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Thinking about getting a Touch Pro (former Kaiser and current iPhone owner)

I bought an iPhone after getting sick of some issues with my kaiser:
* keyboard lag (I could type faster than the OS could deal with it, so keypresses would be missed)
* dialpad lag (my kaiser would miss numbers when I was dialing)
These two issues caused me to purchase an iPhone 3g and I regret it. The exchange activesync in the iPhone is worthless.
Do you have issues when typing with the keyboard or inputting numbers?
Thanks

It is a big difference, for me the TP is the first WM device where i notice no lag when typing of using the dialpad. Only thing that you should know, is that when you slide out the keyboard it takes a few seconds before the device catches up with your typing. Other than that, it's perfect.

Hello moosic,
There is still a lag sometimes, but the phone manages to remember most of the time what you typed.
I must say it is a pretty good phone on that point of view

I'd say, go for the Touch Pro.
Just don't expect too much right now.
But judging the device's stock ROM,
this will be a great device once our great developers cook proper tweaked ROMs.
It's been only a month and we're already seeing cooked ROMs around.
I expect by the end of the year we will have many hot cooking ovens

A project I find interesting is the one of Touch Xperience (from the same guy that developped advanced config tools). I think that a properly cooked ROM with that as default would be really impressive.
I think we could easily make cry every iphone owner... :^P
Payback time!
(I think the song Back in Black from ACDC would be a good anthem for that... hihi)

WDawn said:
when you slide out the keyboard it takes a few seconds before the device catches up with your typing]
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not here nope

Flippy_TK said:
A project I find interesting is the one of Touch Xperience (from the same guy that developped advanced config tools). I think that a properly cooked ROM with that as default would be really impressive.
I think we could easily make cry every iphone owner... :^P
Payback time!
(I think the song Back in Black from ACDC would be a good anthem for that... hihi)
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So true! I am totally waiting patiently for Schaps to release this interface and put it on all kaiser and (soon to be) touch pro. I'd be so happy. It looks soo cool. I can't believe schaps as decided to make it freeware. He had godly skills We should have him head of winmo developement in microsoft.

yes i agree too i am moving from kaiser to the pro coz of this problem

Chainfire @ MWC2009, Barcelona

Typing this up really quickly as im waiting for lunch, will expand later.
I got lots of pics and vids already, which i may post later if there is any interest.
Android stuff seems to be decidedly absent so far.
@Microsoft: You all probably already heard about WM 6.5, saw some demos live, looks like a decent UI improvement, but its still no iPhone. Also saw some new devices here, including Acer stuff.
@nVidia: I did get a chance to play with a Tegra device, which was really snappy and smooth, but also the size of a small house. Very promising. They did have two normal Tegra devices on display, with names I had seldom heard before, but behind glass.
@HTC: Played with the Touch Diamond 2 a bit. I dont like the new form factor much. It wastes space at the bottom, and introduces a zoom slider that I couldnt get to work in either IE or Opera. They did do some more HTC integration, new startmenu, better contacts list etc. The Touch Max is just an HD with WiMAX.
@Qualcomm: They demod snapdragon, but it didnt seem as impressive as Tegra. Also, I was not allowed to touch the device. The now infamous Toshiba was also there, but again, no touching. BTW Nokia just made a deal with these guys, so abandon ship!
@LG: I was surprised to learn they are switching to WM as primary OS. They had some nice Omnia-like devices though, and the wristwatchphone was also fun.
@Samsung: Biggest surprise here, it seems the OmniaHD is running Symbian! No idea yet if there will also be a WM version.
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The open eco system keynote with Microsoft, Nokia and AT&T CEOS was interesting. AT&T guys was the best, Ballmer a close second with his energetic ways and content, while the Nokia guy almost killed everybody due to excess boredom. The keynote itself was mostly a call for more working together and being generally more open with things, which they all agreed was necessary.
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BTW, I dont know who CBOSS are or what they do, but they do employ an army of hot models!
More later, lunch is here, and I want to find myself a Palm Pre to play with!

ok, just tell me which device to get and that's it. so many out there i can't decide what i want.
JUST TELL ME! AHHH!

