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For some reason, my i-mate JasJar refuses to work in vibrator mode. I rarely use it, and am not sure when it stopped working.
A couple of days back I put it in vibrator mode and later noticed that there were quite a few missed calls/messages.
Any ideas on this anyone.
gmathews said:
For some reason, my i-mate JasJar refuses to work in vibrator mode. I rarely use it, and am not sure when it stopped working.
A couple of days back I put it in vibrator mode and later noticed that there were quite a few missed calls/messages.
Any ideas on this anyone.
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I assume you have tried to test whether it is a specific problem by going to "notifications" under "settings" and chosen "vibrate", then pressed the play icon and it didn't work.
In this case I'd make a backup and look what happens after a hard reset. If it never worked for you with this rom, flash an original one.
If the problem still is there by now, it most certainly is a hardwareerror. So open the unit and remove the vibrator. Be careful with its plug and use a tool or your fingernails as a tool, if they're long enough.
If you haven't a tweezer and short fingernails, ask your GF to do it or try if can come on to girls with asking them to help you with this
Anyway, once out measure the resistance of the vibrator. It should be within a reasonable range, meaning not about zero and not above some, hmm, perhabs dozens, Ohms.
I don't know if this thing gets connected to full battery voltage, but testing it with something about 3V should not harm it, if you don't have something to measure resistance. If it doesn't move, meaning vibrate, you have the reason why it doesn't work.
If you want to be sure you now measure whether it gets juice or not if your phone should vibrate. I don't know what the chances are, but it is possible that the circuit that enables it got damaged.
If the vibrator seems to be fine you should do this anyway.
What's up if the vibrator's working and full battery voltage is on it's connectors when the phone should try vibrate I do not know. But the chances of the problem being easy to fix are then gone to about zero
In this case I'd make a backup and look what happens after a hard reset. If it never worked for you with this rom, flash an original one. - Did this, without any luck.
If the problem still is there by now, it most certainly is a hardwareerror. So open the unit and remove the vibrator. Be careful with its plug and use a tool or your fingernails as a tool, if they're long enough. - It sounds easy enough - but could you help me here? - open the unit - i have never gone beyond replacing batteries so how do i know what to look for?
Thanks in advance
gmathews said:
It sounds easy enough - but could you help me here? - open the unit - i have never gone beyond replacing batteries so how do i know what to look for?
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Well, there isn't a button to press that will just open the case for you, but if you're not cursed to have more thumbs than fingers you should be able to do it.
You just need the proper torx screw driver and something to unlock the plastic hooks that keep the phone closed after the screws are gone. I used a cut out part of the blister package from my SDHC card, a good friend of mine always uses old credit and membership cards. Just be sure to use something made out of soft material that won't bend too easily when lateral force is put on it. If you use something made out of metal you will most certainly leave scratches.
If you don't really know what I'm talking about, go to the Wiki page, found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal
There is a section "Hacks and Tweaks", in which is a link to the service manual. Get that and read through the pictured manual to disassemble te device. Now take a look at your phone and the narrow gap between the parts of the housing and you will know why I brabbled so much about that. And also the size of the torx screw driver you'll need.
In service manual everything is described step by step, with lots of photos. You have to know for yourself if you're gonna do that or leave it to someone else. It looks more horrifying than it actually is, the quality of the housing material is good and what you wanna do is relativly easy but if something should happen you are hereby told that nobody else can be held responsible.
Since I don't know you, I can't really recommend you to do or leave it, but it's really not a big deal and the bucks some guy at a shop will charge you for less than five minutes of easy work are better off to be donated to your favorite rom cook
don't vibrate
I had this problem when I opened my 64 mb uni and I managed to make it work again.It took many tries to get it work again.I think the way you put it in his "socket" let it vibrate or not...
Now it's the same problem with my 128 Mb uni which came back from retronix (upgrading ram) with vibrator "HS".I opened it and didn't manage to make it work again, i'll try later but i'm sure it's not faulty, just the way they put it back.
