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Issues with Alpha Wm6 Rom

hilo,
Just created a new thread for this as its issues are pilling up the other one. i think that thread should be clean and should have only and only contain info about progress on the wm6 rom...
Mods if unnecessary please delete...
Tejas

I would not call it a bug but one of the disadvantages of the ROM is that, similar to these ones which come to Qtek and i-mate, it does not recognise the network settings out of the box but you have to fiddle with them manually. When I use Orange ROMs (and it does not matter if the ROM comes from the UK or Switzerland) everything works with flying colours, despite I do not use any Orange network. Just I have to install Opera Mobile (I hate pocket IE) and voila! Everything works!

Channels don't work.

in india AFAIK channels just provide the cell id i.e the area which i m in... not imp though... no use of channels

ok phil.
if u remove windows update, at least supply it as a cab in the extras folder.
channels don't work.
long pressed side button does not work! it used to start voice note record for the sda and i'd like that to work.
mms.
better camera software. btw htc camera makes the phone SLOW..... not a good one. need an alternate
enable profile switching to silent when long pressing '#' key
default folder for saving pictures on storage card is not my documents\my pictures any more but a lame dcim folder. that would be nice to be changed.
also, sometimes when answering a call, the keyboard stays locked, the call is still on, but the home screen is active and not the call screen.
joystick seems much better but sometimes it doesn't want to work as it should. maybe another driver; if not, this one is good
we need wpa2 for wifi enabled.
also add in the extras folder:
moblue
tcpmp with extra codecs
htc audio manager could be good
if u need the cabs for moblue and htc audio, i have them
there is an newer version of sim manager. v6.10. has a couple of new things (got it if u need it)
and maybe add a good version of opera. not the java one.
we also need a good midlet manager
also a good instant messaging program. maybe a multi client one like oz mobile im, or like im+

mmmhhh after read all this bugs, i better wait a while to update my phone, i find a good idea to write here all the problems with the actually ROM.

Good AD2P drivers
Hi,
Is it possible to have good ad2p drivers with the next rom?

Tomtom 6
I have never been able to run tomtom 6 before the update.
Is it possible now with update? and also which is best version to install?
Kindest regards

I have Push mail configured and GPRS seems to be buggy. once or twice a day GPRS seems to stop working. My Activesync fails with (Can not connect to network or waiting for the network to be available), and in that mode even IE can not connect to any site. I switch off and on the phone function only, GPRS becomes available again.

boneym said:
I have Push mail configured and GPRS seems to be buggy. once or twice a day GPRS seems to stop working. My Activesync fails with (Can not connect to network or waiting for the network to be available), and in that mode even IE can not connect to any site. I switch off and on the phone function only, GPRS becomes available again.
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Actually I would split your post in two separate ones.
1. the instability of WM6 Alpha - obvious thing, and it should be fixed
2. but I also see something else. I see from many posts that one application which sets all the settings with one click is quite urgently needed. I know that something like that exists for Swiss networks http://www.mysmartphone.ch/Freeware/kommunikation/16920.aspx and for the Norwegian ones http://www.smartmobil.no/Article617.phtml but I think that everybody would agree that such an universal solution would be something good. Unfortunately, I do not know anything about programming but I can imagine this kind of program and a separate database. The database would be filled by volunteers - I can, for example, provide all the settings of Polish operators, someone else British, French, etc. It would be good esp. for people who travel a lot.

unlocksmith said:
I have never been able to run tomtom 6 before the update.
Is it possible now with update? and also which is best version to install?
Kindest regards
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TomTom 6 is made for Pocket PCs. It requires a touch screen to work, so you won´t be able to control it. I have had it running on my 8310 but it´s just silly to even have it installed. Go for 5.2 if you can find it.

I have problems syncing my contacts if i have more than 305 contacts.
The ActiveSync (or WMDC) hangs saying "attention required". Though, i can make 305+ contacts on the WM6 and sync them back to Outlook! But backwards i get 305 contact limit. Vey, very strange!
With previous ROM everything was ok.
I tried syncing with different PCs, tried unistalling ActiveSync and WMDC - no use. Deleting pim.vol doesn't help too.
ActiveSync on WM6 gives me 0x8503001c error.

Thanks for your help. I got my old one to work. I really like the colours in tomtom 6 tho.
Also on my phone i have a problem(s) with tomtom 5, I cant type in the post code B8 followed by anything like B8 3NU. Also I can't use certain Points Of Interest such as hospitals or cash dispensers. These work fine on my Wizard but I wana be able to do it all with TORNADO!

