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Which WM5.0 Device Should I Get

Ok, my PDA2K is running WM5.0 but as you all may know it still has flaws and well I have had it for over a year and think it's time to get a new phone, the only problem is that I have no way of seeing or using any of these WM5.0 devices until I buy it. so I wanted to ask all the users of these devices what they suggest.
Your information would be greatly appreciated.

so you're not able to go down to a store and try before you buy??...is that what you mean??

"other device"
I suggest the Advance TC M.A.G.I.C.
http://www.advancetc.com

bukwit said:
so you're not able to go down to a store and try before you buy??...is that what you mean??
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Ya the only phone they have available here is the HTC Wizard branded as the T-Mobile MDA, but even whith that all the T-Mobile stores say they will more than likely not have it in stock

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raymondu999 said:
I suggest the Advance TC M.A.G.I.C.
http://www.advancetc.com
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man that is sweet built in gps too, but I wouldn't be suprised if it turned out to be like the Motorola MPx

Actually, I've been in contact with this company, and they confirm a launch. A more exact date can be pinpointed by mid-April. They already have a sole distributor to handle things as well

well then I am going to look to you to let me know when who and if you can how much
I am sure like all new Windows phones it will hit the market at some outrageous amount right....
Do you have any additional info you could pm me??
Thanks

Check your PM box. I PMed you some details on the device. If you have any further questions, just PM me and I can forward to my contact in Advance TC

I've recently got myself the Mio A701 (used to have a JAM).
A nice PPC. Its got GPS builtin which is very useful and is only marginally larger than the JAM was.
Comes with lots of good extras - car screen mount, car charger etc.
And it's no more expensive than things like the JAMin.
I feel I've made a good buy
One downside is that being very new the Mio support website aint got a lot on it yet. But apparantly they are working on some ROM updates.
See it here.

New Update By Htc

i think is time to downgrate to wm 6 ...........
yes 6 not 6.1 with all these issues and bugs and problems....
and then sell all of us our kaisers
i'm tired of this [email protected]#king htc's policy
what reason for,keep trying manage to work wright a device,that cost us more than 750e??
what reason for,keep buying from this screwed company named HTC ?????
sory for my tone but i can't stand any more this condition

redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?

zaharakis said:
i think is time to downgrate to wm 6 ...........
yes 6 not 6.1 with all these issues and bugs and problems....
and then sell all of us our kaisers
i'm tired of this [email protected]#king htc's policy
what reason for,keep trying manage to work wright a device,that cost us more than 750e??
what reason for,keep buying from this screwed company named HTC ?????
sory for my tone but i can't stand any more this condition
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I hear ya, but thats why we have wonderful chefs

Isaygarcia said:
redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?
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but somewhere we have to say it loud about this ..
and is better say it in another thread (like this one )and not to fill all other threads

Things that might improove
Hey,
The ROMs here are actually quite good but even if the ROM from HTC (the new one) does not compare with the ones made by XDA gurus they did some nice stuff...for example clearing the storage automatically after flash (no hard reset??) and the radio looks to be quite good it has all the countries in EUR now and the auto network configuration actually works...and there is no bluetooth activated right after flash...
Maybe some of these good things can be implemented in the new custom ROMs also...

More than blaming HTC for its ****-ROMs , we should contact the people who is working on port the Diamond drivers.

i think that zaharakis says what we all feel
htc tricked us
i can play videos and emulate gba games fluently at mt 3 years old ipaq 2490
while i cannot even turn the screen instantly to the stupid kaiser
and think how it would be if we didn't have the chefs

Isaygarcia said:
More than blaming HTC for its ****-ROMs , we should contact the people who is working on port the Diamond drivers.
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This phone does what i need it to do. And when the next greatest ppc comes out il be getting that.

Isaygarcia said:
redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?
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On the contrary...
Posts like this are nothing but the reflection of all the frustrated HTC users like me and if and only if people from HTC get to see this kind of bad publicity who knows, maybe they change their stupid policies...
Here's hoping...

