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now everyone has root what next

Now that everyone is happy to get root back. What do you think the next big thing coming for this phone is.
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I want to see something like OpenArena get ported :-D, or some game that actually uses the 3D power on this jawn!! Pref FPS and using the accelorameter.
Anyways, good looks to everyone who helped in getting this going, I was stuck with an unrooted rc30 for a minute!! thanks!!!

When I get time, I want to play around and see if any emulators can run and access the framebuffer without going through Java.
Plenty of the major console emulators (nintendo, sega, arcades, neo-geo, etc.) have been compiled to run on ARM processors already (GP2X/GP32). I'd love to see them on a G1, tho it might take doing the Debian thing to get to where they'd actually work.

Free sim unlock Or porting windows mobile

Yeah another 1+ for Windows Mobile on the G1.
More apps being developed that require root, (Home Today Screen) like WinMo....
Someone should just write out a list of things to do after root.

Can you WinMo-on-G1 guys keep your posts on this thread pretty please? That way the rest of us only have to ignore one thread.

I'm a little disappointed* that the pace of things is going so slow. I don't recall the timeline but when the iPhone was hacked, there were little programs popping out all over the place as people recompiled things for the OS.
*I'm not a programmer so I'm not going to tell others how to do their work. I presume native apps are coming and I'll be grateful when they get here at whatever pace.

What about flash? Iphone has a little app that lets them use flash. When's ours coming?

jcostantino said:
I'm a little disappointed* that the pace of things is going so slow. I don't recall the timeline but when the iPhone was hacked, there were little programs popping out all over the place as people recompiled things for the OS.
*I'm not a programmer so I'm not going to tell others how to do their work. I presume native apps are coming and I'll be grateful when they get here at whatever pace.
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Let's see.... iPhone came out how long ago? They still don't have cut & paste? They still don't have MMS? They still don't have ...... A LOT
Yet you are worried about the pace we are seeing things? Sorry, but major problems are being resolved daily.

card13 said:
What about flash? Iphone has a little app that lets them use flash. When's ours coming?
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It's already been developed, just give it some time to actually be released.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghIGj9r3_vc&eurl=http://www.i4u.com/article21711.html

Here's a question; now that we are all free from forced OTAs....
Will we know when cupcake gets released?

momentarylapseofreason said:
Here's a question; now that we are all free from forced OTAs....
Will we know when cupcake gets released?
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isn't that kind of a silly question?
how many times a day do you check these forums, or other android news sites?

Our google friends are working hard we are developing a lot of thing at the moment if you hop on irc once in a while it filled with devs. G1 it juss take time u got to wait. I been trying to get copy and paste ported but it need to developed in the sdk better. I am also porting touchflo to g1, well a knock off verison lol.

I would like to see desktop widgets. Like an RSS reader, weather forcasts, and music player.

fgizzard said:
isn't that kind of a silly question?
how many times a day do you check these forums, or other android news sites?
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Is it really though? Granted, while we will all eventually get it, would you know if it was being pushed OTA right this second? Historically, one or two people got the OTA update and they announced it.
However, now that everyone has OTA blocked (minus the people that don't bother and also don't frequent boards)...who is going to tell us if Google doesn't post something up the very second it is available?

then youll have to wait a few days.

Check the t-mobile forums, nothing yet.

momentarylapseofreason said:
However, now that everyone has OTA blocked (minus the people that don't bother and also don't frequent boards)...who is going to tell us if Google doesn't post something up the very second it is available?
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There's alway the question of the dev phones. No OTA update for them anyway, and google is going to tell the devs to upgrade their phone. There will probably be some kind of announce on android-development mailing lists as well.
Don't worry, we'll know, one way or the other

nodens2099 said:
There's alway the question of the dev phones. No OTA update for them anyway, and google is going to tell the devs to upgrade their phone. There will probably be some kind of announce on android-development mailing lists as well.
Don't worry, we'll know, one way or the other
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(Shaking hands & Jumping impatiently)
But I wanna know NOOOW

Our updates are blocked really? I honestly wondered if our phones downloaded the updates then tried installing the update or it sends the keys then updates. But the answer is not that important to search. As for things being done I believe Jf recompiled busybox from 1.8 mb to 700k and linked it to the system. That's a big step forward

