WinMo 6.1, Messaging and VPN - General Questions and Answers

I have a Windows Mobile device 6.1 Pro.
I have Messaging setup to collect my personal emails from the Internet via my HSDPA connection.
I also have an account for my work email (POP3) which I collect via the company VPN.
This is my problem, and it's something I've lived with for a long time as I don't think it can be changed. Maybe you guys can help.
I open Messaging and switch to my work email account. I have the Network Connection set to use 'Work' Settings, and in the Work settings I have my VPN connection.
If I open Settings, Connections and click and hold on the VPN settings I can connect manually. Now I have a VPN connection and I can send and receive mail.
However, I want to be able to Send/Receive and for this to be automatic, so when I do this, if there's no 3G, it connects first, then the VPN connection is triggered, and the connection is established - however, in the mean time Messaging has gone off to try to find email from my work servers on the Internet, and always fails obviously. If I Send/Receive again, it connects right away as the VPN connection is already established from the first attempt. Email is sent and recieved as you would expect.
My problem is Messaging doesn't wait long enough for the VPN connection to be established, and although it triggers it, it tried to collect email before it's finished connecting, then I have to try again.
Or connect the VPN manually, but this is many clicks and not so User Friendly for staff who aren't so WinMo savvy.
Is there a way to have Messaging wait long enough for all relevant connections to be established before trying to find the mail server??

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Polaris Partially Connecting

I have my brand spankin' new TC on Rogers here in canada. Ran the auto connection wizard, great! I have Internet! But I get the cannot connect error every time i send or receive email using outlook. I have tried everything I know, is there something you can suggest? It works fine over WIFI, and ActiveSync via USB. But over the 3G there is nothing!
OK, I figured it out.
For future reference.
When your setting up the email account, do it manually as opposed to allowing the auto set up to happen. And at the outgoing mail server screen select advanced options and make sure it connects to your carrier (In my case "Rogers Internet") internet connection.

No internet using USB to PC

Apologies if this has already been asked/answered, but have spent the last two days looking for a solution..
When connected via USB I cannot establish an internet connection, unless I delete the T-Mobile proxy setting.
I've applied the regedit edit that's been mentioned as a solution, but this didn't work.
Is there anyway to use the pass through connection without having to delete the proxy everytime?
The main annoyance is that the phone won't sync with my exchange server whilst connected to the PC. I have mail set up to sync with exchange server and all other items syncing with my PC. My Hermes sync'ed with anything and everything.
Thanks
just leave the proxy out.
T-Mobile's proxy is a pain in the arse and causes all sorts of problems.
I deleted the proxy from my connection on t-mobile nearly three years ago and on every single device i have had since. never had a problem since.
If the proxy is there, it affects ALL internet connections, so when you plug it in to your PC, it is trying to go through a Proxy that you can only access over GPRS.
that's why proxies are a PITA and should be deleted permanently.
and no, it should not affect anyhting if you delete it. or not that i have noticed anyway.
Thanks will give it a go when I get home.
Seem to be able to access internet without the proxy, but forgot my usb cable so can't test pass though at work.. fingers crossed!
When I deleted the proxy I couldn't then send SMS texts...?
That's a completely random coincidence. The proxy has nothing to do with SMS whatsoever.
you can of course make sure that you are using GSM for SMS. start>settings>connections>advanced network>SMS
set it to GSM. if this is already set, then it has nothing to do with the proxy.
Says "Your text message cannot be sent" after I removed the proxy. SMS is set to GSM. Could it have altered any other relevant settings? Have put the proxy back now but it still refuses to send the message.
Any ideas?
no, wouldn't have changed anything else. The proxy has no bearing on SMS whatsoever.
Like i said, i reckon it is just a coincidence, otherwise turning the proxy back on would have fixed it.
If it is set to GSM already try the other three settings as well.
and a soft reset of course....
Have found a cable and tested - still no joy after deleting proxy.
Connecting to PC, and items syncing with host PC are fine. Mail syncing with Exchange server fails and can't access internet via pass through.
Browsing and syncing with the exchange server is fine when not connected to the PC.
Btw kempas - SMS works fine after deleting the proxy setting, as it should do.
Steve
on the handset:
start>settings>connections>wifi (NOT Wireless LAN)> network adapters
set the drop down box to Internet.
On the PC:
Open Activesync>File>Connection Settings
Set "This computer connects to" to the internet.
Dunno what it is in vista, i have avoided it like the plague....
I did a soft reset and tried again (a couple of time) with no luck, unable to send text message.
Went to settings, connections and run through the network provider setup wizard, let it reset the phone and tried again. Settings 'seemed' all the same but SMS now sent without issue.
Will try removing the proxy again later and testing with another SMS.
EDIT: removed the proxy and sent an SMS without issue this time... So was a "completely random coincidence" as rhedgehog said.
Still can't access You Tube via it's mobile client though, at least, it still says no videos...
All now appears to do what I expect after removing proxy and following rhedgehog's advice. Pass through now works Many thanks!
Also appeared that the t-mobile proxy blocks Windows live and messenger
stevecg said:
All now appears to do what I expect after removing proxy and following rhedgehog's advice. Pass through now works Many thanks!
Also appeared that the t-mobile proxy blocks Windows live and messenger
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Are you on wnw+??
mrvanx said:
Are you on wnw+??
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Just Web N Walk I believe, not plus, so I guess messenger is a no no. Will bypassing their proxy end up with me being charged for data??
stevecg said:
Just Web N Walk I believe, not plus. Will bypassing their proxy to use messenger end up with me being charged for data??
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No, but it is against the t&cs to use IM software when on basic web n walk. Tmobile block the ports for IM software anyways, it seems for new customers since several old customers managed to get through.....i never could though, so the proxy would make no difference if it is on or off.
I personally am on wnw+ which is TOTALLY worth it for using the HSPA when out with my laptop on location.
Cheers for that. Won't really need messenger to be honest - but the proxy setting interfering with the pass through was annoying.
kempas said:
Still can't access You Tube via it's mobile client though, at least, it still says no videos...
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Log into My T-Mobile or call customer services and get the adult content filter turned off.
I think they blocked it to prevent kids blowing mummy and daddy's credit on watching videos.
Of course, Streaming is also against the T&C's of wnw standard, so it could be that this is why. I'm on wnw+ and had to turn off the filter to get it working.
Yep, that was it. Cheers for the reply...