Omnia HD!!
HTC's hardware seems to be stuck in 2007 compared to Samsung and LG, heck even Sony Ericsson.
Kinda worrying how ppl are moving towards Symbian, but can't blame them windows mobile really is starting to show its age and no amount of skinning will disguise the fact that it needs a major revamp.

Okay, I was seriously thinking of abandoning the HTC ship for the nokia N97, so I could keep my tilt screen, but now? So if it is not too much trouble, my contract is up in April, could you please corner the AT$T guys and ask them when my new Touch Pro II ( Fuze II ? ) will be available on AT$T? Thanks

Some more stuff... First, somebody at HTC really needs to be fired for putting XT9 on the TP enabled when keyboard is extended. Annoying like hell, finally its off
Found some very nice Android devices that should be out by Q2. The company didnt decide on the brand name yet.
Unfortunately you cant play with the Palm Pre unless you are press.
@Gigabyte (GSmart): some very nice upcoming WM devices. Some were running 6.5 and I played with that. I think somebody made a mistake there!
@iMate: They drowned some of their WM phones. Waterproof!

can you attempt to get the new WM6.5 build ?

Chainfire said:
Some more stuff... First, somebody at HTC really needs to be fired for putting XT9 on the TP enabled when keyboard is extended. Annoying like hell, finally its off
Found some very nice Android devices that should be out by Q2. The company didnt decide on the brand name yet.
Unfortunately you cant play with the Palm Pre unless you are press.
@Gigabyte (GSmart): some very nice upcoming WM devices. Some were running 6.5 and I played with that. I think somebody made a mistake there!
@iMate: They drowned some of their WM phones. Waterproof!
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Any more info on these very nice Android phones?

LOL chainfire,
so you're off to palm some hot models...

xplode said:
can you attempt to get the new WM6.5 build ?
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Just like the old days when we were trying to get our hands on WM5....
ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP!!!!!!! (chanting)
Come on Chain, you can do it!

egzthunder1 said:
Just like the old days when we were trying to get our hands on WM5....
ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP!!!!!!! (chanting)
Come on Chain, you can do it!
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lol let's hope

mbarvian said:
lol let's hope
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Lol and then he gets caught and gets on Engadget or something.
But you'll be our hero.

well he just needs some time alone with one device (10 minutes will do) and an sd card (or any variant of it - mini, micro)

Chainfire said:
@Qualcomm: They demod snapdragon, but it didnt seem as impressive as Tegra. Also, I was not allowed to touch the device. The now infamous Toshiba was also there, but again, no touching.
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At Toshiba's booth, you can freely play with the TG01. Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3339526 for more info & a lot of pics & videos (more to come!!!)

Hey Werner!
You're here? Haven't gotten round to Toshiba's booth yet, but if you're interested, PM me your phone number (plus international code bla bla) and we can meet up, schedules allowing... There will be beer!

No ROM dumps people It's a small booth, can't make it happen.
About those Android phones we saw (and I must stress here, I haven't even seen half of all the exhibits yet because of appointments and speeches etc), first, they looked very nice. One of the sexiest phone designs I've seen in a while, but then it was made by a 'design company'. They originally focused on Linux but switched to Android when it was released. According to them, they are using the default Android 'shell' - which is a shame, because their Linux phone had one of the awesomest shells I've seen in a while. I don't think they really understood me correctly, but it seemed they were saying that for these phones you can get apps to run as root without jailbreaking by getting it certified by them (or something.. wasn't really clear).
There were also some Androids coming out under the General Mobile label, but not necessarily those I mentioned above
And no, we're not palming those models (but perhaps we will? ) but we are sure to do some clubhopping here. It's Barcelona, after all! In fact I just got back from a club
EDIT: Also, at SPB's booth we were shown SPB Shell 3.0 (after being persistent), dont have any pics or vids of that. But it's pretty darn cool. I'm going to buy it when it's out, most likely, beats the crap out of TF3D.

Chainfire said:
EDIT: Also, at SPB's booth we were shown SPB Shell 3.0 (after being persistent), dont have any pics or vids of that. But it's pretty darn cool. I'm going to buy it when it's out, most likely, beats the crap out of TF3D.
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I've taken a video of it; it's at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA

Menneisyys said:
I've taken a video of it; it's at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA
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Wow ! Looks great, very cool. Your right, look out TF3D.