New person saying hi and asking some Q's

Hi everyone xx
I've been lurking on the forum for a couple of weeks now and slowly getting the hang of things however I have a few questions.
I have an XDA Zest and I'm just confused of all the abbreviations and jargon on here that I'm not sure what apps and mods I can use.
I've figured out I can only go for things that are VGA and compatible with WM, but other than that I just feel stupid
I am quite techie minded and do learn quickly and have managed to do little things on my phone but 3 questions off the top of my head.
Can someone recommend a free MP3/media player for my phone, WMP is pants and has no way to set the bass or anything. Putting the word music into the search here brings up loads! I tried one called flip or something like that that was Iphone-ish but that was on a trial and I wasn't that keen on it.
I love changing themes on my phone but on this handset it just seems like such a minefield. I saw a lovely HTC high gloss one (I think) and I was just baffled by it all. Is there a dummies guide somewhere?
Also, I am constantly hitting the send or menu button when writing a text, is there an easy way to move these buttons?
Many thanks xx

Media player, there's two spring to mind, S2P and TCPMP. Search and ye shall find.

Many thanks. I had a look at TCPMP earlier but the site I was on said it was discontinued and now being charged for, I think I might have found the correct one.
Afterthought/ Maybe not, it keeps saying I have to send the crash.txt to the developers. After a search on here it seems it was a common thing, I'll carry on looking.
EDIT: I've got it working, I found a different CAB file someone posted and that one works!

at least you used the search ur in minority there
lol

Unfortunately the Zest is not an HTC phone, so you will not find any support for it here. It is Windows Mobile so you can use generic WM apps. The interface I believe is Spb Mobile Shell, so you can search for tweaks for that.

jayjay8585 said:
at least you used the search ur in minority there
lol
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lol as an avid forum user I realise how annoying it is.
Unfortunately the Zest is not an HTC phone, so you will not find any support for it here. It is Windows Mobile so you can use generic WM apps. The interface I believe is Spb Mobile Shell, so you can search for tweaks for that.
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Yes I did realise there wouldn't be much support but I have found so much information on here as it is and little bits and bats. I found a fab SIP on here last night which I love. I'm just not sure as to what I can and can't use, is it just basically check its VGA and WM compatible and some trial and error?

wanty said:
lol as an avid forum user I realise how annoying it is.
Yes I did realise there wouldn't be much support but I have found so much information on here as it is and little bits and bats. I found a fab SIP on here last night which I love. I'm just not sure as to what I can and can't use, is it just basically check its VGA and WM compatible and some trial and error?
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Yes basically that"s it

Great stuff, I'll be back for help when I've broke it then
Many thanks xx

New Home Screen Alternatives

I checked the first 3 pages of the forums and didn't see this posted.
Here are some upcoming home replacements for Android. One name that should be familiar to us old WinMo users and a "newcomer."
http://www.tat.se/home/
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pre...gs-support-for-symbian-and-android-along.html

they both look pretty cool but I think tathome looks like it might be a little more to my liking.

SPB isnt out yet, is tathome available yet, i didnt see a download.

+1 for TAT home it looks like it could be NICE I checked out the video (good music and all ;-)) here: http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/tat-home-the-gesture-powered-3d-home-screen-your-android-device/
I used SPB Mobile Shell 3.x with my Touch Pro and I wasn't too impressed.
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Here is a video of Mobile Shell http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/mwc-video-spb-mobile-shell-50-on-android IMO Mobile Shell is suffering from what it always has LAG!!!!! Even on the N1 it looked slow, maybe because it's BETA.

Negrito said:
SPB isnt out yet, is tathome available yet, i didnt see a download.
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I don't think it's out yet either. You can sign up for the preview here http://www.tat.se/home/ They said that "more information" will be sent later.

koricua74 said:
I don't think it's out yet either. You can sign up for the preview here http://www.tat.se/home/ They said that "more information" will be sent later.
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i signed up, thanks. good find.

I signed up as well hope I get to test.

wtphoto said:
I signed up as well hope I get to test.
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same here... looks like something to test at least...

Looks cool! I signed up for the TAT preview.

Hrm, TatHome looks like what I envisioned Android 'should be' , I'm liking the look it quite a bit!! Next: to find out whether it really runs that smoothly on my Hero. 3d and graphics are great, but if it slows my phone down in the slightest its automatically going to get turned off.

