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Kernel source still not available!

HTC has just released the kernel source for the Legend and the Incredible, but they have skipped the Desire ...
http://developer.htc.com/
seems a bit strange to me. Any ideas about the suitable of the Legend vs the Desire?
Regards

I'm not seeing any new posts on http://developer.htc.com.
I guess if something for the Incredible and Legend was posted, it was probably by mistake and has subsequently been removed.
Regards,
Dave

are u behind a proxy?
Droid Incredible by HTC(Verizon) Kernel Source Code 56.0 MB 2010/04/30
Droid Eris MR by HTC (Verizon) Kernel Source Code 56.3 MB 2010/04/30
HTC Legend Kernel Source Code 56.0 MB 2010/04/30
refresh yout page

foxmeister said:
I'm not seeing any new posts on http://developer.htc.com.
I guess if something for the Incredible and Legend was posted, it was probably by mistake and has subsequently been removed.
Regards,
Dave
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They're back up now but no desire source

they was not there a minute ago, they are there now
This is good news, as i cant see them, releasing everything but the Desire's Kernel, It means we will see a Kernel at some point))))

I think that HTC's website must be geo-locating by IP. If I go to their site with a US IP, I can see the additional downloads, but they are still unavailable via my UK IP address.
Regards,
Dave

The kernel might be very similar to the incredible one.

im in the uk and i can see it ok

Something is strange, because the link for the Droid Eris MR by HTC (Verizon) is http://member.america.htc.com/download/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/desirec_2.6.29_8a03cb9a.tar.bz2.
So why do they call ist ....desirec_2.6.29_8a03cb9a.tar.bz2?

allla said:
Something is strange, because the link for the Droid Eris MR by HTC (Verizon) is http://member.america.htc.com/download/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/desirec_2.6.29_8a03cb9a.tar.bz2.
So why do they call ist ....desirec_2.6.29_8a03cb9a.tar.bz2?
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It's not strange, the HTC Desire is codenamed Bravo. The Droid Eris is codenamed Desire. Confusing, but not strange.

deovferreira said:
It's not strange, the HTC Desire is codenamed Bravo. The Droid Eris is codenamed Desire. Confusing, but not strange.
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You're right - not confusion, but strange ;-)

JupiterDroid said:
they was not there a minute ago, they are there now
This is good news, as i cant see them, releasing everything but the Desire's Kernel, It means we will see a Kernel at some point))))
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They don't really have a choice, actually, they do have to follow the GPL under which it is licensed.
In fact, if they DID really follow that license correctly, we should have received the sources (or at least a link to the sources) with the device.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License#Terms_and_conditions
The fourth section for version 2 of the license and the seventh section of version 3 require that programs distributed as pre-compiled binaries are accompanied by a copy of the source code, a written offer to distribute the source code via the same mechanism as the pre-compiled binary or the written offer to obtain the source code that you got when you received the pre-compiled binary under the GPL.
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At http://developer.htc.com/ they have released the kernel for Incredible, Droid ERIS and the Legend, after asking HTC about Desire version they have answered with:
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Dear Mr.Gomez Thank you for contacting HTC. Kindly note that as Desire and Legend are both running Android 2.1 "Eclair". Besides that both of them are having almost same specefications, that's why we released only one of them. If you have any other inquiries, don’t hesitate to contact us again. Please note that you can contact us via support line. For further details, please go to http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx , Thank you so much for using HTC products. Respect & Regards, HTC Team http://www.htc.com
So I suppose that we can consider http://member.america.htc.com/download/Rom...3be9c9c.tar.bz2 to be the final kernel for the HTC Desire. :-D
Regards

The same specifications? oO
They don't even have the same CPU, let alone the same chipsets...

I have just posted this to MoDaCo :-D They answer me with this "they have the same specifications" so I suppose that the kernel is the same for both, I mean they use the same source with different configuration (depending on the chipset, cpu, etc).
Regards

The differences from the base (standard linux) 2.6.29 kernel:
Legend: 914 files more than 1.4M bzipped diff file
Incredible: 941 files more than 1.4M bzipped diff file
The differences between both kernels are less than that, 252 files and about 250K bzipped diff file.
Regards,

Mmmh sounds kinda weird..one would think that if for some reason the kernels of Legend and Desire were somehow the same, HTC would have added at least a tiny note on their developer page specifying so...

