Windows Mobile on a Blackberry? - General Topics

Is it possible to flash a Blackberry and change its crappy OS for a nice Windows Mobile ROM? I mean, the Blackberry Bold is a great piece of hardware and it could be a great device if it would be possible to run Windows Mobile on it.
Any brilliant ROM cooker from XDA tried this already or thinking about trying it?
Thank you.

No, it's about impossible to do that. If WinMo were open source, maybe, but it's so complicated and device specific that you would have to make the bootloader and many other complex and low level portions of the OS from scratch. I've never ever heard of anyone porting Windows Mobile to an existing device that didn't come with it. Sorry, but it looks like you're stuck with Blackberry's OS.

And what about Android, or Maemo? There was a rumor about Android for BB...

hgrimberg said:
And what about Android, or Maemo? There was a rumor about Android for BB...
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Hypothetically it would be possible, but you'd need a large enough demand for the devs to get involved. First, they'd need to reverse engineer the device as to know what internal hardware it uses and if that can be compatible with Android/Maemo. Then, they'd need to modify the kernel to support the device. All the while, they'd need a Linux bootloader, like HaRET for Windows Mobile, so they could test and make adjustments accordingly.

Thank you Dave. Hard to believe nobody did it already...
And by the way, would you prefer a Nokia N900 with Maemo over a Tilt 2 with WinMo 6.5?
Maybe Maemo is more stable...

hgrimberg said:
Thank you Dave. Hard to believe nobody did it already...
And by the way, would you prefer a Nokia N900 with Maemo over a Tilt 2 with WinMo 6.5?
Maybe Maemo is more stable...
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While Maemo looks very promising, and I'd love to one day get my hands on something comprable (maybe N900, or even xpPhone), I'm a pretty hardcore Windows Mobile fan. Plus, XDA-Developers is great, so I'd probably pick the Tilt2 simply because I like hacking these devices to their very limits, an area where Windows Mobile never fails me. However, I'd say that a person's smartphone preferences are extremely personal, so what may work for me may be disappointing to others. If you can play around with either in a store, I'd highly recommend doing so before purchasing either device.

After having 2 phones with Windows Mobile, I ended up with the conclusion that WM is very unstable, very slow and it crashes too much. Sometimes you don't get a call simply because the system crashed without you noticing. Maybe the processor has to be like 1000 MHZ+ to handle this very heavy OS.
I would suggest you to wait for the Omnia Pro with the sliding keyboard that comes with a 800 mhz processor instead of Tilt 2 with a 528 mhz which is a bit old now.
Maemo seems like a more stable OS and it can also handle VOIP. The only 2 OS that have a native skype client are the WM phones and the Nokia N series like the N900 with Maemo.

hgrimberg said:
The only 2 OS that have a native skype client are the WM phones and the Nokia N series like the N900 with Maemo.
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... and the iPhone....

Menneisyys said:
... and the iPhone....
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No, the iphone has a native skype client that only works over wifi, not over 3G, so its worthless. You can use skype over 3G only if you use Fring.

hgrimberg said:
No, the iphone has a native skype client that only works over wifi, not over 3G, so its worthless. You can use skype over 3G only if you use Fring.
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It's working just great with 3G Unrestrictor. I always conduct a lot of Skype calls over 3G.
All you need is jailbreak your phone and purchase 3G Unrestrictor.

Menneisyys said:
It's working just great with 3G Unrestrictor. I always conduct a lot of Skype calls over 3G.
All you need is jailbreak your phone and purchase 3G Unrestrictor.
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Is there a way to do the same with a Blackberry Bold and make skype possible over 3G as a VOIP call?

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Install WM6 on Android Phone

Hi all
just an interesting question:
Is it possible to install WM6 on this Android Mobile:
http://generalmobile.com/index.asp?action=Android_Phones/DSTL1_features
Result would be a nice WM Dual Sim Mobile which does not exist on the market (as far as I know). I checked the CPU Marvel PXA 310 supports WM.
So is it possible?
Thanks
Good heavens that is one amazing Android phone! Unbelievable I've never heard of it. Anyway, I doubt you could put WinMo on it. Don't understand why you'd even want that...
hehe... yes it is indeed.
well I just need (want) WM due to syncing Outlook and I want dual sim. That was the idea.
However it seems that it would stay a dream....

Windows Mobile on SuperSonic Port?

