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My sister has been asking me for a while to find her first electronic organizer, but knowing her I can't give something too techy and complicated. She will barely connect it to her PC very often.
Main requirements are : calendar, notes and I suppose contacts.
Camera is a plus.
Do you know of an "easy" girly phone, that is not too geek like most of the ones we have ?
like the equivalent of the Palm Zire for instance, these ones were just doing the basics if you didn't look behind the shell.
thanks.
Does she want WM5, Palm, Symbian? Does it need to have a phone and if so does it need to be 3G?
Maybe something like HP iPaq 1950?
It is a WM5 device but it's one of the basic ones, no phone / GPS / BT (has WIFI though).
It's pretty stable so no need for "tech" stuff if you only want to use it as an organizer and it is very compact.
Plus if she wants to add some games or something later that will work too.
Don't underestimate women. My beautiful wife (yes she dose read this forum ) has had XDAI, XDAII and atom. She is not very good with understanding how computers work but still manages to work all the features of ppc's. The main question would probably be the price. Here the HP version of the atom (I can't remember name) is probably the cheapest pda phone and its got all the features.
Well, I'm not sure about your sis, but as far as I know, girls look for looks on things they use. So, probably the Zire22 are small and girlish enough for her to use. I personally used both Palm and Windows PDA. In organiser wise, I find Palm's builtin PIM is better and clearer. However, unless you get the advance version of Palm PDA (eg TX), your sis maybe having problem with the handwriting 'mechanism'.
Anyway, for Windows based PDA, I think it is very basic anyway. You just key in the required field without the need to know other things. If you are to use the PIM without much of your personal requirement, you won't need to do things like reg hack And, I find that girls can seems to tolerate things that they don't know (eg, they hardly customize a PC, though they seems to like to customize a bf). The most they want to do is to make them look pink.
Ask your sis, which PDA she likes (eg the looks and size, and colour) and it may help you in choosing. Let her have a look on the PalmZ22, as I remember, there are `converted` wives with Z22. It doesn't have a camera though.
http://euro.palm.com/uk/en/products/z22/domore.html
I agree with Hanmin
the look is more important,
I will check with her first of all.
I used a Palm for years before PPC and yes.. I forgot about the letter recognition :-(
thanks for your help guys !
if u want phone capibility and camera and ability to choose the colour of the device (it comes in white, red, orange, and silver) go with the upcoming treo 680.....its palmOS based though..
i think for a very basic user windows mobile is not good. for example activesync and hotsync......
Hum, in my mind the choice will be hard
Bring her in a shop and show her the main differences about capabilites, look and ... prices...
Sometime we want a very simple things but when we discover advanced features, we want ALL ! A geek is sleeping in all of us
Have a look at the o2 Stealth.
Just wondering, any updates on this? What is the one she chosen ?
OK I would really appreciate it if somebody would be kind enough to help me out. I am a huge gamer (I already have Pocket Wolf, SOD, DoomGLES, Quake and all its expansions, Quake 3, and Pocket Duke3D) but I still need a little help finding more games I want.
Fist of all i found Pocket Duke3D but I honestly cant figure out the control scheme, I understand how you can change the Duke3D file in the txt editor and I even got it to go to landscape view but I keep hearing conflicting ideas on how to set up the buttons. I did a lot of research but there was no definite answers and most of the post were from like 3 years ago. Almost all the links the I can find that talks anything about it are dead, and I find it hard to believe that the version I have is the final version that anyone has worked on. I would love it if there was an accelerated version that I don't know about.
So then I was reading on a forum where somebody talked about Pocket Hexen and Heretic. These were both close to being my favorite games when I was little, but unfortunately every time I do a search for a download all i get is a dead link. Also the only screens that I have seen of these games has an on board keyboard. I doubt I could play those games with an on board keyboard that small. So I'm thinking there has to be an upgraded version of those games (hopefully accelerated) as well because those versions must of been completely unplayable.
So what I'm doing here people is imploring you to look into the depth of you heart and help out a man in desperate need of pocket entertainment. Please if you have any idea of where i might find any of these games, or others that I might not of heard of PLEASE post them on this thread. If you do i will forever be grateful!
