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Does anyone know if there is an application (EXE file) within WM6 or WM5 that executes the "programs" and "settings" list, without tapping the Start button?
Also, on a soft reset, how can you make a single application load everytime?
Thanks...
bradsnw said:
Does anyone know if there is an application (EXE file) within WM6 or WM5 that executes the "programs" and "settings" list, without tapping the Start button?
Also, on a soft reset, how can you make a single application load everytime?
Thanks...
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Anyone? I am sure there is a simple solution that I am overlooking. With a little help here I can fix a couple of problems with an iPhone emulator that can be incorporated into any WM6 Rom. I am currently running this now, but these fixes would make it perfect, and would almost do away with the Windows Mobile today screen. I am pretty amazed with this so far, The new iPhone today screen perfectly mathes what you would see on the apple website, and I am not noticing any signifigant lag time between apps that are loaded this way.
To make an application load on a soft reset, just place it in the windows/start up folder or place a link to it in that folder.
bradsnw said:
Does anyone know if there is an application (EXE file) within WM6 or WM5 that executes the "programs" and "settings" list, without tapping the Start button?
Also, on a soft reset, how can you make a single application load everytime?
Thanks...
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not directly.... they are linked to explorer.exe and the shell....and of course the registry.....if my memory serves me rigth.
faria said:
not directly.... they are linked to explorer.exe and the shell....and of course the registry.....if my memory serves me rigth.
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Faria, memory cannot serve you right. You are already at 97% capacity and the only way to get the information you require is to do a soft reset at which point you will get down to 75%. Or in the alternation upgrade.....
Is this the emulator you are talking about?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301517
Did you find out how to start the functioning of program from icon.
I cannot find the explorer.exe in the rom
samy.3660 said:
Did you find out how to start the functioning of program from icon.
I cannot find the explorer.exe in the rom
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Nothing as of yet. Without recompiling the software, each button on the iPhone today screen requires an .exe file, executable, to launch that particular service or program. To make things easy, I wanted to know how to create an exectuable file that will launch contacts, programs folder, and settings folder, with these, the normal WM6 today screen would not be needed anymore.
So Far....
So far....
Wow, those screens look cool already
Any idea when a first beta will be ready (if you are gonna release it)?
matthijst said:
Wow, those screens look cool already
Any idea when a first beta will be ready (if you are gonna release it)?
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I have figured out how to link to Outlook Contacts, I am just having troubles getting settings and programs to pull up. Wven with creating shortcuts to them
well if you want settings like for example the task manager then a call to this would bring it up:
ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,4,2
Didn't want to leave you hanging so I ran a quick search here to see if it has a list and here's something that should steer you in a direction...that is if this is what you wanted:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289005
that doesnt help, you know how to add a shortcut to start start menu
Here's a similar app:
http://rychlicki.net/en/2007/04/01/174/
http://rychlicki.net/inne/res_ppc-custom.icons.zip
Clock doesnt work there though
Maybe a strange topic title but this is what I mean:
When I have PocketInformant running for example in the background, it opens instantly when it is selected from a TaskManager like pBar (wich I use). When I want to acces the programm using a normal shortcut from my startmenu it has some delay before it opens.
Does anybody have any tips or ideas about this?
You kinda answered your question yourself. If it running already it doesnt need to be loaded....
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You kinda answered your question yourself. If it running already it doesnt need to be loaded....
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You are correct. But I wanted to know why a programm opens instantly when you open it using a task manager. While opening it using the StartMenu takes more time, In both cases the programms are already running in the background
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You are correct. But I wanted to know why a programm opens instantly when you open it using a task manager. While opening it using the StartMenu takes more time, In both cases the programms are already running in the background
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I actually do understand your question because I noticed that too. When a program is alreading running in the background minimized and if you select it using a task manager of choice, it opens up quickly since it was just minimized where as if your where to go through programs menu and run the program shortcut again, there is some delay. I think it is because its closing the program or checking if it is already running that is causing the delay. Don't know for sure actually
i'm not sure if it works the same way as in desktop windows, but here it isl like that...
when you want to code a program that can be launched only once you put a specific section in program's startup part, that checks wether another copy of the process isn't already running, if no is found application starts normally, if it finds previously launched copy it terminates.
now i'm not sure how does it work here in wm5/6 as it happens with all the programs, so probably it is more os dependant, but if i'm right the delay comes from the fact that taping a shortcut actually runs the program again in the first place...
banannq is absolutely correct. This is how things work in WM as well.