Since the hardware is probably almost exactly the same as the HD2, do you think theres gonna be a possible port of Windows mobile 6.5 to the Supersonic?
If what you said above is true... why don't you just buy a HD2?
Leddy said:
If what you said above is true... why don't you just buy a HD2?
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Supersonic = Sprint CDMA
HD2 = T-Mobile GSM
No, I would be extremely surprised if Windows Mobile was ported to any device that didn't natively run it. While the hardware may be similar, it isn't identical, which is a problem. The way Windows Mobile's kernel works requires it to be specifically created for a specific device, with full hardware support of said device. Unfortunately, most of the hardware being the same just doesn't cut it; you need full hardware support and drivers. In addition, to boot and use Windows Mobile, you would either need to create a new bootloader or heavily modify the HD2's existing bootloader to work on the SuperSonic, both of which are extremely unlikely.
Believe me when I say the process of "porting" Windows Mobile to an Android device is a hell of a lot harder than porting Android to a Windows Mobile device. I've never heard of a device that had Windows Mobile ported to it and didn't natively run Windows Mobile when it was sold. I wouldn't hold my breath on a Windows mobile port.
I would like to think the supersonic might aid the andriod to HD2 port though
amarko5 said:
I would like to think the supersonic might aid the andriod to HD2 port though
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Yes, can anyone speak to that? Will it make the transition a lot quicker and smoother?
If it uses any identical hardware, then yes definitely. But otherwise, the devices might be entirely different.
I seen sprint premium account holders got a message saying look out for an announcement of a groundbreaking new device tomorrow. Supersonic?
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/2010/03/23/htc-supersonic-to-be-announced-on-march-24.html

switch symbian os to windows os

hey guys
i am new to the fourm and i want to ask about a strange thing
i have htc hd2 runing windows mobile
then i bought a samsung hd phone runing symbian
and i want to erase the symbian and install any windows mobile version
can any one help me about that
i can pay for this
thank you all for you time
Not possible
archi_mahmoud said:
hey guys
i am new to the fourm and i want to ask about a strange thing
i have htc hd2 runing windows mobile
then i bought a samsung hd phone runing symbian
and i want to erase the symbian and install any windows mobile version
can any one help me about that
i can pay for this
thank you all for you time
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officially impossible.
non-officially: talk to the ROM chefs to come up with a decent cooked ROM
OmniaHD? Way to downgrade.
Symbian S60 is god-awful, especially S60V5.. what were they thinking? It's so locked down. Give me my WinMo and cooked rom flexibility any day of the week!
Actually, there was an insider ROM for WM7 which was used by Microsoft for showoff reasons.
But it is prolly gonna be like Cobalt for the Tungsten T3 - it will never leak out...
IIRC, the phone used by microsoft was different to the Omnia I8910HD. It did however look very similar, but the case was different at least. (That doesn't mean it wasn't one, but I doubt it, and expect it to simply be a ad hoc demo device, apposed to a ROM that will never be released).
On a side note, I do agree, S60 is somewhat crap, I can't stand the full screen QWERTY keyboard, and is very locked down. It can be hacked to run some apps from the OVI store etc though, like OVI maps (about the only good thing). But then again, it does shoot good quality video.

N900 or HD2?