Alright !!!! It looks like Chainfire is coming home with the goods after all.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,20797,25076342-952,00.html
Well done! A new Touch Pro II and WM 6.5.

hey Chainfire wanna do a beer .
At least i can show u my gratitude for all the work u done.. U here for ur work or what i was looking in to buy a ticket but its simply too expensive

Hehe wasn't me!
Sandbunny: Unfortunately I'm getting on the airplane back home in a few hours

so so so bored with the Treo Pro

REEEEALLLLLLLLLY bored with it...

Nobody wants to see this ****. Post this somewhere else.

mind your business noob....

This should not be posted in the upgrading section. Please don't clutter this forum with threads like this. They really don't contribute in any way!
I believe that a lot of people agree with you that it's a boring device when it comes to ROM's etc. On the other hand you can still tweak it a lot!
I use a TouchPro2 now but I just can't get rid of my Pro 'cause it's such a good device for me
Hope there will be some new life into this thread when the Pro get's released by other providers.

golfernutnflorida said:
mind your business noob....
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Still bored there princess?

I understand that this "Qualcomm" stuff not good/speedy as Cheetah (previous Treo 750)
Maybe?

acidhax said:
Still bored there princess?
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As a matter of fact yes, we have an unlocker and 3 roms to choose from, but all 3 are not working the way they should. We need more cooks and more testers before things get released that simply do no work.

why don't you just ditch the phone and get an htc hero when it comes out. that's what i am going to do, eventually (probably dec 15, my birthday, when i get $$$). the phone was once good but now obsolete. there are so much better phones than it coming out if not already out.

Bored with your Treo Pro?
Give it to me, i have a Tilt2 (Touch Pro 2) and I'm just as bored it not more. (Wow i been around since 2006 and this is my first post begging for a phone) Sad.

trade?
I will trade you for a used HTC fuze if you want...I am bored with it as well and am looking for something with a front facing keyboard...but its gotta be a gsm treo pro

mumboender said:
I will trade you for a used HTC fuze if you want...I am bored with it as well and am looking for something with a front facing keyboard...but its gotta be a gsm treo pro
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Damn,... I wish I could trade it with you,.. sadly mine is GSM subsidized.. so I can't get rid of it. Love my Treo Pro,.. but I'm as bored as anyone.. I carry it and my Touch Pro2 and I still can't get enough of the eye candy on Sense..
Wish someone brought Sense to a 320x320 device..

the treo pro is a much better phone over the Fuze or TP
I traded my TP for Treo Pro and... I never once after like 6 months thought about the TP. I did not miss a single thing about it.

Not so boring anymore--Try Androkkid and add programs
The windows today screen is boring but the Treo Pro can be updated with a launcher. Adrokkid gives you the android feel,is fully customizable and works ok on the 320x320 screen. Cab express 4.0 is a great program to update your Treo Pro. Lets you see utilities and more, see ratings and instant download. Battery usage can be limited by doing manual updates on email, weather and gps. Otherwise Treo is constantly checking same.

@Sagitario
I'm using Pointui with Pointsense theme. Search for 320x320 on Community section of website. www.pointiu.com
George

You can use a cooked rom on this device too

Snapdragon 1 GHz is great BUT...

I just picked up a LG IQ (Monaco) from Telus, but I am not sure what to do....I posted a similar list of questions over on ppcgeeks, but then relized that the LG IQ is sort of a GSM phone (Telus seems to be migrating to a GSM G3+ system from thier CDMA system) and thier might be more interest over here.
I did have a Rogers GSM Apache prior to my Touch Pro, so I was watching this sight quite a bit years ago.
I have just come from a Touch Pro, so the LG IQ is a smokingly fast device, both from a responsiveness, and web surfing point of view. The 1 GHz realy DOES make a difference!!!
But that is my problem...
For what it does, its great, but the interface is far behind the latest Sence builds ( I have mostly used Energy CDMA ROM's on my Touch Pro - thanks NRG!!).
So I have a phone that does stuff FAST, but I miss all the bells and whistles of the new HTC software.
1. What to you guys think..should I keep the device, or go to a Touch Pro2, a known but much more limited hardware platform?
2. Do you think there will be enough interest to open it up and start building kitchens/ROMs?
3. Should I just live with it and put Spb shell or something on it?
Sadly the TP2 or the Omnia (1) really are the only WM options available directly from telus right now, and I am quite a committed WM user (I started with the original CE PDA's)
Ready to hear all thoughts.
If there is interest I will post a miny review in a couple of days...are you interested?

keep your 1G phone! everybody say window mobile is sluggish, maybe on 528mzh cpu, but on snapdragon 1G i dont feel any slowness, it quick! and load/render web pages really quick too! if the phone is hot/popular, people will make custom rom for it!
i love my Acer neotouch with 1G cpu, it' so fast!

i tihnk u should keep it. i would love to hv the lg expo as my 2nd phone. mostly because of the keyboard.
right now im on acer neotouch which also has the 1ghz snappydragon and it feels really snappy compared to my old wm phone (X1).
however it also lacks a custom interface likes htc's sense but i hv installed PointUI on my acer just to cover up some of the default windows stuff. maybe u can try that.
i think there will be enough interest in the lg expo that some smart ppl will start developing custom roms for it.
just like my acer neotouch. i was surprised a couple of members here hv cooked custom roms with htc sense for it. though i havent tried them out myself. maybe in time.

meh
1) No, the Touch PRo hasn't been out that long either. There will be plenty of goodies for the LG soon enough once it gets a bit more market penetration. I myself have the phone on order but won't be getting it until next week or later (hoping it arrives before christmas x (>.<) x [fingers crossed]). Just give it some time.
2)Most assuredly! The eXpo has quite the winning combo of hardware features. I'm most excited about the touch sensor, no more trackball nightmares! Nevermind the cool stuff that can be done with the projector.
3)I think you just need to be patient. You are on the bleeding edge of tech, it's going to take the community a little while to catch up esp considering the holiday season. All these wonderful programmers and ROM chefs have families too.

dude r u serious !!!
offcourse keep the lg iq ...
sooner or later there will be a port ..
wait until att release it...
2c

Keep the IQ and please do a rom dump of it quickly too! PM me and I can help you if you need. Thanks!

u might not get custom roms unless spocky12 plans to cook one.
either way, the snapdragon makes up for the sluggish WM.
u'll still be able to install apps made by the wonderful people here at xda.
i say keep the phone!

Once you have snapdragon, why go back to anything with less cpu...Keep it!

treiz said:
1) No, the Touch PRo hasn't been out that long either. There will be plenty of goodies for the LG soon enough once it gets a bit more market penetration. I myself have the phone on order but won't be getting it until next week or later (hoping it arrives before christmas x (>.<) x [fingers crossed]). Just give it some time.
2)Most assuredly! The eXpo has quite the winning combo of hardware features. I'm most excited about the touch sensor, no more trackball nightmares! Nevermind the cool stuff that can be done with the projector.
3)I think you just need to be patient. You are on the bleeding edge of tech, it's going to take the community a little while to catch up esp considering the holiday season. All these wonderful programmers and ROM chefs have families too.
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I'm actually waiting on mine too. I was told I should get it on Tuesday. I've read everything I can on the eXpo and that was what made me choose that over the Tilt2 (TP2). If anything just for the 1ghz processor. I'm using a Tilt right now with a sakajati hyperdragonIV Mega rom and it runs ...ok I guess. I'm running SPB mobile shell on top instead of manilla and it's running a lot faster. If the S-Class interface isn't to my liking (which I'm sure it will be) I'll probably just install the SPB mobile shell if I can. I'm sure it would look pretty sweet on the higher res screen.
Keep the Monaco. Like others have said before me, it's a great phone and more "goodies" will come out in (hopefully) not too long. It's so new here in the states that I can't even find accessories specifically for it. Not even a case. Hell I can't even find where I can buy the projector. I'd get that now if I could. lol (Cubicle movies at work lol )

meh
I was told I should get it on Tuesday.
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Totally Jealous. I bought mine from amazon full price, they say I won't get it until at least the 23. Just ditched my G1, Android is crap IMHO. This will be my first WinMo phone and I'm looking forward to it. I'm new to this flashing thing but it looks like a lot of fun, I've allways held off getting a smart phone until the browsers improved and they certainly have come a long way recently. Looking forward to winmo7 and IE9.

Did this ROM get dumped yet?
I was going to go to the store and dump one of the phone's roms from there for MightyMike and Juggalo_X at PPCGeeks. If this guy is doing it then I'm sure Astain will pass it on to those two.

Trust me don't go back to a sluggish msm72xxx cause your going to regret it, just be patient rom cooking will come, probably in the coming months, so just keep it and try installing htc cabs on it.

If you really miss touchflo, look for throttlelauncher with a skin, its free and does the same thing, and is more customizable. Of course, the touchflo tweaks will not work for it

arasarn said:
Did this ROM get dumped yet?
I was going to go to the store and dump one of the phone's roms from there for MightyMike and Juggalo_X at PPCGeeks. If this guy is doing it then I'm sure Astain will pass it on to those two.
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With a little help, I will dump this ROM...looking for the tools, and will try to do it tonight.

Dump My Phone
stimpson said:
With a little help, I will dump this ROM...looking for the tools, and will try to do it tonight.
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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36062
follow the procedure in the first post on that thread. pm me your msn if you have it.

liking it much better
cmstackar said:
If you really miss touchflo, look for throttlelauncher with a skin, its free and does the same thing, and is more customizable. Of course, the touchflo tweaks will not work for it
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thanks for the tip...but as time goes on I am getting to like the S-class UI better and better!
This is a phone that was hard to like at first, but grows on you FAST!

I will jump in there and say I will be working for custom roms as soon as I get mine so damn I cant wait to get it... Hows the rom dump coming?

setimpson got some errors when he tried to dump it.
it may not function the same way as the htc phones.

arasarn said:
setimpson got some errors when he tried to dump it.
it may not function the same way as the htc phones.
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what exactly are the errors he got?

meh
Mine is shipping out tomarrow! Can't wait! Should be getting it Monday.

If I could design my own phone...

Maybe this phone exists somewhere but if so, I haven't found it - and not for lack of searching. It all started with a 2007 Shadow. I loved the slim size and slide-out form factor, could live with WinMo if I had to but hated the 2.0 mp camera and non-touch screen.
I've tried the Incite, the Kaiser and currently use a G1 for day to day but none of them made me as happy as my Shadow. Part of it's because if I need to make a call I don't like the touch screen dialer. Another factor is the Blackberry-like keyboard arrangement on the Shadow - I really liked it. (I could never master texting using the usual numeric keys.) It's too cumbersome to pop out the G1 or Tilt keyboard, especially dealing with stupid automated phone systems.
I like HTC phones a lot because of the community but am beginning to wonder if somewhere out there is a phone better suited for me. I'd like to stay in the Android fold but does anyone have any suggestions? Has to be GSM and unlockable because I use a weird local carrier, too, although I might consider going back to Sprint (gag) for the perfect phone.
Terry

The Palm Pre might suit you...although there is always more to get out your device when you are running WinMo or Android on an HTC device. WebOS is fantastic but you're stuck with what they give you.

chambo622 said:
The Palm Pre might suit you...although there is always more to get out your device when you are running WinMo or Android on an HTC device. WebOS is fantastic but you're stuck with what they give you.
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I played with a Pre at a local kiosk and was impressed by how nice it was but not enough better than the G1 to go back to Sprint. Now if the GSM version becomes more affordable and available, maybe...
Thanks,
Terry - now if I could just do a camera transplant on a touch dual

It would be something like this:
VGA 4" screen
From factor like HTC Universal
2ghz processor
1gb RAM
Hardware keyboard
Slim nice design
Made by HTC
A mix of Universal, Rhodium and Leo
I guess I have to wait till 2011 or 2012...

I remember reading that android was working quite well on the HTC Nike a while back. That's the same slide format as the shadow.

jez83uk said:
I remember reading that android was working quite well on the HTC Nike a while back. That's the same slide format as the shadow.
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It is so very close, but I'm spoiled by the ability to do bar code scanning with the G1. AFAIK, the 2.0 cameras can't do that - which is why I made the comment about the camera transplant. I guess I could look into the port a little closer to see if they made it work or not.
Terry