The software of dual sim selector don't works with that new rom (adapter of 10ª generation).
Well, I don't know if it works; the soft does not appear by any side.
I proved several solutions, but no it has worked to me.
Somebody can help me?
Thanks.

tejasphatak please rename the topic to "WM6 Torando bugs/issues" , so we can generally post bugs/issues regarding all WM6 tornado roms
Bugs:
1. The locklevel change to 1 randomly..
2. Sometimes the phone freeze when unloking kepyad.
It happened two times.
Issues:
1. When playing audio the CPU load is ~ 25-30% (@180 Mhz). It is normal ? (can someone with WM5 test?)
If using EQ and other effects the CPU load increase.
A taskmanager with cpu load info can be found here (it's for PPC but works also ,somehow, on smartphones)
More CPU load = more power = less battery
2. The system lags while writing to storage card (big cards, > 1gb). This issue is present on WM5 Tornado roms too (except iphone rom wich seems to deal better with sd).
Need a beter SD driver .
Same when copying via ActiveSync (has anyone tried usbfn driver from HTC VOX?)
3. when TCPMP is playing audio it keeps the backlight alive
Using andot's PEE V6.

bsider said:
I have problems syncing my contacts if i have more than 305 contacts.
The ActiveSync (or WMDC) hangs saying "attention required". Though, i can make 305+ contacts on the WM6 and sync them back to Outlook! But backwards i get 305 contact limit. Vey, very strange!
With previous ROM everything was ok.
I tried syncing with different PCs, tried unistalling ActiveSync and WMDC - no use. Deleting pim.vol doesn't help too.
ActiveSync on WM6 gives me 0x8503001c error.
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Hello,
I've got a similar problem to this. It used to work fine until last week. I can't remember changing anything in my Hard/software setup but now it just hangs and only some of the contacts sync.
I've searched in the forum but can't seem to find any other reference to this problem. If anyone knows a solution (or any discussion of it) please let me know. Basic device info below:
SPV m3100 (HTC TyTN) running WM6
Windows Vista Home Basic
Windows Mobile Device Center
Thanks.

T-Mobile MDA problems

T-Mobile branded MDA. Reflashed to a Windows Mobile 6 version by "mfrazzz"
1. Battery life. TERRIBLE. I think it might be the phone. Got two other batteries. One lasts about as long as the original one I had and the other last just a little longer. Have yet to try a 100% new battery yet. In about 5 hours off the chrager with maybe a phone call and a few texts, it will drop to about 70%. Any ideas?
2. My MMS does not work. I know its from when I switched it over to WinMo6 and all the "fields" are empty for the settings. Customer Care wouldn't help me so does anyone on here have the required information I need to put it?
3. My LAN does not work. Possibly another thing from doing the WinMo6 deal. When I go to the Comm Manager and click LAN, the little windows loading icon comes up and goes off with the LAN not turning on.

in regard to the MMS not working, run the cab i attached. after that i reccomend going into the MMS settings/servers and then selecting the T-Mobile MMS connection, go in there (you'll see server name and such) and go to the bottom and change "Connect Via" from T-Mobile MMS to T-Mobile Data. that works well for me. keep that cab handy for future use as well.

Dain said:
T-Mobile branded MDA. Reflashed to a Windows Mobile 6 version by "mfrazzz"
3. My LAN does not work. Possibly another thing from doing the WinMo6 deal. When I go to the Comm Manager and click LAN, the little windows loading icon comes up and goes off with the LAN not turning on.
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which version of mfrazzz's xda series are you using? i believe the wireless issue was fixed with later versions.
Dain said:
1. Battery life. TERRIBLE. I think it might be the phone. Got two other batteries. One lasts about as long as the original one I had and the other last just a little longer. Have yet to try a 100% new battery yet. In about 5 hours off the chrager with maybe a phone call and a few texts, it will drop to about 70%. Any ideas?
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i charge mine everyday... that was the same with wm5, but i can get almost two days of some phone and lots of email if i have to (gets down to about 10%). i dont think ive seen any pocketpcs that can make it much past two days with normal use... but it should not drop quite that fast -> one thing to try is go down to the 2.19 radio and look around for the power saving cabs (for some network connections and memory card) that are also built in to the later roms. both together make a big difference. also put your screen brightness to the lower setting, thats what really sucks the power.
if you like the xda roms, try going to xda 5. or try any of the other popular roms, nothin's pandora, antc wiz 2.0, theloon's kitchen for a custom, boring 1622, any TNT rom, whiterat's WRCX, etc... keep trying em out

i advise you to flash to an official rom first to get rid of any corrupt registries.once you do that....flash your favorite rom and after flashing HARD RESET....i do this to be on the safe side....

shortyboy said:
i advise you to flash to an official rom first to get rid of any corrupt registries.once you do that....flash your favorite rom and after flashing HARD RESET....i do this to be on the safe side....
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flash to an official rom cannot get rid of any corrupt registries in cooked ROM