When you click a link to the program or its exe file directly from file explorer it is launched again even if it is already running.
If this is a big app like Skype or PI it will take time just to load the exe so even if all it has to do is close right away there is still a delay.
The task manager however calls the program copy already running directly so there is no delay.
Thanks for the explanation!
Now I understand what was driving me mad
So opening programms from a TaskManager is the fastest way to work with you PPC. Or maybe run a today plugin that has a running programms line. I believe the O2 plugin has this kind of functionality.
WisBar Lite and MagicButton (both free) add a running programs icon list to the top menu bar so you can more quickly task swap.
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WisBar Lite and MagicButton (both free) add a running programs icon list to the top menu bar so you can more quickly task swap.
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I use pBar for this, works like a charm
The funny thing is - this is exactly the kind of thinking that brought M$ to create the ever so hated "smart minimize" concept and spawn a hoard of "close button / task manager" applications like magic button.
It is nice when programs start right away, but the trouble is RAM on WM devices is still stuck on at very low limit. Now, if we had devices with 256 or more MB of RAM we probably would not need to close apps.
So i purchased my Fuze on Monday, and its my first WM device.
Overall its a great device and i like it more than my iPhone.
Ive been recently trying to customize it and ive downloaded nice TF3D themes, and done some registry editting to change the sliding sound.
What i want to know is if there is another way to make the Fuze run and perform alot faster than how it runs out of the Box.
I did some of the performance TWEAKS that i found on a Touch Pro thread. and that worked. But is their anything else that you guys would recommend? Maybe deleting unused programs? or idk.
I dont really like, that there is some Lag when switching thru the tabs in TF3d, and the long waits for opening programs.
Mind you, that i dont want to go through the effort of installing a new ROM. Mainly because of the fact that i cant seem to find a perfectly good, tutorial on how to do this.
Thanks
1. Get rid of the bloat by doing a hard reset and then doing a soft reset as soon as you "press the screen to use the device"
Frees up a mega crap-load of memory and you dont have to deal with stupid software ATT tries to sell you.
2. Install Advanced Config 3.3
Increase system memory, enable HSDPA and some other features I cant remember)
3. Install Sushi's Diamond TF3D Config
You can edit TF3D all you want (tabs, programs,order,ect..)
1. Get rid of the bloat by doing a hard reset and then doing a soft reset as soon as you "press the screen to use the device"
Frees up a mega crap-load of memory and you dont have to deal with stupid software ATT tries to sell you.
I dont think i can do this anymore since i already turned on the phone, and i didnt get to do that when i FIRST booted it up...or is this still possible now?
2. Install Advanced Config 3.3
Increase system memory, enable HSDPA and some other features I cant remember)
I installed advanced config, and did some of the tweaks on another thread, but how do i "increase system memory" and wat would HSDPA do to my phones overall speed? or is that just internet speed?
3. Install Sushi's Diamond TF3D Config
You can edit TF3D all you want (tabs, programs,order,ect..)
This is how i installed custom TF3D themes
Alucard_11 said:
1. Get rid of the bloat by doing a hard reset and then doing a soft reset as soon as you "press the screen to use the device"
Frees up a mega crap-load of memory and you dont have to deal with stupid software ATT tries to sell you.
I dont think i can do this anymore since i already turned on the phone, and i didnt get to do that when i FIRST booted it up...or is this still possible now?
2. Install Advanced Config 3.3
Increase system memory, enable HSDPA and some other features I cant remember)
I installed advanced config, and did some of the tweaks on another thread, but how do i "increase system memory" and wat would HSDPA do to my phones overall speed? or is that just internet speed?