Email and EDGE

For some reason my email doesnt work with edge, only wifi. when i try to send/recieve my email without wifi it says "cannot connect with current connection settings. I tried searching and found nothing. Anyone have any ideas. Oh I have a fuze by the way
Email via Operator..
FUZEinMYpants said:
For some reason my email doesnt work with edge, only wifi. when i try to send/recieve my email without wifi it says "cannot connect with current connection settings. I tried searching and found nothing. Anyone have any ideas. Oh I have a fuze by the way
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Do you need to download this?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...amp;tm#filelist
FUZEinMYpants said:
For some reason my email doesnt work with edge, only wifi. when i try to send/recieve my email without wifi it says "cannot connect with current connection settings. I tried searching and found nothing. Anyone have any ideas. Oh I have a fuze by the way
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have u correct settings? try use built in setting configurator then restart.
i have the same issue. but i think it is normal becuase i dont think you can download email from edge, only 3g.
tengtou said:
i have the same issue. but i think it is normal becuase i dont think you can download email from edge, only 3g.
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Thats not true because I have a at&t fuze and download email on edge all the time.
server?
FUZEinMYpants said:
For some reason my email doesnt work with edge, only wifi. when i try to send/recieve my email without wifi it says "cannot connect with current connection settings. I tried searching and found nothing. Anyone have any ideas. Oh I have a fuze by the way
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FUZEinMYpants,
Are you using a large outfit like gmail or something like your company email? If the latter, does it only work on wifi when you are on your company's wifi network or Starbucks' wifis as well?
The reason I'm asking is that depending on the email servers (there are two, one for sending, the other for receiving mostly) you may only be able to interact with them if your coming from an IP address that falls within the range of whatever the administrator set. I for example could not send email when I went down to Florida because AT&T gave me a too different IP address than what I get in New York so I had to ssh into my email server and modify the range.
Your admin may only allow email to be relayed out and/or read if you're on the LAN which in this case, in your office or college on their wifi network connected to the local area network to which the mail servers are connected.
If that's not it then we may have a connectivity problem with your settings. Maybe a bad proxy configuration, your email server doesn't like wap.cingular which is behind a nat, maybe your email server requires a type of encryption you're either not specifying or is not supported by Pocket Outlook, maybe they're using imap and not pop and you're mixing that up, maybe they don't have encryption but they used funky ports for the vanilla protocols -- I'm going to stop typing until you tell me what the story is with your email setup.
In the meantime, to hold yourself over with the phone and without wifi, consider getting your mail through a webmail thing your server may run (I run roundcube) using Opera or PIE, depending on the webmail interface.
Doug
d0ugie said:
FUZEinMYpants,
Are you using a large outfit like gmail or something like your company email? If the latter, does it only work on wifi when you are on your company's wifi network or Starbucks' wifis as well?
The reason I'm asking is that depending on the email servers (there are two, one for sending, the other for receiving mostly) you may only be able to interact with them if your coming from an IP address that falls within the range of whatever the administrator set. I for example could not send email when I went down to Florida because AT&T gave me a too different IP address than what I get in New York so I had to ssh into my email server and modify the range.
Your admin may only allow email to be relayed out and/or read if you're on the LAN which in this case, in your office or college on their wifi network connected to the local area network to which the mail servers are connected.
If that's not it then we may have a connectivity problem with your settings. Maybe a bad proxy configuration, your email server doesn't like wap.cingular which is behind a nat, maybe your email server requires a type of encryption you're either not specifying or is not supported by Pocket Outlook, maybe they're using imap and not pop and you're mixing that up, maybe they don't have encryption but they used funky ports for the vanilla protocols -- I'm going to stop typing until you tell me what the story is with your email setup.
In the meantime, to hold yourself over with the phone and without wifi, consider getting your mail through a webmail thing your server may run (I run roundcube) using Opera or PIE, depending on the webmail interface.
Doug
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Its yahoo mail. My company email which is an outlook exchange server works fine on wifi or edge.
FUZEinMYpants said:
For some reason my email doesnt work with edge, only wifi. when i try to send/recieve my email without wifi it says "cannot connect with current connection settings. I tried searching and found nothing. Anyone have any ideas. Oh I have a fuze by the way
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Check the setting in your email settings under advanced server settings and make sure that it says Netowrk conncetion media net or att isp. I have seen it default to Work and that locks it into Wifi. I send and recieve email everyday on EDGE since I do not have 3g within 40 miles of here.
Dane Austin said:
Check the setting in your email settings under advanced server settings and make sure that it says Netowrk conncetion media net or att isp. I have seen it default to Work and that locks it into Wifi. I send and recieve email everyday on EDGE since I do not have 3g within 40 miles of here.
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I checked this its set to media net