Dain said:
T-Mobile branded MDA. Reflashed to a Windows Mobile 6 version by "mfrazzz"
1. Battery life. TERRIBLE. I think it might be the phone. Got two other batteries. One lasts about as long as the original one I had and the other last just a little longer. Have yet to try a 100% new battery yet. In about 5 hours off the chrager with maybe a phone call and a few texts, it will drop to about 70%. Any ideas?
2. My MMS does not work. I know its from when I switched it over to WinMo6 and all the "fields" are empty for the settings. Customer Care wouldn't help me so does anyone on here have the required information I need to put it?
3. My LAN does not work. Possibly another thing from doing the WinMo6 deal. When I go to the Comm Manager and click LAN, the little windows loading icon comes up and goes off with the LAN not turning on.
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you may want to do a search for "clean extended rom". when u flash back to an official rom, they generally have an extended rom...upgrading to a cooked rom usually doesn't upgrade the extended rom...has been known to sometimes cause battery drain issues.

xsbeats said:
extended rom...has been known to sometimes cause battery drain issues.
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forgot about that...
if you want to do the ext rom, 2.19 radio, and ipl/spl 3.08 (might as well, its like a computer's bios) here is all three at once
2.19.11_3.08_WM6Splash_BlankExt.rar
update with this last after going back to tmo and flashing to any custom wm6 rom. after flashing with the wm6, don't worry about the setup, just go straight to the all in one, then do setup after.

Whew, should have know I'd get replies that look like hyroglyphics...LOL! I will have to do some reading to fully understand everything you guys are talking about haha. dummy version of all that possibly?
On the battery life. My screen brightness is in the middle. My other MDA would last over a full day. Heck, I left it off the charger one night without one message or call and it dropped 1%. Now, I can do that and within 2 hours it will drop like 8%

Dain said:
Whew, should have know I'd get replies that look like hyroglyphics...LOL! I will have to do some reading to fully understand everything you guys are talking about haha. dummy version of all that possibly?
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quickie version:
download the link i posted above this message and flash it...
and then read this thread and install the cabs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295191

Thanks for the dummy version
anyone care to dummy version what "radio" and "extended version" mean? Again, sorry for being a n00b!

Dain said:
Thanks for the dummy version
anyone care to dummy version what "radio" and "extended version" mean? Again, sorry for being a n00b!
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hey we all learned it at some point
radio is the raw code that drives the "radio" in your Wizard. it tells it how to search for a signal, what to lock on to, how to switch between voice and data, all the code that is need for the basic phone part of the PDA to work.
the extended rom is usually used by carriers (att, tmo, etc...) to install their custom software for the branded device, i.e. wizard becomes mda or 8125. after first starting the phone, a file called autorun.exe starts loading extra programs that are added on to the base operating system. it also starts loading the CAB files from the extended ROM, 10MB worth in the case of the wizard. these are things like MyFaves, the connection settings for data on the TMO or ATT networks, the setup my email link, etc...
hope that helps...

Not to take away from anyone else's work, but I flashed the T-Mobile Boring ROM, and haven't had a hitch, once I got all the internet setting right. I also am running the 2.71 GSM, and I can honestly say my mda runs better now than it did when it was new. Battery life improved, too. I am also a noob, and tried a couple others before I flashed this one...this worked best for me, since I didn't want to do all the tweaking (yet ) that more advanced users on this board know to do automatically.

ndn715 said:
hey we all learned it at some point
radio is the raw code that drives the "radio" in your Wizard. it tells it how to search for a signal, what to lock on to, how to switch between voice and data, all the code that is need for the basic phone part of the PDA to work.
the extended rom is usually used by carriers (att, tmo, etc...) to install their custom software for the branded device, i.e. wizard becomes mda or 8125. after first starting the phone, a file called autorun.exe starts loading extra programs that are added on to the base operating system. it also starts loading the CAB files from the extended ROM, 10MB worth in the case of the wizard. these are things like MyFaves, the connection settings for data on the TMO or ATT networks, the setup my email link, etc...
hope that helps...
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THANKS! Good to know the n00bs don't get flamed too bad here
Ok my IPL/SPL right now on my G3 device is 2.26. If I want the 3.08 can I go right to it or do I need to go down to the 1.05? To go from the XM6r3 to XM6r5 what do I need to do? Should I just be able to go straight to that? It already CID unlocked and stuff for the current version I am on. Just confused on how to go from what I have now to the new one.
Thanks in advance!

Please Help
Ughh. Just went to XM6r5 and I have the same exact problems.....
Battery life still terrible. When I was done reflashing I was at 97% and after going through the settings without one phone call or text its already at 87%
The WLAN is still not working. Go to the Comm. Manager, click on WLAN, the windows loading icon comes up like its going to turn on, the windows loading icon goes off and the WLAN never turns on.
MMS messaging still says "error syncronizing"
Still on the 2.26 ROM

BUMP. Battery went down 6% in 10 minutes.... Is there a way I can just get back to WM5?

Oops, double post.

