USB (active sync and ppp_peer as server name).
Enjoy