Hi all...
Can anyone offer suggestions here?
I have an N900 (with 48GB of memory)... I used to own an HD2 but sold it as it had a dead pixel and that kind of thing bugs me.
I am in the situation where I can swap my N900 for a nice new HD2.
What to do? What will be better long term, Win7Phone ROMs coming to HD2? MeeGo to N900?
I love the browsing abilities of the N900, but lack of notifications and apps designed for the native screen size.
I love the HUGE screen on the HD2, like the slim design, but it lacks the built in memory, so would need to buy a 32GB microSD when it comes out. Is there a Spotify client?
Looking to do the deal tomorrow so your thoughts would be appreciated.
Paul.
you can use myspot as a spotify client on the HD2 and is so so so so much faster with it's 1GHz processor.
Zac.Santer said:
you can use myspot as a spotify client on the HD2 and is so so so so much faster with it's 1GHz processor.
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OK sounds good... I'm guessing it wouldn't be as "pretty" as the official Android and iPhone apps?
And is it free?
Of course Leo!!
WM OS above any Nokia OS
how about a desire?...with same/better specs than hd2,more friendly OS and android 2.2 coming (which is by the way 2-5 times faster than the current version) i personally think those two don't stand a chance...
and of course nokia sucks...imo
edit: oh sorry i missed the sentence when you said that only those two are on table....i personally don't prefer nokia at all,especially not over htc...especially the one with that caliber
HD2 if only for the capacitive screen.
Stick with HTC and gain all the valued info of XDA
Flip a coin
Heads = HD2
tails = HD2
easy
nosh10 said:
Flip a coin
Heads = HD2
tails = HD2
easy
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lol just buy an hd2 if you have the money.
Stuck with the N900.
I couldn't sacrifice the drop in storage as I carry all my music on my device, along with movies and audiobooks with space to spare.
TheMathMan said:
Stuck with the N900.
I couldn't sacrifice the drop in storage as I carry all my music on my device, along with movies and audiobooks with space to spare.
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your choice
tell us if it's good
TheMathMan said:
Stuck with the N900.
I couldn't sacrifice the drop in storage as I carry all my music on my device, along with movies and audiobooks with space to spare.
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my heart broke a little
marduk79 said:
my heart broke a little
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I'm sorry marduk.
But how can I play all my music and videos without compromise on the move with an HD2?
N900 if u want/expect for MeeGo. N900 wins too in Games, don´t in number but in potential. What is means? Now with PR 1.2, n900 uses the QT 4.6, the same as the new Symbian ^3. So, for developers its easy port games that make in Symbian to Maemo. For now it´s promise 10 games, so far but when N8 comes may be this number goes high. Android comes (by community) to N900, as well its possible (better at the moment than HTC HD2).
HTC HD2, if u want a big and capacitive screen and the possibility to put a lot of ROMs on it, to turns your experience more personal. But WinMO doesn´t provide nothing to use this hardware... And MS, does **** with WinMO 7 so, for me it´s a very bad business.
If u need help with Maemo i´m here, u are don´t alone.
Thanks viperbruno.
I think I'll be a lot more happy when they actually relaunch the OVI store for the N900 with Angry Birds and Zen Bound etc... This was meant to happen yesterday but still waiting!!
I guess I just miss the gorgeous display and the joy of watching videos and reading texts on the HD2. I wish they made 32+GB microSD cards.
OK... back on the idea of changing my N900 to an HD2 / Nexus One. That is my current option.
What are your thoughts on if / when Windows Phone 7 or Android coming to the HD2 versus MeeGo coming to the N900?
TheMathMan said:
OK... back on the idea of changing my N900 to an HD2 / Nexus One. That is my current option.
What are your thoughts on if / when Windows Phone 7 or Android coming to the HD2 versus MeeGo coming to the N900?
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Official what coming:
HTC HD2 - nothing
Nokia n900 - Meego as well (September the final version, beta at July) but without any support from Nokia. Better that nothing.
Unofficial:
HTC HD2 - XDA could make WinMO 7 for with but don't expect a lot from it, it's just my opinion...
Nokia N900 - Could be everything and nothing at the same time, but I have see on Internet that Nokia will turn off Symbian from nseries, and put Meego on it, so I think that is possible to expect a lot from it. To know: Nokia N8 is the last model (from nseries) with Symbian.
My suggestion: Wait a little. HTC will realise new "Pro" models - rumor: a HTC HD2 pro edition - Nokia haves something to say in Augustus (with Symbian ^3 and QT 4.6, it turns easy to port apps to Maemo)...

[Q] Switch between Android, Win Phone 7, and WinMo 6.5 on the same device?

hi guys,
I'd like to know if it possible because I've been using my Xperia x1 for about a year and i think it's time for a change but when I checked all the available phones I got confused a little.
it seems like Windows phone 7 looks great but in a review i saw somewhere it says that it lacks some important features such as:
No Bluetooth file transfers
No USB mass storage mode
No multitasking
No copy/paste
No Flash or Silverlight support in the web browser
No DivX/XviD video support
No internet tethering support
Swapping memory card requires hard reset; cards not readable by computer
and Android has great features but IMO I think WinMo gives more freedom in the terms of using or hacking
and as a WinMo 6.5 user I find it a great OS with all the features needed and if there some feature I want that is not already offered it's available here on XDA-Dev either as a .cab or cooked in a ROM
So the Main Question: if I buy a Sonyericsson (X10 maybe) or a HTC with a 1 GHz Processor will I be able to install any OS of them as a ROM???
Thanx in advance.
The only device capable of running WP7 is the hTC Leo and it has actually working Android and some working on Ubuntu and Maemo as well.
not any other device will be capable to do so
Thanx for reply
So the HD2/Leo is able to handle all 3 OSs
but i have more questions please
how is the HD2 up to date regarding the specs? like the RAM, ROM, and processor
can there be 2 OSs in the same time and to be able to switch between them?
and does android 2.2 froyo work 100% i mean with everything working??
thanx again
ahmedsalem89 said:
it seems like Windows phone 7 looks great
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I'm intreagued, what about the duplo phone looks great to you?
The basic HD2 specs are up to date on paper (RAM, ROM, processor) and even beat some newer phones but dig deep and you'll see the latest version of the chips are better. Android 2.2 is running perfectly but WP7 is still work in progress.
It's more than a year old but still the best phone EVER.
samizad said:
The basic HD2 specs are up to date on paper (RAM, ROM, processor) and even beat some newer phones but dig deep and you'll see the latest version of the chips are better. Android 2.2 is running perfectly but WP7 is still work in progress.
It's more than a year old but still the best phone EVER.
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Well, it's clear now that the HD2 is one of the best phones out there as it's capable of handling nearly the 3 OSs, Thanx for ur help
Any chance for Desire to use WP7 too?
I would be great if it is possible.
I wanna try WP7 too.

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