Mr. Zach said:
in regard to the MMS not working, run the cab i attached. after that i reccomend going into the MMS settings/servers and then selecting the T-Mobile MMS connection, go in there (you'll see server name and such) and go to the bottom and change "Connect Via" from T-Mobile MMS to T-Mobile Data. that works well for me. keep that cab handy for future use as well.
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Well here is my problem. Under "Connect Via" I have these choices only:
-My Work Network
-My ISP
-Work
-Secure WAP Network
-The WAP Network
-The Internet
ndn715 said:
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forgot about that...
if you want to do the ext rom, 2.19 radio, and ipl/spl 3.08 (might as well, its like a computer's bios) here is all three at once
2.19.11_3.08_WM6Splash_BlankExt.rar
update with this last after going back to tmo and flashing to any custom wm6 rom. after flashing with the wm6, don't worry about the setup, just go straight to the all in one, then do setup after.
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Well I went to the XM6r5 instead of the release 3 I was on, just loaded what you posted up and now on a 3.08. Still having the same problems...

Thanks Zack
Mr. Zach said:
in regard to the MMS not working, run the cab i attached. after that i reccomend going into the MMS settings/servers and then selecting the T-Mobile MMS connection, go in there (you'll see server name and such) and go to the bottom and change "Connect Via" from T-Mobile MMS to T-Mobile Data. that works well for me. keep that cab handy for future use as well.
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Thank you
For the quick fix I don't use MMS that much but I know that I can with your help.

[Issues] Open Touch v4.0 | WM 6.1 | T-Mobile Wing!

Folks,
I'm starting this new thread since the release one is getting way too big to manager.
Please start posting issues related to my rom here, make sure they are actual issues and not user error.
Regards,

Windows Live / Hotmail Problems
Does anyone else have problems getting Windows Live to sync your hotmail? I finally got it working with the push support, but it does not allow me to download attachments. Anytime I try to download an attachment it says failed to sync. I've tried the 3 latest versions available from this board and none of them seem to work. I've also tried these combinations with both versions of biggy 4.0 to no avail. With open touch 3.0 (Windows live biggie) the Windows Live service was working perfectly. I can't imagine that having windows live built into the Rom was what made the difference. Any one have any ideas? If this is simply an unfixable bug do you know if the gmail imap works like a push client? I tried to configure gmail, but it wouldn't allow anything quicker than a check every 5 mins.
Once again thanks ttran for your hard work in creating this great rom. Without it I'd probably be an iSheep by now.
thanks in advance

Not sure if this is an operator error or the rom error but I installed the Black Dialer from this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1649317&postcount=1
I followed the instructions and did a soft reset, after that the Micro v4.1 run really sloooow. I have to perform a hard reset and reinstall all the other cabs.
So is it because I installed the wrong dialer cab or is it something wrong with the Micro v4.1? Whatever reason is I hope this is a good info for other ppl, too.
Other than that the Micro v4.1 run amazing fast and I do miss the black dial from the Lite Black version

when i added the battery to my toolbar and decided to take it off, the taskmanager that was up there disappeared, i cant get it back

djkdawg said:
when i added the battery to my toolbar and decided to take it off, the taskmanager that was up there disappeared, i cant get it back
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I was all ready to get mad....break out the flamethowers and what not, but after testing this is CONFIRMED. I added percent and mem feedback to the screen using QM, removed them and could not reenable htc task mgr. I want to say there used to be an option in the HTC x-button settings to show on today screen. That option is not there. Currently searching for the reg key.... will update post

high pitch noise comming from the speaker after flashing the rom

pixelwix said:
high pitch noise comming from the speaker after flashing the rom
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Using battery status?? I get the noise while using the cpu scaler UNDERclocking below 149. If it annoys you that much raise your min to 149. Otherwise, just try setting different processor speeds...dont over do it, see if that doesnt help.

ttran...I finally resolved my problem with Pocket Nester! Turns out it was user error... I had the files on my storage card in My Documents instead of having them at the root level. I noticed that it was seeing some of the folders on the storage card but none of the ones in My Documents. I moved them to the root of the storage card and it works!

since there is talk about the dialer i thought i would ask... in OT Biggy 3.0 the dialer had buttons that were quite large.
in this version the dialer is alot better, because it has the contacts built right into it at the top. however there is alot of space between the buttons, making them too small for my fingers.
is there a skin that just makes the dialer buttons bigger without downgrading back to the 3.0 version?
great work ttran, i am running 4.0 biggy w/ cube... just fyi and no issues thus far (only been testing for 2 days though)

Radio issue?
I'm not sure if this is a radio issue or something else, but here goes.
I flashed the lite black rom late last week.
I've been running a BT GPS for a while now with this phone. I've had my BT headset paired as well. I can use both at the same time. Monday, while talking on the headset, it just ended the call spontaneously. A few minutes later, after getting a call back on, it just ended the BT portion, and I had to actually pick up the phone (Horrors!)
Today, the cell phone side seems to be having troubles. (I've not tried the BT headset again, but still running the GPS) Several times I have had a "!" next to the phone icon in place of a signal strength meter... no signal or some error. I've had connection errors with the GPRS as well.
I may try out the micro with the newer radio in it, or look more into flashing an older radio version on here.
Let me know if you need any more details.

dirtisgood said:
I'm not sure if this is a radio issue or something else, but here goes.
I flashed the lite black rom late last week.
I've been running a BT GPS for a while now with this phone. I've had my BT headset paired as well. I can use both at the same time. Monday, while talking on the headset, it just ended the call spontaneously. A few minutes later, after getting a call back on, it just ended the BT portion, and I had to actually pick up the phone (Horrors!)
Today, the cell phone side seems to be having troubles. (I've not tried the BT headset again, but still running the GPS) Several times I have had a "!" next to the phone icon in place of a signal strength meter... no signal or some error. I've had connection errors with the GPRS as well.
I may try out the micro with the newer radio in it, or look more into flashing an older radio version on here.
Let me know if you need any more details.
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Hi,
I'm aware of the issues with the current radio, that why I posted the old radio and splash from v3.0.
Please go back to the first page of the actual release page for v4.0 to download it.

joking said:
Not sure if this is an operator error or the rom error but I installed the Black Dialer from this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1649317&postcount=1
I followed the instructions and did a soft reset, after that the Micro v4.1 run really sloooow. I have to perform a hard reset and reinstall all the other cabs.
So is it because I installed the wrong dialer cab or is it something wrong with the Micro v4.1? Whatever reason is I hope this is a good info for other ppl, too.
Other than that the Micro v4.1 run amazing fast and I do miss the black dial from the Lite Black version
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The dialer I used for v4.0 is different than any others. I did not include it in the micro since there are so many people with different wants and needs.
Some dont like the color of the dialer, some don't like the way the buttons are too small, and etc.
Thus I just plan left it out, so you the user can install a different dialer on top of the existing one.
But I think the one you try to use does not work correctly as a cab.
I've tested the micro version by installing different dialers with success.
I will try and locate a similar dilaer to mine or just create a cab for you folks as soon as I get some free time.
I still need to post different colors for the back ground as well.
Been busy working on my personal rom which will be for version 5.0 and the other versions of 4.0.

i'm using OT 4.0 biggy vista and everytime I set the backlight option to turn off after 3 minutes instead of 30 seconds and the power to turn off in 5 minutes instead of 2 as soon as the power goes off and I turn it on it's right back to 30 seconds and 2 minutes. This ain't a major issue it's just a pain in the ass cuz i'm using slide to unlock and evry 30 seconds I have to keep unlocking it.

nextpimp said:
I was all ready to get mad....break out the flamethowers and what not, but after testing this is CONFIRMED. I added percent and mem feedback to the screen using QM, removed them and could not reenable htc task mgr. I want to say there used to be an option in the HTC x-button settings to show on today screen. That option is not there. Currently searching for the reg key.... will update post
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I personally like it that way better, That way the HTC task manager and the OK button dont overlap and creat confusion. Instead, I use Quickmenu since that has it's own task manager. It shows you what's running and you can close them as well using Quickmenu.
Take a look into it

ttran001 said:
Been busy working on my personal rom which will be for version 5.0 and the other versions of 4.0.
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I'm more then willing to Beta test 5.0 when ready let me know!

nKiwan said:
I'm more then willing to Beta test 5.0 when ready let me know!
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I'm game too.

ttran001 said:
The dialer I used for v4.0 is different than any others. I did not include it in the micro since there are so many people with different wants and needs.
Some dont like the color of the dialer, some don't like the way the buttons are too small, and etc.
Thus I just plan left it out, so you the user can install a different dialer on top of the existing one.
But I think the one you try to use does not work correctly as a cab.
I've tested the micro version by installing different dialers with success.
I will try and locate a similar dilaer to mine or just create a cab for you folks as soon as I get some free time.
I still need to post different colors for the back ground as well.
Been busy working on my personal rom which will be for version 5.0 and the other versions of 4.0.
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Yes you're right. I had to hard reset the Wing since that Black dialer doesn't have the removed option. Well it's a learning experience for me too. And fortunately that v4.1 is UC, all I need to do is remove those cabs from the SDConfig.txt file and re-run it again and voila all the cabs I need is back on the Wing.
Can't wait till you post the cab for the dialer.
So far I love the Lite Black but I like the speed on the Micro better. That's why I try to get the Micro as much closer to the Lite Black as possible.
1 more thing I notice on the Micro, after installed "JUVS HTC Home.v2_1_1005722_s0" cab sometime when I switch back to the home the area where the HTC Home should be got "scramble" for about 2 sec. I still try to duplicate it and report back. It already happened to me 2 times today.

now people have to read 2 threads for 1 rom....... mhhhhhhh.

Just can say Thanks for your great rom.!
It runs perfect..

papamopps said:
now people have to read 2 threads for 1 rom....... mhhhhhhh.
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This is why "Tab browser" kick in

Thoughts on Vario IV

Hi all,
Since its now out and people have them (inc myself!) I thought I'd start a new thread with initial thoughts etc
I like the feel of the unit it feels more solid than my Vario II
I synced all my contacts and texts etc but havent used it to make calls etc yet so cant comment here but the sync was as expected
The phone itself looks great -its a shame the touch-flo is so t-mobile but thats to be expected
I'll probably buy a spare battery once im sure im happy with it (I have a spare with my vario II)
so far I've only installed tomtom 7 (athough there is co-pilot data on the SD Card??)
anywho so far happy but early days!!
J

No opera only IE installed I'll look for an opera cab!!

Are there any significant issues with the latest opera beta?
I see loads of threads relating to it
Should I get the stable build (8.5?) or use the beta?

Ok folks, I've made a small discovery. If you Hard Reset the device, it gives you CoPilot 7 AND Opera back, BUT (and here's the kicker) it gives you a different (older??) version of TouchFlo 3D.
The version I have after the hard reset is 1.2.34589.1_1813.6
What do (sensible) people have out of the box?
The main difference that I can see is that it doesn't have the Favourites (in a circle arrangement) on the far left of the TouchFlo panel and I also seem to remember it looking slightly different as well. I know T-mobile test each phone before they send them out - could they have updated the software through USB but not touched the ROM? Seems like the most likely option IMO.
In respect of the device, so far I'm very impressed with the Vario's speed.
I'm comparing it to the MDA Compact IV I had for a week last year - the extra RAM definitely seems to make a noticeable difference.
Edit:
After Hard Reset:
ROM Version: 1.69.110.8 WWE
ROM Date: 08/21/08
Radio Version: 1.02.25.19
Protocol Version: 52.33.25.17U

Devious said:
Ok folks, I've made a small discovery. If you Hard Reset the device, it gives you CoPilot 7 AND Opera back, BUT (and here's the kicker) it gives you a different (older??) version of TouchFlo 3D.
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Just ordered mine from T Mobile today - at leat the CSR knew (without prompting) it was called the Vario IV, even if they had none in stock!
Re the CoPilot - I have been a long time user of CP6 (came with my Compact II) - is it useable? And did you specify it when ordering, or do you think its inclusion (given your hard reset) is an oversight by T-Mobile?

CoPilot Live is 7 Day Trial

Version
What version of Opera is it?
Supplied Touch pro is:
1.2.34589.1_1813.6
Before Hard Reset

JonathanCassar said:
What version of Opera is it?
Supplied Touch pro is:
1.2.34589.1_1813.6
Before Hard Reset
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Opera is Version 9.5, build 1522.
There is CAB file in the Windows folder to install Opera, when I first Hard reset the device and tried running it, it did not work. I think there's another file (registry?) that needs running to activate it but I quickly gave up and just reset the thing to see what would happen!
Does your TouchFlo have Favourites on the left of the Home tab?

Loving the phone at the moment. But...... texts i receive are with an internaional prefix, so the vario doesn't recognize who sent it.
Strange because there is no such problem with incoming calls ???

screen print
I dont think so..
my homepage is attached

hard reset?
Devious said:
Ok folks, I've made a small discovery. If you Hard Reset the device, it gives you CoPilot 7 AND Opera back, BUT (and here's the kicker) it gives you a different (older??) version of TouchFlo 3D.
The version I have after the hard reset is 1.2.34589.1_1813.6
What do (sensible) people have out of the box?
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How did you do a hard reset?
I tried the vol down and enter combo but it reboots saying image not found..

JonathanCassar said:
How did you do a hard reset?
I tried the vol down and enter combo but it reboots saying image not found..
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Oh really? Another way of doing it is Start--Settings--System--Clear Storage.
The front screen you have is the same as mine now. When I get a chance I'll call up tech support to find out if they have an update.

I did the latter option and it worked thanks
Just Resyncing and putting on texts etc and then I'll play with co-pilot!

NREYNOLDS said:
Loving the phone at the moment. But...... texts i receive are with an internaional prefix, so the vario doesn't recognize who sent it.
Strange because there is no such problem with incoming calls ???
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must some other issue as the match is on the last digits.

NREYNOLDS said:
Loving the phone at the moment. But...... texts i receive are with an internaional prefix, so the vario doesn't recognize who sent it.
Strange because there is no such problem with incoming calls ???
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I have all my numbers stored in international format so my texts were being recognised but incoming calls weren't. Haven't had a chance to test properly but I think I've solved this by using Schapp's Advanced Config which allows you to change the number of digits that are matched.
As nice as the phone is, there a few things that are driving me crazy and I have a feeling I'm going to return it:
* Pressing left/right on the DPad requires you to press in exactly the right area otherwise you hit the call/home/hangup/back keys which is incredibly frustrating.
* No dedicated hardware keys to launch applications. I know you can configure double/triple clicks on the call/hangup keys but it doesn't work too well. You can't configure long presses on these keys
* Can't configure double/triple/long presses of the home or back keys
* Lack of hardware softkeys means I'm unable to use Sky Mobile (the java app) which, for some reason, doesn't work if you press the softkeys on the screen. Although I don't use this that often, it's incredibly useful to have.
I really don't like using Windows Mobile and having to rely on the touchscreen for everything as it's not really designed for finger operation alone. The hardware keys on the Wizard and Kaiser made them really easy to use but I can see I'm not going to get on with this :-( If only I hadn't smashed the screen on my Kaiser!

agree with most of your comments antlane, I will be calling tmobile to return one of my two handsets, I have to say the battery life on this phone is so poor. After a full charge took it off 6am this morning by 12 it had 30% left. It will not last a day for me.

International Format Contact Numbers Not Recognised
antlane said:
I have all my numbers stored in international format so my texts were being recognised but incoming calls weren't. Haven't had a chance to test properly but I think I've solved this by using Schapp's Advanced Config which allows you to change the number of digits that are matched
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@antlane you're a hero. I searched this forum and Google high and low before finding this answer. I've made the adjustment now (to 9 digits seems to work for me in the UK) and life is back to normal
For the purposes of being able to find this fix easily from web searching:
Problem: International Format Contact Numbers Not Recognised (in my case HTC Touch Pro/Raphael/Vario IV)
Solution: Use Schapp's Advanced Config to adjust number of digits matched (under 'phone' section).
As far as your other comments go, I too have mixed feelings about lack of hard buttons (especially for scroll, messaging and camera). But, in balance I am very impressed with TFL3D - it's really integrated well with the OS and provides functionality on top (e.g. remembering what track you were listening to before soft reset unlike WMP). It's fast and gives you the kind of look and feel that I expect from such a capable handset. Also like: keyboard, screen and soft keyboard options. Don't like: excessive T-mobile branding on TFL3D, lack of plain Opera option in programs (only WebnWalk), lack of 3.5mm headphone jack (adapter city still).
Thanks again @antlane

Thanks for that. Switching to 9 digits in advanced config, sorts it out perfectly.
How are people finding the T mobile branding ?? Its a bit pink for me so i may have to find a way to switch it back to HTC Black and grey.

NREYNOLDS said:
Thanks for that. Switching to 9 digits in advanced config, sorts it out perfectly.
How are people finding the T mobile branding ?? Its a bit pink for me so i may have to find a way to switch it back to HTC Black and grey.
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While I don't doubt this fix works for the phone, why on earth should we have to resort to a third party program to get a basic feature of EVERY phone made in the last 10 years or so??
My Vario II could identify a number if it had a +447 or 07 prefix..why can't my shiny new toy??
I've been dealing with T-Mobile customer support and then the tech support team as well over the last couple of days.
So far I've been told to remove any duplicate contacts from the phone memory (there weren't any) then copy all contacts from my SIM over to the phone memory...and erase all SIM contacts when that didn't work!
The last thing they've suggested is that my SIM (which is about 8/9 years old) is not supplying enough voltage (3 volts as opposed to 5 volts of modern SIMs) so they're sending me a new SIM card tomorrow. Apparently (and it made me laugh) this is a common Windows Mobile fault!
Has anyone heard of this "fault" or is this typical tech support BS??!?

Vario IV and Parrot BT
Something else thats frustrating me is that the Vario wont pair fully with my Rythum and Blue stereo in the car.
All other HTC devices (going back to the universal) pair in such a way that contacts and call history sync with the car stereo
The vario IV does connect but wont sync
Annoying as the Object push profile is supported by the phone
I'll probably still keep the phone just use it less in car for calls

Windows 6.5 for Sprint Pro 2, why the delay?

I have searched and searched and can not find out if anyone has put the 6.5 WM from the Intrepid (a WM6.5 touchscreen on Sprint) on the Pro 2? Seems I can put a cooked ROM and the HTC 6.5 upgrade, but not a Sprint version. If I am missing something in the searching, then please tell me what terms to put in the search to get back the results desired. Many thanks!

You're not missing anything. Sprint hasn't released a 6.5 rom yet, and there is no ETA for when they will. If you want 6.5 on a Sprint TP2, your only option is to install a cooked rom.

Will the cooked ROM have the Sprint features? Where is the most reputable site to download a copy of the cooked ROM (I am paranoid) for the TP2 Sprint?
Many Thanks-

I have the sprint tp2, I have NFL / TV / NAV. Not sure what else you would want. 6.5 improves this phone so much.. it's worth doing. Unless someone can tell me how to make it work the only thing that does not work is the Auto Speaker Phone when placed face down, and the auto screen off when placed against your head.

Many thanks for the info. I was excited until I read the last note you made. Those two functions I can not live without. The phone 'locking' when by my head is a HUGE deal, this never worked correctly on my Diamond, had to install a locking program. The speaker aspect is also needed... Damn.. I will start looking for a fix for these issues prior to my upgrading.

Mrcoolgli - For the Speaker phone setting. Have you looked in start > settings > all settings > personal > phone and then bottom tab all the way to the right is an advanced tab.
There is a check box for turning on the speaker when the device is placed face down during a call.

fudder said:
Will the cooked ROM have the Sprint features? Where is the most reputable site to download a copy of the cooked ROM (I am paranoid) for the TP2 Sprint?
Many Thanks-
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at ppcgeeks.com there is a sprint stock rom with manila 2.1 from chazybaz13. I flashed it this morning. It has all the sprint tabs but I didn't test to see if they all work. It's using the latest 6.5.3 build 28005
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=91859

Rulvaren - your right, that fixed it. so now my phone does everything it did before faster and without locking up. I would even go so far to say my battery seems to last much longer as well. I am using the MightRom ROM.

There are a ton of ROMs on PPC Geeks, and they have all of the Sprint carrier cabs to get Nav, TV, NFL, Nascar, MMS, etc.
I'm using a 6.5 ROM on Sprint right now and everything works (and yes, the speakerphone activates when you place the phone face down, and the phone locks and backlight turns off when you place it up to your face).
Hit up ppcgeeks.com and there is a wide variety of ROMs and tweaks to choose from. It's like the xda site for CDMA devices.

Thank you all. I now get it, thanks. Sometimes I feel I should call into the Mr. Obvious show, just didn't make the connection.

Rulvaren said:
Mrcoolgli - For the Speaker phone setting. Have you looked in start > settings > all settings > personal > phone and then bottom tab all the way to the right is an advanced tab.
There is a check box for turning on the speaker when the device is placed face down during a call.
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I've seen this solution a few places, and I'm baffled why I'm not seeing the same thing. I navigate to: start > settings > all settings > personal > phone
but what I see on the bottom are the following tabs:
Phone | Network | CDMA Services | GSM/UMTS Services | More
I don't see anything about 'advanced,' and the 'more' tab has only settings for 'Automatic pickup.' Any ideas why I can't find the speaker option?

rcrabb said:
I've seen this solution a few places, and I'm baffled why I'm not seeing the same thing. I navigate to: start > settings > all settings > personal > phone
but what I see on the bottom are the following tabs:
Phone | Network | CDMA Services | GSM/UMTS Services | More
I don't see anything about 'advanced,' and the 'more' tab has only settings for 'Automatic pickup.' Any ideas why I can't find the speaker option?
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Go to the phone dialer screen (hit the talk button or something so the dialer comes up).
On the dialer screen, hit menu, options, advanced, and then check th ebox that says "Turn speaker on when device is placed face down during a call."

rcrabb said:
I've seen this solution a few places, and I'm baffled why I'm not seeing the same thing. I navigate to: start > settings > all settings > personal > phone
but what I see on the bottom are the following tabs:
Phone | Network | CDMA Services | GSM/UMTS Services | More
I don't see anything about 'advanced,' and the 'more' tab has only settings for 'Automatic pickup.' Any ideas why I can't find the speaker option?
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try scrollin all the way right. use the stylus for the right arrow

tropicalTech said:
try scrollin all the way right. use the stylus for the right arrow
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I just flashed in the latest mightyrom, and the 'advanced' tab is now there.

fudder said:
Thank you all. I now get it, thanks. Sometimes I feel I should call into the Mr. Obvious show, just didn't make the connection.
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actually it was a good question. we all want the official 6.5 update

Check out Sprint TP2 6.5 in action
fudder said:
I have searched and searched and can not find out if anyone has put the 6.5 WM from the Intrepid (a WM6.5 touchscreen on Sprint) on the Pro 2? Seems I can put a cooked ROM and the HTC 6.5 upgrade, but not a Sprint version. If I am missing something in the searching, then please tell me what terms to put in the search to get back the results desired. Many thanks!
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Check out this video I saw and it totally aweson Sprint TP2 Win 6.5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ll9v05PHlU

windoze 6.5 is still in junk mode. it took microsoft like 20 years to get something that looks cool and now they just have to get it to work without a huge margin of error, but i guess thats too tough for them to do. so yeah thats probably whats taking so long. sprint is like "Monk" and microsoft is like alright we narrowed it down to 230967014376 bugs which is within tolerance specs to release. everyone who games still runs xp and it hasnt been supported officially in a few years. im still going to run 6.1 till 6.5 does something more significant than increase the drop down menu to 64pt.

Hope you can help me with this
mrcoolgli said:
rulvaren - your right, that fixed it. So now my phone does everything it did before faster and without locking up. I would even go so far to say my battery seems to last much longer as well. I am using the mightrom rom.
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im using a htc touch pro 2 from sprint but it's unlocked, as you know this phone has both capabilities cdma and gms,
actually im living in mex, and am using the gsm feature with my sim card, so my question is; for wich way i need to download the rom for gsm or cdma or eny of both, and please tell me how o download and istall the mightyrom,
sorry to disturb

I am using MightRom's Rom and both items you state are lacking, work with his. His ROM's are very good!