EvilJogga is right, service manual is usefull, I was afraid to open my uni's, now i do it with "eyes closed".
Sorry for my bad english, good luck !
Change the radio ROM
gmathews said:
For some reason, my i-mate JasJar refuses to work in vibrator mode. I rarely use it, and am not sure when it stopped working.
A couple of days back I put it in vibrator mode and later noticed that there were quite a few missed calls/messages.
Any ideas on this anyone.
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I had the same problem with Radio ROMs 1.17 and 1.18 - changing it back to 1.15 returned the vibration.
Kids were playing games with this phone and one of them got pissed and throw the phone against the wall. Lucky there's no broken screen but the problem now is, this thing cannot powered on. Even with fully charged battery (charged with another HTC). Pressing both vol keys while inserting cable or vol keys while inserting battery doesn't work. Not even one led light goes up. Just dead dead! PC cannot recognize even after plugged in for several hours.
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Kids were playing games with this phone and one of them got pissed and throw the phone against the wall. Lucky there's no broken screen but the problem now is, this thing cannot powered on. Even with fully charged battery (charged with another HTC). Pressing both vol keys while inserting cable or vol keys while inserting battery doesn't work. Not even one led light goes up. Just dead dead! PC cannot recognize even after plugged in for several hours.
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Owww...i think it is gone....
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Oooh is your device still under warentee? If so I would return and perhaps say it died. If there is not signs of physical abuse you should be ok. Hopefully they can fix under warentee? By any chance have you tried another battery? I know you charged but battery could have gone bad. Also check to see if your battery is LOOSE in its area, this sometimes happens and contact cam be restored by placing some paper opposite the contact area.see if it wiggles if so try the paper at the opposite side of contact, this can restore the contract with the battery and device. If that won't work I'd call in the warentee. I wish you the best and hope your issue goes back to normal! Good luck!
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Kids were playing games with this phone
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Good idea, let the child play with the hundreds-dollar device.
I don't want to be rude, but this has bad idea all over it.
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Oooh is your device still under warentee? If so I would return and perhaps say it died. If there is not signs of physical abuse you should be ok. Hopefully they can fix under warentee? By any chance have you tried another battery? I know you charged but battery could have gone bad. Also check to see if your battery is LOOSE in its area, this sometimes happens and contact cam be restored by placing some paper opposite the contact area.see if it wiggles if so try the paper at the opposite side of contact, this can restore the contract with the battery and device. If that won't work I'd call in the warentee. I wish you the best and hope your issue goes back to normal! Good luck!
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I am afraid HTC will see that there's been physical abuse to the phone, since he can't see everything that's broken. When they open up the phone, it could bee possible they see something they do not want to see like a loosend chip or even a broken motherbord, and that is rather hard to achieve. Maybe he's lucky, maybe not. I don't know...
Well, in such a situation, there is very little you can do unless you are capable of repairing the phone yourself.
HTC will not provide you with warranty if there is any physical damage.
However, since there is barely any damage on the outside, try and play it off as a DOA.
Tell HTC that the phone just went dead for no reason & wouldn't switch on at all.
If you're lucky, then they give you a replacement. This is applicable only if your device is still in the warranty period.
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Well, in such a situation, there is very little you can do unless you are capable of repairing the phone yourself.
HTC will not provide you with warranty if there is any physical damage.
However, since there is barely any damage on the outside, try and play it off as a DOA.
Tell HTC that the phone just went dead for no reason & wouldn't switch on at all.
If you're lucky, then they give you a replacement. This is applicable only if your device is still in the warranty period.
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Ouch, lets lie to HTC and say that his kid didn't smash his phone. Kind of douchey if you ask me.
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Ouch, lets lie to HTC and say that his kid didn't smash his phone. Kind of douchey if you ask me.