3. Install Sushi's Diamond TF3D Config
You can edit TF3D all you want (tabs, programs,order,ect..)
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This is how i installed custom TF3D themes [/QUOTE]
1. You can hard reset and do it at that point.
2. HSDPA will not increase overall speed but it will improve internet.
Ok...having a slight problem finding what I'm looking for, but it looks like it might have been touched upon here, WITHOUT an answer for what I'm looking for.
1. Get rid of the bloat by doing a hard reset and then doing a soft reset as soon as you "press the screen to use the device"
Frees up a mega crap-load of memory and you dont have to deal with stupid software ATT tries to sell you.
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Having had many different PPC phones, I knew from the getgo not to allow the customization to run. The problem with this is, the TF3D application is NOT installed before the customization, but is actually bundled WITH the customization.
I contacted HTC and AT&T about getting the software seperately...needless to say, sorry, we can't help you...reset and install the customization!!
So, what I am looking for, is the TF3D software for the phone, or someway to unlock it from the phone (if possible)?
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Ok...having a slight problem finding what I'm looking for, but it looks like it might have been touched upon here, WITHOUT an answer for what I'm looking for.
Having had many different PPC phones, I knew from the getgo not to allow the customization to run. The problem with this is, the TF3D application is NOT installed before the customization, but is actually bundled WITH the customization.
I contacted HTC and AT&T about getting the software seperately...needless to say, sorry, we can't help you...reset and install the customization!!
So, what I am looking for, is the TF3D software for the phone, or someway to unlock it from the phone (if possible)?
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TF3D is called manilla, search for it!
pghguy1989 said:
Ok...having a slight problem finding what I'm looking for, but it looks like it might have been touched upon here, WITHOUT an answer for what I'm looking for.
Having had many different PPC phones, I knew from the getgo not to allow the customization to run. The problem with this is, the TF3D application is NOT installed before the customization, but is actually bundled WITH the customization.
I contacted HTC and AT&T about getting the software seperately...needless to say, sorry, we can't help you...reset and install the customization!!
So, what I am looking for, is the TF3D software for the phone, or someway to unlock it from the phone (if possible)?
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I posted how to get the TF3D to work without the customization in the Fuze How to skip the bloat thread. You have to open the windows directory with file explorer and install 3 cabs. Cant remember the names at this moment.
Heres the post
Wait...so let me try and understand this...
If one is to do a HARD RESET, and then do a Soft Reset when the "press the screen to use the device" pops up. Then TF3D will not be installed? and will have to be installed separately?!
TF3D is called manilla, search for it!
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Thank you! This is my first time using TF3D. I've seen the options to install the custom ones on my Tilt, etc, but never felt brave enough to get that in depth with it.
I posted how to get the TF3D to work without the customization in the Fuze How to skip the bloat thread. You have to open the windows directory with file explorer and install 3 cabs. Cant remember the names at this moment.
Heres the post
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Fantastic! Thank you!
Wait...so let me try and understand this...
If one is to do a HARD RESET, and then do a Soft Reset when the "press the screen to use the device" pops up. Then TF3D will not be installed? and will have to be installed separately?!
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Correct....because AT&T LOVES to push useless crap on you hoping that you will click on the application and get hooked from there!
Alucard_11 said:
Wait...so let me try and understand this...
If one is to do a HARD RESET, and then do a Soft Reset when the "press the screen to use the device" pops up. Then TF3D will not be installed? and will have to be installed separately?!
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No you just have to add the reg cab in the windows directory. See my previous post in this thread.
Hi - question from a WM newb.
[phone: HTC Fuze. Da_G 1.7 ROM]
What is the best way to remove programs?
I am aware there is a "remove program" function in the settings. Unfortunately, this seems to either:
a) be unable to remove certain programs
b) leave behind remnants of programs after it "uninstalled" it.
For example - I saw there was a google maps update out today which gives you street view. So I went to m.google.com/maps and installed it from there.
It seems to not have updated google maps at all which is what I was led to believe it would do but installed a whole new google maps (shows up as a "e" icon in my programs labeled "java". really annoying - what is that all about?).