Rayan said:
On the contrary...
Posts like this are nothing but the reflection of all the frustrated HTC users like me and if and only if people from HTC get to see this kind of bad publicity who knows, maybe they change their stupid policies...
Here's hoping...
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I wished the same thing until I realized that here in this forum we only represent negligible fraction of what could make an impact at all for their revenues.

hi guys,
i used the kaiser since few month with the org. german vodafone rom 1.58.... and all thinks work fine except voip with the rear speaker problem, and no drivers .. we all know.
Yesterday I use the new official german rom and this works so bad for me ... same speed, problems with the touchscreen, BT headset works but kaiser works slow with BT on.
Before I throw the Kaiser off the window :-/ I wait for a community rom with diamond drivers and give the people here a detonation for that. No more money to HTC from me.
Greets ChriZZ

Why don't we all let HTC know this... Mail them, all of you, it's costing them money and time to reply to those mails.
Still didn't get a driver, which they promised us and a crappy performance when it comes to graphics... So don't frustrate the people over here with your shortcomings, but irritate the HTC staff .
That's just my point of view...
(For example: create an example mail (like the one on htcclassaction (or so) and mail it all to this crappy company)

Cooked wm6.1 ROM > *anything

dubbeld00 said:
Why don't we all let HTC know this... Mail them, all of you, it's costing them money and time to reply to those mails.
Still didn't get a driver, which they promised us and a crappy performance when it comes to graphics... So don't frustrate the people over here with your shortcomings, but irritate the HTC staff .
That's just my point of view...
(For example: create an example mail (like the one on htcclassaction (or so) and mail it all to this crappy company)
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your point is good my friend ..but you think they don't allready know it??
i don't believe that no one in htc didn't try first this update,before releasing it in public
so they just yellow us for another one time

Sorry..Why u r angry?...also all the coocked 6.1 ROMs are sucks...i tried theme all ( full of bugs ) and dont let u even use the device the way u like...
am using the HTC offecial ROM i ( WM 6 ) all the needed program are running very good ( Arabiser for the arabic users like me although this arabizing softwares did is not the offecial for HTC, windows live working,Skyps workin, camer i dont use so musch but the pic's i took are very good,GPS working ( using sygc7...so what else you dream off ????????? the only this that make me try the 6.1 is the sound of my Gabra 8040 voice is not that loud i need ( i live in a noisy country)...and just we all should know that this is a PPC not a PC u ca not just load it with tons of programs
the only thing i think HTC should do is to use MVC insted of the buil in program althought that program runs very good but we all like the MVC

I remember when!
Remember when they "HTC" announced the Kaiser II , the promo how cool it looked. We all couldn't wait, built in GPS smaller design "not as thick" I fell for the hype. Now what are they pushing the "DIAMOND" wow lets all sell our Tilt's and Kaisers II on eBay and go out and buy a Diamond. but wait what is the Diamond missing what are it's short falls. Do we all trust HTC since they have been so honest with us up to now, it seems that everyone is tring to make a Iphone look alike. If you want an Iphone buy one. it's cheeper then a Kaiser II and you can get 2 for the price of a Diamond. I like my Tilt and I am going to keep it. but I don't like HTC and I would be willing to contribute to any legle suite or team that can go after HTC and hold them accountable. They may reside in a foreign country but I live in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and we know how to screw someone in court. Land of the Free and home of the Class action suite! I am extremely happy to belong to this XDA community, I feel like this is a big extended family and we have family members all over the world. We have all been waiting long enough and apparently in vein, for HTC to release video drivers. I believe they never had any intention of correcting these problems. Oh and one more thing I never used a Windows machine at home until I got my first HTC device Samsung SX66, then 8525 now the Tilt. I am a die hard Mac user have always been. but in the world of PDA's Windows is King! I can't get what I need out of an Iphone and looks like I am not going to get what I expect from HTC. Shame on you HTC you took a customer that bought a new device each and every year and drove me to this. maybe your next years P&L will open your eye's.
Ed...

I'm sorry, but how exactly does moaning about a multi-milion dollar company on a developer forum do any good?
I'm sure the folks at HTC are reading all this on a daily basis, and take pity on your plight, and will be releasing a driver asap to make us all happy.
The kaiser does what it's supposed to - it's a business centric device and as for the multimedia part, it might not be a monster, but it does do the job relatively well.
Face it, HTC doesn't care about a 7 month old device, neither do they care about you. Try and think about it from their point of view - Releasing a brand new device boasting of 3D capabilities is MUCH better for sales than worrying about implementing it on an already released crippled one.
With that said, I hope this will be the last of such threads and the ROM development forum is no place for this sort of rant anyway.