Legend same specifications as Desire? strange
for what I know Incredible is very close to nexus one and desire

kewell79 said:
At http://developer.htc.com/ they have released the kernel for Incredible, Droid ERIS and the Legend, after asking HTC about Desire version they have answered with:
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Dear Mr.Gomez Thank you for contacting HTC. Kindly note that as Desire and Legend are both running Android 2.1 "Eclair". Besides that both of them are having almost same specefications, that's why we released only one of them. If you have any other inquiries, don’t hesitate to contact us again. Please note that you can contact us via support line. For further details, please go to http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx , Thank you so much for using HTC products. Respect & Regards, HTC Team http://www.htc.com
So I suppose that we can consider http://member.america.htc.com/download/Rom...3be9c9c.tar.bz2 to be the final kernel for the HTC Desire. :-D
Regards
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That is unacceptable and a gross violation of the GPL.
HTC did not release the kernel source because the Desire is rootable and having the kernel would allow us to override their pathetic security (which is, by the way, cracked already).
The bravo board files are NOT in there!

Fully Agreed. So what's the next play ?
Warn GPL-Violations ? FTF ? Google ? (do Google even care ?)

Froyo source code released

Better get crackin'
Google has just released AOSP 2.2!!!!
http://developer.android.com/index.html

BenjRubenstein said:
Better get crackin'
Google has just released AOSP 2.2!!!!
http://developer.android.com/index.html
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YESSSSS!!!!!!!

Wrong board.

Ha ha. Wrong board but I was waiting to see this here anyway. For the record, I'm cloning the source to my dev server as we speak
Edit: Looks like the drop isn't completed yet as my cloning has stalled lol

Now if Google could somehow force HTC to give us source then we would-be in heaven right now

bcnice20 said:
Now if Google could somehow force HTC to give us source then we would-be in heaven right now
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yeah, the camera is going to need source to get it fully functional. At least 4g shouldn't be a problem now since wimax is built into source.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708954
FAIL !! sir

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Just saw that ICS source is being posted, so hope to see a lot of developer activity in the coming days.
https://groups.google.com/group/and...242667a85f/c0e01b4619a1455a?#c0e01b4619a1455a
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I'm sure you'll be all over it.

I can't wait to see this ported to our Heros!
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xDragod said:
I'm sure you'll be all over it.
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Hope he can give us something to play with on our old Hero.

Smelt it dealt it, right?
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Ice cream sandwich with jaybob sprinkles, mmm.
nandroids are for
sissies

Whoever ports it, this gon' be gewd!
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Hero for development
I have a hero that I would give to any dev working towards ICS for the Heroc. Anyone interested?

Source is coming so no need to put pressure on us
||self proclaimed resident prick||

I'm currently downloading source Hope to play with it soon! My little Hero is gonna get an upgrade ;D Too bad it's not activated

dastin1015 said:
I'm currently downloading source Hope to play with it soon! My little Hero is gonna get an upgrade ;D Too bad it's not activated
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the code isn't completely on the git servers yet? I heard devs should wait for the OK that everything is ready.

xDragod said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the code isn't completely on the git servers yet? I heard devs should wait for the OK that everything is ready.
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Here is the OK
https://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/cb467ea7026679e2

dastin1015 said:
Here is the OK
https://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/cb467ea7026679e2
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Awesome! Good luck! I know you'll all do us proud.

Heck, I'll throw $10 to the first (good/halfway stable) ICS ROM for my hero. You heard it here.

dastin1015 said:
Here is the OK
https://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/cb467ea7026679e2
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DLing source currently also

Yeah finally I can't wait to taste some ICS
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hah, i came in here ready to flame cuz I figured it was an ICS request posted in the Dev section
xD then I saw it was jaybob

I want this, but im not asking for it. I want to do this on my own... JA!!! wouldn't even know how to start.
Sad part is i really do want to do this on my own. No need to wish good louck. Yall have crazy skills.
It will get done.

dastin1015 said:
Here is the OK
https://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/cb467ea7026679e2
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Your gonna rape this I know it

Well I got the source synced and I moved some of the heroc stuff from cyanogenmod but still having some problems with lunch.
Code:
build/core/combo/TARGET_linux-arm.mk:39: *** Unknown ARM architecture version: armv6j. Stop.
Looks like it'll take a little more work before getting it to compile. I haven't had time to look at anything yet, took forever to get the source. But looks like we might have to port it to armv6 as google only worked on armv7 builds. I'll work on it more tonight, but I'm sure the real devs will have it compiling by then

[SOON] Kernel Source Getting Released?