I wanted to remove the old google maps and did so via the "remove programs" utility. It left behind the google maps icon which I just deleted from the windows/start menu/programs. I am left wondering though if I removed everything I could or if it left behind any mess that will slow and clutter my phone in the future?
I have searched and people seem to recommend SKtools to do this job. I was led to believe that it will do a better job but I am afraid it might mess with my registry - and registry tweaks seem to be the norm here (I've already done about a million).
Will SKtools leave my registry alone? Does it only remove registry enhancements that have to do with the program in question? Will altering even that mess with how other programs function? etc etc etc.
What is the best way to remove programs? (AND to remove programs that dont appear on the list like the "E" google maps thing)
thx much
the e icon is for the java emulator, the old version was a JAva one, this one is for Windows Mobile
that icon was created by Esmertic (the name of the java cemulator) for shortcut to Google Maps, else you'll have to go fireup the Emualtor first, then selct Google Maps from it
There are many tricks in SKTools, and yess it corrupts ur reg too, you just have to know what you doing..try PocketMechanic a shot too
hope this helps ya
Cheers
so is it pointing towards an online version of google maps or something, hence the reason why i cant find it to delete it in the first place?
thx
the one from "m.maps..." is a java version i guess, there is anew version in cab format here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457376
awesome - thats what i was lookin for!
so if i delete that "e" icon will it be ok?
bpm2000 said:
awesome - thats what i was lookin for!
so if i delete that "e" icon will it be ok?
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Is it not clear to you that you have two totally different versions installed? You have a native WM app installed and the Java applet version?
Is that what this whole question revolves around??
no thats pretty clear now hehe:
-original question remains: what is the best method of removing programs (stock "remove apps" vs using a program like sktools), i guess wondering if there is sort of a general consensus when it comes to this. (like on a mac I always use appzapper vs just throwing the app in the trash)
-I installed the native wm version and I want to get rid of the java applet version but I am not finding how to remove that version since it doesnt show up on the "remove apps".
thx
Apart from the problem of the "Google thing icon", I was very interested about input on "how to remove programs properly"...
I too am annoyed with the builtin "remove program" function not being able to uninstall anything completely.
Any hint (beside deleting everything manually in registry and file system) ?
Thanks for your help.
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Apart from the problem of the "Google thing icon", I was very interested about input on "how to remove programs properly"...
I too am annoyed with the builtin "remove program" function not being able to uninstall anything completely.
Any hint (beside deleting everything manually in registry and file system) ?
Thanks for your help.
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i use ClearTemp for totally removing bad registry files. it's pretty usefull, and i dont see any unused icon in program menu
ingerasu said:
i use ClearTemp for totally removing bad registry files. it's pretty usefull, and i dont see any unused icon in program menu
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Thanks for the answer and sorry for being late replying.
I'll give it a try...
David
made a search but didnt come up with what I wanted...
what I'm looking for is the comm manager with 3G --> GSM mode among the options
I had it on my topaz, but I'm not quite sure which chef used it, if it was Dutty or some of the other 6.5.1 ROMs
thanks in advance
haven't found anything yet, but making a shortcut to CMBandSwitch from /windows folder seems to work for now
You don't need a comm manager. You can put the 3G option in the default one using Advanced Config. I did that (I like that option too) and it works like a charm. You'll have to give up on one of the existing entries - I chose Push Mail, as I never use it.
hm, had no Idea about that - will give it a try then, thanks for the info!
do you use any special AC (is there a general one for wm 6.1/6.5 or are they hardware specific?)
Nope, just use the last version (3.3 if I'm not mistaken).
got this over at the tweak thread i think, haven't tried it myself though, still using the windows built in but maybe someone else is interested
I'm trying to use CMBandSwitching.exe from the command line in order to be able to script 2G/3G switch over.
I have GProfile running and when i invoke a "Power Saving Profile" i would like to call the CMBandSwitching.exe from the command line and tell it to switch to 2G.
Is anyone aware of such parameters?
Thanks !