So... after thinking it for a long time I have gone back to the original WM 6.0 ROM.
- Official WM 6.1 update by HTC: No text in landscape mode, programs crashing, skype does not work
- Cooked ROMs based on this: same problems with landscape
- Cooked ROMs with 1.65 radio: do not work well with my router, slow GPS fix
- Other cooked ROMs: display problems, have many programs I have no use for or I have to install others that came as standard (this leads to little storage free at the end). Skype does not work on most cases.
- Original ROM: Big free storage, GPS works fast, WiFi works, Skype works, all programs work, no crashes.
So, by updating what the hell do I gain?
My other choice would be WM 6.1 3.02 ROM, I've been using it for weeks, but hell, in the original ROM skype works.

nphil said:
I'm sorry, but how exactly does moaning about a multi-milion dollar company on a developer forum do any good?
I'm sure the folks at HTC are reading all this on a daily basis, and take pity on your plight, and will be releasing a driver asap to make us all happy.
The kaiser does what it's supposed to - it's a business centric device and as for the multimedia part, it might not be a monster, but it does do the job relatively well.
Face it, HTC doesn't care about a 7 month old device, neither do they care about you. Try and think about it from their point of view - Releasing a brand new device boasting of 3D capabilities is MUCH better for sales than worrying about implementing it on an already released crippled one.
With that said, I hope this will be the last of such threads and the ROM development forum is no place for this sort of rant anyway.
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It helps if we don't buy into their next product. Multi-million dollar companies are made buy consumers. If you take away the consumer then you don't have a multi-million dollar company.

why dont we all put our kaisers in a big bag and then take this bag in a helicopter and release over HTC Corp. (with some TNT, or some Hydrogen in Fusion) and Bang !

Hello everyone

Hey guys, my name is Sean and I'm from Pittsburgh PA.
So I believe I found the right place here at xda-dev. I just got a Touch Pro2 with sprint. The guy I bought the phone from offered me one with newer firmware but I told him I wanted the one with the oldest (in case some vulnerabilities were patched), so I think it is WM 6.1 or something, definitely not 6.5. Anyways, when I go to setting -> about is says TouchFLO 3D 2.1.38416.1; what other information can I find as to my version that may be of use to me?
I am sorry I am such a newb at this. Basically, I want to get the most out of my phone as possible (hell, it cost me 300$ [no rebate since I have an older data plan]) and do not even know where to start. There is so much information on these forums I am having a hard time making sense out of it. If anyone could give me some information as to how to figure out what I can do or some recommendations I would very much appreciate it. Thanks
-Sean
edit: I have been looking through the wiki and faqs so please give me a bit more insight other than steering me to their direction. Thanks again

I suggest you look on ppcgeeks for more cdma based TP2 information. Most of the people on the tp2 section there are sprint users.

thanks
thanks for the advice. ill check it out.

you're going to want to upgrade to 6.5, you can do so much more! and check out ppcgeeks.com.

So a few days back I installed mightyrom and about 20 cabs. Wasn't that difficult once i figured it out. Thanks for pointing me to ppcgeeks.
That's about it, but, what kind of stuff do you guys put on your tp2?

my personal favorite is slingbox, nothing like having a portable cable box that makes calls .

is it possible to play netflix's watch instantly on the tp2? That would be awesome.

[Q] how to Get Back to WM 6.5 ?

Hi Everybody !
you all know how strange it might be some requests form your boss but this is the most strange one !
My Boss has a system that work on WM 6.5 only and doesn't work on WM 7 and he requested that I should Provide him with 40 New WM 6.5 devices !
you know that they are not available currently So I figured out that I should buy new WM 7 Devices and Flash it Back to WM 6.5 !
I think theoretically this is possible but have anyone tried it ?!!!
I want to Try it on HTC 7 pro Device , Could anyone tell me what the steps I need to do that ?
any other suggested Devices ? I only want it to be New ,with QWERTY keypad and I can install WM 6.5 on it !
Thank you all in Advance.

There's a no can do on that. I see that you have a very valid reason to use WM 6.5, but in this case I think that the best you can do is to inform your boss about the drawback with software that relies on obsolete hardware.

If its a widely used system It sounds like it time to look for an upgrade

Sir. Haxalot said:
There's a no can do on that. I see that you have a very valid reason to use WM 6.5, but in this case I think that the best you can do is to inform your boss about the drawback with software that relies on obsolete hardware.
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Unfortunately it is not his Call ! he is committed to an old Contract !

nizzon said:
If its a widely used system It sounds like it time to look for an upgrade
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unfortunately Legal issues is the reason that prevent us form Upgrading !

