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Before you suggest i change the battery.. it's just fine.
the problem started the day i flashed WM6 (over a month back) and has only started to bug me lately as my phone died on me 3 days in a row.
basically the moment the battery level gets down to 40-50% the phone just dies.. i could reset it and it powers up for a second or so then it dies again.
i flashed WM5 back.. and the phone was working fine even if the battery level reached 10% (i get a warning bubble but it doesn't just die on me!)
i've searched around and noticed the only suggestions were to change the battery, which seemed kinda useless as i'm almost sure the problem is somewhere in WM6 power management/battery handling.
any comments?
Try another WM6.
If you used Helmi's/Jwright's try DarkForce's/PDAVIET, or vice versa.
Mate I can get mine to die at 90% battery just by switching WIFI Bluetooth and opening a CPU intensive app (Google maps/Tom-Tom).
I’ve ordered a new battery and its coming next week so I will see if this is any better.
This is more than likely a Current problem, an in the battery cant supply enough amps for the phone to function properly, im almost certain that the WM6 ROMS do cause more current to be drawn from the battery but it is most likely that this is just highlighting that the battery is on its last legs.
Ill post back when the new one comes, If its doesn’t fix my problem I will be flashing back to the standard WM5 ROM to do some tests.
its probably the battery
i had the same problem. a new battery fixed it. it would die at 45% but now works all the way down to 5%.
new batt or borrow one from a friend to test.
I have seen the same thing on the BA fora as well: It's not that the whole batery is dead, but some of the cells in the battery are.
There it was also fixed with a new(er) battery...
I had to add a comment
I use a Exec with WM6 and i have a MDA Pro that i keep trying different roms on so i can use and mess with it and at the same time keep my sort of stable exec for work.
i do swop batteries between phones and so on, i cant say what roms i am useing when this happen but i have the same problem on the MDA Pro 40-45% it shuts off, reset and it starts for a second then shuts off, so i then put the battery from the exec ( charged ) in the MDA and away it goes my exec happly sits there at 40 or so % and will go down to 0 flat.
So its not the battery its the phone, but as said by someone else it could be dependent on what rom i am useing at the time
It is the battery..100%...pls buy a new one or try exchange from yr friend..nothing wrong with the Phone..
I tested every wm5 and wm6 roms and i have two batteries: one dies at 35% while the other never dies but gives warnings on the red side.
tailazoom said:
I tested every wm5 and wm6 roms and i have two batteries: one dies at 35% while the other never dies but gives warnings on the red side.
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I still think the main problem is the battery.
But I think WM6 just uses more power intensively then WM5 does. That would be the reason the phone dies.
Mine always goes back on again but then dies booting the OS.
Had the same problem with old PDAVIET rom
Hi, had the same problem with the old PDAVIET ROM 2.08 somethign or other, but since upgrading to 2.10.02, everything is back to normal, and lightning fast.
Try the newer ROM, and then see if the same happens, and if it does, then it is the battery which is definately causing the problem.
Kevin
I have read somewhere in these forums that when the Networks release their official ROMs for upgrades they all clearly state that you should ensure your battery is at 100% charge as when you run the ROM upgrade the battery management resets its self to the level of the battery.........ie it assumes 100% but if your battery is at only 50%, then 50% becomes what it believes to be 100% therefore half the battery life.
I have to kind of agree with this because my first WM6 upgrade I was so eager to do my M5000 had only been on charge for 10mins or so and after the upgrade battery life was awful, however since then I upgrade only after my M5000 has been at 100% for about 30mins and since have not had any issues wahtsoever with battery life
Hope this helps
Shaunfarris said:
I have read somewhere in these forums that when the Networks release their official ROMs for upgrades they all clearly state that you should ensure your battery is at 100% charge as when you run the ROM upgrade the battery management resets its self to the level of the battery.........ie it assumes 100% but if your battery is at only 50%, then 50% becomes what it believes to be 100% therefore half the battery life.
I have to kind of agree with this because my first WM6 upgrade I was so eager to do my M5000 had only been on charge for 10mins or so and after the upgrade battery life was awful, however since then I upgrade only after my M5000 has been at 100% for about 30mins and since have not had any issues wahtsoever with battery life
Hope this helps
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I thought it was because when you put your device into BL and flash it to a new rom, during the upgrade the phone won't charge.
So if you update with only 10% battery the device could turn off during the flash, and that would be a bad thing.
So they state (advice) to charge it to 100% before flashing.
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I thought it was because when you put your device into BL and flash it to a new rom, during the upgrade the phone won't charge.
So if you update with only 10% battery the device could turn off during the flash, and that would be a bad thing.
So they state (advice) to charge it to 100% before flashing.
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Wrong. The previous poster is 100% correct. Better charge your battery to 100% before flashing.
What should I do if I had ROMed my Uni not in 100% bat.?