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^OT, but nonetheless, we void our warranty with S Off and conveniently get it back to stock when warranty claim is required. That doesn't seem like lying to you, does it?
All these modifications to phone software that we cover up is if course not lying, is it? We're all such moral human beings here, no?
If you get my point, well & good. OP asked for solution, I gave him one that made sense. If you have a better solution, I'm all ears my friend!
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^OT, but nonetheless, we void our warranty with S Off and conveniently get it back to stock when warranty claim is required. That doesn't seem like lying to you, does it?
All these modifications to phone software that we cover up is if course not lying, is it? We're all such moral human beings here, no?
If you get my point, well & good. OP asked for solution, I gave him one that made sense. If you have a better solution, I'm all ears my friend!
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Perhaps this is true, but S-OFF doesn't actually do any damage. Giving yourself the opportunity to flash a better rom than HTC chooses to provide us doesn't really do anything bad, it's only bad if you severely mess it up and have to send it back (and I still don't agree with performing S-ON to send it back for warranty).
To me, there's a pretty big difference between unlocking your phone's potential and giving your phone to a living catapult. The way I see it, smartphones are not toys. They can act as entertainment devices, but they are not toys. It's funny to see eight year olds bumping into people because they're too busy playing pinball on their iPhone 4S. You know it's bound to be dropped, scuffed, screen shattered, water damaged. You know it's gonna happen whether they're two years old or twelve years old. If you're that determined, get them a used iPod Touch and if they can maintain it, great. If not, well, there ya go.
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Perhaps this is true, but S-OFF doesn't actually do any damage. Giving yourself the opportunity to flash a better rom than HTC chooses to provide us doesn't really do anything bad, it's only bad if you severely mess it up and have to send it back (and I still don't agree with performing S-ON to send it back for warranty).
To me, there's a pretty big difference between unlocking your phone's potential and giving your phone to a living catapult. The way I see it, smartphones are not toys. They can act as entertainment devices, but they are not toys. It's funny to see eight year olds bumping into people because they're too busy playing pinball on their iPhone 4S. You know it's bound to be dropped, scuffed, screen shattered, water damaged. You know it's gonna happen whether they're two years old or twelve years old. If you're that determined, get them a used iPod Touch and if they can maintain it, great. If not, well, there ya go.
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This is going terribly off topic. If you would like to discuss these issues, start a new thread. OP asks for a solution to the problem. If your post is a solutions or a valid suggestion, it is welcome, but please, let's not continue the OT posts.
Problem here with waranty is I'm not in the US. This is TMobile. I tried to shake the unit but couldn't hear anything loose.
Thanks guys for all your help. I'm trying to dig a little further. I'm sure there's got to be a simple answer somewhere. And if I find, I will post.
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This is going terribly off topic. If you would like to discuss these issues, start a new thread. OP asks for a solution to the problem. If your post is a solutions or a valid suggestion, it is welcome, but please, let's not continue the OT posts.
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Fair enough.
OP, there is a hardware issue with your device. I am almost certain it was caused by a child throwing it. You can take it to someone hoping it can be repaired, hopefully it's something as simple as a terminal that runs to the battery popping loose. You can also send it to HTC, to which they will repair it for a nominal fee, likely around one hundred and fifty USD.
They will definitely not repair it for free, because it was physically damaged. You can also lie to them, and hope they will cover it as a seemingly randomly dead unit, but odds are they will open it up and see physical damage. From there, they'll probably send it back to you - in it's previous condition.
Well firstly ouch. Secondly if it is the battery the device should boot with the USB in + no battery. Might help. Maby like my old TV it just needs another *light* bash?
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heavy_metal_man said:
Well firstly ouch. Secondly if it is the battery the device should boot with the USB in + no battery. Might help. Maby like my old TV it just needs another *light* bash?
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I want you to try this on your phone right now and then proceed to eat your words. You cannot turn on the phone without a battery because the circuit is incomplete!
