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So, what do you think?
(I hope this is not considered a rant)
We're actually just waiting on the Buzz/Raptor news. We'll all kno the answer soon enough I guess.
I agree, if the news is coming from Buzz, I have no doubt whether the ROM exists or not.
well if it's not going to come available, i'm not going to sit and cry about it. I'm still very happy with it as it is :-D
I love my Magician !
well if it's not going to come available, i'm not going to sit and cry about it. I'm still very happy with it as it is :-D
I love my Magician !
tjempeng said:
well if it's not going to come available, i'm not going to sit and cry about it. I'm still very happy with it as it is :-D
I love my Magician !
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Me too.
What will change with wm2005? There are tons of wm2003 applications for our devices to keep us satisfied for long long time. I am not saying that I am not interested in getting a working rom for magician, but if this doesn't happen in the right way (official upgrade) we will have many problems and no support at all. So apart from satisfying our curiosity what is our gain?
I must admit that I am rather curious mind, so I'll probably be one of the first to try to put the wm2005 rom in my magician, but I am not expecting much and I am sure after some day coping with the problems I and many others would like to switch back to the good old wm2003.
Anyway I wish good luck to Buzz and all the other guys invloved in this "adventurous" project.
If there weren't any improvements Microsoft wouldn't have released it in the first place. It's a bit like asking what's the difference between Win98 and Win XP. Just when it came out everyone was like "Nah ... I'll stick to Win98" etc. When people start using it on a daily basis they wouldn't do without.
Having said that, I'm looking forward to:
1) Permament Storage
2) Better synchronisation with Outlook (inc. Contact Pictures)
3) Improved one-hand operation
4) Improved PIM
and the list goes on and on.
I sure can live with WM2003SE, but a stable WM5 is definitely my preferred option.
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If there weren't any improvements Microsoft wouldn't have released it in the first place. It's a bit like asking what's the difference between Win98 and Win XP. Just when it came out everyone was like "Nah ... I'll stick to Win98" etc. When people start using it on a daily basis they wouldn't do without.
Having said that, I'm looking forward to:
1) Permament Storage
2) Better synchronisation with Outlook (inc. Contact Pictures)
3) Improved one-hand operation
4) Improved PIM
and the list goes on and on.
I sure can live with WM2003SE, but a stable WM5 is definitely my preferred option.
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I am not talking about an official version but for a leaked one. The official of course should be better and have more benefits! That's undoubtable!
And if you are wondering for the difference about win98 and XP, try installing and living with XP on a Pentium 166. Simply you can't because p166 was not designed to be able to handle winXP.
I own a computer shop and people where asking for Windows 98 on a Pentium 4 - 1.4GHz with 256 or 512MB RAM!
Regarding WM5, agreed, I'm only talking about a stable version (whether it's official or not). Mind you, the WM5 we're all waiting for IS MEANT to run on the Magician as it was specifically built for it. Otherwise it wouldn't work in the first place.
And according to Microsoft, the Magician meets the WM5 minimum requirements, mainly being an Xscale compatible CPU, 64MB RAM and 64MB ROM.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=726702
Check out the O2 XDA Atom...
1. The O2 XDA Atom will have the same processor (or type) as the HTC Magician.
2. The O2 XDA Atom will have Windows Mobile 5.0 (along with other nice things like a long-awaited FM tuner)
3. HTC could have made a Windows Mobile 5.0 build for the Magician and given it some more life, but new devices is the main reason they didn't. More profit here.
4. You guys will be all over this like a free porn DVD giveaway, and get this ROM ported over to the Magician in total defiance of HTC's abandonment stance.
5. Some of you will buy it anyway.
UPDATE: The Atom is not designed by HTC, so chances of ROM portability to the Magician just got a lot slimmer.
That Atom looks very very nice. I would almost be tempted to bankrupt myself if it weren't for the fact that the price tag is, praise the Lord, far too high for me to even consider it.
'praise the Lord' :?:
Is this thing for real?
http://www.meizu-minione.info/m8_iphone_comparison.php
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphon...g-8gb-first-gets-70-price-increase-285800.php
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/03/05/details-emerge-on-meizu-m8-minione-pricing/
http://www.intoiphone.com/apple-iphone-competitors-killers
I mean..
>500MHz
720x480 x 24bpp screen
integrated storage >8GB
Windows Mobile 6
WCDMA and GSM
and it starts at $195?
is this some kind of fantasy?
It is real, but it is far from $195, closer to $800. According to them it is scheduled to come out in December but you won't see it until next year.
May i remind you that i've never heard of Meizu before, its a newcomer, expect bugs and even shortcuts...
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May i remind you that i've never heard of Meizu before, its a newcomer, expect bugs and even shortcuts...
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Meizu has been making MP3 players ( http://en.meizu.com/ ) for 4 years, but that's true: they hasn't made any Windows CE based device ever, until now.
I supose this Phone has Windows CE 6.0 Core, and own GUI so it can be uncompatible with Windows Mobile 6 stuff (CE 5.2)
They are offering another Iphone clone for 169 Euros in the NL. The CECT Clone. So the pricing could be correct.
This will run probably CE 5.2 so we can take all the goodies we have to this phone and from this phone!
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I supose this Phone has Windows CE 6.0 Core, and own GUI so it can be uncompatible with Windows Mobile 6 stuff (CE 5.2)
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Yes, As I read it doesn't run WM6 but Windows CE 6.0 under a special miniOne GUI so it can't run conventional Pocket PC apps. Unless the miniOne GUI only an app which runs on WM6 but I haven't read about this anywhere, so it isn't likely.
It can run most PPC apps, that's real.
Yeah, multitouch and USB Host / Client
now that's what i call an iPhone killer :O
the functions / ui of the apple phone + the things i love about wm (great community, so much programs, etc.)
I just stopped into a Meizu store today (I live in china) and saw this phone and heard of it for the first time. It looks very cool though. The price is around $350 US and has 8GB and is multi-touch. I think I want one
it definitely looks as the best PMP player and phone together.
if only it could run WM apps, it would rock..
Apps on Meizu
I got my hands on one of these devices and it is pretty slick. There are still lots of bugs in the os, but new versions are still being put out there. It sucks that it does not run WM apps. I have found 2 that work. Coreplayer and TCPMP run well on it, but really are not needed because the integrated player works well.
I am hoping someone will develop a Windows Mobile rom that will run on this device. It would really rock.
i really want this phone. It may not be an HTC phone but Meizu has some big potential.
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I just stopped into a Meizu store today (I live in china) and saw this phone and heard of it for the first time. It looks very cool though. The price is around $350 US and has 8GB and is multi-touch. I think I want one
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M8 only GSM, no 3G?
And still in beta version not public market for sell
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M8 only GSM, no 3G?
And still in beta version not public market for sell
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just ordered on of these phones from best deals online in singapore. £689 SGD or bout £311. not sure if i trust site so i put COD. see what happens.someone will develop a rom for that which make it rock. still only available as beta as stated previously due to licensing probs. don't know how they can sell it but i want one. so much potential
M8
you all should look at www.meizume.com
it rocks or not
have seen this Phone
before i am out
to buy my HTC TP2
in some Onlinestore`s
the Technical Data Rocks,
soo i ll say ,
but think, its a big Problem,
with runing, all the Win CE / WIMO
Software, and on a lot of Threads i
read, that the Bugs almost not
solved from one to another Firmware
they always only put
only new Options in
and didnt Solve the Bugs
USB Host OTG i am not sure that is implemtet,
and TV Out, also too not implementet yet.
will wait and give Meizu
a Chance to come with a good Concept !
Stable and Bugfree Sortware and OS
greetings
sad_but_true
hi there,
i was looking for a new phone and got the at&t Samsung Jack. I understand that it is considered a smartphone and i though that as such, needs specific smartphone software. After searching the web for some applications it occurred to me that smartphone and windows mobile are somewhat the same thing. I am not sure though what the difference is. I know that i can install some software that i used for my kaiser but not all software. what do i have to look for and where is the best place to get my hands on some nice cabs?
thanks,
G
thanks for all the answers...
smartphone= WM STANDARD, no tuchscreen
pocket pc = WM PROFESSIONAL, touchscreen
www.pdadb.net if you need more infos
for what
znial said:
smartphone= WM STANDARD, no tuchscreen
pocket pc = WM PROFESSIONAL, touchscreen
www.pdadb.net if you need more infos
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i understand. what i don't get is, what do i have to look for when it comes to software?! i have a bunch of cab's that worked on my kaiser but don't work on the jack. is that because one is the standard edition and the other one the professional edition? when i look for software, what do i need to look for? wm standard or smartphone apps?
thanks,
G
You have to look out for windows smartphone apps. Actually smartphone is a misnomer as the touch version of win mobile is also called a smartphone. However for software searching PPC means touch version and SMARTPHONE means nontouch version. Actually this happened with me also as I had no idea about the difference of software compatibility in SM and PPC. Now I have known that PPC platform is much wider, versatile with respect tl software availability. I hope this serves your purpose. If you love apps I think you may regret changing over to smartphone from PPC. Some PPC apps do get installed on smartphones but only a very few of them can be used satisfactorily mainly due to navigational problems. However most of the PPC apps donot get installed on smartphones.
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You have to look out for windows smartphone apps. Actually smartphone is a misnomer as the touch version of win mobile is also called a smartphone. However for software searching PPC means touch version and SMARTPHONE means nontouch version. Actually this happened with me also as I had no idea about the difference of software compatibility in SM and PPC. Now I have known that PPC platform is much wider, versatile with respect tl software availability. I hope this serves your purpose. If you love apps I think you may regret changing over to smartphone from PPC. Some PPC apps do get installed on smartphones but only a very few of them can be used satisfactorily mainly due to navigational problems. However most of the PPC apps donot get installed on smartphones.
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thanks for the great info, it makes more sense to me now. i didn't really want to switch from ppc to sm. i was just sick of my kaiser. the touchscreen drove me nuts. i cant stand the way it works. i wish it would be as smooth as the apple. (don't get me wrong, i hate apple).
i looked at a few phones and decided to go without touchscreen. i bought the nokia e71 but wasn't a big fan of the menu and the symbian os. i think it looks more refreshing than the windows os but its too much work to even send out a text message...i probably didn't get to know it good enough though...
however, i don't need too many apps on my smartphone. just emails, calendar and tomtom if possible. i have a hard time finding a cab though for a tomtom version that works...
thanks,
G
p.s. what is a good site to download smartphone apps?
http://www.smartphone-freeware.com/
as well as not having touchscreens, smartphones generally dont need to be as high specced to get hte same speeds. this means they are cheaeper and in my experience tougher to break xD
Is it possible to flash a Blackberry and change its crappy OS for a nice Windows Mobile ROM? I mean, the Blackberry Bold is a great piece of hardware and it could be a great device if it would be possible to run Windows Mobile on it.
Any brilliant ROM cooker from XDA tried this already or thinking about trying it?
Thank you.
No, it's about impossible to do that. If WinMo were open source, maybe, but it's so complicated and device specific that you would have to make the bootloader and many other complex and low level portions of the OS from scratch. I've never ever heard of anyone porting Windows Mobile to an existing device that didn't come with it. Sorry, but it looks like you're stuck with Blackberry's OS.
And what about Android, or Maemo? There was a rumor about Android for BB...
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And what about Android, or Maemo? There was a rumor about Android for BB...
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Hypothetically it would be possible, but you'd need a large enough demand for the devs to get involved. First, they'd need to reverse engineer the device as to know what internal hardware it uses and if that can be compatible with Android/Maemo. Then, they'd need to modify the kernel to support the device. All the while, they'd need a Linux bootloader, like HaRET for Windows Mobile, so they could test and make adjustments accordingly.
Thank you Dave. Hard to believe nobody did it already...
And by the way, would you prefer a Nokia N900 with Maemo over a Tilt 2 with WinMo 6.5?
Maybe Maemo is more stable...
hgrimberg said:
Thank you Dave. Hard to believe nobody did it already...
And by the way, would you prefer a Nokia N900 with Maemo over a Tilt 2 with WinMo 6.5?
Maybe Maemo is more stable...
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While Maemo looks very promising, and I'd love to one day get my hands on something comprable (maybe N900, or even xpPhone), I'm a pretty hardcore Windows Mobile fan. Plus, XDA-Developers is great, so I'd probably pick the Tilt2 simply because I like hacking these devices to their very limits, an area where Windows Mobile never fails me. However, I'd say that a person's smartphone preferences are extremely personal, so what may work for me may be disappointing to others. If you can play around with either in a store, I'd highly recommend doing so before purchasing either device.
After having 2 phones with Windows Mobile, I ended up with the conclusion that WM is very unstable, very slow and it crashes too much. Sometimes you don't get a call simply because the system crashed without you noticing. Maybe the processor has to be like 1000 MHZ+ to handle this very heavy OS.
I would suggest you to wait for the Omnia Pro with the sliding keyboard that comes with a 800 mhz processor instead of Tilt 2 with a 528 mhz which is a bit old now.
Maemo seems like a more stable OS and it can also handle VOIP. The only 2 OS that have a native skype client are the WM phones and the Nokia N series like the N900 with Maemo.
hgrimberg said:
The only 2 OS that have a native skype client are the WM phones and the Nokia N series like the N900 with Maemo.
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... and the iPhone....
Menneisyys said:
... and the iPhone....
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No, the iphone has a native skype client that only works over wifi, not over 3G, so its worthless. You can use skype over 3G only if you use Fring.
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No, the iphone has a native skype client that only works over wifi, not over 3G, so its worthless. You can use skype over 3G only if you use Fring.
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It's working just great with 3G Unrestrictor. I always conduct a lot of Skype calls over 3G.
All you need is jailbreak your phone and purchase 3G Unrestrictor.
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It's working just great with 3G Unrestrictor. I always conduct a lot of Skype calls over 3G.
All you need is jailbreak your phone and purchase 3G Unrestrictor.
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Is there a way to do the same with a Blackberry Bold and make skype possible over 3G as a VOIP call?
hey guys
i am new to the fourm and i want to ask about a strange thing
i have htc hd2 runing windows mobile
then i bought a samsung hd phone runing symbian
and i want to erase the symbian and install any windows mobile version
can any one help me about that
i can pay for this
thank you all for you time
Not possible
archi_mahmoud said:
hey guys
i am new to the fourm and i want to ask about a strange thing
i have htc hd2 runing windows mobile
then i bought a samsung hd phone runing symbian
and i want to erase the symbian and install any windows mobile version
can any one help me about that
i can pay for this
thank you all for you time
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officially impossible.
non-officially: talk to the ROM chefs to come up with a decent cooked ROM
OmniaHD? Way to downgrade.
Symbian S60 is god-awful, especially S60V5.. what were they thinking? It's so locked down. Give me my WinMo and cooked rom flexibility any day of the week!
Actually, there was an insider ROM for WM7 which was used by Microsoft for showoff reasons.
But it is prolly gonna be like Cobalt for the Tungsten T3 - it will never leak out...
IIRC, the phone used by microsoft was different to the Omnia I8910HD. It did however look very similar, but the case was different at least. (That doesn't mean it wasn't one, but I doubt it, and expect it to simply be a ad hoc demo device, apposed to a ROM that will never be released).
On a side note, I do agree, S60 is somewhat crap, I can't stand the full screen QWERTY keyboard, and is very locked down. It can be hacked to run some apps from the OVI store etc though, like OVI maps (about the only good thing). But then again, it does shoot good quality video.