Have you mistakenly bought Dell X51v? PSP should be the best option for you.. Lol..! Your post seems like you just have it for playing
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Carty..
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Have you mistakenly bought Dell Xv? PPS should be the best option for you.. Lol..! Your post seems like you just have it for playing
Regards,
Carty..
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I already have one of those too! LOL everything I own is geared toward gaming. I'm just a little bit obsessed, I bet you can imagine how much my wife loves that.
I also use it for school and work stuff too, but mostly gaming!
Ok so I finally found a pokect hexen I could download and it was an .exe file, which I thought was wierd becaus I figured I would have to add my .wad file to get it to work, but anyways whenever i run it its DOS based and it says
connecting to window CE... Sucess
Creating\Hexen
and then it just freezes. I tried to extract the .cad file from it but i guess this is one of thoes files you cant pick apart! Also I'm not having any luck with Wargus all the links seem to either be in Russian or they are dead. I dont think God wants me having anmyore ppc games!
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Ok so I finally found a pokect hexen I could download and it was an .exe file, which I thought was wierd becaus I figured I would have to add my .wad file to get it to work, but anyways whenever i run it its DOS based and it says
connecting to window CE... Sucess
Creating\Hexen
and then it just freezes. I tried to extract the .cad file from it but i guess this is one of thoes files you cant pick apart! Also I'm not having any luck with Wargus all the links seem to either be in Russian or they are dead. I dont think God wants me having anmyore ppc games!
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1, you don't miss much with Pocket Hexen as it doesn't support the 2700G - that is, no hardware 3D acceleration, unlike in Quake Mobile, DoomGLES, Cuve3D etc.
2, do check out my gaming-related articles, I've reviewed ALL the 2700G-enabled games and emulators and most Pocket PC games / emulators. You'll find them VERY useful.
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Have you mistakenly bought Dell X51v? PSP should be the best option for you.. Lol..! Your post seems like you just have it for playing
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Carty..
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Yup, the PSP is decidedly better for gaming (much better controls, more games, much better screen, particularly in Landscape etc.). However, the PPC platform also has some VERY good games - for example, Orions.
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Yup, the PSP is decidedly better for gaming (much better controls, more games, much better screen, particularly in Landscape etc.). However, the PPC platform also has some VERY good games - for example, Orions.
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Yeah but I've been gaming since back when all I had was a 286 with no sound card, and I knew I just had to buy a sound card so I could hear the "Awesome" sound in Wolf3D. So Im really loving all of these oldies but goodies because they dont offer anyhting like that on my PSP.
Also I've already looked at the accelerated game list that you have for X51v it was VERY helpful, I have most of them installed, I found them when i was reading up on DoomGLES back like 4 months ago, now im looking for the classics, IE Hexen, Heretic, i even read somwhere they were making a heretic 2 (that project has probably been abandoned too), but my problem is all the links are dead!! ARG!
if it's on the internet i can find it
http://www.mobile2day.de/partner/111/details.php?pid=3,921,966,967,6214
sure it's a german site but the links are not dead
links to hexen in the buttom too
but it does seem to suffer from the onscreen keyboard
ps. my duke3d setup works just fine with buttons and screen on himalaya
never liked Heretic and hexen much though well i loved Heretic mp but only because i could turn
my friend into a chicken and trample him and there would be feathers everywhere!
hexen dident seem to have that option and tried to be more rpg'ish in which it failed
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if it's on the internet i can find it
http://www.mobile2day.de/partner/111/details.php?pid=3,921,966,967,6214
sure it's a german site but the links are not dead
links to hexen in the buttom too
but it does seem to suffer from the onscreen keyboard
ps. my duke3d setup works just fine with buttons and screen on himalaya
never liked Heretic and hexen much though well i loved Heretic mp but only because i could turn
my friend into a chicken and trample him and there would be feathers everywhere!
hexen dident seem to have that option and tried to be more rpg'ish in which it failed
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*PULLING OUT HAIR*
Ok thanks to Rudegar I finally found both hexen and heretic and I was super excited but now that I install them neither one of the will work!! I KEEP GETTING THE STUPID ERROR MESSAGE W_InitFiles: no files found. From all the research I've done I think they are saying that there is a problem with the name of the wad files, BUT NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THE NAME OF MY WAD FILES!! i downloaded the shareware version right form the same website, i even made sure the had the same names that were on the README files! I REALLY THINK GOD HATES ME! Can sombody PLEASE HELP ME!?!?!
Ok i got Pocket Hexen Working....HAHA AND HERETIC NOW TOO!! I had to tool around with it for a little bit but I figured it out! Is there anyways to put these games on landscape mode, and to get rid of the supid keyboard when you dont need it??
ALSO THANKS Rudegar SO MUCH FOR THE HELP!!
Found an awesome page, lots of games and everything is free! *** URL edited out by Menneisyys. Sorry guys, NO links to pirate boards! ****
Please don't post warez links.
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Please don't post warez links.
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Arn't thoes games legally free since you can download them off of other sites Too for free. I thought it was a freeware site?
those games are but that forum are full of other warez in the same thread too
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those games are but that forum are full of other warez in the same thread too
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Opps sorry i didnt pay any attention to anything but the games, i figured the rest were a bunch of free trial offers or somthing.
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Arn't thoes games legally free since you can download them off of other sites Too for free. I thought it was a freeware site?
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The thread you linked had a lot of cracked / regged apps / games.
This is sort of off-topic, but I remember being excited by the vast difference between the PC Speaker and Sound Blaster 16 sound effects in Wolfenstein 3D. Ah, I remember when the question wasn't whether to use onboard audio or a good sound card, but rather whether to have a sound card or just use the PC speaker.
I miss playing Master of Orion.. I wonder if there is a good game like that for the X51v. MoO 3 was not very good, unfortunately, and I'm tired of playing MoO 2.
keet said:
This is sort of off-topic, but I remember being excited by the vast difference between the PC Speaker and Sound Blaster 16 sound effects in Wolfenstein 3D. Ah, I remember when the question wasn't whether to use onboard audio or a good sound card, but rather whether to have a sound card or just use the PC speaker.
I miss playing Master of Orion.. I wonder if there is a good game like that for the X51v. MoO 3 was not very good, unfortunately, and I'm tired of playing MoO 2.
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1. Yeah, Wolf3D, back in 1992, was REALLY cool on a stereo soundcard like the SB Pro because of the stereo digitized voice helping a lot finding out where are you shot at from.
2. Did you check out my MS-DOS Emulation Bible on whether MoO can be emulated under WinMo?
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1. Yeah, Wolf3D, back in 1992, was REALLY cool on a stereo soundcard like the SB Pro because of the stereo digitized voice helping a lot finding out where are you shot at from.
2. Did you check out my MS-DOS Emulation Bible on whether MoO can be emulated under WinMo?
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Wow people are still writing on my thread I thought this thing was dead, so what is this MS0-DOS Emulation Bible you speek of? Is there any way of playing the old DOS based Sierra games on my PDA like Kings Quest or Quest for Glory, I think I'd give on of my kindneys if thats what it would take to make that happen!
Also does anyone know any good tutorials on Wargus on you'r PPC, I've got the game to work, I learned how to save, I just can't figure out the stupid sound. and I can't find anything thats either not in Russian or like 3 years old.
This is awesome!
i got both to work, however when i tried to change the controls through the .cfg file the way i would with doom, it just messed up the controls even more, making left and right now strafe left and right. I'm not able to set any values like i was on doom. for example I tried to make Fire the windows key, but that didnt work.
Is there a source code avaible? I know some people who may be able to fix it up!
Hi guys,
I'm trying to pick between the two. The main problem I'm having is whether I'll miss having a physical keyboard. As I wont be able to have a play with either of these phones before I make a purchase I want to be completely sure that I'm picking the phone I'm going to prefer.
So whats your opinion? Is the HD's keyboard suitable for you?
Do you miss playing silly small games on your HD? How are games on the Pro?