Ok boys, PC can now recognize phone as "Zeus Flash Device". Where do I go from here. I'm hoping if I flash something, it could put phone back to normal stage at least with lights on.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/jv553a.jpg?139d23
Jabbacks said:
Ok boys, PC can now recognize phone as "Zeus Flash Device". Where do I go from here. I'm hoping if I flash something, it could put phone back to normal stage at least with lights on.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/jv553a.jpg?139d23
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Can you please click the link in my signature and come on over to the IRC?
Which one, you have 2 links. what is your irc? ######?????
Jabbacks said:
Which one, you have 2 links. what is your irc? ######?????
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#helpmenow
webchat.freenode.net/?channels=helpmenow
query me once you get there.
Well, it's been fun. My Q was sitting on my lap instead of the seat next to me, and decided to go flying into a glass of water.
I was using it for navigation, and the damned thing worked - got me back to the hotel. I shut it off, threw it in a box of rice... But it seems like a lost cause.
The phone turns on, most of it even works - I can see the screen, it connects to data, accelerometer works, vibe works, alarms, notifications... all work. But the touchscreen critically does not.
I was thinking, just replace the touch screen... well the USB port doesn't seem to work anymore either. It charges, but only occasionally does the computer detect anything is plugged in... and it doesn't know what the heck to do with it.
So I'm going to try and find a Q for sale... although somehow I doubt I'll be able to. Swappa has 0 lol.
Not sure what I'll get, but I am going to miss this small but tight nit community. Cheers!
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Well, it's been fun. My Q was sitting on my lap instead of the seat next to me, and decided to go flying into a glass of water.
I was using it for navigation, and the damned thing worked - got me back to the hotel. I shut it off, threw it in a box of rice... But it seems like a lost cause.
The phone turns on, most of it even works - I can see the screen, it connects to data, accelerometer works, vibe works, alarms, notifications... all work. But the touchscreen critically does not.
I was thinking, just replace the touch screen... well the USB port doesn't seem to work anymore either. It charges, but only occasionally does the computer detect anything is plugged in... and it doesn't know what the heck to do with it.
So I'm going to try and find a Q for sale... although somehow I doubt I'll be able to. Swappa has 0 lol.
Not sure what I'll get, but I am going to miss this small but tight nit community. Cheers!
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Oh no, not good! How long did u "dry" it before u turned it back on? Maybe u should've waited more??
Anyhow, there are lots on amazon and ebay if ur in the states, very cheap prices.
But of course, there are lots of other nice phones out there! Thanks for all you have done for the community!
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arrrghhh said:
Well, it's been fun. My Q was sitting on my lap instead of the seat next to me, and decided to go flying into a glass of water.
I was using it for navigation, and the damned thing worked - got me back to the hotel. I shut it off, threw it in a box of rice... But it seems like a lost cause.
The phone turns on, most of it even works - I can see the screen, it connects to data, accelerometer works, vibe works, alarms, notifications... all work. But the touchscreen critically does not.
I was thinking, just replace the touch screen... well the USB port doesn't seem to work anymore either. It charges, but only occasionally does the computer detect anything is plugged in... and it doesn't know what the heck to do with it.
So I'm going to try and find a Q for sale... although somehow I doubt I'll be able to. Swappa has 0 lol.
Not sure what I'll get, but I am going to miss this small but tight nit community. Cheers!
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Do you not have TEP? I actually just got a replacement due to my touchscreen crapping out (it would work sometimes after a reboot--or several reboots more accurately, but even then sliding the keyboard out always instantly made it stop working).
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Do you not have TEP? I actually just got a replacement due to my touchscreen crapping out (it would work sometimes after a reboot--or several reboots more accurately, but even then sliding the keyboard out always instantly made it stop working).
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No, I had TEP a while ago but let's just say they always managed to find a way to screw me. Got sick of it, and my last phone didn't even qualify for it...