Well you're only options are:
1) Find a solution to the legal problem, then upgrade the system.
2) Buy WM6.5 handsets, which will probably involve buying more than one model if you need 40 and might involve having to buy used.
Expansys apparently have over a hundred HD2s in stock. It's the only WM6.5 handset that they still sell;
http://www.expansys.com/htc-hd2-windows-smartphone-188866/

satchef1 said:
Well you're only options are:
1) Find a solution to the legal problem, then upgrade the system.
2) Buy WM6.5 handsets, which will probably involve buying more than one model if you need 40 and might involve having to buy used.
Expansys apparently have over a hundred HD2s in stock. It's the only WM6.5 handset that they still sell;
http://www.expansys.com/htc-hd2-windows-smartphone-188866/
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I think I will follow your 2nd suggestion.
thank you for support

Is There A Way To Install Android On An HTC One M8 For Windows Phone?

Is there a way to install Android on an htc one m8 for windows phone?
I need some help I need to install android to tho phone please help thanks.

SaltyAulty said:
I need some help I need to install android to tho phone please help thanks.
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did you spend ANY time to search on the forum before you posted? IT IS NOT POSSIBLE.

technology not compatible, despise it is near the same devices are unique to run windows or android, you should be able to sell your w phone and get an android version

also keep in mind that you might not be happy with the android version. if used to windows phone you will find the higher battery drain under android quite disturbing.

SaltyAulty said:
I need some help I need to install android to tho phone please help thanks.
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The best bet is to exchange with someone who needs Windows phone but holding an android phone.

windows
It may be worth waiting. Windows 10 may allow you to install android apps

https://plus.google.com/communities/114053643671219382368
Woot !!!

Hello guys,
Seriously, I'm currenlty struggling to get one, as they're only availabel in the U.S. and nobody wants to ship to my location...
If you really have one of these and want Android, then please make things simple for everybody : contact me to sell yours and get an Android model !
On the other hand, i agree it would be fun to be able to run an SD Android ROM like we did on the HD2, but if you're looking for a NAND ROM, justs swap for a regular M8 that's available everywhere !
P.S. : I'm serious about wanting to buy an M8 for Windows... AT&T unlocked, as we're using only SIM cards here. Thanks ! ^^
Isn't there any swap section on this forum, btw ?

As a FYI to anyone that happens to be messing around in this space: I've intentionally bricked my (Win) M8 into QDLoader 9008 mode, but haven't gotten much further as the device doesn't appear to fully implement Qualcomm's Sahara protocol, or at least implements it differently than any examples for other devices that I've found - it will do the hello handshake and a mode switch but returns some sort of error after that. I'm out of relevant docs and examples on Sahara and firehose though, so I'm pretty much done unless I decide and manage to hook up JTAG.
There was a poster in another thread who said they were able to install android this way, but then never reported back with their "tutorial". As such, they may very well have been lying, but unless someone who understands the M8's Sahara support chimes in, it's still a possibility. Not trying to get anyone's hopes up though, as I'd say it's still unlikely given the lack of dev effort for this phone.

any updates?

Anybody hear about any update on this topic? My friend and I are willing to work on a project to see if we can make it possible. We just need to know where to start. As of now, I have the HTC M8 unlocked to sideloads apps and what not. Anything helps. Being negative never gets you anywhere. Being positive opens new doors. Thanks for your time.

Developers! can you convert windows htc m8 to android?
Hello Developrs!
My friend has a shop of mobile phones and he has a stock of HTC one m8 for windows phones. He wants to let it convert into android. Please let me know if any of you can do this. i will pay you for this.
Thanks

Z80-Man said:
Hello guys,
Seriously, I'm currenlty struggling to get one, as they're only availabel in the U.S. and nobody wants to ship to my location...
If you really have one of these and want Android, then please make things simple for everybody : contact me to sell yours and get an Android model !
On the other hand, i agree it would be fun to be able to run an SD Android ROM like we did on the HD2, but if you're looking for a NAND ROM, justs swap for a regular M8 that's available everywhere !
P.S. : I'm serious about wanting to buy an M8 for Windows... AT&T unlocked, as we're using only SIM cards here. Thanks ! ^^
Isn't there any swap section on this forum, btw ?
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I have HTC one M8 (windows 10 version) at&t unlocked
if you are serious, please contact me on my email [email protected]
we'll keep in touch

Thanks for the offer, but I've bought a Lumia 950 now.
BTW, your email address seems to have been "anonymoused" ! ^^

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Checking in for any updates. I got handed this phone in an insurance upgrade.

Hi, I can't find the other 3d about the porting, but today I was thinking about the mi4.
If you remember, the MI4 LTE can switch between windows mobile and android... maybe if we study the tools and the code behind that device we might modify/create a tool or (maybe) at least find something interesting that we can apply to our htc one m8.
I'm not a dev and my english is very bad, but I wanted to share with to all of you my thoughts.