Also another important thing for me is the performance, I heard the Diamond can be quite laggy (With the Touchflow, which I plan on turning off anyway) but I would still like to know if the Pro is just as bad as the Diamond, and whether the HD is a significant improvement!
Cheers,
Luke
diamond rocks
There is a small lag , BUt it again depends on wether the ROM is a light one or a packed one . There are many out here , lighter ones ..for eg V7 , and there is one other fact about these phones , that if you do have a lot of calender enteries and contacts ...it lags a little ...
Calender entries aren't a big deal, don't tend to take full advantage of the calender. Though I do have 60+ contacts.
Have Diamond and I like it but wish I'd waited for the HD. I don't miss the keyboard from the hermes much as I expected.
Keyboard
I'm using a Herald. During some days I used the Diamond keyboard SIP, but after a hard-reset I did not install it again.
I'm using the physical keyboard when sitting or stopping in a comfortable place (office, train, restaurant) and I must work a lot (i.e. writing some project memories or preparing some lectures); on other cases, I usually try to use the stylus. When at building, I fear about missing the stylus (or maybe missing myself) in some concrete reservoir or some hole, so I liked to use the Diamond keyboard SIP, to write some small notes. So, my experience is I use keyboard about 30% of my time.
Looking the HD and the Pro specifications, I suppose they don't defer more than in design and small details.
If you need to work as "at home", I suggest you to get the device with built-in keyboard.
Thanks for the replys guys.
As I do a fair amount of blogging and web browsing I have been thinking that the Pro might be best suited for me, but on the other hand I do use remote desktop a lot (From work to my home PC) so being able to use remote desktop "On-the-go" would be rather handy especially on the large screen of the HD.
Another question I have is how often do you Pro and Diamond users make use of the D-pad? It doesn't seem like it would have very much use on a touch screen WM device.
D-Pad? Hardly ever.
Hi everyone,
Looking at the specs of the TP and the TP2 I notice no main difference in Processor or RAM setup.
In "my world" the same processes and ram need to handle a larger graphical array, so it should respond slower.....
So I start to wonder..... Why is the feedback positive on the responsiveness of the TF3D on the TP2 but not for the TP.
Is the TF3Dv2 more efficient programmed, are there less options/task done by v2 or am I overlooking something? ... Well I for sure would love the landscape support.
I did install the G-Sens software that was extracted for the TP2 ROM and I love it.
Most of you might not like TF3D, but once your used to it, it is really easy to control the phone with one hand. And it looks great in my opinion. (The Black theme)
For more detailed work I use the stylus, but not for placing a quick call of opening a Mail/SMS/etc.
Ok. Let’s recap, people like TF3D, It is faster on the TP2 with the same resources..... But I will need a newer version of the phone to do get the same OS and run smoothly with the same but improved interface ?
Will it be possible to make a TP2 ROM that fit’s the TP.... ?
Just for the software and dual-speaker/mic support that I seldom use I would never buy a new phone.
I use a real conference phone, long distance calls are to expensive on my mobile in the first place.
could you post a link to the g-sens software? thx
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could you post a link to the g-sens software? thx
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I want it too =)
This is what you're looking for Zaleo?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486471
Still a work in progress.
GSENSOR App
Here's the Gsensor app you wanted.
Lovely !!!!!
That is what I am looking for... Whoooohoooo...
why did I not found it when I was searching..... (Sorry)
It's just crossing my mind this idea to downgrade from WP7 to WM6.x. Yes, it has been told that this two platforms are completely different thing, on hardware and software base. But, after looking at the HD2 forum that is dedicated to HD2s update from WM6.5 to WP7 the idea just could be right.
Switching from WM6.5 to WP7 made me nostalgic for WM6.5 and it's programs, settings... Well, I guess that, as a lot of people, I haven't asked around about WP7 enough to see how it works and what it gives. But, I do like this phone, and especially 1GHz processor, 5MP camera, touch screen and other things (o yeah the battery is much better) that it comes hard to me to have this mighty thing that is all locked up. It could be that in a year or so, from now, it will be better than WM6.5 but considering all that time needed to get it close to WM6.5 and original idea to create WP7 (to make it easy-to-use and lot less custom) it stands on this OS just like gray cloud.
Just wanted to write this, and if someone shares my opinion I would be most glad to hear about it.
Maybe it will be possible to get to WM6.5...
nope cant be done sorry. just install the mango beta it blows wm6.5 out of the water.
Yes, I do try to think like that, and then I realize that I need SatNav. And, no GPS navigation software can't be installed, for time being, there is no Garmin, IGo, TomTom...
I'll definitely stick to this phone, and Mango I'll update. Hope it'll make my life simpler.
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Yes, I do try to think like that, and then I realize that I need SatNav. And, no GPS navigation software can't be installed, for time being, there is no Garmin, IGo, TomTom...
I'll definitely stick to this phone, and Mango I'll update. Hope it'll make my life simpler.
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Garmin StreetPilot is now in Marketplace for a hefty $39.99, but unfortunately still does not include fully installed maps. Maps can however be downloaded ahead of time to the phone for the relevant route.
for unlocked device you have Navigon select...
My Arrive came with TeleNav. And the built in Bing stuff does turn by turn (with an upgrade coming in Mango). I don't see GPS apps as being an issue.
Yeap, now the future looks better.
as longer I use WP7 the more I wish a downgrade to WM6.5!!!
Where is my (momentary VERY needed) possibility to use tethering!? How do I synch "get away ALL your music and videos, blahblah..." all my things WITHOUT the scrapy Zune-SW, and (haha!) how I can increase the memory for it!?
****ty menues (just 5 stupid icons -what I there are several, much more options!?!?), it's not possible for the developers to install a dedicated database (so you have to make it "in the cloud") -yeah!!!! It's SO stupid on a MOBILE phone, as there often is the possibility that you're NOT online, or with GPRS or EDGE only -and it is SO funny if you're in a train and all 5 secondy it switsh from G to E to G3 to G to HSDPA. The last ****! :-(
The IE on it often don't work. Hmmm -let's use Opera. Uuuh -damned -I forget: you can't install ANYTHING!!!
OK -exceptional jailbreak, but I never did it before, and I don't want it -but I HAVE to do it, if I want to USE my phone.
I think it's better to reactivate my HD2 -there is ALL functionable, without any problems. And: it contains much data that i need -and there is NO possibilty to migrate SMS (i.e.) to WP7 -VERY poor performance Microsoft!!!!
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as longer I use WP7 the more I wish a downgrade to WM6.5!!!
Where is my (momentary VERY needed) possibility to use tethering!? How do I synch "get away ALL your music and videos, blahblah..." all my things WITHOUT the scrapy Zune-SW, and (haha!) how I can increase the memory for it!?
****ty menues (just 5 stupid icons -what I there are several, much more options!?!?), it's not possible for the developers to install a dedicated database (so you have to make it "in the cloud") -yeah!!!! It's SO stupid on a MOBILE phone, as there often is the possibility that you're NOT online, or with GPRS or EDGE only -and it is SO funny if you're in a train and all 5 secondy it switsh from G to E to G3 to G to HSDPA. The last ****! :-(
The IE on it often don't work. Hmmm -let's use Opera. Uuuh -damned -I forget: you can't install ANYTHING!!!
OK -exceptional jailbreak, but I never did it before, and I don't want it -but I HAVE to do it, if I want to USE my phone.
I think it's better to reactivate my HD2 -there is ALL functionable, without any problems. And: it contains much data that i need -and there is NO possibilty to migrate SMS (i.e.) to WP7 -VERY poor performance Microsoft!!!!
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wow where to start. this is probably the most ignorant post I've read on here thus far and with poor grammar at that. my arrive has had wonderful performance since the day I got it and it has improved even further since I installed the mango beta. the live tiles are awesome makes android and iOS seem like nothing but app launchers, the whole concept of apps is overrated and I can do a lot of things without having to even launch an app. and IE9 runs circes around opera. especially the one on WM.
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wow where to start. this is probably the most ignorant post I've read on here thus far and with poor grammar at that. my arrive has had wonderful performance since the day I got it and it has improved even further since I installed the mango beta. the live tiles are awesome makes android and iOS seem like nothing but app launchers, the whole concept of apps is overrated and I can do a lot of things without having to even launch an app. and IE9 runs circes around opera. especially the one on WM.
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Hmmm... It's not the performance that is question. But, it's functionality. Migrating from WM6.5 to WP7 should, at least I thought, have been compatible, eg. SMS, Connection settings (WiFi, Phone...), Contact (I've had to do it the old fashion way, by typing contacts manual / an then I found out about sync with WLive ).
It feels like I have powerful thing (excellent hardware), but it does non better than Nokia 3310. Just raw speed, for basic things.
Hi eric -I'm not a native speaker (english) -but give us some probes from your netherlands, german and french
But as I can see, you're able to read what I wrote, and thats what matter.
But back to topic: What sense is in a phone that is unusable in much functions DIRECTLY. For everyone -not just for people which have the time, the skills und of course the desire to make an jailbreak (which causes lost of guarantee), rebuild the phone several times, have so read several manuals, howtos and search for betas, previews.
I'd tried the Desire Z (just because of the same why I buy the 7 Pro -it's a type & touch) -and send it bach 2 days later to amazon. It's exactly what you wrote: just app-launchers! I hate apple., because of their "we tell you what to do" -and with WP7 it cames to me. I don't wanna do a jailbreak -but I didn't have an alternative (if I want to USE the phone) :-(
Maybee other people have the possibility and time to try the mango beta -and it seems that I MUST do it, or I have to sell the phone (what will make me very sad -a VERY good piece of hardware!!)
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Hi eric -I'm not a native speaker (english) -but give us some probes from your netherlands, german and french
But as I can see, you're able to read what I wrote, and thats what matter.
But back to topic: What sense is in a phone that is unusable in much functions DIRECTLY. For everyone -not just for people which have the time, the skills und of course the desire to make an jailbreak (which causes lost of guarantee), rebuild the phone several times, have so read several manuals, howtos and search for betas, previews.
I'd tried the Desire Z (just because of the same why I buy the 7 Pro -it's a type & touch) -and send it bach 2 days later to amazon. It's exactly what you wrote: just app-launchers! I hate apple., because of their "we tell you what to do" -and with WP7 it cames to me. I don't wanna do a jailbreak -but I didn't have an alternative (if I want to USE the phone) :-(
Maybee other people have the possibility and time to try the mango beta -and it seems that I MUST do it, or I have to sell the phone (what will make me very sad -a VERY good piece of hardware!!)
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odd,i didn't have to do any of that when I got my Arrive. just open the box, enter my live ID and I was good to go. wp7 is not an app launcher as almost everything can be done without even having to go into an app. with the mango beta which is easy to install i can identify a song that's playing, a product for the best price,get directions somewhere (even in malls),find something to do in the area, buy movie tickets,search the web and watch html5 videos in HD quality,check my Facebook,chat on Facebook and check in. and many other things. install the mango beta and u'll feel much better about it.
Hold on. The core of any smartphone are applications. Staring with earliest versions of WM, Symbian, iOS, Android, Droid, WP7, they all the same with a final porpoise, and that is an application/s.
Therefore calling other systems "apps launcher" is contradiction. Because doing anything with a WP7 is being done via apps. Home screen is, just as in any other mobile system, a pile of shortcuts with a weather and the clock. The truth is that some systems are doing it, app launching, better than the others.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
With all of its hardware, as WP7 requires to run, this phone, or any WP7, will in the future be something good.
If you've played with WP7 enough, you'll find that the live tiles really preclude you from needing to actually launch the associated apps unnecessarily. Because of this, the commenter was calling the other Mobile OS versions more of an "app launcher" because, in general, you need to launch the app to interact with it. (Google has widgets, but those widgets aren't quite the same.) With WP7, you can glance-and-go (one of the tenants that MS imparted into the Metro design) and only launch apps when there is a required interaction. It really is a different approach, and one that I think works very well.
Please give some comparison for WP7 and other mobile OS (mOS).
As hard as I try, and I do like to play around with WP7, I just can't find anything that makes WP7 better than other mOS.
Eg. When email or SMS arrive, on WP7s homescreen shows a count of these items, and on the other hand, Symbian do just the same. So, where is the difference?
So far, the only thing that is obviously better are things-apps that have something to do with the internet (Windows Live, Email, Internet Explorer, Youtube) or with the 1GHz processor (apps do work better with stronger processor, so by having stronger processor apps work better and it isn't because of WP7).
you sound like you're determined to be underwhelmed by wp7. yes, when you get an SMS, the homescreen tells you that you have one....that's what phones do. What more is there for a phone to do with an sms?
WP7 is highly innovative from a UI standpoint. What you seem to be interested in, however, is the menu-heavy micromanaging style of old school winmo. If you want to be able to micromanage every last little thing about your phone go to a different platform. WP7 does everything it is purported to do, if you are not getting what you wanted, then you didn't do your homework before you dropped god-knows-how-much on a phone. these days, it's not about which platform is better, it's about preference. It's getting to the point where every platform can do all the really important things really well. so how do you want your phone to look? that's what you're buying.
Don't get me wrong, but what you are saying is what I've been saying. That is, WP7 as any other mOS is not new in functionality but it is different in GUI. Other qualities are not available to be seen, since there are no apps which can show it.
For now, WP7, only offers basic features.
I have been wondering the same thing since the 1 st rumors of windows phone 7 but still a no go. Its ironic ms stripped away so many of the things that made wm only to get beat out by the former clone of themselves....android. I love the form the tp2 & wish they wouldve released an hd2 with a keyboard. They shouldve stripped the name windows,hired a special team that managed themes system wide so that u have eye candy without it being resource heavy & hired a marketing team that would make apple & google have nightmares.
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I have been wondering the same thing since the 1 st rumors of windows phone 7 but still a no go. Its ironic ms stripped away so many of the things that made wm only to get beat out by the former clone of themselves....android. I love the form the tp2 & wish they wouldve released an hd2 with a keyboard. They shouldve stripped the name windows,hired a special team that managed themes system wide so that u have eye candy without it being resource heavy & hired a marketing team that would make apple & google have nightmares.
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that's what they are doing with the mango update that's near release and the beta is already out and I find that im able to do just as much if not more than WM6.5 and android (former TP2 owner and loved it, had an EVO **** for a week and hated it).
Hi,
I followed eric12341's suggestion and have the mango-beta installed (and have buyed a developer account, to make side-loads possible). And some things were better (slow was it not before -hey, it have a 1GHz CPU, it HAVE to be fast ), but there are so many things which waste time. If I want to have a (exact) look of charging, I have to go through some menue-points. As I often in transit by railways, I have to set date several times, and the WM-calendar (and to set the time) is MUCH more effective, as I didnt't have to use the annoying slider-gadgets. Maybe it looks nice, but it waste much time. Before it was just 3 tips, no it's an orgy -the possebility to change the style would be great! And local database for apps -to find the connecting-train while you have no network (and EVERY thing have to be found over network when you want to set start and target of you travel, because of the impossebillity of local databases) is a horror! Before: 10 seconds, now 3 minutes -or longer, as often there is no network in the train. :-(
And unfortunately many very good (sideload)-apps will not longer work after mango. And when I can make a backup from my data, if I want to upgrade memory, or have to change it (because of defectivs, i.e.). And not all of my friend have Zune installed, but they have good music, pdf's or anything else for me. The next thing I was wondering: why I can only set my own ringtons for calling? What'a about SMS, email, and so on?? ^^
Sorry for the bad english -hope it was not to hard to read. :-(
Groby, thanks for the info. I was looking for some info about Mango.
Navigating via online updating is absolutely annoying. It takes for ever to download map, and there are no detailed maps, but only hi-ways and few byways.
I looks like this operating system is way out from it's time, for about good year or so.
If developers could make downgrade to WM 6.x, it would make this phone a dream.