Fird said:
Hrm, TatHome looks like what I envisioned Android 'should be' , I'm liking the look it quite a bit!! Next: to find out whether it really runs that smoothly on my Hero. 3d and graphics are great, but if it slows my phone down in the slightest its automatically going to get turned off.
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cant imagine that it would slow it down anymore than sense but time will tell

muahaha, smooth as an iph*ne, and yet still kicking the pants off of it in terms of functionality = complete win for Android.

See, this is why Android is better, and why most everyone here bought an Android phone Since mostly everyone here probably signed up for that preview, the first person that gets the .apk for this, can you please post it up here incase they delay the preview to some people?

mrinehart93 said:
See, this is why Android is better, and why most everyone here bought an Android phone Since mostly everyone here probably signed up for that preview, the first person that gets the .apk for this, can you please post it up here incase they delay the preview to some people?
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+1 on this but at the same time this is why some dont want to develop for android

Why would it make them not want to develop for it? Because some devices have different specs? I'm just curious.

mrinehart93 said:
Why would it make them not want to develop for it? Because some devices have different specs? I'm just curious.
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Yes there are a lot of different spec'd Android phones out there but I think he is referencing the fact that Android apps are easier to "warez" than the apps on other OS's. All you have to do is sign up for the paid app extract the .apk post it somewhere. Also any dev can try to "reverse engineer" the app, change a few components and BAM it's on the Market as their "original" creation. Just my .2 cents

koricua74 said:
Yes there are a lot of different spec'd Android phones out there but I think he is referencing the fact that Android apps are easier to "warez" than the apps on other OS's. All you have to do is sign up for the paid app extract the .apk post it somewhere. Also any dev can try to "reverse engineer" the app, change a few components and BAM it's on the Market as their "original" creation. Just my .2 cents
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that is correct. when swype was first leaked I was actually talking to them about the bennifits of releasing it through the market instead of through manufacturers and one of the biggest concerns that was brought up was the fact that security for apps is too lax. now dont get me wrong everyone knows that for every security mesure there is always a way around it but android security just sucks thats why for the most part people afften have a free version and a donate version. if people can try it and like it then they are more likely to buy it rather than just pirate it. setcpu is a perfect example of this. sure the dev could have made it a protected app (but being a member here at xda he probably knew it was pointless) but he offers it free here and then if you like you can buy from the market to donate to help keep him developing.
so basically all im saying is...ok we all (me included) have pirated apps but if you like the app make sure to go buy it from the market and help keep these people developing for us.
I know I went off on a rant there but without intrest in app development this great platform will fail.

I might be the only here without pirated apps then haha. I did have CoPilot once, but I didn't like it much so I got rid of it. The only time I ever use something pirated is to try it. If I like it and feel the developer should get credit, then fine, I'll donate/buy it.

mrinehart93 said:
I might be the only here without pirated apps then haha. I did have CoPilot once, but I didn't like it much so I got rid of it. The only time I ever use something pirated is to try it. If I like it and feel the developer should get credit, then fine, I'll donate/buy it.
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same here the only thing I am using pirated right now is swype but thats only becuase there is no way to buy it. but thats also because im a cheap ass and maily use free apps unless I really find something useful but to date the only things that I have bought are setcpu and beautiful widgets. im trying cachemate now but it really doesnt seem to be very helpful. I wish I knew a little more about programing there is an app for the iphone that I would love to have on my hero.

i played around with "pandahome" some yesterday. it seems beta right now but they are apparently coming out with pandahome2 soon. it's a good idea, just not quite finished yet. (fc's and whatnot)
anyway you might go check it out (if your feeling froggy).
lots of options and skins ect.ect.ect.
marketplace. free.

Protected/Paid Market Apps on Fresh 2.0 working for me.

Despite the changelog saying they wouldn't work, paid apps are showing normally in the market. Previously purchased apps installed fine.
Anybody else seeing them?

Some paid apps aren't actually "protected". For instance, FeedR and Halp! (awesome app that my friends wrote, came out yesterday) shows up as purchased, but Twidroid (free OR paid) does not.

Did this really deserve it's own thread?

i noticed this too. Before the rom, I couldn't find android firewall or chompsms.... they are bother there now. However, I couldn't find bar code scanner. So some work some don't.
I was able to get the bar code scanner form the makers website to download

After a bit more searching, It seems I'm seeing only previously downloaded protected apps. But this is still nicer than having to install from backups. No problems fetching updates from the market.