Your PDA needs to be fully charged because during the flashing the battery is not charging. So if your phone runs out of battery before the upload has finished you are screwed.
I never believe that the state of the battery is been used as the 100% level of your battery during flashing. I make elektronics myself, the battery level is always measured elektronically.
I had the same issue. I fix it with a new battery and works fine since then.
A bit of both
WM6 does use more current compared to WM5 and most of us have been torturing our Uni's with all the flashing we do (We don't use them as a phone much more of an intellectual playfield) . Also most of us have had the Uni for a year and some longer. My XDA Exec is 2 years and T-Mobile MDA Pro a year in sometime. The batteries are a bit older and unable to supply the increased power as before. I do have this problem if I use the older batt on WM6 and the newer batt works just fine. But then again the older batt works fine on the MDA pro (unchanged with original MDA Roms).
Cheers
Battery
Hi,
i was suffering from the same batery issue in the last 10-12 months, and let me share my experinces. After my original battery started to die first at 20% and finally at 50% i bought a new one. I read tonns of articles about LI-POLymer batteries and tried o follow as it was written. The result : after 4 months my new battery is in the same state. I bought 2 other. When i started to use the first, i had always recharge it between 10-20%. Now this battery dies at 12-15%. I let my latest battery to go down to 3 % ALWAYS and after 5 months NO PROBLEM AT ALL!.
So my experience:
-let the bttery go down. I don't care what other experts say about the characteristic of Li-Polymer. For me it seems that practice is different.
-NEVER,NEVER,NEVER cahrge the battery if it is not empty. In my car if I want to use my UNI for listening music or GPS then i REPLACE MY GOOD BATTERY with the old one, and then i use the car charger. With my laptop i use only BLUETOOTH connections
-ALWAYS USE original charger. No laptop, no car charging
-If i do an upgrade for any ROM i ALWAYS DO THE UPGRADE WITH THE OLD BATTERY.
-USE at least 2 batteries, one is always charged fully, and if the other goes down you can replace it quickly
I am sure that there are many experts, who can tell me why i am wrong, but the pratice seems to work for me. And i have not found any experts who could explain these strange situations with UNI. Now I have 3 batteries. All is about 10 months old. One dies between 30-50%, the other dies always at 10-12% and the last always at 2-3%.
crikey, the device is big enough as it is without carrying around more batterys. Mine's starting to die at 70% now. When it reboots it seems to die when the radio stack is activated. Had it for 13 months now my stylus falls out too had to put cellotape around it which has sorted it.
Just waiting for three(uk) to bring out the tytn so i can move over with their x-series stuff!!! woohooo!
I've had mine about 13 months now and it started dying at 40% left then 60% then 85% (of battery left!). I bought a new battery and 3 days later without charging it's still on 65% left
I have a new issue with my backlight. I didn't really see anything scanning a search on backlight so I'm hoping someone has seen this before and can help.
I just got a new 3200mah battery. Ever since I started using it, after turning off the device, I go back to it, press the power button or backlight button and while the screen itself comes on, the backlight does not. No light at all. I also often find that the screen is on already when I open the phone (which might explain why my battery is sometimes finding itself dead in a matter of a couple hours). I change the backlight setting to be the second tick on the scale (lowest light level) and turn the phone off again and then if I go back to it 5 mins later it's gone back to the first tick (off) on its own. However, turning on the phone right after I turn it off and it stays at the first tick. I've not be able to figure out why it keeps resetting itself to off.
Please, if you are familiar with this can you offer some direction? I'm using Helmi's WM6
Thanks
I never encountered this problem.. have you tried to keep pressed the power button and verify that backlight turns on? Or is a settings problem (backlight settings turn itself automatically to zero)?
It 0's itself. I can turn it back on again with a little difficulty (as it's hard to see the screen without the backlight).
really weird ...
have you try back to use the original battery? just for check is it something wrong with your 3200?
if it still ... (also for all problem that i can not solve) ... backup all data and ... hard reset!!
Backlight fixed with new flash...battery problem now
Ok, I reflashed with the Business rom and the backlight issue is gone. However, I have another issue now. When I charge it overnight, in the morning the power light is green, but if the Universal is off when it goes green it seems to hang and I have to reset. If the Universal is on, it responds fine. However, in both cases, when I unplug the power from the Universal, the light stays solid green and requires a reset to show the true battery status.
Also in both cases, after this overnight charge, the battery dies within an hour or two, the power level going down to 4%. As a result, I end up charging it at work (with a different charger) until it gets to 100%. I haven't tried leaving it to charge longer. But once charged on my work charger it seems to discharge properly without dying in an hour or two.
I'm very perplexed by this situation. Is this a battery problem, charger problem, phone problem? The battery, as I mentioned earlier, is a brand new 3200mah. Should I return for an exchange? I'm looking for any comments at this point.
Battery
Timeshell said:
Ok, I reflashed with the Business rom and the backlight issue is gone. However, I have another issue now. When I charge it overnight, in the morning the power light is green, but if the Universal is off when it goes green it seems to hang and I have to reset. If the Universal is on, it responds fine. However, in both cases, when I unplug the power from the Universal, the light stays solid green and requires a reset to show the true battery status.
Also in both cases, after this overnight charge, the battery dies within an hour or two, the power level going down to 4%. As a result, I end up charging it at work (with a different charger) until it gets to 100%. I haven't tried leaving it to charge longer. But once charged on my work charger it seems to discharge properly without dying in an hour or two.
I'm very perplexed by this situation. Is this a battery problem, charger problem, phone problem? The battery, as I mentioned earlier, is a brand new 3200mah. Should I return for an exchange? I'm looking for any comments at this point.
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Hi,
The locking up could be down to the overclocking/stepping built-in to some of the newer Roms. Some Uni's over/underclock quite happily some do not. Mine will happily overclock but locks up when stepping back down.
As far as the battery/charge issue it could be the battery itself or the charger, when charging at work are you using USB to charge and mains at home? It could be that the mains charger is charging too quickly for the battery to hold the charge and the device reads the battery as 100% and thus stops charging it, whereas the USB trickle charge is slower and thus the charge remains for longer.
Do you have another battery to test?
It could simply be the battery, there have been a lot of reports of Ebay batterys not reporting and holding charge correctly.
Cheers,
Beasty
Yes it is an eBay battery. The charger at work is a "main", however, not an original "main", but its also an eBay special. The original "main" at home was designed for UK but I'm in Canada so there's a voltage difference but within the tolerance indicated on it's input definitions.
I'm however inclined to agree with the "trickle charge" comment. It could be charging more slowly. And I have not left it to see if the charge light will lock on green after the charge. I'll try that during the day and charge overnight with the work charger to see if I get the same result.
I'm still open to more comments.
when you charge your 3.200 next time, try this ... on backlight uncheck turn off backlight on battery power. I hope its work for you too.
backlight problem
hello, lately I have a problem with my PPC i-mate MDA Pro with wm 6.1 v2 rom by capante for universal, the problem is that the backlight often does not turn, the screen remains off to the lowest level of light, please who can give me a hand for resolve this problem?
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hello, lately I have a problem with my PPC i-mate MDA Pro with wm 6.1 v2 rom by capante for universal, the problem is that the backlight often does not turn, the screen remains off to the lowest level of light, please who can give me a hand for resolve this problem?
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I had the same prob with a ROM used on the past, backlight movet to lowest or even off randomly.
I corrected changing to another ROM.
innuendo1973 said:
hello, lately I have a problem with my PPC i-mate MDA Pro with wm 6.1 v2 rom by capante for universal, the problem is that the backlight often does not turn, the screen remains off to the lowest level of light, please who can give me a hand for resolve this problem?
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well try hard reset or try new rom...
Hi All,
Got this funny problem since I have flashed TNT WM6.1.
My mobile battery shows some funny traits.
1. It can suddenly go off (even if the bar is at 87% or 63% or 30% or anything of that sort)
2. Once it goes off, it gets into a loopback of restarting the device, goes upto the screen where WM6.1 logo appears and restarts again.
3. The only way I can then get it restarted is to get it to plug to a powersource.
4. When I plugin it shows within 5 min that the battery is fully charged.
5. I use audio manager a lot and its like every 30 seconds 1% of battery is gone.
Have search through the forum but haven't found anything like this.
Anyone has face a similar problem and found any solution?
Any help will be much appreciated.
I am on SPL/IPL 3.08.
Time for a new battery....
I ran across the same problem. It turned out that the terminals on the battery were seriously worn down so much that the battery couldn't hold a charge to safe it's life let alone mine!!!! I went to a battery store and replaced the muthaf^$#a!!!!!
Go grab a new battery and you'll be electric sliding again in no time!!!!
Thanks Trej3k. Much appreciate your response.
Yeah
Had the same issue.
Replaced the battery ... and now everything is fine.
Now I don't expect 5 days without recharge but at least 2 days.
Along with the new battery I bought an battery charger so now I can use two batteries.
The nice thing is that the old battery is lasting at least as the new one, Maybe because of the charging more regularly and not so frequently and because both batteries never go in usage when they are hot of charge.
Try your thing
Aldo
I had the same problem pretty soon after I flashed my ROM for the first time. I would charge to 100% and then browse the Internet or take a call, and the device would reset within a couple of minutes b/c it would think it was out of power. The timing may have been a coincidence; I don't know. I bought an extended battery and everything works fine now.
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I had the same problem pretty soon after I flashed my ROM for the first time. I would charge to 100% and then browse the Internet or take a call, and the device would reset within a couple of minutes b/c it would think it was out of power. The timing may have been a coincidence; I don't know. I bought an extended battery and everything works fine now.
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I had the exact same problem right after flashing to wm6. I really wonder if it's a coincidence.
I ordered a new battery today because I have exactly the same problem. I also apeared after flashing WM6.1 a while ago an became worse with time. Since my battery is 3 years old, it could also just be a battery at its end of life...
Regards,
Rudi
I used to get the JASJAR battery issue by blacking out on X% - X%
but not anymore when i bought a new battery and replaced it with my old one, but i found there is an issue with the new one when i fully charge it till it shows green light suddenly the JASJAR freez and wont work till i soft rest
this forbidding me from fully charging it and really a pain in the ass when i leave it to charge overnight while im sleeping but when i woke up i find that it freezed as it shows green even if i pull the charger wire from it till i soft rest again.
in this case i prevent to keep it on the charger for long time to fully charge because i fear to lose any phone call or anything during freezing.
anybody knows the solution for this issue?
oras said:
I used to get the JASJAR battery issue by blacking out on X% - X%
but not anymore when i bought a new battery and replaced it with my old one, but i found there is an issue with the new one when i fully charge it till it shows green light suddenly the JASJAR freez and wont work till i soft rest
this forbidding me from fully charging it and really a pain in the ass when i leave it to charge overnight while im sleeping but when i woke up i find that it freezed as it shows green even if i pull the charger wire from it till i soft rest again.
in this case i prevent to keep it on the charger for long time to fully charge because i fear to lose any phone call or anything during freezing.
anybody knows the solution for this issue?
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Perhaps if you try to install another ROM could solve the problem
Hope it helps and good luck,
I'm having the same problem. Have tried 2 ROM. I'm using 3200 mah battery. I'm not really sure about this, but when I'm using the 1600 mah battery, it seems ok. I'll try again tonight charging with 1600 mah battery
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I'm having the same problem. Have tried 2 ROM. I'm using 3200 mah battery. I'm not really sure about this, but when I'm using the 1600 mah battery, it seems ok. I'll try again tonight charging with 1600 mah battery
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I Have 1600 mah battery
The Original One
oras said:
I used to get the JASJAR battery issue by blacking out on X% - X%
but not anymore when i bought a new battery and replaced it with my old one, but i found there is an issue with the new one when i fully charge it till it shows green light suddenly the JASJAR freez and wont work till i soft rest
this forbidding me from fully charging it and really a pain in the ass when i leave it to charge overnight while im sleeping but when i woke up i find that it freezed as it shows green even if i pull the charger wire from it till i soft rest again.
in this case i prevent to keep it on the charger for long time to fully charge because i fear to lose any phone call or anything during freezing.
anybody knows the solution for this issue?
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I had this problem two times with two new batteries, I sent them back to the supplier, it's not a matter of ROM (tried on my Universal and on another Uni of a friend, same behaviour) it's a battery problem.
Marco.
yes it is battery problem, UNI won't wake up when full charging.
so make it not sleep when charging
try to change setting -> battery power
do not check on external power.
hope it work
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yes it is battery problem, UNI won't wake up when full charging.
so make it not sleep when charging
try to change setting -> battery power
do not check on external power.
hope it work
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This Is Smart
defiantly will try it out tonight
I had similar problem, but it was ROM-related. Try re-flashing Tomal 8.2 and see if it solves it. Nothing to lose. If doesn't work - you know it has to be the battery.
I generally re-flash when problems appear, especially when you had the same ROM for some time. Solves most of things.
Best of luck
Hi
my polaris seems dead... I was using it when it turned off and sice that moment it didn't turn on any more, unless you connect the power cable. The battery was charge when it turned off. When it is connected to the power cable it works, butthe battery goes from less than 10% to 100% in about 15-20 seconds, and if I disconnect the cable it turns off. Can somebody help me??
The polaris has the hard spl, and I can't reset the original spl because with the usb connection it freezes before windows starts.
Try cleaning the battery connections first then try a different battery.
The spl is not important, the battery or associated circuitry has failed, my guess would be the battery has a bad connection somewhere, thus the power meter reads max voltage, but when you try and draw current the voltage drops and the device switches off.
HTH
Kim
I've tried several times cleaning every single contact of the battery and of the phone... Without any improvement.. I hope it's because of the battery: I'm waiting for a new one, it will arrive in some days..
I want to say that I use my cruise for a lot of hours talking (about 400 hours in the last 4 months).. But the battery life during the last period was also improved.. I really don't know.
THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO WILL ANSWER THIS THREAD
Problem solved
Today I had my new battery and now my polaris is working fine.
Lots of thanks to cozzykim, who answered my question.
Bye
Alessandro