Hi guys,
I recently complained to htcdev about the kernel source not being released and I threatened legal action as they are in violation of GPL. Here is what they came back with:
Dear Rohan Mathur,
Thank you for contacting HTC. I will gladly assist you with your request for the kernel source code for your HTC One X.
New source codes are typically posted to the HTC developer site within 90-120 days after a new device is released or after an update is released for the phone. In most cases it will not take this long for the source code to be made available Rohan. The kernel source code for teh One X will be posted as soon as we have it ready for the developer community.
Please check back from time to time on the developer site for the One X source code. HTC does their best to make the kernel source code available as soon as possible for all HTC devotees and android enthusiasts. For more information and other developer resources, be sure to check other areas of our developer site from http://www.htcdev.com/ .
I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause Rohan, and I hope that this will not detract from your overall use and enjoyment of the One X until the kernel source code is made available. Thank you for your patience and understanding in this matter.
If you have other questions for me Rohan, please don't hesitate to reply. We are open from 6am to 1am eastern time, 7 days a week. Please include your serial number or IMEI from menu> settings> about> phone identity> with all support requests.
Take care Rohan, and have a great weekend!
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I'm kind of suprised that an actual human responded to me and didn't just send me the generic answer (notice the typo of "teh" instead of "the")
Anyway, this leads me to believe that it will be soon. 30 days of those 90-120 are almost done, so lets hope that it comes soon!

rohan32 said:
Hi guys,
I recently complained to htcdev about the kernel source not being released and I threatened legal action as they are in violation of GPL. Here is what they came back with:
I'm kind of suprised that an actual human responded to me and didn't just send me the generic answer (notice the typo of "teh" instead of "the")
Anyway, this leads me to believe that it will be soon. 30 days of those 90-120 are almost done, so lets hope that it comes soon!
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I hate to break it to you, but I saw this same response posted a few weeks ago. We've gotta be getting closer though!
Billy
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I'm sure AT&T is making them hold out until the last minute legally possible.

jmattp said:
I'm sure AT&T is making them hold out until the last minute legally possible.
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I don't understand why AT&T would do that. What's in it for them to make then wait? Eventually it will be released. I mean I just can't understand who the are trying to screw but not releasing it. It can't be developers because they wouldn't want to lose sales. I'm sure they don't care who buys the phone, developer or not.
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So, once the kernel source is released do we know if we'll have franciscofranco and faux123 kernels for the ATT One X just like over on the international One X side?

dont give them your sn and imei lol...
i say...we gonna get another month of two..

please disregard

HTC is holding out as long as possible so Apple can't get their hands on it till the last second.

Does the us htc one x run on the gingerbread kernel like the international one?

bmbrad said:
Does the us htc one x run on the gingerbread kernel like the international one?
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No, it runs the ICS kernel, version 3.0.8.

Tikerz said:
So, once the kernel source is released do we know if we'll have franciscofranco and faux123 kernels for the ATT One X just like over on the international One X side?
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If the developers want to port their kernels over, sure
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htc jelly bean kernel source info

I emailed HTC's open source department about kernel source and this is the email I gotHTC
to me
Dear Dustin Stoker,
Hey, Dustin, thanks for contacting us about the kernal source for the One XL. In regards to this, getting that phones source code is something we are working on getting up. I know this is something that is being worked on and we don't just want to put up flawed software for the development community to use. So we want it to be as close to perfect and include the patches to previous problems we've run into as well. So, that is why that we don't really have an ETA at this point. I thank you for your patience with us in this and I hope you have a great day!
Hope it comes soon.

same typical
automated email response

Ya I figured that was the case hope it comes soon they gotta comply with linux open source laws if they released it the talented devs on hear could probably fix it before them lol

xstokerx said:
Ya I figured that was the case hope it comes soon they gotta comply with linux open source laws if they released it the talented devs on hear could probably fix it before them lol
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soon as in month and month and month from now

CheesyNutz said:
soon as in month and month and month from now
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Yep usually how it is

xstokerx said:
I emailed HTC's open source department about kernel source and this is the email I gotHTC
to me
Dear Dustin Stoker,
Hey, Dustin, thanks for contacting us about the kernal source for the One XL. In regards to this, getting that phones source code is something we are working on getting up. I know this is something that is being worked on and we don't just want to put up flawed software for the development community to use. So we want it to be as close to perfect and include the patches to previous problems we've run into as well. So, that is why that we don't really have an ETA at this point. I thank you for your patience with us in this and I hope you have a great day!
Hope it comes soon.
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Um, if this is an official response from HTC, they have horrible spelling, grammar and sentence formation.
It also seems highly unlikely that a paid developer spelled "kernel" wrong.
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Here's HTC's standard response:
Dear $YOUR_NAME
Thank you for contacting HTC regarding Kernel Source code. I know that this code is important to the development community and I will be happy to assist you with the correct information regarding this.
HTC is committed to assisting customers in getting kernel source code for HTC devices. We will release source code in accordance with any applicable open source license terms. We are working to release appropriate kernel code bases as soon as possible after device launch but we cannot guarantee the exact time frame. Other source codes, which are not required to be disclosed by the open source license terms, unfortunately cannot be disclosed by HTC as they may be proprietary to HTC or its licensor.
Please keep an eye on http://developer.htc.com for more information. I hope you enjoy the rest of your week, $YOUR_NAME.
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