Proxy at work does not work on FUZE

I tried all the options but no avail:
Disabled proxy with builtin cab
Used Advance Config Tool & Diamond Tweak to disable 3g
Increase Power to WIFI
Enter the proxy credentials properly
Select WORK in the connections
I am connected to the network through the WEP key. I have an IP address.
But the thing the intrigues me the most is that I cannot hit outside with Opera or IE unless is the Intranet. BUT, I can hit my comcast email throught the email tabs>inbox>send receive. This email account is from the outside. How the hell? The network guy said that I have all the credentials properly entered and that I should be hitting outside throught the proxy. What gives?
Ok, so I got it to half of it to work.
Disabled proxy through CAB
Enter proxy credentials to "My Work Network"
Network adapters>card>"the internet"
SSID>Connects to>"work"
Applications that use internet connect with: My work network
I can connect to the internet outside now, but I cant update my email accounts that are in the outside. Only if I change my SSID to connect to the internet, then email works again, but internet doesnt.
Anyone that has gone through this crap please post something.
Thanks.
Well, I knew it was to soon to scream victory.
It now appears that I have to have IExplorer running in the background to be able to surf through Opera and use Google Maps. If I dont have IE open, then I get prompts from the proxy in Opera and Network problems in G-Maps. This is just too freaking weird. What shagging combination is going to make everything work!?!?!?!?!?!?!

WinMo 6.1, Messaging and VPN

I have a Windows Mobile device 6.1 Pro.
I have Messaging setup to collect my personal emails from the Internet via my HSDPA connection.
I also have an account for my work email (POP3) which I collect via the company VPN.
This is my problem, and it's something I've lived with for a long time as I don't think it can be changed. Maybe you guys can help.
I open Messaging and switch to my work email account. I have the Network Connection set to use 'Work' Settings, and in the Work settings I have my VPN connection.
If I open Settings, Connections and click and hold on the VPN settings I can connect manually. Now I have a VPN connection and I can send and receive mail.
However, I want to be able to Send/Receive and for this to be automatic, so when I do this, if there's no 3G, it connects first, then the VPN connection is triggered, and the connection is established - however, in the mean time Messaging has gone off to try to find email from my work servers on the Internet, and always fails obviously. If I Send/Receive again, it connects right away as the VPN connection is already established from the first attempt. Email is sent and recieved as you would expect.
My problem is Messaging doesn't wait long enough for the VPN connection to be established, and although it triggers it, it tried to collect email before it's finished connecting, then I have to try again.
Or connect the VPN manually, but this is many clicks and not so User Friendly for staff who aren't so WinMo savvy.
Is there a way to have Messaging wait long enough for all relevant connections to be established before trying to find the mail server??

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