That, and the whole voided warranty thing made me think it's really not worth it. Although in this case they would probably treat it as if the device was stolen, and make me pay the $100 deductible, or whatever it is now.
Looking at what it is going to cost to get another phone, I might just end up grabbing a Q on ebay. I really do like the physical kb, and there's really not a whole lot of choice out there (like I didn't know that already, lol).
We'll see. Since the thing still turns on and functions, I'm going to completely tear it apart when I get home and see if there's something obvious.
Been a watcher on the forums for awhile, now I actually had to sign up and get some help, LOL.
Anyway, dropped my s2 skyrocket, noticed that it kept trying to reboot every now and then when I used it the same day. The next day, I plugged it in in the evening, and shut off, rebooted, but the screen would go black and the phone would vibrate with 2 seconds in between vibrations. It gets to the "Samsung" word, then the screen goes black in the style of an old tube TV (with the thin white line at the end). Then the vibrations start. So far a useless phone. Took it apart and checked connections carefully (I'm used to working with processor boards quite a bit).
What do you guys suggest? Damaged memory? Should I attempt to reflash? Stuck power button (seemed ok, though)? Bad screen?
Well, probably some kind of physical damage, but hard to say. Anyway, you posted in the forum for SGH-I777 but you have the SGH-I727, so I would suggest that you look in the correct forum.
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Well, probably some kind of physical damage, but hard to say. Anyway, you posted in the forum for SGH-I777 but you have the SGH-I727, so I would suggest that you look in the correct forum.
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Oh, thanks for the heads up. Yeah I just figured out that the i727 isn't in "Top Devices" or "Legacy," so you have to go to all forums. Ugg. Already moved. Thanks to whoever notified mod.
Anyway, yeah, any help would be AWESOME. What physical damage would prevent booting past the "Samsung" screen and default to a black screen that intermittently vibrates?
I'll be honest, if ur asking that question probably something u don't have the current skill set to fix. Try to Odin back stock, but if it started post-drop you may be SOL and in need of a new phone.
Got it into download mode after multiple failed attempts. Each time I would get it into download mode, the screen would shut off after about 5 seconds of being on. I tried several combinations of plugging it in first, then installing the battery, or holding down the button while I plugged it in with no battery, etc. I had just given up after getting it into download mode briefly for the 20th time, when I gave it one more go while rocking the on and off button. Technically that is recovery mode, but I let off right before plugging the phone in and it hit download mode and stuck.
So what I am thinking is the power button got jammed internally. I have heard of it happening on other forums. Even though it looks good and clicks upon external examination, the pressure circuit on the inside might be in contact. Anyway, just one theory.
For future though, I did discover that you don't HAVE to have the USB unplugged prior to getting into download mode. On the contrary, a power source must be present in order to register that the keys are pressed PRIOR to initiating USB input. Thus, you can actually remove the battery, plug in the USB (power source), then hold the volume keys while replacing the battery. Goes into download mode that way, too.
Will keep you guys updated. Might need a bit more help if the phone starts acting up again.
At this point, if the Download mode still holds ok, should I consider CyanogenMod, or is it easier to get back a good ROM from stock?
icenight:
Thanks for the reply. I don't understand much about smart phones or how they work, but trust me when I say I have had AMPLE experience with electronics, circuit boards, hardware, etc., particularly in the computer/laptop world. I code quite a bit of websites, and understand almost all things networking and OS. Just never really got into it with the phones.
Getting super excited to see the sheer amount of modding you can do though. Would love to break into a hardware modding world if it ever comes available. That's where it's at with electronics for me.
Well glad u got it sorted, lucky guy you are lol.
As for boards and the like, if it didn't work I would've suggested replacing the motherboard and/or power daughter board. But for a skyrocket may not be worth the money.
Since you're a hardware guy, maybe mess around with the phone and JTAG? Finding a way to unbrick without it would be very helpful
Since the problems started after a physical damage (fall) , I wonder how would Odin or wipe and flash might work !