Try to see if DroidLive is there.. not the lite version... thats a protected Pay app

mrcharlesiv said:
Did this really deserve it's own thread?
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i agree way to many extra topics floating around

Sporkman said:
i agree way to many extra topics floating around
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I kinda disagree. The threads are too full of crap and search is far from accurate. The moderators should make a better effort cleaning up the threads. The Fresh 2.0 thread is about 75% crap, redundancy and off topic.

where are the mods???

Flashed the new build over his old Eris 2.1 base ROM and I can see twidroid, DroidLive, Goggles, etc.

energizer1389 said:
I kinda disagree. The threads are too full of crap and search is far from accurate. The moderators should make a better effort cleaning up the threads. The Fresh 2.0 thread is about 75% crap, redundancy and off topic.
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U disagree? I could see if this was a forum dedicated to fresh rom, but its not. Therefor thats why there is a specific fresh thread. I dont see why people dont get this simple concept.

Since this thread is still here...
Has anyone just tried changing their build footprint via build.prop like in all of the other 2.1 versions?

Problem with Bing

Yesterday I tried to use Bing to get some local info, and I got thise trash.
The client update link is visible, but if you pres it you get the same "update?" BS.
So... Microsoft, if this is your attempt to funnel people toward WP7 BEFORE it's as usable, or *customizable* the current versions of WM devices, then by all means go f**k yourselves.
I'll be a Droid user if this is the game they want to play.
With that being said, if anybody has a useful work-around that DOES NOT involve the incredibly ****ty m.bing.com site then by all means, I would appreciate it.
PS:
If this is the wrong forum, i apologize. but i'm looking for help on this one if possible.

try all options
Well I never liked bing and use the google maps preloaded with my device. What features are you looking for that google maps doesnt have, then people could help you out better. Most people dont use bing except for movie listing part.

i use bing

Sean D. said:
Yesterday I tried to use Bing to get some local info, and I got thise trash.
The client update link is visible, but if you pres it you get the same "update?" BS.
So... Microsoft, if this is your attempt to funnel people toward WP7 BEFORE it's as usable, or *customizable* the current versions of WM devices, then by all means go f**k yourselves.
I'll be a Droid user if this is the game they want to play.
With that being said, if anybody has a useful work-around that DOES NOT involve the incredibly ****ty m.bing.com site then by all means, I would appreciate it.
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If this is the wrong forum, i apologize. but i'm looking for help on this one if possible.
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which device are u using?

i HATE microsoft with a passion!

Sean D. said:
Yesterday I tried to use Bing to get some local info, and I got thise trash.
The client update link is visible, but if you pres it you get the same "update?" BS.
So... Microsoft, if this is your attempt to funnel people toward WP7 BEFORE it's as usable, or *customizable* the current versions of WM devices, then by all means go f**k yourselves.
I'll be a Droid user if this is the game they want to play.
With that being said, if anybody has a useful work-around that DOES NOT involve the incredibly ****ty m.bing.com site then by all means, I would appreciate it.
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If this is the wrong forum, i apologize. but i'm looking for help on this one if possible.
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It seems by your theme that you're still using WM6.1. You may want to update to a 6.5 ROM.

I'm just preparing to swith into Android. I'm pised off with that WM crap... ;/

Moved as not Software release.

I had been using it mainly for local searching, movie times, and gas prices.
And yes I am still rocking an old WM6 ROM on a Kaiser.
But still, why just stop supporting it all together? That's pretty disloyal to the same people who have been loyal to them.

Sean D. said:
I had been using it mainly for local searching, movie times, and gas prices.
And yes I am still rocking an old WM6 ROM on a Kaiser.
But still, why just stop supporting it all together? That's pretty disloyal to the same people who have been loyal to them.
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just flash a wm 6.5 rom n everything would be better for u n ur phone trust me

I've been real reluctant to do that for some reason...

BING app stopped from working
Hello Sean D,
I have encountered the same problem with the Bing app running on my at&t TILT. Have you gotten any more feedback, how to correct this problem? Like I mentioned, I'm running a TILT w/WM v6.1 and I'm really not in any mood to go thru the 'possible' upgrade to v6.5. I'm not a graet fan of bing, but the mobile app was perfect for getting info when quickly needed. I will not run the browser version.
Regards,
Rick H.