Definitely a hardware damage...
Yeah, it kinda puzzled me, too. I believe the power button might have been internally stuck, but that's just one idea. Could have been a loose connection, too.
Can you lose some solid state memory with firmware on it, but the SS memory still be OK to right another copy on?
More than likely it was your power button
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A friend of mine had a Galaxy S3 Amber with a broken (and blank) screen and wanted her data from it's internal memory that is locked and not in debugged mode. I did a lot of research and found the best, most efficient way was to do a motherboard swap with another gs3. I had a Galaxy S3 Blue. I watched a couple of videos and it seemed rather easy. I gathered the proper tools and was EXTREMELY careful not to break or rip anything (and to my knowledge i did not). When i put her motherboard from the amber one into the blue one and the screen would not come on. My first thoughts were it must be her motherboard that went bad. Well when i went to put my blue gs3 back together (again being very careful this entire time) I'm now having the same issue as she was. Black screen, no back light. The bottom lights DO come on and i feel it vibrate when i get a message. There was also no power on chime...
I know its hard to tell with out looking but any ideas on what could be wrong or what i might have screwed up? i checked all the connections and everything looks perfect. Nothing is bent or connected wrong and I didn't force or break anything.
update: so i found that the touch part of it still works fine. i can hear the ripple unlock as well as all the other sounds and such when i touch around and i can here it opening apps. the only issue lies in the screen itself being blank with no back light what so ever,
First of all remove the battery and attempt to power on, then leave without battery for 1 min, I know this sounds silly but it worked on an old iPhone 3G so anythings worth a shot.
If that doesn't work go back into the S3 and make sure all the data clips are firmly in place and locked down but not twisted in anyway. Also make sure their is no moisture or dust on the ribbons. You may not realise it but even the smallest imperfection with this can cause massive issues down the line.
If all else fails her phone may have broke your screen, I don't know how but it is a possibility
Hope I could help and good luck
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First of all remove the battery and attempt to power on, then leave without battery for 1 min, I know this sounds silly but it worked on an old iPhone 3G so anythings worth a shot.
If that doesn't work go back into the S3 and make sure all the data clips are firmly in place and locked down but not twisted in anyway. Also make sure their is no moisture or dust on the ribbons. You may not realise it but even the smallest imperfection with this can cause massive issues down the line.
If all else fails her phone may have broke your screen, I don't know how but it is a possibility
Hope I could help and good luck
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so i took it apart again today to double check and clean everything and under inspection i noticed a teeny tiny slit on the edge of the lower, bigger ribbon. i know the smallest bit could be horrid. Any fix and would that cause just the screen to not show? i don't know if that is the led connection but i think it may be.
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so i took it apart again today to double check and clean everything and under inspection i noticed a teeny tiny slit on the edge of the lower, bigger ribbon. i know the smallest bit could be horrid. Any fix and would that cause just the screen to not show? i don't know if that is the led connection but i think it may be.
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If theirs a slit I'm affraid that could be it for the screen, like I said even the smallest imperfection can cause massive issues. The slit is probably in the one of the data sections of the ribbon cable which is why data for the screen isn't being carried.
For the fix I don't think their is one unless you can fit a new ribbon on to yout S3's screen
Sorry about the screen
So I took it all apart again. Cleaned ever little thing I could and now it works again. ?
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So I took it all apart again. Cleaned ever little thing I could and now it works again. ?
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Excellent, must have just had some dust or gunk on the cable
Glad you got it working again:victory:
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Excellent, must have just had some dust or gunk on the cable
Glad you got it working again:victory:
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As am I. Thanks alot for helping. I appreciate it. id buy you a beer if I could lol.
amshook said:
As am I. Thanks alot for helping. I appreciate it. id buy you a beer if I could lol.
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No problem, thats what XDA is here for:laugh: